http://www.yougov.com/yougov_website/asp_besPollArchives/pdf/OMI040101093_1.pdf


Do you think people in your neighbourhood would approve or
disapprove if more people from each of the following groups moved to
your area?




Australians
Approve 22
Not mind 63
Disapprove 5
Don't know 10

Black Africans
Approve 3
Not mind 36
Disapprove 43
Don't know 18

Iraqis
Approve 1
Not mind 15
Disapprove 64
Don't know 19

Pakistanis
Approve 2
Not mind 24
Disapprove 56
Don't know 18

Polish
Approve 6
Not mind 50
Disapprove 25
Don't know 19

Romanians
Approve 3
Not mind 29
Disapprove 48
Don't know 21


West Indians
Approve 4
Not mind 36
Disapprove 41
Don't know 19




Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: ‘Too many
immigrants are coming to Britain’
Agree 74
Disagree 18
Don't know 8


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Well there you have it, we can all stop being politically correct, although i never was, and look at the bare facts, of UK government polls, that clearly say we would rather, have immigrants from austrlia, living next to us, than blacks or muslims.

Whether we admit it openly or not, most people in the UK think like this, and these polls, just show up this reality.

74% think there is too many immigrants in the UK,


MUSLIMS

ONLY 1% WOULD APPROVE OF Iraqis LIVING NEXT DOOR

ONLY 2% WOULD APPROVE OF Pakistanis LIVING NEXT DOOR


NOW I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED MANY TIMES, OF BEING ANTI-MUSLIM, SO DOES THAT MAKE, THE REST OF THE UK ANTI-MUSLIM TOO,
I WONDER INDEED I PONDER.....

in an attempt to prove your own innocence, all you did is show the racist feelings of a large amount of your countrymen

bravo

vincent doesn't even live in the UK.

As long as your neighbors behave in a civil manner, who cares where they come from? I wouldn't care if a three legged man lived next door to me if he was a good neighbor.

I agree, but it is not racist to be patriotic about ones country, it is not racist to want to see your country grow strong without economic collapse, it is not racist to want to keep your country's original culture and desighn.

IT IS racist to give immigrants more help than our homeless (many ex-servicemen) on the street.
It is racist to promote a 'positive' racism on the nation, where it is OK for attacks on white people to be totally ignored by the press, while every black or asian attack is reported so fast it is almost as if they were there before it happened, and while workplace employees around the land have to fill a 'multicultural'
setting for jobs,so maybe they get an even 50-50 of white vs forieghn, so some white English born and bred men and women do not get jobs because they are white, nothing to do with how good they are or not, that comes second I REPEAT second to these people.

The muslim issue is part of it, that somehow the labour party believes that by doing them great favours they will not bomb us or consider us infidels, why is it then... that as soon as we turn our back there will be some muslim extremist ready to stick the knife straight in?
time and time again!
We help all these people and this is the thanks we get, and with every single day that passes the muslim voice may become stronger than the English one.
If pinko political correctness has it's own way we shall be bathed and soaked in the muslim voice, and the poisonous venom that calls itself the LABOUR party.

I ask you, is patriotism and love of your country wrong? Is love of your homeland and people wrong?
No,never not in this world!

in an attempt to prove your own innocence, all you did is show the racist feelings of a large amount of your countrymen

bravo
No what i have shown is, that i am not the minority here, my views reflect the
majority of the UK population, 98% of the people polled by the UK government, do not want a muslim living next door, pakistanis, and iraqis in this case, 96% dont want a black living next door.

People like myself who express these views openly, are accused of being in the minority, and of being racist, yet the majority of UK citizens share my views too.

"in an attempt to prove your own innocence"
The only thing i am guilty of, is wanting to save, my country from turning into another America, where the policeman, and muggers carry guns, at the moment we dont have this, but the more we open our doors to people, who can not even speak english, the more this will happen.

There is massive unemployment, amongst, blacks, asians, and arabs in the uk, white employers, dont want to give them jobs, does this not lead them into crime?

Hell if i want, a government council house, i have no chance theres a 20 year waiting list, yet i often see illegal immigrants, and non speaking engish, from 3rd world europe in council houses, hell the government gives them the keys for one, as soon as they touch down at heathrow.

Hell if i want, a government council house, i have no chance theres a 20 year waiting list, yet i often see illegal immigrants, and non speaking engish, from 3rd world europe in council houses
Many of them live there illegally.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1730816,00.html
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:nlDY7Mjcu3sJ:www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml%3Fxml%3D/news/2005/08/11/nbakri11.xml%26sSheet%3D/portal/2005/08/11/ixportaltop.html+Omar+Bakri+Mohammed+housing+benef it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

This is the story of Omar Bakri Mohammed, banned from the uk, after living there for 20 years, and siring 7 uk kids.

Mr Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has collected up to £300,000 in various benefits during his 19 years in Britain,


He receives £331.28 a month in incapacity benefit and £183.30 a month in disability living allowance because of a leg injury he suffered in his teens.

Both payments will continue for at least six months while he is abroad, as long as he plans to return, as will the housing benefit on his home in Edmonton, north London, and his council tax benefit.

His wife, who remains in Britain with their seven children, can also continue to claim a benefits package thought to be worth at least £1,300 a month. Bakri drives a Toyota people carrier worth £30,000, paid for under a scheme called Motability.

The cleric claimed to have an appointment at a London hospital for an operation to widen an artery which would cost up to £8,000 if he had to have private treatment. He said: "I have every right to come back. Britain is my home. My family are there and I have done nothing wrong."


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And you want to know why Uk citizens, are pissed at immigrants, this parasite has glorified the london july bombers as the magnificent 4, he also said the same of the new york bombers.

My country has given this man, a £30,000 pound car = $50,000 in US currency, he has recieved over £300,000 pound in state benefits = $500,000 in US currency,
last month he was banned from returning to the uk, from a overseas holiday.

Now realising his Uk government handout bonanza is over, he is trying to get back in the uk, because he has a heart operation booked for november, which will cost the national health service £ 8000 pounds to perform.

Me a UK citizen, could only dream of, £300,000 pounds in state benefits, and a £30,000 pound car, to carry my £300,000 pounds in state benefits in the boot.

I am sick of my country, pampering immigrants with 30 grand cars, and million pound houses, enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

"vincent doesn't even live in the UK."
wait, vincent28uk doesnt live in the uk??

your story about Omar Bakri Mohammed is very... unconvincing, im sure there are plenty of white people doing the same thing - but have they been deported?

and seriously, would you deprive a guy of a heart operation that he probably needs to live, just because of his skin colour?

No, by god! The citizens of all nations should be forced to live and work with people that they don't like or want! It's the way of "freedom" to be forced to accept immigrants, even illegal immigrants, even if the greater majority of citizens don't fuckin' want them or like them.

Yes, dammit ....force the citizens of nations to accept immigrants ...and if they don't like it, throw 'em in jail!

Baron Max

No, by god! The citizens of all nations should be forced to live and work with people that they don't like or want! It's the way of "freedom" to be forced to accept immigrants, even illegal immigrants, even if the greater majority of citizens don't fuckin' want them or like them.

Yes, dammit ....force the citizens of nations to accept immigrants ...and if they don't like it, throw 'em in jail!

Baron Max

ohhh baron max........what a TURN around...!!i NEVER in a zilion years...no, kalpas, would hve guessed tat through te million words crisscrossed betwen you me and others you wouold eventually crawl out of the harrowing rut you had carved for yourself over the many grim years of your world view, but ....WOW. you are a new man. well DONE!!....everyone....bringggg the champers

What the hell are you talking about, Duendy???? Can't you just say what's on your mind instead of couching it in a bunch of non-sensical words?

Baron Max

"vincent doesn't even live in the UK."
wait, vincent28uk doesnt live in the uk??

your story about Omar Bakri Mohammed is very... unconvincing, im sure there are plenty of white people doing the same thing - but have they been deported?

and seriously, would you deprive a guy of a heart operation that he probably needs to live, just because of his skin colour?

alain
This man has cancelled his heart op many times, mainly because he new he might have difficulty getting back in the UK, so now he is using this as a excuse, to get back in the UK.

And yes there are plenty of whites doing the same thing, and by the way
Omar Bakri Mohammed looks plenty white to me, the difference is people born in the UK, contribute through working, and paying taxes, and are entitled to these benefits, mr omar has never worked a day in his life, in the uk, unless you can call burning uk flags working.


This man came to the uk 20 years ago, since then we have housed him, furnished him with a 30,000 grand car, and we have given him over 500,000 grand in pocket money, we have also given free education, and healthcare to his 7 kids,

he has repaid our hospitality, by glorifying, the WTC bombers as the magnificent 19 or 21, and recently in july he called the london bombers the magnificent 4, he incites muslims in london, to attack uk citizens, he has made statements to the police, saying if he knows of any terroists in the UK, he wont tell them,

you talk about spitting in our faces, him and his followers have burned the uk flag on numerous occasions, then after a day of inciting muslims to kill us, and burning our flag, he goes off to the unemployment office to get his weekly £700 pound allowance, in his 30 grand car,

I mean really we should upgrade his car to a porsche or a ferrari, mean while our old people get there pension benefits, with a walking frame, or walking stick.

I think people need to understand the difference between nationalism and racism.

They could go hand in hand, i will not argue such a thing, but nationalism does not automatically=racism.

People percieve other people as racists simply because their opinion does not match.
If it is my opinion for example that Britain is already full and would do better just to concentrate on what we have and kick all the illegals out and cut off immigrants ability to make britain their home, this is considered racism.

But it is not like we are going on about superiority, i do not think one race is superior to another, eugenics is bullshit i do not follow that and neither does any other sane person when it comes to race.
We also do not go on about people who have been born here, if you were born in Britain YOU ARE british, don't matter what colour you are.

If you are forieghn, then you are a guest, we may make you welcome, but do not take liberties, fall in-line with our culture, if you do not like our culture or our country, what the fuck are you doing here?

Simple as that. If you hate it so much FUCK OFF!.
That especially applies to the Omar Bakri's of this world and the followers.

Here is an article from newspaper "The Indian Express" (Thursday, August 18 2005). It portrays the problems in the UK entirely.

It isn't a long winded piece so please take time to read it. Everything it says is true.



Silence, race hatred and spiel

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=76460

UK government polls, that clearly say we would rather, have immigrants from austrlia, living next to us, than blacks or muslims.

I'd love to see the look on the people's face of the UK when Australia sends them all their Aborigenes as opposed to the expected white people, lol.

- N

I'd love to see the look on the people's face of the UK when Australia sends them all their Aborigenes as opposed to the expected white people, lol.

- N
And when would this be? :rolleyes:

Here is an article from newspaper "The Indian Express" (Thursday, August 18 2005). It portrays the problems in the UK entirely.

It isn't a long winded piece so please take time to read it. Everything it says is true.



Silence, race hatred and spiel

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=76460



I think that was a well written article, it summed up the reality of the situation, and there was no spin, or politically correct crap in there, a novelty, in this day and age.

QUOTE: "However, there is a crucial difference between the Nick Griffins of the world and the likes of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. The British National Party is not conducting classes for budding terrorists, nor is it applauding the London Bombers as “the Fantastic Four”. Which leads ordinary Britons to wonder why it is Griffin who is being prosecuted by the government while the Syrian preacher could draw an allowance from the same authorities. There is no answer to that question."
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The answer is simple, the labour government is scared to death of nationalism and will do everything in it's power to stop it, they not so long ago stopped a shipment of the new issue of the BNP:The voice of freedom paper (it was in the news), they had put everything into making sure it wouldn't reach my doorstep, but they failed only on the account of freedom of speech, i still got the new issue, the government also wants all the names of the 20,000 or so members and past members which i would assume if things get rough have them all arrested under the new terrorism act.
They do not want multiculturalism to fail,globalisation is the next stop so they want everyone all to "just get along" and not argue with authority when it comes to such matters, because if you argue you too are a racist, they also do not want democracy, democracy means people having a voting voice, that is bad for them, obviously they cannot strip you of the democracy, no no no, but THEY can strip you of your options of who to vote for.

QUOTE: "However, there is a crucial difference between the Nick Griffins of the world and the likes of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. The British National Party is not conducting classes for budding terrorists, nor is it applauding the London Bombers as “the Fantastic Four”. Which leads ordinary Britons to wonder why it is Griffin who is being prosecuted by the government while the Syrian preacher could draw an allowance from the same authorities. There is no answer to that question."
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The answer is simple, the labour government is scared to death of nationalism and will do everything in it's power to stop it, they not so long ago stopped a shipment of the new issue of the BNP:The voice of freedom paper (it was in the news), they had put everything into making sure it wouldn't reach my doorstep, but they failed only on the account of freedom of speech, i still got the new issue, the government also wants all the names of the 20,000 or so members and past members which i would assume if things get rough have them all arrested under the new terrorism act.
They do not want multiculturalism to fail,globalisation is the next stop so they want everyone all to "just get along" and not argue with authority when it comes to such matters, because if you argue you too are a racist, they also do not want democracy, democracy means people having a voting voice, that is bad for them, obviously they cannot strip you of the democracy, no no no, but THEY can strip you of your options of who to vote for.

I am not a fan of the The British National Party, they are no better than islamic militants, they hate everyone who is non white, & they would like to deport all non whites out of the country.

My father a labour voter for 35 years, has recently started voting for The British National Party, he is so sickened by the immigrant issue, he has resorted to voting for a rascist part like the BNP, i find that so sad.

One of the many loony things they want to do, is issue guns to all ex servicemen, police etc, to defend the country, against what i dont know, aliens maybe.

I have always regarded the national front, or the BNP as a bunch of skinheaded nazis.
There are other ways, australias immigration policy under john howard, often comes under fire, but it is a much better system, than the uks.

Our government needs to start listening, to its people, and take notice of its own polls,
the bnp serves one good purpose, in that the more seats they win, this sends out a signal to the government, that decent people, are being forced to vote for a nazi party like the BNP, in order for our government to take note, of our anger at there immigration policy.

but it will be, a cold day in hell before i vote for the BNP
Nick Griffins, may not be glorifying the london attacks, but in my view, he is more than capable, of holding a gun, to a black mans head, and pulling the trigger, without batting a eyelid, and because he is capable of that, i think that makes him, no better than terroists, the bnp is just a version of the american KKK, i dont like violence fullstop, but i would be quite happy to give Nick Griffins, a good kicking, and i would feel damn good after it.

We fought the 2nd world war, to keep nazis out, now people like my father, are voting for them, there is a better way to do this, not the nazi way, but the Australin way.

They do not want multiculturalism to fail,globalisation is the next stop so they want everyone all to "just get along" and not argue with authority when it comes to such matters, because if you argue you too are a racist, they also do not want democracy, democracy means people having a voting voice, that is bad for them, obviously they cannot strip you of the democracy, no no no, but THEY can strip you of your options of who to vote for.

Your are correct when you say that Labour does not want multiculturalism to fail. The BNP is a political organisation who consistently oppose multiculturalism because the term " multicultural society" is a contradiction in terms, and its because of this that the BNP have been demonised by Labour and labelled Nazi's, haters, and thugs in suits.

Now none other than Trevor Phillips, head commissar of the Commision for Racial Equality has agreed that multiculturalism is not working in the UK.

Phillips now argues that multiculturalism is divisive and leads to friction in society - something we have all known for years. But multiculturalism was born out of mass third world immigration. Such has been the flood of immigrants into the UK since WW2 that assimilation has been out of the question and immigrants have formed their own societies within our society.

Phillips is shutting the door long after the horse has bolted. It is natural for people to want to live with people who are like themselves and who share their way of life - thats why we have ghettos all over the UK, especially in the cities.

Phillips and the rest of the establishment politicians are getting worried about the Frankenstein they have created in our midst, and in something of a panic they've suddenley started bleating about integration. What short memories they have.

Integration was the line politicians spun us when the first wave of immigrants landed on our shores, but when they didn't integrate we were told that they shouldn't be expected to do so, and that it infringed their rights, and that multiculturalism was the way to go - What a Mess!!!!

Perhaps we could begin by having all establishment politicians live outside their own culture in a ghetto of someone elses culture - if they want integration let them lead by example.

Your are correct when you say that Labour does not want multiculturalism to fail. The BNP is a political organisation who consistently oppose multiculturalism because the term " multicultural society" is a contradiction in terms, and its because of this that the BNP have been demonised by Labour and labelled Nazi's, haters, and thugs in suits.

Now none other than Trevor Phillips, head commissar of the Commision for Racial Equality has agreed that multiculturalism is not working in the UK.

Phillips now argues that multiculturalism is divisive and leads to friction in society - something we have all known for years. But multiculturalism was born out of mass third world immigration. Such has been the flood of immigrants into the UK since WW2 that assimilation has been out of the question and immigrants have formed their own societies within our society.

Phillips is shutting the door long after the horse has bolted. It is natural for people to want to live with people who are like themselves and who share their way of life - thats why we have ghettos all over the UK, especially in the cities.

Phillips and the rest of the establishment politicians are getting worried about the Frankenstein they have created in our midst, and in something of a panic they've suddenley started bleating about integration. What short memories they have.

Integration was the line politicians spun us when the first wave of immigrants landed on our shores, but when they didn't integrate we were told that they shouldn't be expected to do so, and that it infringed their rights, and that multiculturalism was the way to go - What a Mess!!!!

Perhaps we could begin by having all establishment politicians live outside their own culture in a ghetto of someone elses culture - if they want integration let them lead by example.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3725524.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 8 October 2004, 11:37 GMT 12:37 UK


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Country faces 'passive apartheid'



Mr Phillips said problems stemmed from misunderstanding

The head of the UK's race equality body says low numbers of black and Asian people in the countryside is a form of "passive apartheid".

Commission for Racial Equality chairman Trevor Phillips said work to stop the countryside being seen as a no-go area for ethnic minorities was crucial.

In many country areas, fewer than 1% of people are from ethnic minorities, compared with an 8% national average.

Mr Phillips was alarmed many feel they do not belong outside towns and cities.

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I find Trevor Phillips, a bit of a prat, he makes one highbrow statement after another, just to justify his high wages i guess.

I mean the countryside is a form of "passive apartheid", what a crock of shit, is there signs saying no blacks allowed in the countryside, apparently black people feel uncomfortable living in the countryside, because it is full of whites, well maybe all the white folk can pack up, and move to black brixton, thus giving our ethnic minorities a chance to move to the country.

I mean come on, just how far do we need to bow, too immigrants, and ethnics, before we are allowed to live our own lives in peace,
without the Racial Equality chairman Trevor Phillips, giving us pointers on how to bend over further, without falling down.

Most brits aren't actively racist, but most ARE againt unchecked immigration.

I'm a brit of indian ancestry, btw.

Personally, I think it's not so much the number of immigrants that is at issue, but rather the quality of immigrant. Back in the 60's/70's you had immigrants such as my Dad who were sick of chronic unemployment in their own countries, and so came over here to forge better lives - and yes, take advantage of better financial prospects. So the ones that came brought a good degree of healthy entrepreneuralism with them, or at least a strong work ethic...

However, the quality of immigrant nowadays has markedly reduced...most are far less prepared to put some work into the economy than my dad's generation, and far too quick to scream "Asylum!" and claim benefits.

Conversely, the similarity between these two generations of immigrant is that they were both unpopular, albeit for opposite reasons - my father's wave were accused of grabbing jobs that whites wanted after the oil shocks of 74/79 occurred, and the current wave is accused of spurning jobs in an era of 95% employment and actual severe labour shortages in certain sectors.

Even as a full citizen of this country, after receiving a full british education, I do not feel 'integrated' - a process I feel, in my heart, more closely resembles the drowning of my own individuality to better 'fit in'. I feel far more European in this respect...whenever I am on the continent, my differences are not viewed with suspicion or phobia, but as a refreshing change.

Oh - just to allay the inevitable cries of "Anti-british xxxx!", I am going for a few drinks tonight with a white british citizen.


Jaybee.

This thread is started with the statement " Is the UK racist & sick of immigrants". This question was asked without even a question mark, it is more of a statement.

I think it is very clear that it is people of color do have a great desire to live amoungst the people of non-color (whites). It is clear that many prefer the civilzation of (whites) to there own civilizations.

The problem is that the many non-whites who want to benifit and enjoy white civilzation want to be treated as equals or even better then whites without having to behave as equals or better.

My question to any and all is, is it possible for a person to be "sick of immigrants" without being "racist"?

My question to any and all is, is it possible for a person to be "sick of immigrants" without being "racist"?

Of course. Its about resource management, nothing to do with race.

peace

c20

my differences are not viewed with suspicion or phobia, but as a refreshing change.

Oh - just to allay the inevitable cries of "Anti-british xxxx!", I am going for a few drinks tonight with a white british citizen.
Jaybee.I sure for your "white british citizen" friend this will be such "a refreshing change" instead of them having to have a few drinks with just another one of those "white british citizen" types.

I think I speak for almost all whitey's when I say:

Your different, and your special.

Toady on Sciforums, the racist meets the sexist, who will be sicker?

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I think I speak for almost all whitey's when I say:

Your different, and your special.

Thank you. As a man who cherishes his differences, and jealously guards his indivduality.


Jaybee.

Thank you. As a man who cherishes his differences, and jealously guards his indivduality.


Jaybee.Your welcome, And I also think I speak for most whitey's when I say:

I'm different from you, but I am not special because I'm different from you, and it would be wrong (racist) to think I was special just because I am different from you.

Us whitey's have different rules you know.

I live in a rural area of Britain and therefore i only know one black person and no asians, the people i know are ofter very racist, especially towards muslims, the main reason for this being the london bombings and people like Oma Bakri Muhamed, if you are coming to briatain from abroad then you are a guest in our country, if you have been granted the right to live here by the authority then you have the right to live here, however you have no right to persuade people to blow up our country, Oma Bakri Muhamed clearly hates britain and so should F*** off out of it.

As far as the BNP are concerned .... well they rpresent the most extreme right wing of britain. However as for this statement


he is more than capable, of holding a gun, to a black mans head, and pulling the trigger

well he hasen't done it has he

I don't aprove of the BNP but peole do have a right to vote for them if they want to


the bnp serves one good purpose, in that the more seats they win, this sends out a signal to the government, that decent people, are being forced to vote for a nazi party like the BNP, in order for our government to take note, of our anger at there immigration policy.

Well lets See

BNP Seats in parliment = 0

Rather than banning Oma Bakri Muhamed from britain we should bring him back and make him serve 60000 hours of comunity service (£5 per hour and he has paid of the 300k)

in an attempt to prove your own innocence, all you did is show the racist feelings of a large amount of your countrymen

bravo

Right. I'm not racist but I don't want to live in neighbourhoods with many immigrants. Why? Because criminality is high there, and thats a fact.

If the BNP are all skinhead nazis then why are many members women and husbands with children with normal jobs and normal house?.

I mean yeah you have your thugs, you have your thugs in all political partys including Labour, it is how a party is organised and who takes charge is the most important thing.

You look at a BNP meet up some time, and you'll see children with their parents you'll see people working as a community for that time, are you going to give all these people and me a "good kicking"
are you going to give your dad a "good kicking" for having even voted for them?

Maybe we should all have a good kicking huh? let it out and show you are not a thug.

I ask you, is patriotism and love of your country wrong? Is love of your homeland and people wrong?
No,never not in this world!

Actually these days it is... immigrants and other foreigners are destroying my country and culture. And for those who resist there is a word: racist.

I am not a racist as I have many friends who are foreign, black, asian whatever.

I really wouldn't care about them settling here if they didn't cause so much trouble.

It's not about color,

it's about behaviour.

It's not about color,

it's about behaviour.

Yet in statistics behaviour is somewhat associated with color. It also seems that in areas with many "colored" people criminality amongst white people is higher then that of white people in areas that are (almost) only populated by white people.

Yet in statistics behaviour is somewhat associated with color. It also seems that in areas with many "colored" people criminality amongst white people is higher then that of white people in areas that are (almost) only populated by white people.You are correct, color is a excellent way to perdict crime in a area.

And spelling predict p-e-r-d-i-c-t is an excellent way of predicting that you're a moron.

You are correct, color is a excellent way to (predict) crime in a area. (corrected spelling 'cause it bothers Spider ...even tho' he ain't got no answer for the actual comment!)

Yeah, and ya' know what else ....it's consistently true all over the fuckin' world! In any city where there are whites (non-colored), the areas of town/city with the highest crime rates are the black areas ...not the yellow, not the brown, not the red, ...not the green, either!

Baron Max

And spelling predict p-e-r-d-i-c-t is an excellent way of predicting that you're a moron.

Move out of that glass house, bucko...

Toady on Sciforums, the racist meets the sexist, who will be sicker?


Jaybee.

No, I meant J.B is a toady-

toad·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (td)
n. pl. toad·ies
A person who flatters or defers to others for self-serving reasons; a sycophant.

Well lets See

BNP Seats in parliment = 0

Rather than banning Oma Bakri Muhamed from britain we should bring him back and make him serve 60000 hours of comunity service (£5 per hour and he has paid of the 300k)
HOW DARE YOU REBUT ME SIR, THE INDIGNITY, THE OUTRAGE, THE POMPOSITY.

I REBUT YOU SIR, TAKE THAT YOU BOUNDER,

The BNP has 21 council seats,you made a reference to parliament, i did not.
The BNP had 47,000 votes in 2001 & 197,000 in 2005.


The real immigration test was for the European Parliament, the BNP got a massive 800,000 votes last year, which sent a clear signal, on want we think of europe, and immigration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE=Pi-Sudoku
"Rather than banning Oma Bakri Muhamed from britain we should bring him back and make him serve 60000 hours of comunity service (£5 per hour and he has paid of the 300k)"

the man has been has been claiming incapacity benefit, and since he came to the UK, and is only capable of burning UK flags, if he was allowed, back into the UK, the 1st thing we have to do, is pay for a £8 grand heart OP for him, then no doubt he would sue us, for denying him re entry, and risking his health, and no doubt, he would win millions.

If the BNP are all skinhead nazis then why are many members women and husbands with children with normal jobs and normal house?.

Some football hooligans, also hold down directors jobs too.
The reason alot of people vote for the BNP, is because it is a protest vote, against the government & europe, my own father is BNP voter, he is not a skinhead,
the reason i am against the BNP, is because our families, fought in the 2nd world war to defeat nazis, to now support a party which is basically a nazi one, with ribbons to conceal it, they too want to create a master race, he is called the white man!!!!

I am white, and i am nobodies master, i might be dead against immigrants in th UK, but i will not vote for this master white race party.

GodlessEvil
Are you aware the BNP wants to issue guns, to policeman, and also ex forces, and ex policeman, so we are talking about millions of guns issued out,
do you feel comfortable with over a million guns on the street, i do not, i dont want the UK, to become like gun toting America, where every man, woman & mugger & rapist & primate, has the right to bear arms against eachother.

The one thing i like about the uk mugger, is you can run from him, in America you do not have that option, unless you are immune to bullets.

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Hello vinne, let me ask you something important, are you an immigrant in another country? and do you live on welfare?

Second question is important since you are always here at sciforums, like 24/7. Also my third question, are you infactuated with Islam? No matter what the post is or topic is you have to rant and drool over Islam or immigrant but then u claim that are u not racist or bias. So lets see if u can come up with some answer. :D

Hello vinne, let me ask you something important, are you an immigrant in another country? and do you live on welfare?

Second question is important since you are always here at sciforums, like 24/7. Also my third question, are you infactuated with Islam? No matter what the post is or topic is you have to rant and drool over Islam or immigrant but then u claim that are u not racist or bias. So lets see if u can come up with some answer. :D
I live in thailand, as a tourist, for 7 years, there is no welfare system in thailand, you either work or starve, i am not a burden on thai society, i bring money into the economy, i come from a 1st world country into a 3rd world country.

As for my rants about islam, religon is sacred to me, and when i see people killing in the name of religon, that makes me angry, religon is about peace not murder, and like i have said before god does not need a hitman on earth, these militants shout god is great when they blow themselves up.

As for immigrants i do not see why either UK or American citizens, should have to feed, educate,house, and provide health care cover, and give money to people who come from corrupt 3rd world countries, if they are not happy with there country, why dont they overthrow it, like america did to the brits, the UK is not responsible for picking up the tab, for people from failed countries.

we are also not a haven for religous loonies to burn our flags, and blow us up, and at the same time take our welfare cheques, that is so insulting.

My question to any and all is, is it possible for a person to be "sick of immigrants" without being "racist"?

We'll assume here that the immigrants in question are not the same colour as the majority of the receiving population. Theoretically, yes. For practical purposes, no.

If you've developed a clinical phobia (you wrote 'sick') about immigrants, then outbursts of racism would be an inevitable and natural symptom of that phobia.

But I'm guessing that there's no phobia in the strict sense, but rather you've had an inordinate amount of bad experiences with immigrants, as have most of those here who have taken the time out of their lives to post their dissatisfaction.

spidergoat No, I meant J.B is a toady-

Liar.

If you're going to lie to me, at least make a good job of it; you insult my intelligence by thinking I'll believe that mispelling was a contextually ill-fitting insult, and your own in such a poor attempt at deception.


Jaybee.

I live in thailand, as a tourist, for 7 years, there is no welfare system in thailand, you either work or starve, i am not a burden on thai society, i bring money into the economy, i come from a 1st world country into a 3rd world country.

me::: a horrible vile place. the way they they treat people with heroin habits, and other drug habits is utterly fascistic barbarism.....and this barbrity is refelected in their work or starve policy.
wouldnt step in the fukin place!

As for my rants about islam, religon is sacred to me, and when i see people killing in the name of religon, that makes me angry, religon is about peace not murder, and like i have said before god does not need a hitman on earth, these militants shout god is great when they blow themselves up.

me:::yet you see nothing wrong in people having to work or starve to death. isn't that murder by State?

As for immigrants i do not see why either UK or American citizens, should have to feed, educate,house, and provide health care cover, and give money to people who come from corrupt 3rd world countries,

me:::hah..that figures if you are choosing to be a tourist living in anothe fascist country that does just that. like finds like, as they say

if they are not happy with there country, why dont they overthrow it, like america did to the brits, the UK is not responsible for picking up the tab, for people from failed countries.

me:::oh god, this from the same dude for whome religion isss sacred to him, who loves peace bla bla. whay a hypocrite yo are...seriously. and what a simpl min you have, ad what lck of any real empathy or imagination.....could a Jeish family in nazi Germany suddenly just 'take over' for fuks sake? have you no savvy what is must be like to suddenly find yourself in avery dangerous place, andte risin fear of recognition, and isolation, and worry for your loved ones and trhe urge to get thehell out. and dont you know America's role in te troubles in these countries besotted wit conflict and war, and UKs, all who sell the tyrants there weapons and devize the very conflicts covertly.cause you dont cause you are simple. you jus like to target people who are absolutely in need of support. and ten you have the nerve to preach to us about peace and love. hypocrite!

we are also not a haven for religous loonies to burn our flags, and blow us up, and at the same time take our welfare cheques, that is so insulting.

you are so insulting

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me::: a horrible vile place. the way they they treat people with heroin habits, and other drug habits is utterly fascistic barbarism.....and this barbrity is refelected in their work or starve policy.
wouldnt step in the fukin place!"

And just how should you treat drug takers, and dealers, the death sentence, is the best thing for them, if the real world is not good enough for them, then the quicker they leave it, the better for all of us, no more drug related crimes.

Are you aware thailand borders the golden triangle, burma is one of the biggest suppliers of drugs in the world, thailand has to stop it crossing its borders, by imposing the death sentence on drug traffickers, and most asian countries singapore, indonesia, also apply the death penalty too.


Duendy
"me:::yet you see nothing wrong in people having to work or starve to death. isn't that murder by State?"

Thailand is a 3rd world country, they can not afford to give welfare benefits out, if you had any education on 3rd world countries you would know that. world povery is addressed by the united nations, not me, and its not murder by state, its murder by poverty.

Duendy
"me:::hah..that figures if you are choosing to be a tourist living in anothe fascist country that does just that. like finds like, as they say"

Thailand is a democracy, once again your lack of education is showing.

Duendy try to stick to reality, fantasy is not your best subject.

Here in the UK we have been the most tolerant of races for many many years but things are beginning to simmer, soon to boil in my opinion. I was asked a question recently and it was a good one:

What is the difference between racially biased and racist?

1. Racially biased is nothing at all to do with racism. Its a preference for your own society, beliefs and conditions.

2. Is a hatred of anything or anyone that is not your own. The complete intolerance of anything none "you".

In the UK, the first is the main preference, with undertones of the second in very small regions. The second is prevalent all over the world, especially regarding religion, the main perpetrators are Islamists, who preach and practice hatred throughout the world. Yes, so do others, but not on anything like the ignorant scale of the Islamist fundamentalists.

Here in the UK, Indian people and Chinese have lived here for generations in total peace and socially integrated. But, then along came the political correctness brigades who then started to change things in favour of the so called minority, thereby changing the status quo away from the natural born anglo saxon British person. We were in balance, now it has swung massively away from the Brit in favour of the unwanted, economic refugee and others who floods in here, illegally or otherwise, to be welcomed with open arms and chequebooks by these people. The biggest racists in the UK by the way, are not white.

True story: a lorry driver I know, well off, was looking at a £300 sheepskin coat and, although he could afford it, decided against as it would undoubtedly sit in his wardrobe most of the year, due to our mild winters.

He put it back on the rack only for an arm to reach past him, take THREE off the rack and present them to the cashier whilst talking to his other two companions in Albanian. He paid for these THREE coats with a Dept of Social Services Voucher, and the three of the walked out with £900 of taxpayers money on their backs. These coats are now probably being worn on the slopes of Mount Kajagoogoo or somewhere near Tirana.

Bitter, damn right I am, but I fall into category one above, not two.

Well there you have it, we can all stop being politically correct, although i never was, and look at the bare facts, of UK government polls, that clearly say we would rather, have immigrants from austrlia, living next to us, than blacks or muslims.I wont challenge your 'facts'. I will reflect sadly that you seem to be proud of them.

thereby changing the status quo away from the natural born anglo saxon British person.."Screw you Jimmy. Anglo fucking saxons! You can take your fucking anglo saxon immigrants and your fucking Normans and your fucking jutes. Not one of them is fucking British. So take your white anglo saxon trash with your Norman overlords out of my fucking country you immigrant asshole."

Do you see the fallacy in your thinking yet? I hope so. I have just about exhausted a month's supply of profanities.

Well here is me thinking your someone of a modicum of intelligence, I was unfortunately misled. That post has been reported. you should actually READ a post before making such banalities. I am not "proud" as you say, but looking at it through realistic eyes not red coloured lenses or any such other misbegotten ideals. A question was asked to which I provided only one answer. Just because you see it as something that isn't there is not my problem, its yours.

you should actually READ a post before making such banalities. I am not "proud" as you say, .Good advice Red Devil. Now be good enough to tell me where in my post relating to yours I accuse you of being proud. Where? No? Correct. I do not accuse you of that.

Rather I make the point, using colourful language, and adopting the persona of a native Glaswegian with a modicum of education, that the inhabitants of the UK are a bastard people with many 'races' in their make up and that 'anglo-saxons' are not the only, nor necessarily the most important element. The original British are now pushed to the remoter parts of these islands, while waves of others are to be found jumbled and mixed all around. What happened in the past will happen in the future.

Did you really fail to see the quotation marks around the paragraph that has so aroused your ire.

I had thought you might be capable of debating the matter rather than running to report to teacher that someone used a bad word.

I wont challenge your 'facts'. I will reflect sadly that you seem to be proud of them.

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Good advice Red Devil. Now be good enough to tell me where in my post relating to yours I accuse you of being proud. Where? No? Correct. I do not accuse you of that.

The use of the world anglo saxon is probably slightly off, as I am Gaelic in origin myself (apparently, on my mums side) but still am entitled to an opinion. Personal attacks are forbidden under the rules as well you know. Let it be, its history. This comes at a juncture where, in another forum, I am attempting to get some people to talk in a civilised manner withjout recourse to name calling, it overspilled but is still relevant. I bear you, personally, no ill will.

The term Anglo saxon is in itself two tribal joinings. The Angles (Angleland) and the (Saxons).

I live in thailand, as a tourist, for 7 years, there is no welfare system in thailand, you either work or starve, i am not a burden on thai society, i bring money into the economy, i come from a 1st world country into a 3rd world country.

As for my rants about islam, religon is sacred to me, and when i see people killing in the name of religon, that makes me angry, religon is about peace not murder, and like i have said before god does not need a hitman on earth, these militants shout god is great when they blow themselves up.

As for immigrants i do not see why either UK or American citizens, should have to feed, educate,house, and provide health care cover, and give money to people who come from corrupt 3rd world countries, if they are not happy with there country, why dont they overthrow it, like america did to the brits, the UK is not responsible for picking up the tab, for people from failed countries.

we are also not a haven for religous loonies to burn our flags, and blow us up, and at the same time take our welfare cheques, that is so insulting.

Fair enough. But your statements contradict your each and every post. Sad, isn't it? There are plenty of immigrants in USA and I am sure in Enland who benefit that country in many ways. We in USA have no problems with other minorities except illegal mexican. MUSLIMS in USA they all work here and contribute their taxes like any other citizen and we don't have Birtish Ghettos like u do, it is because we are a better country with better understanding of minorities even though we know that illegal mexican consumes most of our tax dollars but we still don't treat them like birtish do. So your ranting about americans dont want immigrants or don't want to put up with them is base less. thats only british loonies who hate immigrants and treat them like trash and kill them for fun, we are better people and we are a better country. Best among all the countries.

. We in USA have no problems with other minorities except illegal mexican. MUSLIMS in USA they all work here and contribute their taxes like any other citizen and we don't have Birtish Ghettos like u do, it is because we are a better country with better understanding of minorities even though we know that illegal mexican consumes most of our tax dollars but we still don't treat them like birtish do. So your ranting about americans dont want immigrants or don't want to put up with them is base less. thats only british loonies who hate immigrants and treat them like trash and kill them for fun, we are better people and we are a better country. Best among all the countries.
Americas record on treating ethnics, is one of the worst in the world, you still had segregation, between blacks and whites, in the sixties,
and in 1954 your Supreme Court ruled that, black and white children should be educated together.

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Oj simpson walks free,

But in "Madam Foreman," black jurors denied race played a role in their decision and contended their ultimate - and speedy verdict - was shaped mostly by their lack of confidence in the police department and the evidence it handled.

The jurors said they saw Darden as a token black placed at the counsel table by the district attorney's office.

"I remember thinking he was there as a token because the jury was predominantly black," Cooley wrote. "I thought the prosecution felt they needed this particular balance. To me, this was the first 'race card,' as it has come to be called, and it was played by the prosecution. It didn't fool me, and it didn't fool a lot of other people on the jury either."
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Good old juice, or oj simpson, walked free from a murder charge, entirely because of differences between blacks & whites, the mainly black jury, the entire world laughed at this, a cold blooded murderer released, because your black jury, saw it as a fight between blacks, and whites.

Your black jury goes on about the prosecution having, a token black at there table. and they said they were playing the race card.

WHY ON EARTH ARE BLACK JURORS, LOOKING AT PROSECUTION LAWYERS ALONG ETHNIC LINES, IF THE PROSECUTION HAD NO BLACKS IN IT, THEY WOULD BE RACIST, THE FACT THAT THEY HAD ONE, MADE IT A TOKEN BLACK, WHAT PLANET ARE THEY LIVING ON, A MAN KILLS 2 PEOPLE IN COLD BLOOD, IS CHASED ALONG FREEWAYS, BY A ARMY OF POLICE, AND MEDIA HELICOPTERS, A BLIND MAN COULD SEE, HE IS GUILTY AS HELL.

AMERICA RACIAL HARMONY, WHERE MURDERERS WALK FREE BECAUSE OF THERE COLOUR, IN BRITAIN WE DO NOT LET MURDERERS FREE, BECAUSE OF THERE SKIN COLOUR, WE LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, NOT THE SKIN COLOUR!!!!!!!

thats only british loonies who hate immigrants and treat them like trash and kill them for fun, we are better people and we are a better country. Best among all the countries.

Where do you get that idea from? You have been watching too many olde worlde films about Elizabeth 1. As for killing for fun, hows about the KKK? Treat like trash? Hows about the "Native American"? I have nothing against the USA at all but get your own house in order before making baseless accusations against other nations, true or otherwise, in this case, otherwise.

And spelling predict p-e-r-d-i-c-t is an excellent way of predicting that you're a moron.

Your intelligence apparently doesn't reach far enough for you to consider that it may be a typo.

Some football hooligans, also hold down directors jobs too.
The reason alot of people vote for the BNP, is because it is a protest vote, against the government & europe, my own father is BNP voter, he is not a skinhead,
the reason i am against the BNP, is because our families, fought in the 2nd world war to defeat nazis, to now support a party which is basically a nazi one, with ribbons to conceal it, they too want to create a master race, he is called the white man!!!!

I am white, and i am nobodies master, i might be dead against immigrants in th UK, but i will not vote for this master white race party.

GodlessEvil
Are you aware the BNP wants to issue guns, to policeman, and also ex forces, and ex policeman, so we are talking about millions of guns issued out,
do you feel comfortable with over a million guns on the street, i do not, i dont want the UK, to become like gun toting America, where every man, woman & mugger & rapist & primate, has the right to bear arms against eachother.

The one thing i like about the uk mugger, is you can run from him, in America you do not have that option, unless you are immune to bullets.

Issue guns on the street and to police WHOA!! well so what? i think our police should all be armed, what the fuck is the point chasing some criminal for hours when all you have to do is say "stop or i'll shoot"
most people will stop, if you carry on running and get shot, ah well one less idiot to worry about and pay taxes for when he is in prison.
Don't know about guns on the street, but hey i would rather have a gun in my pocket than a fist if some cunt comes up to me in the street demanding money or my life.

There is a big difference between brown shirt SA marching down streets beating people up and gaining political influence by bullying all the other parties than BNP,
BNP do not have a ARMY plan, or else you would see it in force now.

In fact it is the other way round, it is Labour who is bullying everyone else, if anyone is going to be the next Nazi party it would be Labour, i would put my money on it, but in a sort of reverse way, where people are supposed welcome immigrants and multicultural, or else you are an enemy of the system, so it is kinda reversed but not in a good way.

And anyway we have a monarchy, while we have a monarchy no dictators can exist, or no true dictators,unless they approve, always a possibility.
Hitler was a chancellor first, he gained power in a very clever way, it was basically passed to him, he was able to do things you couldn't do today, it was a fluke really back then but you'd need more than lottery win type luck today, different country different time.

And if you wanna start a world war you won't last long, er maybe all of 2 minutes LOL.

But still you have to maintan democracy, the whole point in having democracy is about people having a choice who to vote for and being able to do it without being intimidated and degraded, and to be able to voice an opinion without losing their job or getting arrested.

If you do not want democracy then you may aswell fucking have your Hitler and Nazi party, cos thats what you'll get eventually with or without the BNP.

I hope you realise that in the UK all the bad guys can get guns, but the good guys can't, and even if you could it is illegal to defend yourself.

Yeah thanks alot, so if i was to ever get shot, i'll do it running away like a chicken and get a bullet in the back, that is no way for a man to go down, theres no honour.

Red Devil,
I really must insist that you read my posts. I accused vincent of being proud of his views not you. You might feel that merits an apology on your part.
I have returned the favour and reported your earlier post largely for blatant stupidity in failing to recognise the function of quotation marks. If you are of partial Gaelic origin you should be aware that the phrase "See you Jimmy" is used by Glaswegians of suspect intellect immediately before planting a Glasgow kiss (or head butt). The same Glaswegian would be genetically unable to express the sentiments I provided him with, without using repeated expletives. Shock tactics to draw attention to the underlying racist tone of that segment of your post were, I feel warranted. That the racist tone was unconscious and unintentional was exactly the point that I was making. There is a deep well of anger and resentment in the British parts of these islands over the johnny come lately anglo-saxons.
That said I am perfectly ready to put this behind us. I shall of course stalk you mercilessly through the forums for the next month to make sure you behave yourself. ;)

it is the bleedin obvious that If you have a gun and pose your temper then more than likely you are gonna use it, ad ten tat doesn't ONLY utterly destroy a life either through injury or death, but te person's family, friends, te whole community is tramatized!...it is no small thing. dont believe all te glamourized crap about it on films, TV etc. it is as ugly as sin

as for cops having tem. well, havn't you noticed it is getting more and more like a friggin war zone round these here parts

I hope you realise that in the UK all the bad guys can get guns, but the good guys can't, and even if you could it is illegal to defend yourself.

Yeah thanks alot, so if i was to ever get shot, i'll do it running away like a chicken and get a bullet in the back, that is no way for a man to go down, theres no honour.


I lived in the UK for 30 years, as with all Uk citizens we know criminals, either indirectly or directly, i have never seen or known, a criminal with a gun, guns usually replica ones, are used in robberies, only hardened criminals, and drug dealers have access to guns.

I like guns, and i like shooting with them at the range, but guns are dangerous, and no one can know the state of mind, of the person carrying one, all the gun rampages in the Uk, like hungerford, and the Dunblane school attack, could have been avoided, if we controlled the way we issue guns, to farmers and gun club members.

Everbody has a breaking point, it is better he reaches that point with a knife, or a baseball bat, than with a gun.

If we had a gun problem in the UK, the police would be issued with guns, on a permanent basis, but they are not, and there is no gun problem in the Uk,
and if the police are not armed, why on earth do you need to be Godless Evil.

Godless Evil, if you feel more comfortable, with a 44 magnum, under your pillow, i suggest you move to America, i am sure you can even buy a UZI too.
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Report: Makers Taking Orders

By Dan Eggen
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Wednesday, September 8, 2004; Page A03


Gun manufacturers are gearing up for the scheduled expiration next week of a 10-year-old federal ban on assault weapons and are taking orders for semiautomatic rifles and high-capacity ammunition magazines that may soon become legal again, according to a report released yesterday.

The report by the Consumer Federation of America, which favors greater regulation of the gun industry, concludes that "assault weapons will be more lethal and less expensive" without the ban and argues that police "may be forced to adopt a more militaristic approach" as greater numbers of firearms flood the market.
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Godless Evil when you start down the gun road, there is no stopping.

Assault Rifles, for muggers, or loonies killing kids at school with Assault Rifles, do you want to follow America, down its gun path, 10 years ago a british tourist knocked on a Americans door, late at night,because his car broke down, the owner shot him for it.

Guns in the hands, of loonies leads to death.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/edmonds/edmonds24.html



America Will Be Safer If You Give Grandma an Uzi

by Brad Edmonds

Look at the Facts

Giving fully automatic weapons to old ladies sounds extreme, and I’m not claiming that people too weak to care for themselves should brandish sidearms; neither should drunks or children. But arming decent people, including your Aunt Bea, and arming them with – yes – machine guns if they want, is the way to make America safer for all of us. Let me explain:

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Godless Evil just think about it, a uzi for your grand ma, America is beckoning you, you have the right to bear arms, uzis, tanks, RPGS, flame throwers, go Godless Evil LOL.

I wont challenge your 'facts'. I will reflect sadly that you seem to be proud of them.
No you are deeply wrong, it saddens me to think that support for the BNP is growing in the Uk, it is all because the people are reacting quicker about this immigration, and terroism problem than the government is, it should be the other way around, immigration is directly linked with terroism.

Since you have immigrated to Thailand can we therefore conclude that you are in part responsible for the waves of terrorism sweeping that country?

Since you have immigrated to Thailand can we therefore conclude that you are in part responsible for the waves of terrorism sweeping that country?

It is very possible. But we really hope that he is not involve in any of that but one cannot rule this out.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/edmonds/edmonds24.html



America Will Be Safer If You Give Grandma an Uzi

by Brad Edmonds

Look at the Facts

Giving fully automatic weapons to old ladies sounds extreme, and I’m not claiming that people too weak to care for themselves should brandish sidearms; neither should drunks or children. But arming decent people, including your Aunt Bea, and arming them with – yes – machine guns if they want, is the way to make America safer for all of us. Let me explain:

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Godless Evil just think about it, a uzi for your grand ma, America is beckoning you, you have the right to bear arms, uzis, tanks, RPGS, flame throwers, go Godless Evil LOL.

It has nothing to do with immigration. We treat immigrants better than england. We don't throw them out of hospitals like england if they are immigrants.

Americas record on treating ethnics, is one of the worst in the world, you still had segregation, between blacks and whites, in the sixties,
and in 1954 your Supreme Court ruled that, black and white children should be educated together.

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Oj simpson walks free,

But in "Madam Foreman," black jurors denied race played a role in their decision and contended their ultimate - and speedy verdict - was shaped mostly by their lack of confidence in the police department and the evidence it handled.

The jurors said they saw Darden as a token black placed at the counsel table by the district attorney's office.

"I remember thinking he was there as a token because the jury was predominantly black," Cooley wrote. "I thought the prosecution felt they needed this particular balance. To me, this was the first 'race card,' as it has come to be called, and it was played by the prosecution. It didn't fool me, and it didn't fool a lot of other people on the jury either."
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Good old juice, or oj simpson, walked free from a murder charge, entirely because of differences between blacks & whites, the mainly black jury, the entire world laughed at this, a cold blooded murderer released, because your black jury, saw it as a fight between blacks, and whites.

Your black jury goes on about the prosecution having, a token black at there table. and they said they were playing the race card.

WHY ON EARTH ARE BLACK JURORS, LOOKING AT PROSECUTION LAWYERS ALONG ETHNIC LINES, IF THE PROSECUTION HAD NO BLACKS IN IT, THEY WOULD BE RACIST, THE FACT THAT THEY HAD ONE, MADE IT A TOKEN BLACK, WHAT PLANET ARE THEY LIVING ON, A MAN KILLS 2 PEOPLE IN COLD BLOOD, IS CHASED ALONG FREEWAYS, BY A ARMY OF POLICE, AND MEDIA HELICOPTERS, A BLIND MAN COULD SEE, HE IS GUILTY AS HELL.

AMERICA RACIAL HARMONY, WHERE MURDERERS WALK FREE BECAUSE OF THERE COLOUR, IN BRITAIN WE DO NOT LET MURDERERS FREE, BECAUSE OF THERE SKIN COLOUR, WE LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, NOT THE SKIN COLOUR!!!!!!!

This has nothing to do with immigrants. In America many immigrants even if they are illegal live better than others. It is because they work hard and earn their living. Your problem is not with immigrants it is with lazy immigrants. I am sure england got millions of immgrants and they are not consuming the country's resources but vast majority is contributing to country's tax money just like any other citizen. ARE YOU TELLING ME that all the pakistani/indian/south asian immigrants ( since u are only concern with muslims and brown immgiratns rest of the poor and criminal eastern europeans dont matter to you) are just taking welfare??? if you are then your two percent cerdibility just went down to -2%. The immigrants are contributing more than they are consuming in any country and like i said In America we dont' have that problem like England since we are Better people over all.

Since you have immigrated to Thailand can we therefore conclude that you are in part responsible for the waves of terrorism sweeping that country?
I am catholic, not muslim, the terroism in thailand is related to muslims, not catholics, as well you know, catholics dont chop peoples heads off as they drink tea in a tea shop, the muslim militants in thailand do.

I have nothing against immigration, if it is like australias current immigration policy now, where they are encouraging doctors etc, to there shores, i just dont want dummies, and dead beats coming to the uk.

i just dont want dummies, and dead beats coming to the uk.
You mean like people that can't grasp the not-so-subtle differences between their, there and they're? :p

It has nothing to do with immigration. We treat immigrants better than england. We don't throw them out of hospitals like england if they are immigrants.
HOSPITALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you for real, we have free medical care in the uk.

In america if you dont have medical care you are screwed, or its off to the mother of mary charity hospital, medical bills bankrupt christopher reeves, a millionaire actor, who has since died, but at one stage he was bankrupt, friends like robin williams who give him a million dollars, kept him out of the shit.

But if you dont have friends, like robin williams, and you have a serious illness in america you are screwed.

and we dont throw immigrants out of hospitals, indians often travel from india, just so they can have a free operation in the UK, now thats taking the PISS.

This has nothing to do with immigrants. In America many immigrants even if they are illegal live better than others. It is because they work hard and earn their living. Your problem is not with immigrants it is with lazy immigrants. I am sure england got millions of immgrants and they are not consuming the country's resources but vast majority is contributing to country's tax money just like any other citizen. ARE YOU TELLING ME that all the pakistani/indian/south asian immigrants ( since u are only concern with muslims and brown immgiratns rest of the poor and criminal eastern europeans dont matter to you) are just taking welfare??? if you are then your two percent cerdibility just went down to -2%. The immigrants are contributing more than they are consuming in any country and like i said In America we dont' have that problem like England since we are Better people over all.
If you bother to read, peoples posts, you would see that i also included, 3rd world europe in the immigrant issue, the colour is not a issue, i prefer yellow people, even though i am white, so i am not a racist.

i prefer yellow people, even though i am white, so i am not a racist.
I can't begin to grasp the absurdity of that moronic statement.
You are judging people by race in the very statement trying to assert that you are not racist!!

Perhaps one raven when vincent says he prefers yellow people he is refering to their moral fortitude rather than their hypothetical skin colouration. In short, he prefers cowards since they are less likely to disagree with his illogical ramblings. Just a theory. I'm sure vincent will be along in a moment to debunk it.

I can't begin to grasp the absurdity of that moronic statement.
You are judging people by race in the very statement trying to assert that you are not racist!!
Moronic statement?
Preferring a skin colour, to your own is not racist, if i prefer a yellow daffodill, to a white rose, does that make me a racist too, think before you pounce, you my friend are part of the politically correct brigade, the very reason, this world is so *ucked up.

Not giving someone a job, because of there race, is being racist, a human beings preference, for living amonst people with a certain skin colour, can be because of many things, sexual preference, feeling safer, finding them more interesting, and stimulating.

My own reasons are because, i find chinese, japs, thais, singaporeans, more interesting than white people, i find it harder to read them mentally, whites you can read them like a book, after living with them all my life, that is not hard to do, but the oriental mind, is very hard to read, and is very interesting to me.


And one raven
I can't begin to grasp the absurdity of your moronic statement, is your life is so short, of cheap thrills, that you need to pounce on what you think is another posters wrongful wording,

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one raven, as seen above you are nitpicking again, you seem to be unable to debate, so your tatics, are to nitpick at others,

can't you grasp the not-so-subtle differences between, debate, and nitpicking.

Perhaps one raven when vincent says he prefers yellow people he is refering to their moral fortitude rather than their hypothetical skin colouration. In short, he prefers cowards since they are less likely to disagree with his illogical ramblings. Just a theory. I'm sure vincent will be along in a moment to debunk it.
No i like buddhists, because i find there religon, is peaceful, after living in thailand for 7 years now, i have yet to see a crime, or a fight between people, in london this was a sight, i saw every other day, to the extent, you are bored with it, the novelty effect wears off, and you give it a 2 second glance, and move on.

I have yet to hear a asian swear in public, or kids drinking beer on public transport, the differences between white culture, and oriental culture, are very great, my only mistake is not coming hear 15 years ago.

People just for one moment imagine what would happen if all the immigrants left Britain. Hello is there anyone there?

Health Service: Collapse
Public Transport: Collapse
Service Industries (travel, restaurants, hotels, etc)
Retail Industries: Collapse
Farming: Collapse
Childcare Services: Collapse
Education: Collapse
Social Welfare System: Collapse
Private enterprise and employment: Collapse

I could go on but just can't be bothered. The fact is without immigration Britain would be in a state of economic collapse. Why? Because the fertility and birth rate has fallen so much (ditto the rest of Europe) that the economy is unsustainable. Without a MASSIVE AND CONTINUING influx of immigrant labour present standards of living will not be sustained beyond the next few decades.

(Sources: The Guardian, The Independent, The Times, The BBC, UK National statistics and Census, Time Magazine and Newsweek)

Sobering ain't it?

So whitey better put up, shut up or fuck up if he don't want any of those brown faces moving in next door!

Sniffy, personally I'm all for the inevitable profound, intimate, and eventually total meeting/melding of human cultures. But I don't understand your contention that a declining population brings economic collapse. Could you explain? It seems to me that a sharply declining population would instead leave more wealth to go around, and would force business to value workers more highly. If you would prefer to discuss this in another thread, point the way and let's go.

On sources: Just listing them as you have, with no link whatever to any specific article does nothing to support your argument. Here's a piece that supports what I'm offering for your consideration from the Population Coalition (http://www.popco.org/press/articles/2003-4-browne.html).

Red Devil,
I really must insist that you read my posts. I accused vincent of being proud of his views not you.

I naturally assumed, as your post followed mine, that you refered to me. When cross referencing someone's post you should make reference to it, as I did here. Anyway, its not hardly worth WW3 is it? In my defence, you did not come forward quickly enough with that explanation did you?

Can I just say this in general, to one, to all.

What you necessarily write is not necessarily what is read. It is very very easy to type something completely inoccuous only for another to take it as a gross personal insult. I can be quite sarcastic in my replies sometimes, admittedly, and we all make typo's. Typo's mean we miss a key not are illiterate idiots. Patience maybe should be the key, read, digest, assimilate and reply.

People just for one moment imagine what would happen if all the immigrants left Britain. Hello is there anyone there?

Health Service: Collapse
Public Transport: Collapse
Service Industries (travel, restaurants, hotels, etc)
Retail Industries: Collapse
Farming: Collapse
Childcare Services: Collapse
Education: Collapse
Social Welfare System: Collapse
Private enterprise and employment: Collapse

I could go on but just can't be bothered. The fact is without immigration Britain would be in a state of economic collapse. !


Immigrants, make up nearly all of the UK unemployment rate, all these people are claiming state benefits, and putting a strain on the health service, and public transport, why on earth do you think, that by them leaving, the UK will collapse, if they are not tax payers, and they take money from tax payers, in the form of benefits, they do not benefit the UK, instead they are collapsing, puiblic services in the UK, by there shear numbers.

Immigrants, that do have jobs in the UK, are usually working on the black market, so they get welfare benefits, and a black market wage packet.

Sorry hypewaders I'm not anal enough to write down all sources of information to topics I happen to read about that may be relevant to a particular forum topic. Plus I just don't have the time. All the sources quoted have carried articles recently or in the recent past about this topic and the census shows declining 'economically active' population. This is not a minority view either but one that governments are spending a lot of policy time on.

If our system continues its current path it will be unsustainable because we are not producing enough children to enter the workforce to sustain it and particularly the ageing babyboomers. That's not to say it WILL continue as it is just that it can't!

Red Devil, again I urge you to read my posts. I was guilty of double posting. Something I rarely do. The first post, in which I berated vincent, clearly showed I was addressing a quote of his. The second post, in which I tackled you, clearly contained a quote of yours. Both quotes were clearly identified as to source.
I don't see why you would assume that my post referred to you just because it followed yours, when I opened my post with a clear quote from a third party.
I did not come forward with an explanation, but urged you to carefully read my posts. Had you done so you would have realised your error.
I am dragging this out Red Devil because you seem to be trying to slap blame on your misreading and misinterpretation onto me. If you wish to critique me for using foul language I have already admitted to that. You may not find my justification for using it rhetorically within quotes to be a good one: I could argue either side on that. But please don't try pinning your misreading on me.
Now before the Germans come through the Ardennes one more time shall we leave this thread to others, or at least to the topic.
Peace.

vincent
No they don't!

Immigrants, make up nearly all of the UK unemployment rate, all these people are claiming state benefits, and putting a strain on the health service, and public transport, why on earth do you think, that by them leaving, the UK will collapse, if they are not tax payers, and they take money from tax payers, in the form of benefits, they do not benefit the UK, instead they are collapsing, puiblic services in the UK, by there shear numbers.

Immigrants, that do have jobs in the UK, are usually working on the black market, so they get welfare benefits, and a black market wage packet.

Thank you, I forgot to mention the burden on the State. We actually spend more on "welfare" cases than is recovered from the genuine working person, in taxes.

I have an Albanian friend, he came over here, working his way across Europe, over 6 years ago. He came to Birmingham, got a job, still in the same job now, and has a comfortable life. However, when he came over he was told in no uncertain terms, work or go home, no passport for you because you need to reside here for 5 or more years. Go and earn lad.

He is furious at the treatment being handed out to his fellow countrymen. He sees that everything he believed in has been destroyed by these people, these scroungers, these economic refugees. These people who are flooding in here, not for a better life, but for free handouts. Something for nothing, the land of milk and honey.

State officials on the European mainland shepherd these people here, forming large camps outside Calais awaiting an opportunity to jump a freight train, a ship, hide in a lorry, to get across that 21 miles of water that stopped Hitler. These same officilas turn blind eyes to law and just want them off their land, into ours.

Enough is enough. Its wrong and I want them all out, and now.

(thru a tanoy): "hello helloeeeee...atention pleeease, Red Devil he say he want--all known active or unactive immigrants to IMMEDIATELY vacate whereever they may beee residing an, pack whatever clothes and belongings you have got, and make your way to the nearest trains, ferries,and airport with the exit-tags which will be provided. thankyou, and good riddance, courtesy of the Red Devil....his address is....err sorry,........ thankyou. and dont come back"

thanks for the fanfare, sarcastically delivered in true, I dont agree with you, style. I am entitled to my opinion whether you like it, or not. Its called debate. If we all agreed with everyone else, life would be so poor.

i feel, in the case of the UK in this instance. they have done SO much damge round the world wit Empire days and its colonialism which of course included slavery, and exploitation of all kinds, which continues with cheap labour in '3rd world'.....that they cannot now turn round and say no i dont want immigants comeing and staying here....many are treated like cattle by the authorities

let us NOT blame tem but te system itself is my way. the whole ting when looked deeply at..ie., 'multiculturalism' is a means by which the powers that be can manipulate their fave strategy, divide and control. having groups fighting with one another. tis diverts attention away from the puppet string pulling fascists

Regarding cheap labour, we are doing it right now, so is the United States, in "outsourcing" to third world countries. But I do not wish to carry the can for something that happened before I was born, nor do I intend to. The sins of the father etc etc should NOT be visited upon the children. Its wrong, its immoral.

The troubles in Ireland are all caused, indirectly, by occurrences of 400 years ago, those people live in the past. Its time, not to forget the past, but to stop blaming the past, look to the future. I would love to see a one world, one government but, with the state of human nature, it will never happen.

i feel, in the case of the UK in this instance. they have done SO much damge round the world wit Empire days and its colonialism which of course included slavery, and exploitation of all kinds, which continues with cheap labour in '3rd world'.....that they cannot now turn round and say no i dont want immigants comeing and staying here....many are treated like cattle by the authorities

let us NOT blame tem but te system itself is my way. the whole ting when looked deeply at..ie., 'multiculturalism' is a means by which the powers that be can manipulate their fave strategy, divide and control. having groups fighting with one another. tis diverts attention away from the puppet string pulling fascists
Empire days, could America have become, the worlds super power, without the original british settlers, could australia, or new zealand be the countries they are today without, the original british settlers, and canada too, and the language of the british empire english.

Would singapore be the country it is today, would hong kong be the city it is today, it was a fishing village when the brits arrived.

Slavery was a American thing, no british people employed slaves, on UK soil.

Facts not fiction.

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i feel, in the case of the UK in this instance. they have done SO much damge round the world wit Empire days and its colonialism which of course included slavery, and exploitation of all kinds, which continues with cheap labour in '3rd world'..


And by the way, compare ex british colonies, to french, spain, and dutch,and portugals, ex-colonies, and tell me of one sucessfull country, that was a colony of these countries!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding cheap labour, we are doing it right now, so is the United States, in "outsourcing" to third world countries. But I do not wish to carry the can for something that happened before I was born, nor do I intend to. The sins of the father etc etc should NOT be visited upon the children. Its wrong, its immoral.

me:::call it names, and idealizin away wont do nuthin....we have to FACE te past. if you do a friend wrong, you cant just pretend to forget it...resentment an ll that. human relations are incrediblycomplex and ....

The troubles in Ireland are all caused, indirectly, by occurrences of 400 years ago, those people live in the past. Its time, not to forget the past, but to stop blaming the past, look to the future. I would love to see a one world, one government but, with the state of human nature, it will never happen.

ohhh jeezu we dont want world goverment. thats what the facists want! new world order?

by facing the past i dontmean dwelling on past conflicts as a justification to carry on as pr usual. but for tings to be looked at honestly

It is true that the Great British Empire did greatly influence the world in myriad ways, both positive and negative and it is only natural to still be feeling the effects of this, after all, its total demise only happened a few decades ago. But in the same way that other great empires shifted and moulded the world in the past and whose legacies can still be felt and experienced but that have no strong influence or power, the British Nationalists must understand that England is now just a bit player on the world stage, but an insidious one at that, meddling in just about every other country's affairs and making sure its fingers are stuck deep into as many pies as possible. But that is more to do with British based corporations. Power-wise, at most, it makes a cameo appearance from time to time donning its VIC(ountry) hat as it licks the ass of America and pretends at playing free world saviour. The present stars are the US, EU and Japan, closely followed by India and China who are waiting in the wings ready to take over.

England is a multi-cultural society and whoever is British cannot be a foreigner in England. If it wasn't for the influx, hard work and influence of foreign immigrants into Britain since the end of the second world war, then England would be a poor third world country.

“ Originally Posted by duendy
i feel, in the case of the UK in this instance. they have done SO much damge round the world wit Empire days and its colonialism which of course included slavery, and exploitation of all kinds, which continues with cheap labour in '3rd world'..


And by the way, compare ex british colonies, to french, spain, and dutch,and portugals, ex-colonies, and tell me of one sucessfull country, that was a colony of these countries!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL all you wanna.....colonialism is colonialism and believe it, the English aint been no saints!

they have done SO much damge round the world... ...that they cannot now turn round and say no i dont want immigants comeing and staying here....

Why not? I don't understand your statement? Please explain.

Baron Max

Why not? I don't understand your statement? Please explain.

Baron Max
simple theenglish have gon round rthe world mithering and exploting and dividing and ruling other peoples for their own agenda for accumulation of riches and power......nowww, that things for some who dont accept this suddenly want to remove all the people who are desperate is a bit of a nerve

but get this. i am very awre tat the people who have been the experiment o an influx of diverse peoples is the working class white people.....te London Eastend is good example........they actually really accepted them well quite while despite the well heavy rascism against Jamaicans in 50s 60s....!

I lived in the UK for 30 years, as with all Uk citizens we know criminals, either indirectly or directly, i have never seen or known, a criminal with a gun, guns usually replica ones, are used in robberies, only hardened criminals, and drug dealers have access to guns.

I like guns, and i like shooting with them at the range, but guns are dangerous, and no one can know the state of mind, of the person carrying one, all the gun rampages in the Uk, like hungerford, and the Dunblane school attack, could have been avoided, if we controlled the way we issue guns, to farmers and gun club members.

Everbody has a breaking point, it is better he reaches that point with a knife, or a baseball bat, than with a gun.

If we had a gun problem in the UK, the police would be issued with guns, on a permanent basis, but they are not, and there is no gun problem in the Uk,
and if the police are not armed, why on earth do you need to be Godless Evil.

Godless Evil, if you feel more comfortable, with a 44 magnum, under your pillow, i suggest you move to America, i am sure you can even buy a UZI too.
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Gun manufacturers are gearing up for the scheduled expiration next week of a 10-year-old federal ban on assault weapons and are taking orders for semiautomatic rifles and high-capacity ammunition magazines that may soon become legal again, according to a report released yesterday.

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Godless Evil when you start down the gun road, there is no stopping.

Assault Rifles, for muggers, or loonies killing kids at school with Assault Rifles, do you want to follow America, down its gun path, 10 years ago a british tourist knocked on a Americans door, late at night,because his car broke down, the owner shot him for it.

Guns in the hands, of loonies leads to death.

Well i never said i want or need a gun, but obviously if we have guns then everyone has to have one, but i do believe the police should carry guns even if the general populas cannot, in fact it is better that way, you have more control over the population, i cannot imagine the BNP would let general population own guns, they would just allow you to freely defend yourself in any situation.

Like the case of if a robber comes in your home, if someone comes in my house to nick stuff, i should be able to smash his skull in without worrying about being sued, it's my fucking house not his, what about this shit with burglers suing people because they tripped up on their doorstep LOL they shouldn't be allowed to do anything.

I have a mini crossbow under my bed, someone comes in they get a fucking arrow in their brain.

i HATE te BNP. dont believe they want tings goo...teir suits and smiles and 'chic' faascism. it is a lie to gain favour. it is faacist. we have all been trough it, and the foundtion of this culture is profoundly racist in truly evil ways. shit they dont like PEOPLE out of their eilte club. believe this.

abot killing intruders. maybe if they go to attack your loved ones or you. i cant pretedn i wouldn't go for him her.......but to justify killing or seriously maiming for intruding is wrong in my opinion
imagine...regress. go back to you as an infant. now imagine that a boy comes into yor space and steals your toy/ can you picture yourself killing the other kid?

i HATE te BNP.

But some other people don't ...so what?

Baron Max

I have a mini crossbow under my bed, someone comes in they get a fucking arrow in their brain.

Trust me .....get a gun and learn how to shoot it! A fucking mini-crossbow is little more than a fuckin' toy! If you should miss, ye're in deep, deep doo-doo, aren't you? And I've seen many who are good with a crossbow miss some pretty easy targets .....and they werent' scared shitless when shooting it. Get a gun and learn how to shoot it!

Baron Max

i HATE te BNP. dont believe they want tings goo...teir suits and smiles and 'chic' faascism. it is a lie to gain favour. it is faacist. we have all been trough it, and the foundtion of this culture is profoundly racist in truly evil ways. shit they dont like PEOPLE out of their eilte club. believe this.

abot killing intruders. maybe if they go to attack your loved ones or you. i cant pretedn i wouldn't go for him her.......but to justify killing or seriously maiming for intruding is wrong in my opinion
imagine...regress. go back to you as an infant. now imagine that a boy comes into yor space and steals your toy/ can you picture yourself killing the other kid?

I know what you mean with the elite thing, that is my only problem with facist party's is the organisation, they don't always listen and just want to push the agenda, in other words the manifesto becomes law for the party.
They also tend to stick to racial stuff too much which is IMO a bit old hat these days, i mean yeah immigration but i think the human race has somewhat accepted other races, so pushing that issue don't do you any favours when you're already facist these days, yes you could be openly against immigration but don't make it your central thing.

I never was a fan of the nazis or hitler, again it was an elite thing and because of its lack of real organisation, it was out of control.

However i was interested in Sir Oswald Mosley and the BUF http://www.oswaldmosley.com/ and Enoch powell.

Now Mosleys shit wouldn't have worked even at the time,(with the benefit of hindsight of course) but you can learn from the past, and build a system into something that works and appeals to all, thats the ultimate aim, whether that can be achieved and be organised is another matter.

As far as burglers you want thieves to be scared to go into people homes, i mean they'll wait till you are out if they are desperate, you need strictness to control order, otherwise people have no real fear to commit crimes, there is nothing lurking in the back of their mind.

I mean people can only be scared of prison today, but if they are scared shitless of prison and scared shitless of getting killed, only the very clever or very insane would bother.

the police force was originally formed and intended to protect the middle and upper classes......hah,,,still does. go ask a ghetto dweller, inner city, housing estate

they are more like jail wardens there, and vulnerable pople tere wont get adequate police help if any

throw into tis mix the war on drugs, and the crime tat causes wit gangeterism, guns, robbery etc and we got the HUGE mess we are in....allover

i feel it serves te ruling elite well this situation fo various reasons. one is that such places act like secular hells....places mny middl class pople dont want to go through or even think about.....which is the STICK used by the frces to control...'you TOO can end up here if you dont follow our rules'

soon they get so pranpid about 'out thereeee' they begin moving into gated communities which keeps 'riff raff' out

but all of that is not going t go away

England is a multi-cultural society and whoever is British cannot be a foreigner in England. If it wasn't for the influx, hard work and influence of foreign immigrants into Britain since the end of the second world war, then England would be a poor third world country.

The people of the UK in the 50's and 60's were never given the chance to vote on whether they wanted multiculturalism or not, and this means that the whole creation of the multicultural state has no democratic, legal or moral force.

Multiculturalism is in fact an Orwellian "word deceit" in that it is a phrase used in order to obscure the fact that multiculturalism is in reality colonisation and immigrants are colonists.

The British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting the colonists within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.

Multiculturalism is racist in that it destroys the indigenous people upon whose bones and culture it is built.

The people of the UK in the 50's and 60's were never given the chance to vote on whether they wanted multiculturalism or not, and this means that the whole creation of the multicultural state has no democratic, legal or moral force.

Multiculturalism is in fact an Orwellian "word deceit" in that it is a phrase used in order to obscure the fact that multiculturalism is in reality colonisation and immigrants are colonists.

The British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting the colonists within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.

Multiculturalism is racist in that it destroys the indigenous people upon whose bones and culture it is built.

Amen to that!

yeah!

“In this country, in 15 or 20 years time, the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”

amen brothers!
we shall do the lord's work and rid this country of all the colored vermin

The people of the UK in the 50's and 60's were never given the chance to vote on whether they wanted multiculturalism or not, and this means that the whole creation of the multicultural state has no democratic, legal or moral force.

Bullshit. They voted their governments in over 10 post-war elections; those legitimately elected governments then welcomed us in.

Multiculturalism is in fact an Orwellian "word deceit" in that it is a phrase used in order to obscure the fact that multiculturalism is in reality colonisation and immigrants are colonists.

I for one live in peace with my 'colonised' white neighbours. I'm buying a sofa from one of them, he runs a furniture import business. Do I buy direct and cut him out because he's white? No, even if his price was higher than ordering online, I'd still buy through him - I'd rather the money go into the hands of someone I like and trust.

The British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting the colonists within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.

Nice. Copied and pasted STRAIGHT from the BNP website.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/columnists/brimstone2.php?leeId=57

Multiculturalism is racist in that it destroys the indigenous people upon whose bones and culture it is built.

"Destroys"? Just how many Britons of british ancestry have been "destroyed"? Strangely, you seem to have a shaky grasp of your own language. But that's our fault too, I suppose?

amen brothers!
we shall do the lord's work and rid this country of all the colored vermin

NO!
That may be what you "think" was said, but it actually was not said.

i HATE te BNP. dont believe they want tings goo...teir suits and smiles and 'chic' faascism.

Why? Because some socialist teacher in school told you they were baddies, naughty people who should be put down? Believe me "chic" comes with socialist thinking, its chic to be "pc"; its "chic" to be anti fascist; its chic to be anti establishment, all these are left wing chicks and left wing chic.

The BNP are not a party I have voted for and probably never will be but the way the UK is going, the far right is re emerging and is emerging stronger and with more support than ever in this country and its all down to the "pc" brigade and the lefties who currently riule our lives, and have infdiltrated our Police, Justice System and government.

The backlash is coming and its the chic lefties who have caused it. The very fabric of society is disintegrating with single mothers leeching the welfare state, criminals being treated as victims, victims arrested if the try to defend what is theirs, the list goes on.

Multiculturalism is racist in that it destroys the indigenous people upon whose bones and culture it is built.

yeah! the ancients must be turning over in their graves

*At the end of the 18th century Britain was not a democratic nation. With fewer than one in eight Englishmen entitled to take part in elections, only a fraction of the people in Britain had the right to vote. If you were a woman or working-class you were excluded from the electoral process, and so were most middle-class men. Among the elite ruling class, many were opposed to change and had no desire to alter Britain's ancient 'constitution', since political reform would mean they had to give up some of their privileges.

*The Catholic Emancipation Act (1829) lifted the ban on Catholics holding public office. Then four years later the Slavery Abolition Act finally made slavery illegal and gave all slaves within the British empire their freedom.

*Yet even after the third Reform Act (1884), the right to vote was still based on what property a person owned rather than the principle of universal suffrage

*Women, for example, had no voting rights whatsoever in parliamentary elections until 1918. Non-white 'citizens' of the British empire lacked political power and were denied representative government - usually on the pretext that they were not yet ready to take on the complex system of constitutional government enjoyed in Britain.

yeah! the ancients must be turning over in their graves

*At the end of the 18th century Britain was not a democratic nation. With fewer than one in eight Englishmen entitled to take part in elections, only a fraction of the people in Britain had the right to vote. If you were a woman or working-class you were excluded from t