View Full Version : Israelis Exonerated In Corrie's Death


goofyfish
06-27-03, 11:26 AM
JERUSALEM (AP)- Israel's military prosecutor has exonerated Israeli soldiers in the death of an American peace activist, who was crushed to death by an army bulldozer in the Gaza Strip, the army said Thursday…

Announcing the ruling, the army said the driver did not see her, claiming she was standing behind a mound of earth. (Full text here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2839434,00.html)) Well, that's a relief. It's always more credible when a government exonerates itself of wrongdoing.

:rolleyes: Peace.

EI_Sparks
06-27-03, 11:33 AM
Well, you can hardly blame them goofy, after all, she was a member of that well-known gang of international terrorists and jewel thieves, the ISM. Armed with invisible undetectable high-powerd handguns and their high-tech jackets that go from perfect camoflauge to high-visibility flourescent pink when they detect the presence of a video camera, they've attacked the poor, oppressed, helpless members of the IDF time and time again, often only thwarted by a lucky shot from a sniper's rifle or a tank....

:rolleyes:

bhudmaash
06-27-03, 11:51 AM
what about tom Hundall, I supose we can expect the same verdict.
I posted about this in my thread "Rafah" a while back. It truly beggars belief.

I wish this would get as much "air time" as suicide bombings...but somehow I'm not holding my breath for an hour long in-depth analysis into the Corrie kiling on Fox news:bugeye:

Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
06-27-03, 01:42 PM
Well, that's a relief. It's always more credible when a government exonerates itself of wrongdoing.

Hey , its not their fault that in Israel bulldozers & tanks & rockets all operate themselves , what can those Zahyuni do ? They're just spiritual peoples living in peace with their ancestors :rolleyes:

otheadp
06-27-03, 07:25 PM
1st of all she was no peace activist.

and 2ndly, (and this rEeally pisses me off), she puts herself in a closed military zone, a war zone, and when she gets hurt she crows fowl?

Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
06-27-03, 08:27 PM
All the Zahyuni aint peace-activists either , they place themselves in a warzone as well everyday , and when somebody remebers them about it , allofasudden they get mad :rolleyes:

Should we have called instead ? :p

EI_Sparks
06-28-03, 08:03 AM
otheadp,
Firstly, she was a peace activist.
Secondly, she was not in a war zone - had she been, she would have been protected under the geneva conventions, as would have been all those around her at the time - not that that's stopped the IDF in the past (recall that Israel has been cited by the UN for multiple violations of the Conventions). It was also not a closed military zone, nor was it an open military zone.

bhudmaash
06-28-03, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by otheadp
1st of all she was no peace activist.

and 2ndly, (and this rEeally pisses me off), she puts herself in a closed military zone, a war zone, and when she gets hurt she crows fowl?

u know what really pisses me off chump?

those IDF bulldozers "putting themselves" where palastinians homes used to be...how frightfully rude of those Pallys to b#be living there eh?
Secondly, Palastinian childeren "putting themselves" in front of IDF sniper bullets...that's not on old chap is it?
Thirdly the Zionist population putting themselves where the Pallys have been living for centuries.....how un sporting of them.

how 'bout I put my foot up yo' ass gimp? open your eyes.

Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
06-28-03, 11:54 AM
open your eyes.

Ehm......Bro , he's a Zahyuni , he has his eyes wide open just like Vladi http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/JabotinskyInFascistUniform_1.jpg

Teg
06-28-03, 12:33 PM
otheadp posted: she puts herself in a closed military zone, a war zone, and when she gets hurt she crows fowl?

She's dead and therefore lacks the ability to cry foul.

SkinWalker
06-28-03, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by otheadp
1st of all she was no peace activist.

I'd call anyone a peace activitst who believed: that a physician (with his family in his own home that he bought and paid for) was worthy of putting on a bright orange vest and standing in front of his home to keep a bulldozer from destroying it in order to force the physician's people to leave.

That, in case you haven't guessed is an act of genocide in any other country.

Originally posted by otheadp
and 2ndly, (and this rEeally pisses me off), she puts herself in a closed military zone, a war zone, and when she gets hurt she crows fowl?

Actually, I think the only thing she "crowed" was that her back was broken.... then she died. For something she believed in. The Israeli bulldozer driver and the Israeli soldier on the scene both simply left. They didn't even complete their mission to raze the house as far as I could tell. That in itself is a bit telling.

And she was not in a "war zone." She was in a neighborhood.

The Israelis are VERY quick to denounce the terrorism of the Palestinian extremists.... but in any other country that wasn't such a good customer as Israel (and perhaps a little darker skinned than most of Western society), these Palestinians would be lauded as Freedom Fighters. The Israeli tactics are just as terroristic, or more so. The difference is that they are oppressing an entire people and attempting to eliminate their culture. That... is genocide.

SkinWalker
06-28-03, 02:08 PM
See page #1 on: WWW.RememberTheseChildren.org

5 July 2002
Noor Hindi, 2,
of Deir Al Balah, Gaza,
killed with mother by Israeli forces exploding bullet to head.

There are hundreds of children from both sides of the conflict on the Gaza strip, but most are Palestinian with a ratio of 93:448. SOMEthing isn't right.... assuming that these figures are even close to accurate. I suspect they are.

Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
06-28-03, 02:39 PM
Hey Abdi did you know they have a "Jabotinsky-medal" for zionists these days ? I bet its that one Goebbels ordered .

Very necesarry read :http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/

bhudmaash
06-28-03, 05:23 PM
Ze'ev (Vladimir) Jabotinsky was undoubtedly the most outstanding liberal Zionist leader. He was born to a Jewish traditionalist middle-class family, in Odessa on October 18, 1880 and died on August 4, 1940 in New York. He received his basic education in Russia and moved to Rome in 1898 to study jurisprudence. Like the majority of intellectual Jewish youth at the time, Jabotinsky was captivated by the dream of a more just Marxist society (2). However, from the beginning of this Socialist phase of his life, Jabotinsky's political intuition alerted him to the danger inherent in the prominent role of Jews in the worldwide war of classes declared by Marxism against the bourgeoisie and religion. Thus in his first Zionist speech pronounced in Bern in 1898, there was already what later became the leitmotif of his Zionist thought and action -- the conviction of imminent fatal danger to the European Jewish communities.



http://www.liberal.org.il/the_man.htm

He remained loyal to this Liberal approach when established scores of years later with respect to the Arab citizens of the future Jewish State: " Each one of the ethnic communities will be recognized as autonomous and equal in the eyes of the law." (3)

...maybe he wasnt that bad?

Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
06-28-03, 05:44 PM
maybe he wasnt that bad?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAHA

Thats the funniest shit Ive heard all day bro , you didnt start on the :m: did you ?

http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/JabotinskyInFascistUniform_1.jpg

This man went side by side with Mussolini , see him in his fascist uniform , this man performed the Nazi-Fascist greating , Im sure you have absolutely no idea what you're saying on this one bro ...... You better read that book I linked .


1880-1940

Ze'ev Jabotinsky is considered to be the most important right-wing Revisionist Movement member (which eventually evolved into the post-1948 Herut Party, which, in turn, later became the Likud Party), who provided the ideological map for its future policies. Born in Odessa to a liberal Jewish family, where he organized a militia to defend Jews of Odessa. In 1903 Jabotinsky went to Kishinev to cover the aftermath of the infamous pogrom. He worked as a journalist in Rome and Vienna and at an early age began to devote his outstanding skills as a writer, orator, translator, and polemicist to the Zionist cause. Jabotinsky had promoted the establishment of Jewish fighting units within the Allied armies during WW I and was one of the founders of the Haganah.

In 1925 he established the Revisionist Party (so named because it sought to "revise" the terms of the Mandate, particularly to provide for the re-inclusion of Transjordan in Mandatory Palestine). He also set up the party's youth movement, Betar, which was characterized by militaristic, some might say fascist, appurtenance (dark brown uniforms), activities (parade ground drill and firearm exercises, slogans, and ideology, and structure. Jabotinsky admired Mussolini (see photo), and his movement repeatedly sought affiliation with and assistance from Rome. His Zionism was single minded, exclusivist, rigid. He died in America in 1940 on a mission to organize Jewish participation in the Allied war effort.

Jabotinsky was an exceptionally talented and versatile man, an original thinker and ideologue, and a powerful political leader. His followers worship him, while his enemies detested him with equal passion. Jabotinsky was one of the earliest advocates of using force to curb Palestinian nationalism, which has been eloquently articulated in his IRON WALL article published in Ha'aretz Daily in 1923. It is really amazing how this article has shaped Israel's policies and conducts towards its Arab neighbors.


In 1925 Ze'ev Jabotinsky wrote of how Zionists Jews should colonize Palestine:

"Zionist colonization, even the most restricted, must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native [Palestinian] population. This colonization can, therefore, continue and develop under the protection of a force independent of the local population --an iron wall which the native [Palestinian] population cannot break through. This is, in to, our policy towards the Arabs. To formulate it any other way would be hypocrisy."


"We Jews have nothing in common with what is called the 'Orient,' thank God. To the extent that our uneducated masses have ancient spiritual traditions and laws that call the Orient, they must be weaned away from them, and this is in fact what we are doing in every decent school, what life itself is doing with great success. We are going in Palestine, first for our national convenience, [second] to sweep out thoroughly all traces of the 'Oriental soul.'

We Jews, thank God, have nothing to do with the East. . . . The Islamic soul must be broomed out of Eretz-Yisrael. . . . [Muslims are] yelling rabble dressed up in gaudy, savage rags."

Orient=Muslim ? Yes and no . Do not forget that Mizrahim is Orient . This is simply cultural superiority of the Ashkenazim European (thus its racial) , and this is what has happened in Israel amongst all peoples and amongst Jews themselves .

But for a Jew ..........

Just before his death in 1940, Ze'ev Jabotinsky expressed a justification for implementing "population transfer" for the Palestinian Arabs to realize Zionism as the following:

"The world has become accustomed to the idea of mass migrations and has become fond of them." He later added, "Hitler--- as odious as he is to us---has given this idea a good name in the world."

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story640.html

He wasnt that bad .......... he was the worst , only perhaps Avraham Stern to look up to .

bhudmaash
06-28-03, 05:46 PM
lol!!

heh heh...was feeling bored, thought I'd stir some shit up;)

Tiassa
06-30-03, 05:56 AM
Discovering why Rachel Corrie died (Seattle P-I) (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/128601_rached.html) The U.S. government, the Olympia area's congressional representative and her parents all deserve to see the final report. Without that, serious questions will remain.

At least until the report can be read and carefully analyzed, U.S. Rep. Brian Baird's call for an independent U.S. investigation continues to make sense. A neutral look by Corrie's own country would add to the sense of fairness in the conclusions.

It's clear that this was a young woman of uncommon compassion, committed to fairness for Palestinians. However she died, she left an impressive legacy, as the Evergreen State students made clear in remembering her at what should have been her June 13 graduation.An editorial from the Editorial Board of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Just thought I'd keep the fire burning.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

bhudmaash
06-30-03, 08:41 AM
A neutral look by Corrie's own country would add to the sense of fairness in the conclusions.

corrie's own country continues to fund the IDF, hence payed for the very bulldozer that killed her:mad:

Axes
06-30-03, 11:36 AM
I wouldnt even call you a good manipulator since none here look up the sources of some of your outragouse claims. I checked one. this uniform our dead friend is in, is a BRITISH uniform.

good work..

EI_Sparks
06-30-03, 11:41 AM
I think "huh?" covers that one...

bhudmaash
06-30-03, 11:44 AM
well.."Allah"..dont know who the hell he's adressing there:confused:

.."our dead friend"...I think he's on about Jabotinsky...dunno:bugeye:

Axes
06-30-03, 11:56 AM
Hope thats clear enough for you.

Abdullathebomber
06-30-03, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by bhudmaash
corrie's own country continues to fund the IDF, hence payed for the very bulldozer that killed her:mad:

Why do you think G. W. Bush abrogated US participation in the ICC? ( International Crimes Court ) and why Israel has followed? :rolleyes:

The US, like their pals in Israel, will continue to receive SPECIAL GREETINGS via the world's terrorist network - and the ole Bush question "Why do they hate us" will continue to be the question of choice from the Washington and ZioNazi zealots.

See "Dedication" page #1:

WWW.RememberTheseChildren.org

R.I.P. Rachel Corrie:

"VENGENCE IS MINE, SAITH THE LORD!" :(

Abdulla,

bhudmaash
06-30-03, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Axes
Hope thats clear enough for you.

wow!....2 posts and u already figured Allahmath = Jihad

give einstein a cigar:bugeye:

Re: uniforms. British, nazi, whatever. You don't need a uniform to be a fascist, u can walk around butt naked for all it matters.
What's the current garb of th Israelli army?;)

goofyfish
06-30-03, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by bhudmaash
Allahmath = Jihad And also Ghassan.

:m: Peace.

Tiassa
06-30-03, 05:42 PM
corrie's own country continues to fund the IDF, hence payed for the very bulldozer that killed herThat does seem to preclude a neutral examination of the report, doesn't it?

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Axes
06-30-03, 06:21 PM
By your sarcastic post its obviouse where your political views on the subject stand.

My argument was not if jabby was or was not a fascist, but the picture of him in military garb was placed as "proof" of him beeing a fascist, which is, as you might agree, false.

Ghassan Kanafani
06-30-03, 10:58 PM
I checked one. this uniform our dead friend is in, is a BRITISH uniform.

What you propose would be that this is a Jewish-Legion uniform , not a Brittish uniform . Yes the Jewish-Legion was UNDER the Brittish command , but it was Zionist .

Jabo has established the Irgun , the ones who drove the Brits out , a supposed Brittish friendship wasnt really Ideological .

Jabotinsky also served as a Lieutenant and participated in the assault of the Jordan River crossings and the conquest of E-salt in the campaign to free Eretz Israel (Palestine) from Turkish rule. During Passover, 1920, Jabotinsky stood at the head of the Hagana in Jerusalem against Arab riots and was condemned by the British Mandatory Government to 15 years hard labor. Following the public outcry against the verdict, he received amnesty and was released from Acre prison.

http://www.jabotinsky.org/jabl_e.htm

Maybe its their uniform ? Or is it Beitar's ?

In 1923, the youth movement Betar (Brith Joseph Trumpeldor) was created. The new youth movement aimed at educating its members with a military and nationalistic spirit and Jabotinsky stood at its head.

Or is it rather Irgun's ?

In 1937, the Irgun Tzvai Leumi (I.Z.L) became the military arm of the Jabotinsky movement and he became its commander. The three bodies headed by Jabotinsky, The New Zionist Organization (N.Z.O), the Betar youth movement and the Irgun Tzvai Leumi (I.Z.L) were three extensions of the same movement. The New Zionist Organization was the political arm which maintained contacts with governments and other political factors; Betar educated the youth of the Diaspora for the liberation and building of Eretz Israel; and the Irgun Tzvai Leumi (I.Z.L) was the military arm which fought against the enemies of the Zionist enterprise. These bodies cooperated in the organization of Af Al Pi illegal immigration. Within this framework, over 40 ships sailed from European ports bringing to Eretz Israel tens of thousands of illegal immigrants.

All 3 are Facists . Only the last 2 ones are official .

What do all those Facist with arm-hand symbols ?
http://www.israelmilitary.com/imp/images/tn/bigimg35922.jpg
LEHI

Anyways Axis you fine young Zionist military talking target , which one of the 3 is it ? I really dont care for some Jabo-case , I just like to know .

Seems that Irgun had some Brittish Uniforms as well :
Irgun Fighters in British Uniform
http://www.us-israel.org/images/costume.jpg

LOL .

Look some even wore cowboy-hats
http://www.us-israel.org/images/smshimshon.jpg

LMAO

bhudmaash
07-01-03, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Axes
By your sarcastic post its obviouse where your political views on the subject stand.

My argument was not if jabby was or was not a fascist, but the picture of him in military garb was placed as "proof" of him beeing a fascist, which is, as you might agree, false.

My sarcasm is completely independant to my political views.
Leave my sarcasm out of it, I take great care in cultivating, and maintaing it.