View Full Version : Is it possible to change or mask an IP adress?


lixluke
03-15-07, 08:17 AM
There is a game online that only allows you to create up to 3 accounts.
It bases it on your IP address. If I can change my IP address, I can create 3 more accounts, and therefore, make more money.

The problem is that my IP adress remains the same no matter what I do.
I have my computer connected to my Netgear router. This is conneced to my Motorola cable modem which is connected to the internet via my Comcast internet subsription.

Everywhere I go, my IP address is fully recognizable, and I cannot figure out how to change it. Is there any way to change it or mask it so I can create 3 new accounts?

Avatar
03-15-07, 08:25 AM
You can try going through a proxy server, but public ones don't support enough data transfer for video gaming.
Also a smart filter, and based on the proxy server settings, can detect that you are using a proxy server.

Besides you should not act against the legal interests of the game company. It has the right to restrict your use of their services.

(Q)
03-15-07, 08:26 AM
There is a game online that only allows you to create up to 3 accounts.
It bases it on your IP address. If I can change my IP address, I can create 3 more accounts, and therefore, make more money.

I thought you hated making money?

"They are all the rich. They are all enemies."

Avatar
03-15-07, 08:28 AM
He's a hypocrite and a slave to the social security system, so no surprises there.

RubiksMaster
03-15-07, 09:05 AM
You could try contacting your ISP and telling them you need a new IP assigned to you. I don't know if this would cause any problems with your email account they provided you with, or with your subscription in general. But I have heard of people doing this.

An easier, and less permanent way of doing it would be to use a proxy. It would certainly slow down your connection, unless you managed to find a good one

Kunax
03-15-07, 11:18 AM
cheating is for losers

Nikelodeon
03-15-07, 11:22 AM
Its not some kind of gambling game site is it? Where they give you a free complimentary $10 if you create an account?

one_raven
03-15-07, 11:28 AM
Is there any way to change it or mask it so I can create 3 new accounts?

Yes there is.
Several ways, in fact.

Kunax
03-15-07, 11:55 AM
Yes there is.
Several ways, in fact.

heh and that is all he needs to know

Sock puppet path
03-15-07, 12:41 PM
Try calling the worker crab support number I'm sure the mindless automatons over there can help a genius like you.

Nikelodeon
03-15-07, 12:53 PM
Be sure to call them prol sukkas.

lixluke
03-15-07, 08:53 PM
I guess the only way is proxy.

lixluke
03-15-07, 09:01 PM
I thought you hated making money?
I disagree with underpaying people for their efforts.

What is the best free proxy?

Idle Mind
03-16-07, 12:16 AM
Proxy is not the only method. Also, your ISP cannot assign you a new IP address because they are likely set up to have a DHCP server do that.

I will give you a clue, however: IP addresses are assigned based on MAC ID's. A different MAC ID will cause you to obtain a different IP address.

However, your connection with Comcast may prevent you from having more than one IP address at any given time, and there are cache's on the ISP side that store which MAC ID has which IP address in a particular IP block -- these are usually cleared fairly regularly, but you may not be able to get a second IP for several hours before the cache is cleared.

(Q)
03-16-07, 08:37 AM
I disagree with underpaying people for their efforts.

I recall that you disagree with paying people for their efforts, especially if their efforts bring value.

What is the best free proxy?

This is a good example of showing very little effort and offering no value. In fact, you seek to leech off the efforts and value of others.

Syzygys
03-16-07, 08:58 AM
Doesn't a dinamic IP show always a different address? Mine does....

lixluke
03-16-07, 10:44 AM
I recall that you disagree with paying people for their efforts, especially if their efforts bring value.



This is a good example of showing very little effort and offering no value. In fact, you seek to leech off the efforts and value of others.
Stop trolling. This thread is about changing/masking IP adresses. Get lost.

Nikelodeon
03-16-07, 12:31 PM
I thought this thread was about scamming money off the internet.

Sock puppet path
03-16-07, 12:38 PM
Well it is but in a round about dishonest kinda way.

Absane
03-16-07, 04:03 PM
http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=8112

This program works for my modem. I run it and in 60 seconds or less, I have a brand new IP address. That, or you can disconnect your modem for 20 minutes or so and your ISP should change your IP.

Idle Mind
03-16-07, 04:42 PM
Well it is but in a round about dishonest kinda way.
Is any scamming honest?
That, or you can disconnect your modem for 20 minutes or so and your ISP should change your IP.
This is likely not to be the case, as I described above. I have had the same dynamic IP for over a year. There have been periods where my modem has been offline for hours (recently I had a power outage for 17 hours) where the modem was offline and had no power. Still, I have the same IP.

The IP address is assigned to the MAC ID of the device that you have connected to the modem. Whether that is a router (like in Luke's case) or a computer depends on the setup in each person's home. A MAC ID is a unique hardware identifier assigned to that specific device at the factory. With routers (and most modern NICs) you can change the MAC ID, or spoof it. Routers have a feature in their configuration that will clone the MAC ID from any of the devices (computers, whatever) connected to their LAN, and use that as their own. This will effectively change the MAC ID and change the IP address (which, again, is assigned by the DHCP server based on MAC ID).

The problem with power cycling the modem for any period of time is the ARP cache. ARP stands for Address Resolution Protocol, and works in a similar manner to DNS (DNS servers store which domain name, ie www.sciforums.com, is assigned to which IP address, so you as the user can enter the domain name and the computer can use the IP address to bring up a site). ARP servers store which IP address is assigned to which MAC ID. At the ISP I work for, the ARP cache is cleared every 4 hours. I don't know what it is for other ISPs. And, even if you wait until after the cache is cleared, you may still pick up the same IP address. Luck of the draw.

Absane, I don't know what that batch file does, but I imagine that it runs a script that changes the MAC ID of the NIC (which you can do from the Device Manager and Advanced Properties of the device).

Absane
03-16-07, 04:47 PM
With my ISP my IP can change if I leave it d/c for 15 minutes. I don't know how the program works, but it does change my IP address. I've used it to bypass an IP ban of a game I used to play.

Xerxes
03-16-07, 05:10 PM
You could probably tunnel it through a remote ssh connection. I haven't tried it myself though..

Kunax
03-16-07, 06:42 PM
why help someone cheat?

Syzygys
03-16-07, 11:08 PM
why help someone cheat?

Maybe he is building a bomb, he just didn't want us to know...

Anyway, this is a tecnical thread not a moral one..

Kunax
03-17-07, 02:07 AM
There is a game online that only allows you to create up to 3 accounts.
It bases it on your IP address. If I can change my IP address, I can create 3 more accounts, and therefore, make more money.

this is about how to cheat in a game

Stryder
03-17-07, 07:25 AM
I would always be hesitant about using programs like that for instance:

The username "G-Man" sounds very similar to some of the handles that float around the hacking/script-kiddie community. This could be a wrong assumption however best to be weary.

A "Direct connection to the internet via your modem is needed", in other words if you have a router connecting you, you just might have a seperate firewall.

Admittedly it wasn't a self-extracting zip file, otherwise anything (in the sense of installation) could pretty much happen, which is the main reason why most people now use RAR compression.

As stated in the thread though, if you have a Router and you are using Cable. Check to see if your Router can "Clone a MAC address". If it can then you could potentially use a MAC address from a different peripheral to initiate an IP change.

The IP's are of course Cached with the MAC information, which means it can be possible to trigger a change back to the old IP with the old MAC address.

Some ISP's don't even need you to use a different MAC address, all they require you to do is reboot you're router. Some will require you to keep the router off for approx. 15-30 minutes as the cache goes stale.

Even if you manage to change your IP however there are still ways that a game or program can Identify your computer. For instance on a browser it could use Cookies or a whole bunch of identity tests, if it's an actual program then there is probably more data available too. The only way you'll know if they are actually obtaining extra data would be through a packet scanner and even then if they have done a good job with the programming and generated a Secure Tunnelling method you won't be able to packet scan directly.

Also note that using a Packet scanner with such games would be a breach of their TOC's and if caught would probably lose you access to the game in question.

Mickmeister
03-18-07, 12:22 AM
I have seen some good advice, but why don't you just connect to a neighbor's wifi router? That would be a lot easier.

Stryder
03-18-07, 01:44 AM
Technically using someone open wifi network is actually illegal and if caught can result in prosecution. Accessing such things anonymously also potentially leaves your connection open to be snooped, imagine you connect to an open network thinking "ooo... free connection" when in reality it's been setup as a sting operation in the area.

Syzygys
03-18-07, 04:27 AM
Again, use an ISP with a dynamic IP, end of story, problem solved....

w1z4rd
03-18-07, 06:23 AM
I cant believe you are on social and have an internet connection. You should try social in a 3rd world country at $80 a month.

Kunax
03-18-07, 12:29 PM
lixluke: waht game are you playing, and please give me your ingame name(s) so i can beat you senseless

Nikelodeon
03-19-07, 02:14 AM
Blackjack? Poker?

Stryder
03-19-07, 07:46 AM
I cant believe you are on social and have an internet connection. You should try social in a 3rd world country at $80 a month.

Some countries realise the importance of their citizens at least acquiring a computer and connection to the internet to get over "Technophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technophobia)", something further to that is the education such equipment and ease of information provides.

Other countries however might suggest their reasoning for not embarking is budgetary, while others still haven't embraced giving their people more freedoms and see a threat of those people tasting freedom as being a downfall to their social and economic structure.

Some countries you can change democratically, others such talk just increases the changes of what liberties you do have being taken away.

I'm sure if people in a 3rd world country want access to the internet, then it could be made possible as long as the country in question is democratic and understands what freedoms it would be giving it's people (and what foreign investment potentials it gives to the rest of the world, which is obviously another concern of some countries.)

Chatha
03-19-07, 12:10 PM
I don't know much about computers, but even I know its possible to mask or change IP

Syzygys
03-19-07, 04:48 PM
Come on, let's give an answer to the bastard so he can play:

Here is a program:

http://www.sa6ry.com/surfanonymous/faq/index.html

Kunax
03-20-07, 12:55 AM
Generally i don't think game devs. like people cheating in there games especially multi player games as it can quite easily destroy the overall fell of the game.
So with that i mind i think they would have implemented at least a little client logging which they quite easily can monitor for abnormalities.

Nasor
03-21-07, 12:53 PM
There is no way to use a "fake" ip address when you are communicating with another computer on the internet, since the ip address that you send to the other computer is the ip address that the other computer will use to send data back to you. You could make your computer "lie" about your ip address easily enough, but then you would never be able to receive any information from the other computer since any reply that the other computer tried to send would be directed to the bogus ip address, rather than the actual ip address that would cause the reply to reach your computer.