Yesterday Israel fired a rocket into a crowd of civilians. Israel said "We were trying to stamp out terrorism". The Israeli attack IS terrorism. At least ten civilians died, including children.

If the United Nations has any validity at all, it should invade, crush, and rebuild Israel. The USA should demand Israel disarm and destroy all its weapons of mass destruction. Our SAS should assassinate Israeli leaders. In other words, I really hope someone destoys the Israeli state. At the very least get rid of their racist bastard government.

Exactly, Adam... I hope so too. Evil bastards :mad:

Tonight on TV was a show all about the Israel/Palestine business. The guy interviewed some chap from the Israeli government. The reporter questioned him about that attack on Monday, against a crowd of civilians. The Israeli gummint chap said they were terrorists. The reporter asked about an old woman walking with a cane who was shot by an Israeli soldier as she tried to enter a hospital. The Israeli gummint chap said she was a terrorist.

Originally posted by Adam
Tonight on TV was a show all about the Israel/Palestine business. The guy interviewed some chap from the Israeli government. The reporter questioned him about that attack on Monday, against a crowd of civilians. The Israeli gummint chap said they were terrorists. The reporter asked about an old woman walking with a cane who was shot by an Israeli soldier as she tried to enter a hospital. The Israeli gummint chap said she was a terrorist.

Yup! that is the sad part that is what anger arab world. Too bad the west can't see this and think that whole muslim world is terrorist. US doesn't care what Israel does, since palestanians are not humans for US:rolleyes: and Israelis are :rolleyes:..........people still ask why they hate us and israel and briton? Is it a rocket science ?. Very sad.:(

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Sharon needs to go. Sharon is not a man of peace. However, I seem to have missed all these terrorist attacks in recent times you've talked about. I see a continuous line of Palestinians aiming civilians and Israeli's trying to kill Hamas and destroy Arafat's power.

There's a couple problems I have with this situation:
- Anti-Israeli's who go on about how evil Sharon is. Fuck that. Arafat and Sharon are both blood-hungry assholes who are detrimental to any peace movement. Accept that fact and stop talking about it. You sound like all the morons who just start threads like "Bush is dumb!".

- Palestinians (excluding this incident, of which I believe Israel made a horrible mistake in) and their supporters complaining about the evil of recent Israeli attacks. Here's the kooky thing - every time there's been something of a break in the killings, a suicide bomber has come back to start it all again. Then Israel baracades someone or kills some Hamas members and Palestinian supporters call the Israeli's murderers and that they are justified in killing more Israeli civilians. Palestinian's aren't even trying to be normal fighters and attack military, they openly admitt their only goal is to kill the innocent civlians. Not a good basis for your system.

- Israeli dumb-asses who seem to think that locking off Arafat will help in diminishing his power. How many attempts does it take before we learn this INCREASES his popularity???

GB, you particularily shock me on this whole thing.

The fact that you are anti-Israeli truly shocks me. You openly call yourself a peace-loving man, hell, you don't believe in hunting. But you support a nation who's sole goal in a fight is to kill civilians??

Israel needs a new leader. But let me assure you that the Israeli's will not elect a more peaceful man until their bus stations, universities and children stop getting blown up.

Originally posted by Tyler
GB, you particularily shock me on this whole thing.

The fact that you are anti-Israeli truly shocks me. You openly call yourself a peace-loving man, hell, you don't believe in hunting. But you support a nation who's sole goal in a fight is to kill civilians??

Israel needs a new leader. But let me assure you that the Israeli's will not elect a more peaceful man until their bus stations, universities and children stop getting blown up.

In fact that is not the sole goal of the nation, the sole goal of the nation I support is to eradicate Palestinian terrorists and to incorporate the occupied territories fully into Israel with as many illegal Jewish settlement as possible.

There is no Palestinian nation- Palestine can't be treated like a nation unless Israel gives them that status.

Oh, and if the sole purpose was to kill civilians, why are there politics in the occupied territories? You need to do some actual reading on this and you will find that most Palestinians aren't terrorists.

While you read articles and watch newsflashes on TV about how X # of innocent Israelis were just killed by a bomb, I read that too. But I like to make it all even, after that I always read something like this (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1004/p11s01-coop.html).

"In fact that is not the sole goal of the nation, the sole goal of the nation I support is to eradicate Palestinian terrorists and to incorporate the occupied territories fully into Israel with as many illegal Jewish settlement as possible."

I was talking about Palestinians, actually. The Israeli goal under Sharon is to maintain it's power in any way possible. The Palestinian goal, as it stands, seems to be to kill civilians until they get a nation.


"Oh, and if the sole purpose was to kill civilians, why are there politics in the occupied territories? You need to do some actual reading on this and you will find that most Palestinians aren't terrorists."

Okay, I figured with you I didn't need to state "....and develope a Palestinian nation". Of course, I may ahve been wrong in figuring you already knew this, but I doubt it.

Also, you'll notice I said "The sole goal IN A FIGHT". But let's not worry about little things like that, eh?

Oh, and the newspaper I get at home is Anti-Israeli. I read New York Times online as well as a number of other sources.

When the Israeli's stormed Arafat's campus it was the front line on the paper. When the Palestinians blew up the University or caused the major bombings a little while ago it was 12th to 15th page news.

The reason for that isn't favourites, Arafat is the leader of a nation in the center of a hot conflict, those who died were civilians. That's the way the press works :(

However different papers work different ways.

tyler, i think you're forgetting that the israeli army uses grenades and rockets to take out a single man, and does not regret the fact that numerous others that have nothing to do with suicide bombings are killed by that same grenade.

the suicide bombers bomb the innocent, just as the israeli kill the innocent. it's the only way for the suicide bombers to fight back, while the israelis can take out a single man by a single bullet, not necessarily by a grenade that takes out an entire block of houses, and people living in it.

i'm not pro-israeli or pro-palestinian here, but reading your posts i just felt like you were overlooking this fact.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29217

Whatever happend to them building that big wall? Somewhere on the westbank or something.

The USA should demand Israel disarm and destroy all its weapons of mass destruction.

Well, I guess they could try, but here's something Mr. Sharon has to say about such an idea:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.

Originally posted by MacZ
Well, I guess they could try, but here's something Mr. Sharon has to say about such an idea:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


Well, Macz, I have read it before first hand, when he said it and also heard the news clip from some thing called al-hebron or something. It is a known fact for us americans but we are too afraid to say anything in public. I tell you today that no american goverment or president can stay in power if they dare try to say anything against Israel or Jewish people. They are infact the real rulers of us. How strange?.

Skywalker,
There are more factors then just Israel, you should consider all other nations in region supported by USA, and their dictator leaders as well. Oppressed and rule by few thugs, we are creating a very dangerous generation, just for our benefits. Only time will tell the draw backs of what ever is happening and what ever is about to come regarding middile east. May Allah help us all.

There's no excuse. The paper is very clearly anti-Israeli. There's papers out that are pro-Israeli. I just happen to get the former.

And for this whole Israeli-Palestine incident there is just one thing that needs to get done - Arafat out of power and Sharon out of power. Peace cannot happen with either of them. Sharon will not be voted out of power, unfortunatly, until Israeli civilians can feel safe going to get the bus. Arafat will not get out of power until he's forced out and certainly not while Israel is taking over his headquarters, which only raises his support.

It's a terrible little circle.

Yea, if you ask me, the "leadership" on both sides is a joke. My only problem with pulling support for Israel, at least too suddenly, is it would drastically de-stablize the region (moreso).

Imagine that. Wiping out the current leaders around there. What do you think would happen if they all suddenly dropped dead?

Hmmm, well if by some miracle Sharon and Arafat both died of natural causes?

Nothing would change. My guess is the Palestinian head would be one of Arafat's men who was just as war-lovin' as the big man himself and Sharon would, of course, be replaced by a member of his cabinet. There would probably be relative peace for a short while and then the first attack would happen before Israeli elections rolled around and the Jews would just re-elect a Sharon-esque leader. And, of course, it's not like the Palestinians have a real election.

The thing is, Arafat has said he wants peace and actually tried to make it, while Sharon has been (mostly) obstructive of peace although he made one or two attempts at it. The thing is, Arafat just wants his land back, but Sharon wants the Palestinians all to die horrible deaths.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.

:p

Why didn't you respond to that? Most Israeli prime ministers have said shocking things to that affect.

The thing is, Arafat just wants his land back, but Sharon wants the Palestinians all to die horrible deaths.

:rolleyes:

Oh, brother, what a one-side propagandized version of events that is!

We could just as well (and as truthfully) say that Sharon just wants a place for the Jews to live in peace but Arafat wants to drive the Jews into the sea.

Originally posted by GB-GIL Trans-global
The thing is, Arafat has said he wants peace and actually tried to make it, while Sharon has been (mostly) obstructive of peace although he made one or two attempts at it. The thing is, Arafat just wants his land back, but Sharon wants the Palestinians all to die horrible deaths.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.

:p

Why didn't you respond to that? Most Israeli prime ministers have said shocking things to that affect.

The Jewish lobby in America is huge, mostly because they are supported by right-wing Christian religious fanatics as well. I think government and society should stick to what can be proven when making decisions, and leave religion inside the homes of individuals.

http://www.anus.com/anus/issues/dualism/

Originally posted by postoak
:rolleyes:

Oh, brother, what a one-side propagandized version of events that is!

We could just as well (and as truthfully) say that Sharon just wants a place for the Jews to live in peace but Arafat wants to drive the Jews into the sea.

Are you of either Jewish or Palestinian descent?

Sharon is also responsible for those nasty massacres in Sabra and Shatila... if I were Israel, I'd replace him on that basis alone.

That is, if my rhetoric was against "terrorism"

Interview with Israeli black metal band:
http://www.anus.com/metal/interviews/salem/

All Muslim shit need to die now. Especially Palestinians and Sodi Arabians and the commes in Iraq. :mad:

Originally posted by God Is Real
All Muslim shit need to die now. Especially Palestinians and Sodi Arabians and the commes in Iraq. :mad:

God Is Real (Fertilizer).

Originally posted by prozak
God Is Real (Fertilizer).

We should also extermenate racist freaks like you. Because racism is evil and He hateth racists.

Because you hate jews you should die comme bastard :mad:

We should also extermenate racist freaks like you. Because racism is evil and He hateth racists.

God is upseteth with youeth. Thou willeth be destroyedeth witheth myeth gianteth thingeth....:bugeye:

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
We should also extermenate racist freaks like you. Because racism is evil and He hateth racists.

God is upseteth with youeth. Thou willeth be destroyedeth witheth myeth gianteth thingeth....:bugeye:

We should also kill the ignorant fulcks like you atheist crap :mad:

US is a cristian nation and we will kill all atheists if they do not leave the country when the law is made. Because atheists are evil. They have no morals and they dont deserve to be citisins. :mad:

I am fucking evil.

http://www.anus.com/altar/

lol.