View Full Version : Is it moral to use cell phone jammers?


Syzygys
11-04-07, 09:17 PM
I say YES!!!!

Seriously, lots of businesses (spas, restaurants,etc.) started to use them, the problem is that they are illegal in the whole USA....

Classrooms, cinemas,etc should be all celljammed...

draqon
11-04-07, 09:23 PM
yeah...I dream of just sending EM distruption wave to knock out those all day long talking girls on a phone that are like, "well hey, like, hey, how are you...oh really....yeah....like yeah...and like...oh really?? totally!...yeah...like...like...yeah...yeah...oh really....yeah". I mean I just want to turn the thing on and their darn cellphones will go dead. grrrr

yeah its moral, retaliation time!

S.A.M.
11-04-07, 09:29 PM
What if its an emergency? A doctor on call? A death in the family?

draqon
11-04-07, 09:31 PM
What if its an emergency? A doctor on call? A death in the family?

its always an emergency with them. :rolleyes: I cant stand forever talking...walking...talking...

Gudard Ramin
11-04-07, 09:38 PM
as long as it is signposted then i don't see a problem, i mean it would suck if you needed to be reached and then you couldn't because some d0uch3 was jamming your phone with out you knowing about it. And only in places which you usually would have to turn them off or on silent. I for one am very respectful with my phone, only off silent wheni am at home

madanthonywayne
11-04-07, 11:26 PM
I say YES!!!!

Seriously, lots of businesses (spas, restaurants,etc.) started to use them, the problem is that they are illegal in the whole USA....

Classrooms, cinemas,etc should be all celljammed...
Really, they're illegal. Damn. You had me excited, I was about to run out and get one. It pisses me off when patients answer their phone in the middle of an exam. I'd love to have a cell phone jammer in my office.

cosmictraveler
11-05-07, 02:59 AM
Really, they're illegal. Damn. You had me excited, I was about to run out and get one. It pisses me off when patients answer their phone in the middle of an exam. I'd love to have a cell phone jammer in my office.



Why not post a requirement that all cell phones must be turned off inside

your office due to certain types of testing equipment that could damage

those phones or your testing equipment there just like the airlines do when

your in the plane? Perhaps that way people will turn at least some of them

off making it a little less noisy. :shrug:

Grantywanty
11-05-07, 04:39 AM
What if its an emergency? A doctor on call? A death in the family?

Well, we used to do just fine without the access. And we could of course leave the name of the restaurant, business, spa and, primitive as it may be and demanding of extra personal interaction, a land line could be used. Doctors on call - where I can stretch to imagine the few extra seconds perhaps making some difference - could go to cellphone restaurants.

Grantywanty
11-05-07, 04:41 AM
Really, they're illegal. Damn. You had me excited, I was about to run out and get one. It pisses me off when patients answer their phone in the middle of an exam. I'd love to have a cell phone jammer in my office.

Try pavlovian conditioning. Every time they do this check their prostate or anus. Be demonstative putting on the gloves. It might take a few generations for it to have effect on the population as a whole (no puns intended).

Syzygys
11-05-07, 08:49 AM
What if its an emergency? A doctor on call? A death in the family?

THEN you walk 30-100 feet AWAY and make the call!!!! Duh!!!

Oh you mean they have to be reached? They can use a beeper, I am not sure they are effected or not. Still, why should my moviegoing experience be ruined because there are doctors (or whatever important persons might be) in the audience??

Not to mention the ringtones!! I am actually talking about adults, they have such a loud ringtones like boomboxes. Maybe they have a hearing problem....

Anyway, going back to the original question, if you have the right to invade my personal space, I have the right to deffend myself...

P.S.: A death in the family news can wait. The person is probably enjoying him/herself by dinning or having a massage in the spa, why ruin HIS/HER experience??

draqon
11-05-07, 08:57 AM
agentX: So what do you use for your security measures exactly?
Me: well I got a rocket launcher here
agentX: a rocket launcher as a security device? Who are you planning to get with that?
Me: Oh no...you dont understand me. I am not planning to blow up anyone or anything
agentX: than why carry a rocket launcher?
Me: Well I launch a rocket with it at altitude of ten kilometers and the small nano nuclear bomb inside it, detonates sending a small localized EM waves throughout this sector
agentX: what about radioactive waste?
Me: Oh...no worries we all drink red wine here, don't we? As for the radiation, a small amount of it is helpful
agentX: oh boy

mikenostic
11-05-07, 10:03 AM
What if its an emergency? A doctor on call? A death in the family?
Hmmm...yes, of course that extra 50-100 feet the person would have to walk to get out of the jammer's range (i.e. walk out of the theater or restaurant)* could mean the difference in those kinds of calls. :bugeye:

*emergency or not, the people around you that have to listen to you blab while they are trying to have a nice dinner or watch a movie do not give a rat's ass about your emergency. Your spouse could have gotten into a wreck, but if you're talking all loud and frantic, the only thing the other people are thinking are either: 1. STFU and hang up or, 2. take that shit somewhere else

Sam, what exactly was going through your mind when you asked this question?

Ripley
11-05-07, 10:26 AM
Especially now it's those damn ring tunes blaring.

Baron Max
11-05-07, 12:06 PM
"Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

But if others don't do unto you as you'd do unto, then shoot 'em! :)

Baron Max

Nikelodeon
11-05-07, 12:08 PM
Or they shoot you first.

Baron Max
11-05-07, 12:10 PM
Or they shoot you first.

Or perhaps just drive you completely crazy by using their cell phones.

Baron Max

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 12:18 PM
Hmmm...yes, of course that extra 50-100 feet the person would have to walk to get out of the jammer's range (i.e. walk out of the theater or restaurant)* could mean the difference in those kinds of calls. :bugeye:

*emergency or not, the people around you that have to listen to you blab while they are trying to have a nice dinner or watch a movie do not give a rat's ass about your emergency. Your spouse could have gotten into a wreck, but if you're talking all loud and frantic, the only thing the other people are thinking are either: 1. STFU and hang up or, 2. take that shit somewhere else

Sam, what exactly was going through your mind when you asked this question?

That the person should be able to receive a call?

I always turn my phone on vibrate when I am in public places; jamming would mean I could not be contacted in an emergency. e.g. if my kid was sick in school or my dad had a heart attack; after all I cannot always choose where I am going to be.

mikenostic
11-05-07, 12:29 PM
That the person should be able to receive a call?

I always turn my phone on vibrate when I am in public places; jamming would mean I could not be contacted in an emergency. e.g. if my kid was sick in school or my dad had a heart attack; after all I cannot always choose where I am going to be.
That's a piss poor excuse, as always, Sam.
You seem to be old enough to know that you, and every other MF that's old enough, that you all got along just fine w/o a cell phone before everyone and their mother had one; and you can get along just as well nowadays by waiting just a few minutes to go to a designated area for cell phones; emergency or not. If 30 seconds to a few minutes means that much to someone, then I'd suggest that they lighten their daily schedule a bit.
And the ring tones are just part of it, Sam. Even if it's on vibrate and no one in the theater/restaurant hears it, they will as soon as you answer it and start flapping your lips right in front of them.
If I were a restaurant/theater manager, I would not care about people who just 'have to have their cell phone on'. If they didn't like it, they can go somewhere else and disturb those patrons, while waiting for an 'emergency' call. I'd rather have a plethora of satisfied customers that didn't have to listen to one side of someone's cell phone than to try to satisfy one whiner that has to be attached to their cell phone at the hip.

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 12:35 PM
That's a piss poor excuse, as always, Sam.
You seem to be old enough to know that you, and every other MF that's old enough, that you all got along just fine w/o a cell phone before everyone and their mother had one; and you can get along just as well nowadays by waiting just a few minutes to go to a designated area for cell phones; emergency or not. If 30 seconds to a few minutes means that much to someone, then I'd suggest that they lighten their daily schedule a bit.
And the ring tones are just part of it, Sam. Even if it's on vibrate and no one in the theater/restaurant hears it, they will as soon as you answer it and start flapping your lips right in front of them.
If I were a restaurant/theater manager, I would not care about people who just 'have to have their cell phone on'. If they didn't like it, they can go somewhere else and disturb those patrons, while waiting for an 'emergency' call. I'd rather have a plethora of satisfied customers that didn't have to listen to one side of someone's cell phone than to try to satisfy one whiner that has to be attached to their cell phone at the hip.

People also got along well without transport, internet and sliced bread.

The option to have access is now available and is very useful for people like working mothers and elderly people. I see no reason why I need to go back to the good ole days when I would have to be near a landline before I could be reached. As for flapping lips, you don't need a phone for that.

mikenostic
11-05-07, 12:43 PM
People also got along well without transport, internet and sliced bread.

The option to have access is now available and is very useful for people like working mothers and elderly people. I see no reason why I need to go back to the good ole days when I would have to be near a landline before I could be reached.
Let me put it into lamen's terms for you then:
Every other patron in the movie theater trying to watch the movie undisturbed trumps anybody with any emergency still yapping on their phone while still in the theater (including the loud, annoying ring)

Jammers are there to ensure that the people, like you, that refuse to turn their cell phones off in the theater....as a sign of courtesy to others....don't answer or talk on their phone in the middle of the theater.

I'm sure theaters and restaurants put up signs if they are jamming cell phone signals. If you see this sign and are one of the people that need their cell phones to be on, go somewhere else.

If I'm ever out on a date, I turn my cell phone off. I also expect my date will turn hers off. If her phone rings and she either answers it or looks at it and puts it back into her purse w/o turning it off, to me the date is over. I find that very disrespectful and discourteous.
"But what if she has to leave it on for her kids, etc?"
A: Then maybe she doesn't have time, or even need to be going on dates. :shrug:


As for flapping lips, you don't need a phone for that.
No, but cell phones seem to make incessant lip-flapping much worse.

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 12:48 PM
Let me put it into lamen's terms for you then:
Every other patron in the movie theater trying to watch the movie undisturbed trumps anybody with any emergency still yapping on their phone while still in the theater (including the loud, annoying ring)

Heh if it was your family emergency, would you still think that?

I agree that calls can be answered away from the movie or whatever, but the ability to receive them should not be restricted.

mikenostic
11-05-07, 01:07 PM
Heh if it was your family emergency, would you still think that?
Absolutely. I either turn my cell phone off or leave it in my vehicle when I go into clubs/theatres/restaurants. If I was that worried about being able to answer my cell phone for an emergency that I may not be able to do anything about, then I wouldn't go into those places. And by the time you get an emergency call, it's not like you can 'prevent' anything, whatever the emergency was, already happened anyway.

I agree that calls can be answered away from the movie or whatever, but the ability to receive them should not be restricted.
In certain places, yes they should. I.e. If you're on an airplane, what fuckin difference would it make if you had an emergency call when you were on the plane? It's not like you can do a damn thing about it anyway.
And besides, you'll still have those jackasses that will answer their vibrating phone in a theater and instead of getting up to leave, they'll just sit there and yak away. Better to just nip it in the bud.

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 01:09 PM
Absolutely. I either turn my cell phone off or leave it in my vehicle when I go into clubs/theatres/restaurants. If I was that worried about being able to answer my cell phone for an emergency that I may not be able to do anything about, then I wouldn't go into those places. And by the time you get an emergency call, it's not like you can 'prevent' anything, whatever the emergency was, already happened anyway.


In certain places, yes they should. I.e. If you're on an airplane, what fuckin difference would it make if you had an emergency call when you were on the plane? It's not like you can do a damn thing about it anyway.
And besides, you'll still have those jackasses that will answer their vibrating phone in a theater and instead of getting up to leave, they'll just sit there and yak away. Better to just nip it in the bud.

I would be willing to tolerate the jackasses for the freedom to have the option of receiving the call.

madanthonywayne
11-05-07, 01:45 PM
I see no reason why I need to go back to the good ole days when I would have to be near a landline before I could be reached.
No one is going to block your calls outdoors. If your calls are being blocked, you'll be near a landline!

Nasor
11-05-07, 01:59 PM
I agree that it would be okay if there are signs clearly posted stating that cell phones will be jammed. If you don't post that sort of warning, you risk being sued into oblivion when someone dies because they weren't able to use their phone (and rightfully so).

But if you're going to bother putting up signs saying that they will be jammed, why not just have a "No cellphones allowed" sign? Then when someone violates it, tell them to stop and throw them out if they don’t comply. You don’t even need an expensive and illegal jammer to do that – and you can make common-sense exceptions if someone has some sort of emergency.

mikenostic
11-05-07, 02:06 PM
I agree that it would be okay if there are signs clearly posted stating that cell phones will be jammed. If you don't post that sort of warning, you risk being sued into oblivion when someone dies because they weren't able to use their phone (and rightfully so).
I dont' agree with that. Because first off, a vendor does not have to allow anything the vendor does not want in there. I'm sure you've seen signs posted to the degree of: We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime for any reason.
That right there covers the lawsuits.


But if you're going to bother putting up signs saying that they will be jammed, why not just have a "No cellphones allowed" sign? Then when someone violates it, tell them to stop and throw them out if they don’t comply. You don’t even need an expensive and illegal jammer to do that – and you can make common-sense exceptions if someone has some sort of emergency.
No, but you need paid ushers/attendees to ensure that the rules are enforced. You think a yearly salary for every usher/attendee that you have will cost less than a jamming device?
You only need one. It doesn't take breaks, lunches or off time.

Syzygys
11-05-07, 04:15 PM
jamming would mean I could not be contacted in an emergency. e.g. if my kid was sick in school or my dad had a heart attack;

There are very few emergencies (unless you are a doctor or firefighter, in which case you should be on duty and not in the cinema) that requires a person's INSTANT notification!! Your kid or dad are probably in much safer hands where they are at the time of call, and getting the info 1 hour later doesn't change much.
Also your batteries can be down or you in a badly covered area, so you will survive just fine, without knowing about shit happening immediatelly...

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 05:58 PM
There are very few emergencies (unless you are a doctor or firefighter, in which case you should be on duty and not in the cinema) that requires a person's INSTANT notification!! Your kid or dad are probably in much safer hands where they are at the time of call, and getting the info 1 hour later doesn't change much.
Also your batteries can be down or you in a badly covered area, so you will survive just fine, without knowing about shit happening immediatelly...

That was just an example. It could be anything. Cell phones are a boon to girls for example, who may be stranded for whatever reason. They are also an instant handy resource to dial 911 from anywhere where there is a signal. Taking away the choice of access is simply wrong.

Enmos
11-05-07, 05:59 PM
yeah...I dream of just sending EM distruption wave to knock out those all day long talking girls on a phone that are like, "well hey, like, hey, how are you...oh really....yeah....like yeah...and like...oh really?? totally!...yeah...like...like...yeah...yeah...oh really....yeah". I mean I just want to turn the thing on and their darn cellphones will go dead. grrrr

yeah its moral, retaliation time!

:bravo::worship::D

Baron Max
11-05-07, 06:48 PM
Taking away the choice of access is simply wrong.

And what of the cell phone users taking away the choices of others not to be disturbed by ringing phones and jabbering phone users?

No one is so important that they need a phone 24/7. They didn't need them in the old days, they don't need 'em now. All that bullshit is just more justification for disturbing others with the incessant chatter and ring tones.

Baron Max

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 06:53 PM
And what of the cell phone users taking away the choices of others not to be disturbed by ringing phones and jabbering phone users?

No one is so important that they need a phone 24/7. They didn't need them in the old days, they don't need 'em now. All that bullshit is just more justification for disturbing others with the incessant chatter and ring tones.

Baron Max

Jamming cell phones won't change that. People will make noise regardless. If you are sensitive, you can use Bose headphones.

Orleander
11-05-07, 06:53 PM
...No one is so important that they need a phone 24/7. They didn't need them in the old days, they don't need 'em now. All that bullshit is just more justification for disturbing others with the incessant chatter and ring tones.

Baron Max

agreed. No one in our house has one. It makes me crazy to see someone with a bluetooth paying for stuff with food stamps. :rolleyes:
When I hear someone talking really loud on their cell in the store, I join in the conversation....LOUDLY!
I turn to my kids and say "OMG! Did you hear that!! Jeans are on sale. WOW!! Paul cheated on jenny! Oh that sounds so good, she's having steak for supper. No, I don't like that kind of wine either"
What are they gonna do?

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 06:56 PM
Man you guys are fussy! It rarely bothers me; when it does the problem is resolved by tapping the offender on the shoulder and requesting them to tone down.

Orleander
11-05-07, 06:57 PM
Man you guys are fussy! It rarely bothers me; when it does the problem is resolved by tapping the offender on the shoulder and requesting them to tone down.

Yeah, if I touched anyone here (in the city, not my village), I'd probably get sued for assault. These people don't exactly understand civility. If they did, they wouldn't have to be told.

S.A.M.
11-05-07, 06:58 PM
Weird.

Orleander
11-05-07, 07:00 PM
shameful is more like it. Everyone cares about their rights, and no one else's

Enmos
11-05-07, 07:52 PM
Yeah, if I touched anyone here (in the city, not my village), I'd probably get sued for assault. These people don't exactly understand civility. If they did, they wouldn't have to be told.

Or get beat up, if you tapped on the wrong guys shoulder..

Grantywanty
11-06-07, 01:50 AM
People also got along well without transport, internet and sliced bread.

The option to have access is now available and is very useful for people like working mothers and elderly people. I see no reason why I need to go back to the good ole days when I would have to be near a landline before I could be reached. As for flapping lips, you don't need a phone for that.

Wait. We were not talking about a ban on cellphones. We were talking about certain establishments jamming. Given the technological lust and dependence out there - beyond those who are in true need - I doubt this will be everywhere. It will be a niche phenomenon and one you can avoid.

And in those businesses you would always be near a landline.

Syzygys
11-06-07, 05:55 AM
Also, why a doctor or a mother of 4 has more right to receive a call then me, who just want to yak away???