Hezbollah rejects ceasefire with Israel (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/July/middleeast_July327.xml&section=middleeast)
Hezbollah on Monday rejected a ceasefire on terms dictated by Israel, with a senior member of the Lebanese Shiite militia rejecting the conditions set by the Jewish state
“We accept no conditions for a ceasefire, whatever the pressure,” Abdullah Kasir, a member of Hezbollah’s central committee, told AFP.
Well said ,the soldiers of Hezbollah telling Israel to go fuck itself , I like that , terms dictated by Israel ! I wonder just what were those conditions the usual the same conditions Israel set with Palestine, i.e. YOU stop shooting at Israel but WE Israelis carry on missile attacks , extra-judicial assasinations and missile attacks .
Israel softens conditions for cease-fire (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060717/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_166;_ylt=AoVlwuyXnhRBX6qnJ30Yf8sUvi oA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday that the fighting in Lebanon would end when two Israeli soldiers were freed, rocket attacks stopped and the Lebanese army deployed along the border. But he appeared to scale back from previous demands for Hezbollah to be dismantled.
Ahahahahaha ! looks like Israel is set to eat crow in front of the world , Hezbollah has got israel beat , looks like to me Americas mad dog sic em Israel is pussy cat . Looks like Iran will eat the Israelis alive in any future conflict .

Looks like Iran will eat the Israelis alive in any future conflict .
I've heard that about the Iranians too. It was on Fox news.

(OK, I'm lying - we don't get Fox news. We only have proper news over here. And channel 5.)

I've heard that about the Iranians too. It was on Fox news.

(OK, I'm lying - we don't get Fox news. We only have proper news over here. And channel 5.)
Get your facts straight man!!,...Israel is militarily superior in technology and warfare,...any arab will tell you that!!

Regardless of any argument, religious or otherwise. The fact is that Israel is the occupying power. If we were occupied by a super power (militarily & financially) I thinks that we too would resolved to stones, little rockets, etc. ect. What ever came to anyone’s mind to kick the oppressors?

Looks like Iran will eat the Israelis alive in any future conflict .
I've heard that about the Iranians too. It was on Fox news.
Get your facts straight man!!,...Israel is militarily superior in technology and warfare,...any arab will tell you that!!
I was thinking more about the method of dispatch rather than military superiority.

Have you ever seen 'Cannibal Holocaust'?

BF the fat lady hasn't even arrived on stage yet, this is the warm up round.

Foley: Just as Israel is gearing up for a land assault.... A bit too early don't you think?

Brian, don't twist the facts. israel doesn't wish a cease fire at this moment. it is the world nations, and specially lebanon, who try to end the crisis. whether you like it or not israel is by far more likely to win this war. just ask your friend nasrallah who is currently hiding in his bunker.

well said "aaa"!!!

Brian, don't twist the facts. israel doesn't wish a cease fire at this moment. it is the world nations, and specially lebanon, who try to end the crisis. whether you like it or not israel is by far more likely to win this war. just ask your friend nasrallah who is currently hiding in his bunker.
AAA, i hope you are well.

So do you think that Israel will be able to accompolish their objectives and destroy hizbollah?

israel doesn't wish a cease fire at this moment.

http://www.krqe.com/archives/expanded.asp?RECORD_KEY%5bNews%5d=ID&ID%5BNews%5D=16260 .Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel isn't looking for a war, but won't be frightened by one. In an impassioned speech to parliament, Olmert said the fighting in Lebanon can end as soon as Hezbollah takes action.
Olmert wants them to stop firing rockets into Israel and to free two captured soldiers.


It seems that Israel has already offered conditions of a cease fire which are reasonable. It is Hezbullah that wants this war ...actually Syria and Iran...

Its interesting to note that Iranian made missiles imported from Syria are being launched upon Israels cities... and more notably a warship.... But blaming them is just like blaming Russia for giving all those terrorists AK-47's... Still interesting though.

What has interested me further is the lack of media coverage over the sinking of an Egyptian vessel off the coast of lebanon. This vessel was sunk by the same type of missile that struck the Israeli warship (so its thought) and practically at the same time...
What will be Egypts reaction to this seeing as it doesn't have the best relations with any of the sides involved?

Its interesting to note that Iranian made missiles imported from Syria are being launched upon Israels cities... and more notably a warship.... But blaming them is just like blaming Russia for giving all those terrorists AK-47's... Still interesting though.

What has interested me further is the lack of media coverage over the sinking of an Egyptian vessel off the coast of lebanon. This vessel was sunk by the same type of missile that struck the Israeli warship (so its thought) and practically at the same time...
What will be Egypts reaction to this seeing as it doesn't have the best relations with any of the sides involved?
Hello Space,

how are you, thank you for your comments, re:about the eygptian vessel, i was thinking the same thing yesterday, good point.

With regards to Iran and Syria, The west just loves to blame them, any connection will do them. So what if Iran/Syria gives hizbollah weapons, the US and friends give weapons to Israel to better massacre innocent civialians whats the difference one wonders!

http://www.krqe.com/archives/expanded.asp?RECORD_KEY%5bNews%5d=ID&ID%5BNews%5D=16260

It seems that Israel has already offered conditions of a cease fire which are reasonable. It is Hezbullah that wants this war ...actually Syria and Iran...
Well actually whre is your proof that Iran and Syria want this war. You could argue that Israel has been planning this for months, seems they were pretty quick to start the destruction.

So what do Hizbollah get in return for the ceasefire, it would be perfectly reasonable if Israel made concessions aswell.

Hello Space,

how are you, thank you for your comments, re:about the eygptian vessel, i was thinking the same thing yesterday, good point.

With regards to Iran and Syria, The west just loves to blame them, any connection will do them. So what if Iran/Syria gives hizbollah weapons, the US and friends give weapons to Israel to better massacre innocent civialians whats the difference one wonders!

The difference is that Hezbollah is just like hamas in that they are a terrorist organization funded and supported to push a certain agenda that is in conflict with peace.

Well actually whre is your proof that Iran and Syria want this war. You could argue that Israel has been planning this for months, seems they were pretty quick to start the destruction.

So what do Hizbollah get in return for the ceasefire, it would be perfectly reasonable if Israel made concessions aswell.
Why the hell should they get anything? They did come across borders and kidnap two Israelis. That is just asking for conflict.

The difference is that Hezbollah is just like hamas in that they are a terrorist organization funded and supported to push a certain agenda that is in conflict with peace.
What terrorist action have they performed to justify the ongioing Israeli terror and masscare of innocent Lebanese people.

Why the hell should they get anything? They did come across borders and kidnap two Israelis. That is just asking for conflict.
They captured to soldiers, shows how slack the israelis have got. yes i am afraid it is asking for conflict when the Israelis already had a plan in place to smash lebanon to bits in the vein hope of destroying hizbollah.

Not to mention the amount of abductions the Israelis have done to various Palestinians etc...

I am sure the Lebanonese people are extremely terrified which means that Israel are in fact the terrorists.

Lets smash the entire country to oblivion becuase hizbollah captured 2 israeli soliders, that sound pretty reasonable to me.

So in saying this hamas has the right to fire their shit rockets at israel cos israel has kidnapped Palestinian elected MP's among others.

They captured to soldiers, shows how slack the israelis have got. yes i am afraid it is asking for conflict when the Israelis already had a plan in place to smash lebanon to bits in the vein hope of destroying hizbollah.

Not to mention the amount of abductions the Israelis have done to various Palestinians etc...

I am sure the Lebanonese people are extremely terrified which means that Israel are in fact the terrorists.

Lets smash the entire country to oblivion becuase hizbollah captured 2 israeli soliders, that sound pretty reasonable to me.

So in saying this hamas has the right to fire their shit rockets at israel cos israel has kidnapped Palestinian elected MP's among others.
You are just talking out of your butt now right?

You are just talking out of your butt now right?
qUIGLY

Thank you for your response.

What makes you think that? i know it was a little incherent but dont you agree????

They captured to soldiers, shows how slack the israelis have got. yes i am afraid it is asking for conflict when the Israelis already had a plan in place to smash lebanon to bits in the vein hope of destroying hizbollah. proof please. Israel pulled out in 2000. Despite being egged on on several occassions, this is the first time its been responded to with this kind of force.

Not to mention the amount of abductions the Israelis have done to various Palestinians etc... Hezbollah? Show me some proof.

I am sure the Lebanonese people are extremely terrified which means that Israel are in fact the terrorists. show me proof.

Lets smash the entire country to oblivion becuase hizbollah captured 2 israeli soliders, that sound pretty reasonable to me. rising tensions no doubt.

AAA, i hope you are well.

So do you think that Israel will be able to accompolish their objectives and destroy hizbollah?

hey there Zakariya. i'm fine , how are you? i think israel has already made a good progress, which will eventually benefit lebanon. its people are suffering only because of hizballah and they should stop supporting it. if not destroyed, hizballah must be terminated in order to achieve peace.

indeed
well done Hizballah
for destroying the host country you're parasiting

also, well done Iran
for getting innocent Lebanese to suffer for your insane Islamic Revolution and stubborn rejectionism

Iran warns Israel against attacks on Lebanon (http://english.people.com.cn/200607/19/eng20060719_284393.html)
Iran warned on Tuesday that every part of Israel's territory could be attacked during its battle with Lebanese Hezbollah.

"No part of Israel will be safe, the towns you built in northern Palestine (Israel) are within the range of the brave Lebanese children," parliament speaker Gholam Ali Haddad Adel told thousands of Tehranis attending an anti-Israel rally in Palestine Square.
Looks like Israel isnt intimidating anyone in the Mid East anymore , however this adds up a lot of Israeli squatters are going to have their Zionism put tothe test . This means one thing the hour glass for Israels Zionist nightmare is running empty .

Iran warned on Tuesday that every part of Israel's territory could be attacked during its battle with Lebanese Hezbollah.

"No part of Israel will be safe, the towns you built in northern Palestine (Israel) are within the range of the brave Lebanese children," parliament speaker Gholam Ali Haddad Adel told thousands of Tehranis attending an anti-Israel rally in Palestine Square.

So Iran is threatening Israel with the children of Lebanon.... I wonder what sort of stockpile of Lebanese children Iran has built up and what the tactical range of a Lebanese child is....

This means one thing the hour glass for the Hezbola, nightmare is running empty . A more accurate statement Mr. Foley, the Palistian Authority have finally pissed even their brother Arabs, and before it through Syria and Iran are going to be in deep shit to.

Sock puppet path: lol, a lebonese child has an effective range of 450kms with a maximum of 520kms. It contains 100kg of C4 explosives surrounded by up to 7000 largish ball bearings and scrap metal. The lethal blast range of this weapons is approximately 25m and a danger zone of up to 150m. :p

Well if what foley says is true then fantastic. The UN won't need any justification to declare war on Iran when it decides to attack Israel. Thats one problem solved

I think the whole mid east crisis is just repeating itself again, every statement I personally hear from high officials is just dejavu. All Syria and Iran has to do is stop arming and supporting Hezbolla and all the U.S has to do is stop financing and supporting Israel. What the U.S business is in that region is beyond me, but then I consider the fact that Jews also own many big businesses in the U.S. I read Israel did actually buy most of their occupied land legally, though I wonder where they got the money from and whom they actually paid. It doesn’t appear that the transaction was ever democratic and consensus so its plausible to rule out that factor. The other viewpoint is that Israel emerged from a place the Romans first called Syria Paleastina, the Jews started out there as a minority and Israel was not recognized as a considerable state until after several Aaliyahs and liberating civil wars. The ties between Jews in the U.S and Israel must be deeper than many people can ever imagine because its never easy for a minority to suddenly become the majority, much less a dictator. So somehow a tiny Jewish state was created in and around a haven of Arab states, either its a miracle this happened or a manifestation of political and military power only the U.S could help afford. The State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948. The Palestines have been through a lot, at first they were ambivalent of the immigrating Jews (Aliyah) but anti-Semitism started and grew in Europe then caught up in the Mid East. So its rather Ironic that Europe who started anti-Semitism and forced Jews to migrate elsewhere are the same coalition forcing Palestine and Lebanon to accept the Jews by almost choking them down their throat. I think Israelites have always had a problem finding their true home, they don't want to accept the fact that they have a history of rejection and despise. I am not making this up, just look at the many empires and states that have denounced them: Egypt, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Sassanian, and 20th century Europe. At last the Jews finally have someone to bully. Maybe as the Jewish doctrine denotes the true home of the jew is in heaven and not on earth.

I think the whole mid east crisis is just repeating itself again, every statement I personally hear from high officials is just dejavu. All Syria and Iran has to do is stop arming and supporting Hezbolla and all the U.S has to do is stop financing and supporting Israel. What the U.S business is in that region is beyond me, but then I consider the fact that Jews also own many big businesses in the U.S. I read Israel did actually buy most of their occupied land legally, though I wonder where they got the money from and whom they actually paid. It doesn’t appear that the transaction was ever democratic and consensus so its plausible to rule out that factor. The other viewpoint is that Israel emerged from a place the Romans first called Syria Paleastina, the Jews started out there as a minority and Israel was not recognized as a considerable state until after several Aaliyahs and liberating civil wars. The ties between Jews in the U.S and Israel must be deeper than many people can ever imagine because its never easy for a minority to suddenly become the majority, much less a dictator. So somehow a tiny Jewish state was created in and around a haven of Arab states, either its a miracle this happened or a manifestation of political and military power only the U.S could help afford. The State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948. The Palestines have been through a lot, at first they were ambivalent of the immigrating Jews (Aliyah) but anti-Semitism started and grew in Europe then caught up in the Mid East. So its rather Ironic that Europe who started anti-Semitism and forced Jews to migrate elsewhere are the same coalition forcing Palestine and Lebanon to accept the Jews by almost choking them down their throat. I think Israelites have always had a problem finding their true home, they don't want to accept the fact that they have a history of rejection and despise. I am not making this up, just look at the many empires and states that have denounced them: Egypt, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Sassanian, and 20th century Europe. Maybe as the Jewish doctrine denotes the true home of the jew is in heaven and not on earth.
Excellent post. You touched on the key ingredients here.

Troll Thread!! too much rheotric!

So its rather Ironic that Europe who started anti-Semitism and forced Jews to migrate elsewhere are the same coalition forcing Palestine and Lebanon to accept the Jews by almost choking them down their throat.
Maybe they feel guilty, but would rather their guilt hurt others. Maybe the Palestinians should start blowing up Europeans to let them know how they feel about this :rolleyes: Or maybe everyone could learn to live together...

proof please. Israel pulled out in 2000. Despite being egged on on several occassions, this is the first time its been responded to with this kind of force.{/QUOTE]
I will find it, apprantly they were gojng to invade on the 12th June, but something happened which meant that had to postpone it for a while, the captuiring of the IDf soliders by hizbollah last week gave the best pretext.
[QUOTE=Quigly]
Hezbollah? Show me some proof.
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They openly admit to kidnapping abduicting and throwing inprison legally elcted palestinian MP's, scientists, civilians. they dont admit to abducting children and women though even though they do..

show me proof.
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Have you been watching the news (other than any shite coming straigh out of the Kamida party broadcasting service)

I suppose Quigly you are far to hard to be terrified by F16's dropping bombs on your neigbourhood. i wish i was as hard as you. If i was in lebanon now i would be shitting my self and terrified to the hilt.

rising tensions no doubt.

i dont understand this bit

hey there Zakariya. i'm fine , how are you? i think israel has already made a good progress, which will eventually benefit lebanon. its people are suffering only because of hizballah and they should stop supporting it. if not destroyed, hizballah must be terminated in order to achieve peace.
Hi aaa, i am good thank you, i hope all is ok with you.

I really dont think Israel will be able to defeat Hizoallah as they could not do it before they pulled out of lebanon in 2000. Surely if they could do it they would have done it then. now they are stronger then they were then.

We must also understand that israel is no where near the inocent godlen child in any of this

take care

If i was in lebanon now i would be shitting my self and terrified to the hilt.
As would I. I wouldn't be happy in Haifa either.

Hi Zep, i hope you are ok and trying to get your head round the next catastrophy to hit the Middle east!
Yes, I would be shitting myself if i was in haifa too. Mind you i would be less shitting myself if i was in a city/town in northern israel then i would be if iwas in a city/town in South Lebanon.

I am afriad we are not all as hard as Quigly