Islamists: Bombing own Mosques (w/brothers) is OK, comic cartoons by Christians, no!

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Kiwi123, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. Kiwi123 Banned Banned

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    Islamists: Bombing own Mosques in Iraq & Pakistan, (w/brothers) is OK, but comic cartoons over their "prophet"? No!

    Well, just trail this along their hypocrisy record and over all behavior, whether be of years long of hate-cartoons, or their 'collective-punishment' of all Danes (boycotts and death threats) or on all infidels (from threatening 'more 9/11' this time on Europe! or Muslim attacking Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims killing Christians in Nigeria, etc.).

    But I am about to puke if I hear one more time a sick "explanation" line like: 'The Muslims care so passionately about their prophet'.
     
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  3. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Any chance you might manage to choke on your own vomit? Just a thought. A pleasant one I grant you, but it brought a fleeting moment of pleasure
     
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  5. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    hear you are attacking yet another poster, you are a happy person are you not.

    The question he is asking is how can people claim to be religous, yet blow there mosques up, i dont know of any other religon whose followers blow up there places of worship, where on earth is all there anger & violence coming from.

    How can they bleed for there brother muslims oppressed in iraq, yet blow up there brother muslims in mosques in there own country, is this not being a hypocrite.
     
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  7. draqon Banned Banned

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    hmmm....seems like Koran has some "holes" for evil doing...
     
  8. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    I want to know what the beef is with the two Islamic groups. Don't follow the same God. They might have different ways but they should just unite.
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    its not the beef...its the chicken...and not just chicken...an american chicken...and not just any american chicken...but an american chicken from Texas...and not just any American Texan chicken...but a bush dwelling from Texas chicken...between these two groups.
     
  10. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    Insted of directing anger towards each other.....unite and direct towards else where
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    towards the chicken.
     
  12. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    Hahahhahahahahahahahaha.

    Ok, now that that's done, this is why. The seperate sects (Sunni, Sufi and Shi'ite) all have different interpretations of their Holy Prophet's teachings. Just like Christians split into Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy after the Great Schism in the Byzantine Empire heyday era, the different sects all have different interpretations of the teachings, of how the leadership should be arranged (some support having a caliph, others disagree...passionately), and many other issues. Again, like usual, it's having many small differences that grow into a large problem. Many times, the only things they Islamic major sects have in common is that they worship a god called Allah and study a prophet named Mohammed. Division is a problem widespread in all of life, not even just human. Trying to solve that is like trying to argue with Happeh; it won't happen.

    AmishRakeFight
     
  13. draqon Banned Banned

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    nice...Happeh became the ultimate legend...a parallel to the world
     
  14. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The rivalry between the Sunni and Shia sects is literally almost as ancient as Islam itself. It started shortly after the death of Mohammed. Try looking it up on Google and it will just give you a headache. It is incredibly complicated and it makes about as much sense (and is about as interesting) to an outsider as the internal politics of the Church of England. Some dude was supposed to get something and some other dude kept him from getting it and some other dude got killed... It goes on for pages and pages.

    In summary, it's about as arcane a head-scratcher as the rift between Protestant and Catholic Christians, and they've been killing each other off for centuries too.

    Which brings me to my point, one I've made on many threads here over the years. Islam looks crazy to us because we live in a predominantly Christian civilization and we're used to it. But to an outsider there really is no important difference between the two major Abrahamic faiths. They are both centered on monotheism, patriarchy, and evangelism: three of humanity's worst ideas. Their nations make war against each other, against the rest of us, and even among themselves when they can't find anybody else to hate.

    Christians have obliterated entire civilizations (the Aztec and Inca) just as Muslims did (Egypt). That's about the worst thing anybody can do. There's no reason to hold either of them in higher regard than the other. They both should be held in the utmost contempt.
     
  15. james20 Registered Member

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    vincent you see, its not all of the muslims who are doing this. its just some radical few and terrorists that werent in iraq before when saddam was in power. terrorists will go where there is no law to cause problems, just like the congo, colombia, and now iraq.

    and if you didnt know their are chrisitans killing muslims in nigeria, and in sri lanka the same thing is happening, its not about religion. dont generalize like you have been there. i have, and ive met people who just want to live ordinary lives. 101st out.

    fraggle thats the best post ive read here today.
     
  16. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    The question is about pakistan as well lets not blame it all on insurgents in iraq, why are sunnis blowing up shia mosques in pakistan & vica versa, this has been going on for decades there.


    "terrorists will go where there is no law "

    If there is no law in pakistan,what on earth are they doing with nuclear weapons!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. FantAsia Banned Banned

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    Because of Pakistani nuke threat (from radicals inside) that's the reason why Bush is giving a deal to India.
     
  18. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    In Pakistan, those who blow up Shia establishments from time to time are captured and executed by the Sunni themselves. We do not allow this, and when this happens, the strictest punishments are used. Also what about bombing of mosques in Kahmir and India, who is responsible for that? What about rioters breaking of mosques and vandalism in India? It is also well-known that India and Russia have agents inside Pakistan, which were used to snipe, bomb, and murder dozens during the era of Pakistani support of Afghanistan independence war from the Soviets.

    Pakistan has nuclear weapons because its greatest rival India obtained them first (which is tested near the Pakistan border) and used it to try and threaten Pakistan into submission after fighting three wars with them. After Pakistan obtained nuclear weapons, we always made it clear it was for self-defense and a check against Indian aggression. Pakistan also agreed on a joint India Pakistan signing of the NPT and constantly calls for reducing of arms buildup, but India disagrees. Pakistan has weapons only to defend itself.

    Vincent's answer for all problems of the world: Pakistan is somehow involved.
     
  19. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    Christian Europeans might have done so, but one can't blame the religion. That would be like saying that blame religion for the unjust policies of certain kings and ruling elites. Christianity is a peaceful and just religion.

    At the time the Muslims conquered Egypt, the nation had been destroyed by the Romans who had held the territory for many years. The Muslims defeated the Romans to enter into the territory and rule it. The majority of people immediately embraced Islam, fed up with Christian Roman rule. Egypt produced the world's greatest Muslim heros and legends. The people who first defeated the Pagan Mongols were the Egyptians under command of Imam Ibn Taymiyah. Also the Islamic state was ruled by the Mamluks who were former slaves and would still have been if the Pharoahs ruled the country. Islam liberated the slave practice of Egypt and gained wide support as the poor man's religion. Most Egyptians today speak the Arabic language but by ancestry are Egyptians. Even today, Egypt preserves its rich legacy and sees itself as a purely Islamic nation with a diverse past and an influential future among Arab and Islamic states.

    Religion is not the problem behind violence in the world, this is a major fallacy. Infact, the Russian Soviets who were athiest killed many of their dissidents and engaged in extermination of native Muslim Tartars and Vainakhs. The Chinese under Communists repressed many people, particulary Nepal and Muslim majority region of Xianjiang. The colonizers of the West during the colonial period disregarded religion and invaded and enslaved many people in Africa. Religion was used as a tool, not a motive, for invading Non-Western nations. Even today, the secularists in the West issue this lie that religion is responsible for violence to avert their blame and put blame on indigenous peoples of the world who are highly religious like Muslims.
     
  20. s0meguy Worship me or suffer eternally Valued Senior Member

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    Crusades, witch burnings, Galileo anyone?

    Religions are tools, nothing more.
     
  21. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    Communism does not equal atheism.

    "But to an outsider there really is no important difference between the two major Abrahamic faiths. They are both centered on monotheism, patriarchy, and evangelism: three of humanity's worst ideas. "

    Spot on.
     
  22. Tali75 Banned Banned

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    James, the problem is mainstream Islam's incitement, not just the "few".
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Yet another thread which could have one of two purposes:

    1. An innocent purpose - to say "terrorism is bad". Big deal, everybody agrees on that.
    2. A hidden agenda - to say "Islamic terrorism is bad", and all Muslims support terrorism. This would be unfairly stereotyping members of a religion.

    Kiwi123:

    What was your purpose in posting this thread?
     

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