Apparently the Israeli's are hacking into Lebonese TV stations and playing this video. Check it out:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014887.php

And on the flip side another hightlyt amusing YouTube video this time CNN anchor Rosemary Church takes and Israeli spokeswoman to task over Qana
Great rebuttal by CNN anchor against a Israel Spokeswomen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fn5NZ6LBk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwakeupfromyourslumber%2Eblogspot %2Ecom%2F2006%2F07%2Fcnn%2Danchor%2Dtakes%2Disrael i%2Dspokeswoman%2Ehtml)
What is interesting is how the Israeli spokesdrone was totally unprepared for an adversarial interview. The CNN reporter nailed the Israeli spokesdrone that there is no proof that Hezbollah was firing rockets from anywhere near the bombed building. And note how the Israeli spokesdrone totally evaded the question of why Israel isn't shooting down the supposed Hexbollah rockets. watch it it very illustrative of what happens when the official propaganda line gets questioned .

Apparently the Israeli's are hacking into Lebonese TV stations and playing this video. Check it out:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014887.php
I thought it was unnecessarily understated.

:)

"yalla ya Nasrallah - we will screw you inshallah we will send you back to Allah, with all the Hezbollah"

LoL!

:D

- N

It is pretty funny. I wish the US would have the balls to produce stuff like this.

the words are cool and the tune is ok... but the execution is kind of gay. i was hoping it'd be in Arabic (Arabic music is really good)... because it's in Hebrew there will be less impact on Hizballah in Lebanon... this is mainly to raise morale in Israel.


and that anchor attacking IDF spokeswoman... man that was just vile. but it really brings out the bias - and the ignorance - of mass mainstream media out there.

its so obvious the israeli spokeswoman when she says
"we are deeply saddened"
and "terrible tragedy"

....doesn't give a shit.

And note how the Israeli spokesdrone totally evaded the question of why Israel isn't shooting down the Hexbollah rockets.

Shooting them down? Shooting down artillery rockets? Katyushas?? Are you serious?

Wow. I don't know of anyone who's been able to simply shoot down regular free-fall short-range artillery rockets, or even tried. Brian, perhaps you should stick to polemics. You don't seem to know too much about ballistics.

edit: Or grammar.

LOL that is one of the funniest movies i've seen in my life!

Great lyrics... I mean comeon! You have lice on your beard?!?! That is gold!

Joining my cesspool of crazy vids for sure!

Brian what do you mean by supposed Hezbollah rockets?!

Its a fact that they are firing rockets into Israel. Even you have praised them many times for doing so.. Methinks you are starting to back down from your anti-zionist view

the words are cool and the tune is ok... but the execution is kind of gay. i was hoping it'd be in Arabic (Arabic music is really good)... because it's in Hebrew there will be less impact on Hizballah in Lebanon... this is mainly to raise morale in Israel.

I didn't know the lyrics are in Hebrew. They should really record an arabic version. Do many Lebonese speak/understand Hebrew?

I didn't know the lyrics are in Hebrew. They should really record an arabic version. Do many Lebonese speak/understand Hebrew?

Maybe some of the Hezbollah.

Maybe some of the Hezbollah.
If they do an arabic version I'm sure its' gonna be a big HIT!!! :D

Maybe some of the Hezbollah.
Well, that is the target audience.

Shooting them down? Shooting down artillery rockets? Katyushas?? Are you serious?

Wow. I don't know of anyone who's been able to simply shoot down regular free-fall short-range artillery rockets, or even tried. Brian, perhaps you should stick to polemics. You don't seem to know too much about ballistics.

http://www.defense-update.com/directory/THEL.htm

"The fixed-site version Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration (ACTD) Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) THEL, was developed by TRW Inc. under a $89 million contract. During several tests in the USA, the system has shot down 25 Katyusha rockets, but has not been deployed."

"During a recent test conducted on Aug. 24, 2004 the system shot down multiple mortar rounds, demonstrating potential its battlefield application for to protection against common threats. The test represented actual mortar threat scenarios. Targets were intercepted by the THEL testbed and destroyed; both single mortar rounds and salvo were tested."

:)

The only downfall is that it's immobile. It'd work fine to take out the katyusha rockets Hezbollah fires, but it won't help against the long-range missles unless more THELs are deployed due to their lack of mobility.

"Since the lack of mobility and the fixed base limitations of the system made in insufficient to counter long range rockets currently employed by Hezbulla at the Israeli northern border with Lebanon. While Katyusha rockets had a range of 20 kilometers, and could hit only a few urban targets, the long range rockets have a range of 70 kilometers and can hit strategic facilities and large urban areas in the Haifa bay. A laser-based defense against such weapons must rely on more systems, which could be rapidly mobilized to protect a much larger area. Such design is currently being implemented under the MTHEL program."


- N

Are any of the THEL's actively deployed in Israel right now?
will patriot missile systems near Tel aviv be effective in shooting down any long range missles from Lebanon

That song is DA BOMB!

great song. and also very true. =)

http://www.defense-update.com/directory/THEL.htm

[i]"The fixed-site version Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration (ACTD) Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) THEL, was developed by TRW Inc. under a $89 million contract. During several tests in the USA, the system has shot down 25 Katyusha rockets, but has not been deployed."

- N

Impressive - but not yet in service. Shooting down mortar rounds? :confused: I admit that that's news to me.

Anyway, I think we can agree on refuting Foley's point.

Shooting them down? Shooting down artillery rockets? Katyushas?? Are you serious?

Wow. I don't know of anyone who's been able to simply shoot down regular free-fall short-range artillery rockets, or even tried. Brian, perhaps you should stick to polemics. You don't seem to know too much about ballistics.

edit: Or grammar.
Everyone excuse Geoff , It is obvious I meant destroying the artillery rocket sites , he is a little frustrated at the fact of having his arse handed to him once again on my Qana thread , make sure you read the debate , Geoff doesn’t no much about providing credible source material .
Edit : Or the ability to answer questions .

You Are A Very Beautiful Man "Brian Foley"
I Feel Much Desire In You.

so, the purpose of that post was what again?

You Are A Very Beautiful Man "Brian Foley"
I Feel Much Desire In You.
Thank you very much , and may I compliment you on your Creeping Death name I like it , it is very apt for todays atmosphere . Stay on here , send me a PM .

looks like Foley's found a new friend to help him take over the world! :D

Will they be holding hands, swapping spit, and indulging in long back rubs?

Eww..

- N

Impressive - but not yet in service.

Not yet in service because of the backstabbing Israelis. It's their own fault.

Glick: U.S. Could Suspend Arrow and THEL Collaboration with Israel

http://www.missilethreat.com/news/200505181137.html

Caroline Glick writes in The Jerusalem Post that the U.S. has reportedly suspended its cooperation with Israel on the Arrow and Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) missile defense projects. Ms. Glick references an official source quoted by Middle East Newsline as saying of the pullback from military cooperation, “It’s all about China.”

Israel is the largest exporter of high-tech weapons to China. The Pentagon fears that China could, among other things, use its Israeli weapons against U.S. forces in a future Taiwan conflict. Glick notes that Israel should stop arming the Chinese or risk damaging its strategic relationship with the U.S. She also notes that by arming China, Israel is actually helping its regional enemies. China of course also exports weapons to Iran and Pakistan.

Just one of the other numerous reasons why I dislike Israel. They're no friend of ours. Just exploitive leeches.

- N

Neildo, this system is for missiles not katushia rockets or free flight over ground systems, not enough tracking time to lock on target, the flight time is to short, this system is for ICBM,s or Inter Theater Systems.

Will they be holding hands, swapping spit, and indulging in long back rubs?
Beats your morning hobby sex of hand rape .

Another thing Foley is a expert on from experience.

Neildo, this system is for missiles not katushia rockets or free flight over ground systems, not enough tracking time to lock on target, the flight time is to short, this system is for ICBM,s or Inter Theater Systems.

Uh, do you even bother to read anything? It works on katyusha rockets and mortars as well. This system's weak point is shooting down missiles (although it can if within range) due to it's immobile nature unable to cover a wide range where missiles can go out of it's cover range, unless multiple THEL units are deployed to cover a wider area.

The ICBM laser defense is a whole different program. It's not the THEL talked about here.

Another thing Foley is a expert on from experience.

Yeah, speak for yourself of the above mentioned. ;)

- N

Yes I read the article and it seem that unlike you I understand the words and have the knowledge of the systems to know what I'm talking about, and THEL is military short hand for, (Tactical High Energy Laser) not the name of the system or who manufactured it, for the military people on this site they must be ROTFLTAO over your lack of knowledge, He spoke of it not me the expertise must lie with him and now apparently you .

Yes I read the article and it seem that unlike you I understand the words and have the knowledge of the systems to know what I'm talking about, and THEL is military short hand for, (Tactical High Energy Laser) not the name of the system or who manufactured it, for the military people on this site they must be ROTFLTAO over your lack of knowledge, He spoke of it not me the expertise must lie with him and now apparently you .

Sorry bro, but you can't bullshit your way outta this one. (which shows by you trying to tell me the definition of THEL, lol)

Here, *hands you a straw* Suck it up.

"THEL / MTHEL Operational Scenario
The Tactical High Energy Laser uses a high-energy, deuterium fluoride chemical laser to protect against attack by short range unguided (ballistic flying) rockets."

"The purpose of the MTHEL program is to develop and test the first mobile Directed Energy weapon system capable of detecting, tracking, engaging, and defeating Rockets/Artillery/Mortars (RAM), cruise missiles, short-range ballistic missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles."

Nowhere does it talk about ICBMs or ITS as you mentioned. You've mistaken it for the Missle Defense Shield. The one that targets ICBMs uses missiles to take em down, not lasers, and I get to see it in action all the time over Vandenberg and San Nicolas Island. Lasers do not have that long of a range nor the power to take out an ICBM when it's within that range. Currently, our lasers only have the power to take out smaller projectiles.

Neildo, this system is for missiles not katushia rockets or free flight over ground systems, not enough tracking time to lock on target, the flight time is to short, this system is for ICBM,s or Inter Theater Systems.

- N

Hey, let's get back to the thread topic here:

"yalla ya Nasrallah - we will screw you inshallah we will send you back to Allah, with all the Hezbollah!"

Everybody sing!

"yalla ya Nasrallah - we will screw you inshallah we will send you back to Allah, with all the Hezbollah!"

I need to make a print of that to put on a t-shirt. :)

- N

Here is another good You Tube video
You Tube Israelis in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KNKzF9IQbw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwakeupfromyourslumber%2Eblogspot %2Ecom%2F2006%2F08%2Fisraelis%2Din%2Daction%2Ehtml )

Disgusting.

Appalling.

Cowardly.

Israeli.

Everyone excuse Geoff , It is obvious I meant destroying the artillery rocket sites

Everyone excuse Foley, it's clear that by "shooting down" he meant "shooting down at". Of course! :rolleyes:

Or maybe he meant shooting down the levitating Hezbollah rocket platforms?

Honestly, that was the worst one yet.

Not yet in service because of the backstabbing Israelis. It's their own fault.

Well, Neildo: as long as we can blame the Israelis for something, right?

"You would have been able to shoot down those rockets that you didn't even know were going to attack you, if only you'd get with our evil weapons deals!"

:rolleyes:

Defensive weapons seem less evil.

Of course. My comments were satirical.

Sorry ... my irony module is currently offline for repairs :)

and you have lice in your beard

and you have lice in your beard
He's also a Jew

:confused:

are you talking about Zephyr?
because I was just singing de song about Nasrallah

Nieldo

The purpose of the MTHEL program is to develop and test the first mobile Directed Energy weapon system capable of detecting, tracking, engaging, and defeating Rockets/Artillery/Mortars (RAM), cruise missiles, short-range ballistic missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles

It don't exist yet and I was talking about existing systems, not Dream Land.

are you talking about Zephyr?
because I was just singing de song about Nasrallah

Oh sorry, it looked like you were commenting on Zephyr.

The purpose of the MTHEL program is to develop and test the first mobile Directed Energy weapon system capable of detecting, tracking, engaging, and defeating Rockets/Artillery/Mortars (RAM), cruise missiles, short-range ballistic missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles

Uh, MTHEL is the MOBILE version of THEL. THEL already exists. MTHEL got scrapped because the device is too bulky to lug around as a mobile unit.

"Northrop Grumman proposed to use "relocatable" THEL systems to counter mortar and rocket threats on US military facilities in Iraq. Since funding for the MTHEL program was cut in 2004, such system may not be available for deployment in the near future. A second generation "relocatable" THEL system is currently considered for deployment."

It don't exist yet and I was talking about existing systems, not Dream Land.

"During several tests in the USA, the system has shot down 25 Katyusha rockets, but has not been deployed."

"During a recent test conducted on Aug. 24, 2004 the system shot down multiple mortar rounds, demonstrating potential its battlefield application for to protection against common threats. The test represented actual mortar threat scenarios. Targets were intercepted by the THEL testbed and destroyed; both single mortar rounds and salvo were tested."

What are you talking about not yet exists and dream land? It exists. It can do everything you say it can't. They're about to first be deployed in Taiwan in defense from the Chinese. What doesn't yet exist is a mobile version of it -- MTHEL.

one example is the constant reference to Hezbullah missiles, Hezbullah isn't using missiles, they are using Katushia and Frogs ( Free Rocket Over Ground ) rockets, and the flight profile and time of flight make shooting them down almost imposable, besides the fact that they come at you in groups 12 to 24 rockets at a time, and that is from a single launcher, now put two or three of these launchers together in a barrage, systems become over whelmed, the reason that the anti missile systems works is the time of flight of a guided missile, it allows acquisition, tracking, counter launch, and interception, you pick up a guided missile as it comes over the horizon at the edge of space, rockets never leave atmosphere and most never rise above a altitude of 20, 000 ft, they fly a parabolic path to their target, this allow for anti mortar radar to compute for a launch point and fire counter battery but they cannot intercept the rocket of mortar rounds in flight, they only can hope to get the launcher and crew.

It seems technology has outpaced you.

And just to remain on topic, heh, today at work I got everyone singing "yalla ya Nasrallah - we will screw you inshallah we will send you back to Allah, with all the Hezbollah!". Was stuck it everyone's heads all day. An ex-Israeli intelligence guy grinned with delight over it. I wonder if there's some kinda subliminal messaging in it? :p

- N

If it hasen't been deployed it isn't in the real world.

Nieldo none of these systems are in production, therefore not in the real world, to be useful the system must exist in real time, and at the point of need, all else is dream land.

He's also a Jew

Err...excuse me?

Err...excuse me?

Zephyr not Nasrullah :p (misunderstanding)

That's not answering the question, Sam. Was that supposed to be a joke of some kind?

That's not answering the question, Sam. Was that supposed to be a joke of some kind?

Of course not. I saw otheadp's post under Zephyr's and mistakenly thought it was aimed at him.
Don't go sensitive on me Geoff; I cleared it with otheadp a couple posts later

Of course not. I saw otheadp's post under Zephyr's and mistakenly thought it was aimed at him.
I think Geoff is policing the board to be certain no one here offends the Chosen People in any way.

It's okay. Everyone has their weaknesses. I certainly have mine.

Anyway he lives in a pineapple; he's bound to be prickly. :p

It's okay. Everyone has their weaknesses. I certainly have mine.

Anyway he lives in a pineapple; he's bound to be prickly. :p
That's one word that could be used! :rolleyes: