Is hell a good place?

We cannot know how the first iniquity demonstrated itself but we can know that rebellion begins with questioning the status quo.

The moment God was questioned in any way, he responded with an evil punishment.
Evil as I class it in any case. He does not tolerate anyone doing their will, if it does not comply with his will. Obey or else. Not quite what scriptures say he should be doing.

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

It would seem that God let himself be overcome by evil and responded with evil. Or evil must be good. God created the first division in his once united kingdom.
It appears that God does not follow his own good advise. Or does he? If God was following his WORD, then hell must be a good place somehow.
Strange but true.

Are their any theists who would like to show how this is not back sliding?
That is of course, a rhetorical question as back sliding cannot be denied.

Was God overcome by evil?
Did God follow his literal WORD or not?
Should we?


Is hell a good place or is Gods WORD worthless since he himself ignores them and breaks his own laws?

Regards
DL

Good grief.

Pronouncements of truth and fact such as hell have no substance to work with.

That they "might be" is also just something merely declared without fact. No go.

Pronouncements of truth and fact such as hell have no substance to work with.

That they "might be" is also just something merely declared without fact. No go.



Does your mind have substance , or your mental process have substance ?

When you say truth , you have to specify about some action , Fact becomes as two or more person have the same experience. S
So I don't think your statement have legs to stand.

Is hell a good place?

We cannot know how the first iniquity demonstrated itself but we can know that rebellion begins with questioning the status quo.

The moment God was questioned in any way, he responded with an evil punishment.
Evil as I class it in any case. He does not tolerate anyone doing their will, if it does not comply with his will. Obey or else. Not quite what scriptures say he should be doing.

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

It would seem that God let himself be overcome by evil and responded with evil. Or evil must be good. God created the first division in his once united kingdom.
It appears that God does not follow his own good advise. Or does he? If God was following his WORD, then hell must be a good place somehow.
Strange but true.

Are their any theists who would like to show how this is not back sliding?
That is of course, a rhetorical question as back sliding cannot be denied.

Was God overcome by evil?
Did God follow his literal WORD or not?
Should we?


Is hell a good place or is Gods WORD worthless since he himself ignores them and breaks his own laws?

Regards
DL

What do you have against God, Heave you meat with Him, did He do anything evil to you. So why do you pick on some one you have not meat.

What do you have against God, Heave you meat with Him, did He do anything evil to you. So why do you pick on some one you have not meat.

Supposition of God's existence. Speaking as if God exists. Dishonest.

Does your mind have substance , or your mental process have substance ?

When you say truth , you have to specify about some action , Fact becomes as two or more person have the same experience. S
So I don't think your statement have legs to stand.

See brain science.

People's internal thoughts and sensations do not mean fact of external. And they even contradict.

Supposition of God's existence. Speaking as if God exists. Dishonest.



Supposition as He does not exist ? Dishonest.

What is real to me, might not be real to you and viseversa .

The day man make a living cell from carbon hydrogen ,oxygen , phosphorus and other elements then I might take your word seriously.

Supposition as He does not exist ? Dishonest.

There's no 'He' that can be shown that can even be considered as anything. Want to discuss an empty word that is only a placeholder for nothing?

Producing cells is not far off, if not already done.

See brain science.

People's internal thoughts and sensations do not mean fact of external. And they even contradict.


Please speak so this foreigner might understand you, in order to answer properly

If I predict some think it is not a fact until materialize ?

What do you think about Israel?

What do you have against God, Heave you meat with Him, did He do anything evil to you. So why do you pick on some one you have not meat.

The only thing I have against an imaginary God is imaginary blame for what he has done to imaginary victims.

Now if he were real, I do have a bullet with his name on it.
He deserves nothing less.

Regards
DL

There's no 'He' that can be shown that can even be considered as anything. Want to discuss an empty word that is only a placeholder for nothing?

Producing cells is not far off, if not already done.

Are you really a science writer ?

I follow science a little , I am not familiar with what you know , I very much would like to reed your source on chemistry and biochemistry.

The only thing I have against an imaginary God is imaginary blame for what he has done to imaginary victims.

Now if he were real, I do have a bullet with his name on it.
He deserves nothing less.

Regards
DL



I know today is Saturday and some people relax drinking. What have you been drinking .
Again I did not understand your sentences , If you can not make better tray Spanish or Russian

Are you really a science writer ?

I follow science a little , I am not familiar with what you know , I very much would like to reed your source on chemistry and biochemistry.

Science can be found on the internet, but don't go to Creationist web sites, for they don't do any science.

As for language 'God' seems to me like a meaningless word, such as 'xxzqbd', for it does not stand for anything known.

Israel is OK but for their made-up God stuff.

I believe each soul goes to the place they desire most when they die

Is hell a good place?

We cannot know how the first iniquity demonstrated itself but we can know that rebellion begins with questioning the status quo.

The moment God was questioned in any way, he responded with an evil punishment.
Evil as I class it in any case. He does not tolerate anyone doing their will, if it does not comply with his will. Obey or else. Not quite what scriptures say he should be doing.

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

It would seem that God let himself be overcome by evil and responded with evil. Or evil must be good. God created the first division in his once united kingdom.
It appears that God does not follow his own good advise. Or does he? If God was following his WORD, then hell must be a good place somehow.
Strange but true.

Are their any theists who would like to show how this is not back sliding?
That is of course, a rhetorical question as back sliding cannot be denied.

Was God overcome by evil?
Did God follow his literal WORD or not?
Should we?


Is hell a good place or is Gods WORD worthless since he himself ignores them and breaks his own laws?

Regards
DL

I think you need a new hobby. If you REALLY want to stir the pot post this crap on a forum that is more geared towards religion, not a science forum.

The only thing I have against an imaginary God is imaginary blame for what he has done to imaginary victims.

Now if he were real, I do have a bullet with his name on it.
He deserves nothing less.

Regards
DL

Dude seriously . Well I got more than one bullet. Bring it on

O.K. O.K. don't get your panties in a bunch . We could talk about it .

Why you want to kill god . Your circle is way to small anyway . Lets see ? There is a crank you can a-line with . He said he would kick the fuck out of Jesus if he comes back . O.K. O.K. I am trying to remember .4 cubed earth guy I think . I got to check on that . Maybe I can dig up a link

Now this guy is whacked . I don't he is going to be jumping Me though . Never know ? I had a psychotic person jump me from behind before . I fared o.k. I am here am I not .


Here you go you bosom butt buddy

http://www.timecube.com/

Crankery at its finest

Science can be found on the internet, but don't go to Creationist web sites, for they don't do any science.


U son;t go to Creationist web, I look into science U am a subscriber and a member if science journal , so far you are bluffing


Israel is OK but for their made-up God stuff.



Here is some think for you to chew If God would nor be real , there would not be Israel

hell is not an evil place, it's where evil is sent as punishment, it is probably made up of your worst fears. No one will ever know the truth of it till death though.

Hell Mi.

Hell was first settled in 1838 by George Reeves and his family. George had a wife and 7 daughters – no reason to call it Hell yet… George built a mill and a general store on the banks of a river that is now known as Hell Creek…

The mill would grind the local farmers grain into flour; George also ran a whiskey still, so a lot of times the first 7-10 bushels of grain became moonshine.

In turn, horses would come home without riders, wagons without drivers….someone would say to the wife, where is your husband?

She’d shrug her shoulders, throw up her arms and exclaim, Ahh, he’s gone to Hell!”
In 1841 when the State of Michigan came by, and asked George what he wanted to name his town, he replied, “Call it Hell for all I care, everyone else does.” So the official date of becoming Hell was October 13, 1841.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hell2u.com%2F&ei=f4BZTsWiLqn50gGKpLWjDA&usg=AFQjCNEMVEm2buSoLKcDyAR1SqJne5Dp5g

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hell_froze_sign.jpg

Hell Mi.

Hell was first settled in 1838 by George Reeves and his family. George had a wife and 7 daughters – no reason to call it Hell yet… George built a mill and a general store on the banks of a river that is now known as Hell Creek…

The mill would grind the local farmers grain into flour; George also ran a whiskey still, so a lot of times the first 7-10 bushels of grain became moonshine.

In turn, horses would come home without riders, wagons without drivers….someone would say to the wife, where is your husband?

She’d shrug her shoulders, throw up her arms and exclaim, Ahh, he’s gone to Hell!”
In 1841 when the State of Michigan came by, and asked George what he wanted to name his town, he replied, “Call it Hell for all I care, everyone else does.” So the official date of becoming Hell was October 13, 1841.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hell2u.com%2F&ei=f4BZTsWiLqn50gGKpLWjDA&usg=AFQjCNEMVEm2buSoLKcDyAR1SqJne5Dp5g

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hell_froze_sign.jpg

I knew there was a Hell

Please speak so this foreigner might understand you, in order to answer properly

If I predict some think it is not a fact until materialize ?

What do you think about Israel?

You sure are going on about Israel. I am starting to see a trend here . How bout starting a thread about the things eating at you about Israel. I am sure you will start to get your answers as many people are very opinionated about the subject of Israel

If people are in hell for doing Satan's work, then he must reward them. Maybe their punishments are also their rewards?

If people are in hell for doing Satan's work, then he must reward them. Maybe their punishments are also their rewards?



I visit maximum security penitentiary believe me there are plenty individuals who think that is hell , even they get food and shelter, many have a remorse why they did not control their emotions at the moment of the incident.

Hell Story

The Asphodel sustains the Dis dwellers, where they rest beyond that fatal river—there the wretched shades drink forgetfulness, and to oblivion sink without distress. Fireweed grows from Hell’s sulfurous embers, as does Purple Loosestrife—dead men’s fingers; but wildflower air revives the dead—and then those happy souls can thrive on earth again.

Charon was withered, wan, and skeletal, although eternally grateful for his immortal life and steady job of ferrying the dead across the River Styx in their transition from life to death to forgetfulness. As Earth was the only planet he’d come across with such promising higher life forms, Charon had grown rather fond of its inhabitants, even though he only saw but the worst of them; but, even from this he could extrapolate to the qualities of the best.

Charon did his job well, professionally, although it was ever so dreary with the endless darkness of wasted lives and the grim and gloomy skies all around, for this land always had that same gray and leaden feel. He ferried on, though, for his own life was precious to him.

The soon-to-be really really dead never said much, for what was there to tell after an empty life that had often turned to deep regret; so, Charon did not prompt them for information, for this was not the thing to do at the time of their passing, so he was always most courteous and kind to them, even to the most evil of the darkest, doing his task as well as he could. It was not that Charon was afraid that his undersized master of the underworld, Pluto, might be watching, but that he had the extreme clarity to duly serve the task at hand, a testament to his character.

Charon had been quite alarmed lately—what with the numbers of the hellish-souls-to-be climbing into the millions in such a short time, but, he had been through this kind of rush before, with the doomed and damned of other planets that had been consumed by their suns or had undergone other such catastrophes. He just used larger boats and patiently took his time, for he had all of eternity.

Of course, Charon could and did feel deep sadness, but he didn’t show it outwardly, even when the numbers from Earth increased a thousand-fold again. A few of the now billions of depressed earthling souls had enough energy left to mumble a few words and so he was able to glean from them the latest happenings on Earth. In 2012, the predicted exponential surge of melting ice from global warming had quickly inundated all of the coastal cities, many of them large centers of population and commerce. Everyone who could possibly make it had to retreat inland, creating the largest mass exodus in history.

As the heat rose to unbearable levels, many had begun living in their basements as the earth’s infrastructure began its eventual collapse. Millions eventually headed north towards Canada and siberia, but had to retreat when the ice caps totally melted and formed the great ocean of the north; most did not make it. No one but the ignored physicist mathematicians had predicted that the end could come into sight so quickly.

Then came the dreaded polar shift that made global warming seem but a small note compared to this new and darker symphony. The Earth was thrashed with storms the likes of which it had never seen; electricity was completely out all over the world, but for a few nuclear powered areas that didn’t last. No one could drive very far, even on their last tank of gas, for the roads had melted, along with the tires of the vehicles, and, if the vehicles stopped, they’d find themselves mired in the meltdown of the asphalt.

Food would no longer grow very well, even in once lush gardens, in the amounts that were needed, and, as the heat rose further, into the 140s, plant growth ceased altogether, although a new but rare and expensive form of food pill extended life for some of the rich for a short while. Charon, had, of course, seen much of this kind of thing before from the many other solar systems and galaxies on which life had formed; but earthlings seemed to have a special charm and hope above and beyond the other alien races; so he rowed and ferried and deposited them on the far shore, his job and life forever continuing in a place with no color, no joy, and no future—on the shore of the land on the edge of oblivion.

Charon had depths of compassion, but many passengers might many thought him stoic, although they were mostly beyond the capability. A sign on the opposite shore said:


Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here

Billions more arrived in the gray land all too soon and Charon learned that either madness or desperation on earth had caused a nuclear winter all over the planet, bringing on a deep freeze that few could escape. Perhaps they were trying to combat the ultimate heat, which would have been but a cool breeze in Hell. The polar shift had greatly added to the deep freeze. A few of Charon’s still speaking but chilled customers even expressed a longing for the legendary warmth of Hades.

Charon, stalwart and reliable, rowed on steadily, ever steeling himself to the misery. Finally the masses slowed and dwindled to a few dribs and drabs over a few years and then there was no one for several years.

A lone man appeared on the shore near the ferry dock and Charon readily approached the man, something he had never done before. They had a long and hearty talk, for the man was animated and not at all like any of the other wretched souls.

“How is it,” inquired Charon, “that you are full of life and seem to be a good man but have been sent here?”

“I am not a bad person in any way,” the man replied. “Actually, I just spent some time in heaven. I found out there that my sweetheart was sent here to you, for she was a suicide and so was destined here; however, I had promised to be with her forever, so I chose this place over heaven out of my love for her.”

“Extraordinary,” exclaimed Charon. “I knew the Earth had a few good men and women—I’ve not seen very many clues of that elsewhere in the universe. Did you colonize space—will your species continue and flourish after your Earth bids farewell?”

“I’m afraid not,” replied the man, for too many needless wars intervened and this greatly delayed our space program.”

“A shame,” said Charon, but is there any hope left on Earth, I mean, are there any others still about?”

“I am the last,” the man answered slowly. The first tear of Charon’s long life rolled down his cheek; nothing had ever made him cry before: nothing had ever made him weep.

(Rewritten from Lord Dunsany’s brief sketch)