If anybody even watches T.V. than you know what I'm talking about. This guy in Washington has shot 11 people and killed 9 (I think), and I heard this morning that Rumsfield has authorized use of the military to catch him. They even have one of those spy drones looking for him. Sure, I have to give him credit for hitting 9 out of 11. Wait when I write it like this: 9/11 it looks like September 11th. (gasp) Coincidence? I think so!!!

well if the police can't catch him, let someone else do it. if that's the army, fine with me! enough people have died because of this sniper-guy!

Apparently :(

Yes!!! People are getting gunned down every day almost. It is not safe for anyone to walk around. This is becoming a crisis. If this went on for a few years (which it obviously wouldn't), it would put a dent in the Washington DC population. Like a 10% loss. Hundreds of people would die. Why let people continue to get murdered? We have enough military personelle to use anyhow, that we can spare for this situation.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SEMI-SERIOUS STRING, YOU PEOPLE ARE CREEPING ME OUT!!!!

well sorry.. the title suggests a serious subject..

Originally posted by Clarentavious
Yes!!! People are getting gunned down every day almost. It is not safe for anyone to walk around. This is becoming a crisis. If this went on for a few years (which it obviously wouldn't), it would put a dent in the Washington DC population. Like a 10% loss. Hundreds of people would die. Why let people continue to get murdered? We have enough military personelle to use anyhow, that we can spare for this situation.

why yes!

anyway like claren said! this is a crisis. however weird it might seem to have
military folks on the street, they are here to help. besides he might snipe their ass and leave me alone

:)

I think they are handling this the wrong way. With the next kill just blow up the surrounding of whatever town he was :p

Well, I heard today that he was seen at the scene. He went within 40' of his victum. That he drove a van with ladder on top. That he was "olive skinned" in color (whatever that means). That they had some evidence as to license tag number.

Psychological profile has suggested that he is waiting to get caught but for the purpose of going out in a blaze of glory.

This sounds like someone you don't want to approach. Military may not be such a bad idea.

olive colored?

in my country olives are either green or dark brown/black/purple/something..

are we dealing with an alien here??

I would say calling Military technology into use in certain respects is doing a few things. The Sniper over in the US I'm sure you all know is known worldwide, and if he can just wonder around shooting whoever he wants, it undermines the whole system that you have over there.

In using the Military and their technologies, they have the chance to prove not just the use for their equipment but what it is capable of while also ridding the press of this icon they've made out of the sniper.

This is good for the guys that built and use the technology, because it proves the reason for its existance other than War.

I had wondered for many months why the face of the planet hadn't been watched with the use of satellite technology, afterall if you don't catch the terrorists/anarchists before they do their act, you have the chance to watch a replay of events from before to after and see exactly where those people went. (you can then trace them right to their door).

Perhaps this will become the future in dealing with terrorism, anarchy and crime.

olive is code for arab

arab.. ok..

They said Hispanic or Arab. What would your guess be: is the sniper (A) a Hispanic, or (B) an Arab?

Some witnesses at the last location said they saw two men, not one.

are we dealing with an alien here??
It is likely that it is an illegal alien.;)
(sorry, I know this is supposed to be a serious thread)

Yup! I said it before and saying it again, he will be arab and then he will be linked to Iraq..........and will give perfect reason to attack iraq. One witness saw a Middle eastern man in a van. I don't understand how diffcult it is to get one middle eastern man who is driving or owns a astro or just any van with a ladder on top??:o

now what makes someone look like an arab? does the guy have a moustache, a beard, a turban? is there a drawing of this guy yet?

No, no drawing. Law enforcement is just going off of eye witness accounts so far.

What gets me is that traffic in the National Capitol Region is terrible, yet this guy always gets away...even when they stop traffic on I-95. Plus, no one ever seems to see this 'white van' near the shootings after they occur. Either this guy is good, or they're giving the wrong description.

maybe there are 2 guys. one with the van, for distraction, and the other is the actual shooter.

I'm having hard time. Wasn't yesterday at school and all are accusing me of flying to Washington:rolleyes:

the thing is that my nickname is Sniper around my friends:D

Originally posted by VAKEMP
What gets me is that traffic in the National Capitol Region is terrible, yet this guy always gets away...even when they stop traffic on I-95. Plus, no one ever seems to see this 'white van' near the shootings after they occur. Either this guy is good, or they're giving the wrong description.

Or may be he is not suppose to be caught. Maybe he is in police or fbi or something. He knows when and where to strike or maybe he has some sort of agnency backing him up. He can't disapear that fast from locations. There is something fishy about it.

nothing fishy, I just think your police is incompetent:D

You silly, silly person. Avatar, you criticize the police in the National Capitol Region?

You have to realize something: The National Capitol Region is a metropolitan area with over 5 million people in it. It is densely populated, but the sniper has usually attacked in the suburbs.

So take into consideration that the area the sniper is operating in has twice the population of your whole country before you begin criticizing the police.;)

On a positive note, I am impressed with Latvia's literacy rate: 99.8%. That is very impressive. :)

c'mon - I was partially joking

and besides that isn't an excuse why one man can fuck up all your police force in capital city

he's my hero:)

I give the person/s responsible credit. They have eluded police. But, it is hard to catch someone who shoots from the vehicle if no one sees them do it. Not much evidence that way. The only time he/she/they weren't in the vehicle, it was carefully planned as to leave no unwanted evidence (only thing found was tarot card).

Still, I'd pick my heroes more wisely if I were you.

*Avatar laughs, then doors are blown open and CIA takes him away.

edit- Jackal is my hero too:)
though working for communists he is a great professional
for now he's one level higher for me than the Washington one

But I understand that it is not easy for ppl in Washington, but I still find it amusing that 1 man sends terror in 5 million people

your population is 284,796,887 . That means that you need only aprox 57 (56.95) people to strive terror in all the population of the USA!

sorry I have to be a conspiracy theorist here for a moment what if its an arab or some one like that, that the goverment will catch right before an all out war is started. maybe the goverment hired them to give reason to go to war with iraq.

no catches that he's from or funded by Iraq

Originally posted by yumyum
sorry I have to be a conspiracy theorist here for a moment what if its an arab or some one like that, that the goverment will catch right before an all out war is started. maybe the goverment hired them to give reason to go to war with iraq.


I have already said the above. Now I am just waiting it to happen. Since the witnesses did see an olive skin man.:p Now he will be iraqi and trained by them too and will give enough reasons to attack iraq.

I COUNTED THIS AS THE 6TH THREAD ON THE SNIPER ISSUE.
AS THAT ACCURATE?
DID ANYBODY GET A DIFFERENT COUNT?
IM NOT CONFUSED ENOUGH.
I THINK WE NEED MORE.

sorry I have to be a conspiracy theorist here for a moment what if its an arab or some one like that, that the goverment will catch right before an all out war is started. maybe the goverment hired them to give reason to go to war with iraq.

If you were a true conspiracy theorist you would see right thought OUR GOVENRMENTS plan. After 9-11 we lost some basic freedoms. After this sniper thing is over the gun laws will come into question and we will no longer have guns. What the US Army is doing in Maryland right now is called Martial Law. Face it people its over, were living in 1984 now.

fast-eddie your not looking at it in my perspective. The gun laws are already into debate. All its going to take is one pissed off christian to change everything into a disutopia. Were quickly becoming that anyways. Now if you would excuse me I have to go watch my Telescreen (CNN).

I heard that after he blew away that guy at the gas station, they were telling people to hide behind the gas pumps and "keep low". Now, if I'm a skilled sniper (which has yet to be seen with this guy) how come I just don't skip a shot off the pump and put it right through the hoses causing a massive explosion that would take out the surrounding people and atract even more attention to myself, that is as long as I got away. This guy is getting off on the fact that the police haven't caught him and every time he pulls the trigger, he feels that he is still going to be ale to do this and when he feels this way, he thinks is "God", that he has the power to decide who will live and who will die.

As far as I'm concerned, he isn't "God".

In the future he will be caught (well shot dead, because they darn not approach his vehicle due to not knowing what "arsenal" he has.)

Since this will occur, it is FATE, fate will be eventual, and he will not be able to escape it, no matter what he does, because he doesn't know how to escape it, and has no chance of doing so.

So as "Godly" as he thinks he is, he's bound by the mortal coil.

(Just a note on Fate:
He wanted publicity, and eventually when Justice is served, all the newspapers of the world will report it, and the quanta of all people acknowledging what happens to him will force fates hand.
Lets make sure the papers report he's stopped when he next ATTEMPTS)

Fast-Eddie
How do you dodge fate?

Hell no.....since when does the military go around to catch one killer?....oh wait...war on terrorism, so now they are sending in troops into America's cities.......

There are a couple threads on the Hollywood conspiracy behind this, and so far it's all adding up....the military isn't going to be using bombs, they will probably try to snipe the sniper.....great plot, eh...although they could've picked something more orginal, but the setting is different at least.

The military is meant to protect the country from outside problems....the police, FBI, ATF, other forces are taking care of this.......military, ha. I haven't read this thread yet, hurrying a bit, but if Bushy's administration suggested this...it's all for public approval, ratings.

Spy drones?? I don't think these are necessary, but if they got money to spend....obviously this guy isn't going anywhere far, quickly because it's hard enough to smuggle a nail clipper on a plane, let alone a gun....and if he's got an astrovan that means he's sleeping in it, if the police, FBI work real hard they could box this guy in. I don't know about the shootings but if they were all between normal hours, then he'll be traveling in the daytime........

bye

A call to ban all snipers has had little effect.
The shootings continue.

Helicopters, road blocks and the Air Force were tried.
The shootings continue.

A law to buy up all white astro vans and destroy them didn't work.
The shootings continue.

A call to ban all guns met with fierce opposition.
As the shootings continue some people yelled,

"Why ban guns, nothing else worked."
If they are right it is time to surrender.

But who do we surrender to?

The shootings
continue.

if the army is used to search for the culprits, it is investigating itself. motive: to scare the congress into backing the army war plans. simple enuf? case closed

Case not even slightly closed. You have not given a single shred of evidence, just a tinfoil-cap conspiracy theory.


when all available evidence points towards a whole army squad. the one who misses gets to peel potatoes or bang the most ugly beast or other such "military activities"...

What "evidence" points toward a whole military squad? Give us some evidence.

But I understand that it is not easy for ppl in Washington, but I still find it amusing that 1 man sends terror in 5 million people
Ok, and the Pentagon, which is in the same area, wasn't hit by an airplane?

I agree that sending the military after him/her/them is a little overboard. If this were happening in any other metropolitan area, I doubt they would send in the military. But, because there are so many influental people here, when they get scared they overreact.

I live in the area. Traffic on I-95 is bad enough on a good day. When they stop traffic to start searching for suspects, it's just ridiculous.

I'm having trouble with your mis-use of the English language, but it seems to me that you have not produced a single shred of evidence. It seems you have a crackpot theory.

fast-eddie is the sniper! I have no evidence, but I think he is! So he must be!

I will tell you that the military is not just used overseas.

Ever hear of martial law? State governors have the ability to declare martial law and send in the national guard to contain or quell uprisings of the populace.

Regular troops takes the approval to the president. Been part of reserve troops on standby to quell riots where it became to much for the national guard. Curfew is enforced, streets patroled for looters and curfew breakers. This is no military plan, this is law and has been for a long time.

...I don't get it:bugeye:

Fast-Eddie:
when all available evidence points towards a whole army squad

Fast-Eddie:
in todays USA TODAY (which I have to add the link later) police say: "evidence supports theory of SNIPER TEAM"... there is a wheel man, advance man, victim spotter, trigger man, & other cars to make sure getaway happens smoothe.

USA TODAY link provided by Fast-Eddie:
Robert Ressler, a former FBI agent who pioneered the agency's profiling techniques, says the Washington area sniper's ability to hit his victims with a single shot and escape suggests he has a "wheel man." who may also act as a victim spotter. "These are complex crimes," he says. "You can't just pull up and shoot out the window unless you're an exceptional marksman. I think he's getting out of his seat and shooting with a scope and a bipod or a rest. Someone else is driving."

Where'd you get wheel man, advance man, victim spotter, trigger man, and other cars from? You say the article sites there are at least four people involved. When I read it, I only see two. A shooter and a driver/spotter/wheel man.

It says nothing about a sniper 'squad'.

you probably have no idea how news articles are made:rolleyes:

no- they must pull atention to themselves, they must astonish and intrigue. That's their purpose and so they are made. I've seen far too many times when the name of the article has little to do with the story within or it is "overreacting":D

entirely possible

Well, fast-eddie gets my nomination as crackpot of the year. Or at least of the week.

Well, fast-eddie gets my nomination as crackpot of the year. Or at least of the week.
Damn, fast-eddie, I think that's a record! Only 28 posts, and already being nominated for crackpot of the year!:p

That would explain your previous post, and your reading comprehension.

Again, from your own referenced article:


Despite the pronoun in the Washington area sniper's infamous message to police — "I am God" — suspicion persists that the killings might be the work of more than one person.

Some witness accounts have led investigators to explore whether the sniper has an accomplice, investigators say. And police who brief reporters usually are careful to refer to the killer or killers.


overall, roughly one in five serial killers has an accomplice

...wouldn't they say accomplices if they meant more than one accomplice?

One is usually the leader — more driven to kill, often slightly older — and one the follower

...surely the are misunderstood. 1+1=2 (just in case you didn't take basic arithmetic yet, fast-eddie). This is only half of the number you said the article referred to. I'd explain how I came up with 'half', with division and all, if you need me to. But, you might not understand.

If you want to prove something, try providing a source that agrees with what you are saying. At least it won't make you look like an idiot...though some might question the credibility of the source.

but it stands to reason a team is NOT two people. a team is AT LEAST 4 people.

Where do you get this from, fast-eddie's own personal dictionary? I have yet to see a dictionary that says that the word 'team' means at least 4 people, pal.

For example:
From the American Heritage College Dictionary, Third Edition:
Team (2)- A group organized to work together.

Group (2)- Two or more...
(5.a)- A military unit consisting of two...
(5.b)- A unit or two or more...
(6.a)- Two or more...
(6.c)- ...a unit of two or more...

So, a team is a group, and a group consists or two or more. So, if your article suggests a 'team', it is not inappropriate to suggest that they mean 'two'. Especially when sniper 'teams' usually are comprised of only two people.

Plus, the article clearly explains how many people they believed are involved: two.

Now give it up!

You haven't explained anything to me, rock.

But you have proven that you are a rock.

A team is a group. In order for something to be called a group, it has to be made up of two or more of the same thing. In this instance, we are talking about a sniper team. A group of people make up the sniper team. A group, for this instance, can be defined as two or more people perticipating in the sniper shootings. The article you cite makes it clear that law enforcement assumes the sniper has an accomplice. Nowhere does it state they think there are accomplices, you retard.

This is what the article says, rock:

the Washington area sniper's ability to hit his victims with a single shot and escape suggests he has a "wheel man." who may also act as a victim spotter. "These are complex crimes," he says. "You can't just pull up and shoot out the window unless you're an exceptional marksman. I think he's getting out of his seat and shooting with a scope and a bipod or a rest. Someone else is driving."

People involved, according to the article you provide:
1. Shooter: Acts as sniper.
2. Accomplice: Acts as wheel man, spotter ("Someone else is driving" is referring to the wheel man, not 'other cars to make getaway happens smoothe', tard)

This is how you interpret it, rock:

in todays USA TODAY (which I have to add the link later) police say: "evidence supports theory of SNIPER TEAM"... there is a wheel man, advance man, victim spotter, trigger man, & other cars to make sure getaway happens smoothe.

People involved, according to how you interpret the same article:

1. Shooter: Acts as sniper.
2. Accomplice #1: Acts as wheel man.
3. Accomplice #2: Acts as advance man (WTF?!?).
4. Accomplice #3: Acts as victim spotter.
5. Accomplice #4-?: Drives "other cars to make sure getaway happens smoothe".

you just proved me right, pal!

Only if you're admitting you're either 10 years old, or retarded.:p

cuz dis cat postin 100% pure us army line, tryin ta bend the truth about a "cover story" witch we know is 100% bull &&& we know the shots came outta buildins with silencer & special apparatus built into the room for the cats ta lay on & nobody can see em cuz they're too far in the room. jus sos bushbaby can sign away all our dough to VACHUMPS & nobody'll tawk 'bout it. & sos another L.H. Muhammed army cat gotta burn. burnin yer own is purty sad dontcha think

r u a stupard? &&&&cats stank funny. i luv muh sista n dat way.. u know wut i meant???

The article you referenced was correct, fast-eddie! They've arrested TWO people. Too bad your analytical skills aren't very good, though.:mad: I don't know where you came up with a whole friggin' army squad.:bugeye:

BTW, I enjoy watching you make an a** of yourself.:D And, to clarify, I'm laughing AT you, not WITH you.

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LOL!

You manipulated my words, but it's funny!