Is the Universe Infinite?

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Captain Kremmen, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Well, Is it?
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Why even ask a question that no one know the answer to?

    There are theories BOTH ways - take your pick.:shrug:
     
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  5. temur man of no words Registered Senior Member

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    Infinite for all practical purposes

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  7. baftan ******* Valued Senior Member

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    Can you first define what do you mean by "infinite" and "universe" please...
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What definition of 'universe' are we using?
     
  9. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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  10. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    There is a clear distinction between someone who is speculating from a position of ignorance and one who is speculating from a position of authority. What many people fail to acknowledge is the vast difference between the former and the latter. In other words, one must not mistake science for a democracy.

    QW: you can troll this thread again, and be banned. The choice is yours.
     
  11. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    I was not trolling. If there is an answer to the OP, it has to be speculative. Speculation in the hard science forums like yours is not appropriate and so I considered the possibility of this thread being moved to Pseudoscience as a real possibility.
     
  12. prometheus viva voce! Registered Senior Member

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    On the contrary, real speculation that has any merit whatsoever is best left to the hard science forums.
     
  13. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    The Universe that I and you live in, and that began in the big bang.

    Note to anyone that doesn't really want to discuss this.
    Please go away now, or you will only upset yourselves.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    You want the question of whether the Universe is infinite or not moved to pseudoscience:bugeye:


    Is it the notion of infinity you want moved to pseudoscience, or only questions about the extent of the universe?
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, but that's not a definition.
    How about this:
    Universe: The totality of all matter, energy and space in existence anywhere.
     
  16. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't care about observability?
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Eh, no. That would be the observable universe you're talking about.
     
  18. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    That would do, I think.

    @ Ben
    Observable? Not sure. That's one of the concepts I find difficult.
    When we see stars through the best telescopes as they were, say, 10 Billion years ago, are they 10 Billion light years away, or further than that because of the expansion of space.
    I know the star itself may no longer exist, and that you are looking at it in the position it was 10 billion years ago.
     
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  19. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Ben. Do you think it might be better to move this thread to astronomy and cosmology? It could equally go there.
    For some reason it seems to be a subject which physicists feel is beneath them.
     
  20. Naturelles Future Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, and there might be other regions which we are disconnected from.
     
  21. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you say that?

    Do you think that more people would comment on it in the other sub forum?
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps, but in my view those regions are still part of the universe at large.
     
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know.
    It's a subject which is so rich in points of debate that I thought it would provoke a heated response.

    It is probably the first physics or cosmological problem which every intelligent child poses when they are told about space. Does it go on forever?

    I did a quick search before posting it in case it had been done to death, but I couldn't find anything recent on sciforums which directly asked the question.
     

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