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View Full Version : Is "Xev" fit to be a moderator?
WildBlueYonder 04-09-04, 12:32 AM I think that as a "moderator", Xev continues to act her childish self, I think that her cussing & taunting should at a minimum result in her losing this position. She acts like a child, not an adult, therefore, why should she have adult responsibilities? Banish her to the masses of Sciforums, like the rest of us. Let some more mature person take the reins.
Is she moderate, is she fair & balanced?
Originally Posted by Xev
paulsamuel:
I am indeed a racist. This is pretty much the only thing you've gotten right about me so far.
I am also, to a degree, a racial seperatist.
What is your point? Please post one.
Also, as a moderator I'd ask you not to cross post, and not to attempt to stir up flame wars.
Again, I ask the question:
as a self-described racist, are you fit to moderate an open forum? how do you make choices? can a racist be open-minded &/or fair?
sargentlard 04-09-04, 12:54 AM The views and opinions she holds do not matter seeing as she does not bring them into use when moderating. If she kept that information to herself would it be better than for you? Also she does not have the ability to see who is white or black when moderating even is she was a KKK member of the month.
Also to what is the degree of her racist beliefs? She does not seem like a racist who hates by assciation or out of sheer ignorance?
As a moderator of an internet forum where physical identities do not matter I doubt she moderates with ill will towards certain races.
Also
I like diversity. Unlike the cocksuckers who celebrate diversity, I actually think that diversity is a good thing.
And for diversity to exist, distinction is necessary.
Did you even attempt to understand what she really means when she proclaims she is a racist?
Now give us real reasons to ban her.
WildBlueYonder 04-09-04, 01:15 AM The views and opinions she holds do not matter seeing as she does not bring them into use when moderating. If she kept that information to herself would it be better than for you? Also she does not have the ability to see who is white or black when moderating even is she was a KKK member of the month.
Also to what is the degree of her racist beliefs? She does not seem like a racist who hates by assciation or out of sheer ignorance?
As a moderator of an internet forum where physical identities do not matter I doubt she moderates with ill will towards certain races.
Also
Did you even attempt to understand what she really means when she proclaims she is a racist?
Now give us real reasons to ban her.
so, a self-proclaimed racist isn't enough for you?
also, please re-read my post, I did not suggest banning, only that she is not fit to be a moderator, so that she loses that position
sargentlard 04-09-04, 01:19 AM But why? She does not go around celebrating this fact.
Also what is your definition of a racist in the context of this thread? She isn't your usual racist IMO.
CounslerCoffee 04-09-04, 01:31 AM I don't like black people either, so what's your point? :p
Racists are people too.
If she keeps it out of her moderation, why worry?
Additionally, it has long been decided that her "childish self" isn't enough to unseat her.
I'd swear we've been through this before.
Dr Lou Natic 04-09-04, 01:39 AM Plenty of the moderators are specists but i don't see anyone kicking up a stink about that.
CounslerCoffee 04-09-04, 01:39 AM I'd swear we've been through this before.
I feel like I've been thrown through a time-warp, Rocky Horror Picture Show style.
spuriousmonkey 04-09-04, 05:54 AM But why? She does not go around celebrating this fact.
yes she does. Just read the quote.
tablariddim 04-09-04, 07:59 AM Everybody is racist, elitist or separatist to a degree, but not everybody is astute enough or indeed honest enough, to admit it.
spuriousmonkey 04-09-04, 08:15 AM No, not everybody is a racist.
Also racism is against the law in many civilized countries.
spuriousmonkey:
Also racism is against the law in many civilized countries.
A society that legislates the personal opinions of its citizens cannot be termed "civilized". To that end, the ability of a democracy to tolerete and even celebrate opinions contrary to popular belief is one of democracy's strengths.
But how would you know? An authoritarian hiding under a democratic system too decent to shove you into the ovens. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I love these threads.
Also racism is against the law in many civilized countries.
Which begs the question 'is Sciforums a civilized country?', which draws us to the more important question of 'who gives a shit?' I tend to doubt Xev will abuse her moderator powers becaue of her self-confessed racial attitude. If anything, she will abuse that power because she's a ruthless bitch. ;)
Who here IS fit to be a moderator?
What so-called 'credentials' should one possess to be qualified as a moderator?
Xev and I have had our differences, many differences. However, I've never seen her discriminate against another member because of their race. She discriminates for other reasons :p.
She admits to being a racist? So what? At least she admits it. At least she's honest enough to admit it. From what I've seen she only admits to being a purist (sp?) and wants to preserve the pure breed, regardless of the ethnicity of the breed. Other members on here discriminate against others because of their ethnicity, and it is they who should be classified as being racist in the true form.
There is a vast difference between wanting to maintain the diversity amongst the masses and discriminating because of ones ethnicity, breed or colour. Would one even classify the wanting to preserve the diversity of each group as a racist? One wouldn't think so.
ElectricFetus 04-09-04, 01:11 PM Why is there not a poll for this???
There should be three questions:
Yes Xev is not worthy of being a moderator (impeach Xex)
Yes Xev is a wacko, but still a OK moderator (Do no impeach Xev)
No Xev is alright as a person and moderator (Do not impeach Xev)
present your evidence for impeaching her, I advice much more then what you have now.
WildBlueYonder 04-09-04, 08:38 PM I don't like black people either, so what's your point?
Four points:
1) racists should not moderate open forums, their judgement is in question, will they ban, edit, delete stuff they don't aagree with? will they hold others to different standards?
2) you should not be a moderator either
3) if all the moderators are racist here, that would qualify Sciforums as a "HATE" site
4) we're all black to begin with, just some are more mutated than others :-)
Anomonimity does not negate responsibility, hiding behind your 'nom de Net" does not abrogate civility, so, ask yourself, if you feel comfortable telling all your black co-workers your true feelings? No? or do you hide behind a hood?
I wonder if many blacks feel welcome here at Sciforums?
WANDERER 04-09-04, 08:45 PM I think we should ban all haters.
Let's start with those that hate racists and go from there.
But then that would leave nobody....
:p
I, personally, support the banishment of Xev.
She clearly displayed a prejudice against peacocks once to me and all birds with beautiful colorful plumage.
She obviously has a problem with all color.
We need colorblind moderators.
On a serious note.
See the biggest problem with Democracy is that it gives morons a vote.
Next thing we’ll see is a complete an utter idiot holding office…..wait…..that already happened. :eek:
WildBlueYonder 04-09-04, 09:07 PM I think we should ban all haters.
Let's start with those that hate racists and go from there.
But then that would leave nobody....
racism is hate, why do you defend it?
WANDERER:
I, personally, support the banishment of Xev.
I counter-propose that I be let off with a spanking.
She clearly displayed a prejudice against peacocks once to me and all birds with beautiful colorful plumage.
The entity calling itself "Wanderer" has repeatedly made racist, incendiary and misanthropic remarks that may have hurt somone's feelings at some point. It is obvious that Wanderer is a vile, elitist scumbag and should be banned from sciforums forever. Besides, he makes the baby jesus cry.
Randolfo:
1) racists should not moderate open forums, their judgement is in question, will they ban, edit, delete stuff they don't aagree with? will they hold others to different standards?
How is the judgement of a racist automatically in question?
2) you should not be a moderator either
Correct. I propose that Wanderer be made Grand Imperial Poo-Bah of the Universe.
3) if all the moderators are racist here, that would qualify Sciforums as a "HATE" site
Explain how racism equals hate?
I am a racist. One of my earliest friends was African American, and I've had several very fertile friendships with Asiatics. This would all be very difficult had I hated any of them for their race.
I am an elitist, and elitism quite the opposite of bigotry. I am a racist, but this does not imply that I despise anyone for the simple fact of their race. If anything, elitism is quite inclusive - if one is up to snuff, then one is accepted regardless of race.
4) we're all black to begin with, just some are more mutated than others :-)
Not in the modern sense of "black"
racism is hate, why do you defend it?
What's wrong with hatred?
Rappaccini 04-09-04, 09:35 PM racism is hate, why do you defend it?
No, not necessarily.
It is usually used that way by brainwashed simpletons who should be crucified.
Of course, by hate, you don't mean HATRED.
"Discrimination or prejudice," what you refer to as hate, is the secondary definition:
dictionary.com on "racism" (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism)
Xev can't "discriminate" anyhow. She can't tell you're race from your posts.
Even if she could, which would be astonishing, her behavior as a moderator indicates that she doesn't.
Randolfo, are you truely saying that you love every group of people on the planet?
Do you like all races equally? Do you like people who have committed crimes? Do you like gays? Do you like old people the same as young? I doubt that all of these are yes... for anyone. You have preferences, whether you admit it or not. Unless someone is moderating on this basis, drop it.
Rappaccini 04-09-04, 09:42 PM Persol, he believes in Our Lord Christ, Jesus, Our Savior, May He Live Forever.
He loves everybody... except the gays and the Muslims; they aren't people.
I counter-propose that I be let off with a spanking.
*smiles*
Rappaccini:
Persol, he believes in Our Lord Christ, Jesus, Our Savior, May He Live Forever.
Ha! You mean Jesus aka the bastard son of a diety and a teenage mother aka Jim "Would somebody get this guy a band-aid?!" Cazeviel?
Happy Good Friday.
Jesus... may he live foreverDoesn't the 'live forever' part kind of defeat the purpose?Or was this the surprise ending of 'The Passion'? ;)
WANDERER 04-09-04, 10:00 PM Xev
I counter-propose that I be let off with a spanking.
I volunteer to administer the punishment.
The entity calling itself "Wanderer" has repeatedly made racist, incendiary and misanthropic remarks that may have hurt somone's feelings at some point. It is obvious that Wanderer is a vile, elitist scumbag and should be banned from sciforums forever. Besides, he makes the baby jesus cry.
All true but I’m not a moderator.
Hey...Jesus asked for it.
Correct. I propose that Wanderer be made Grand Imperial Poo-Bah of the Universe.
I second that.
Randolfo
racism is hate, why do you defend it?
Who’s defending racism?
I propose that all haters should be flogged.
Starting with those that hate haters.
The moment you start discriminating between haters then what are you?
Prejudice.
Persol
Randolfo, are you truely saying that you love every group of people on the planet?
Do you like all races equally? Do you like people who have committed crimes? Do you like gays? Do you like old people the same as young? I doubt that all of these are yes... for anyone. You have preferences, whether you admit it or not. Unless someone is moderating on this basis, drop it.
There’s nothing I hate more than someone that pretends he loves everything.
What bigger haters than Christian ones. Only they’ve convinced themselves otherwise.
Now what’s more disgusting than a hypocrite?
A hypocrite that believes his own bullshit. They become dangerous out of blind conviction.
Kill them all.
Then banish me for hating them.
I believe we have other reasons for banishing you... but you are entertaining.
No, hating haters does not make you a hater. It makes you a hating haters hater of haters. Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot with Son and Holy Ghost.
Rappaccini 04-09-04, 10:07 PM Doesn't the 'live forever' part kind of defeat the purpose?Or was this the surprise ending of 'The Passion'? ;)
You will not question THE WORD!
Hold on, let me go shake my buddy jesus holding an 8-ball.
"Are you alive or dead"
"Possibly"
...stupid buddy jesus...
Rappaccini 04-09-04, 10:17 PM Buddy Jesus, should "'Xev'" be a moderator?
Wow! It's a miracle. His eyes started bleeding and he stuck his middle finger up.
If that isn't support for Xev I don't know what is.
Wanderer:
I volunteer to administer the punishment.
Only if you exhibit the requisite power and grace
All true but I’m not a moderator.
You don't have tits. You don't get away with things. Sucks to be you.
Persol:
Doesn't the 'live forever' part kind of defeat the purpose?Or was this the surprise ending of 'The Passion'?
No, the suprise ending is when Jesus turns out to be a composite of figures from other myths and religions and not a historical figure at all...oh wait.
-
Wonderful. Now let's see buddy jesus get me a bourbon and fetch winning lotto numbers.
Asshole. No wonder they crucified him.
Randolfo
I wonder if many blacks feel welcome here at Sciforums?
Why don't you ask one? If you can pick one from the crowd that is. You should PM every poster in here and ask them if they're black. It'd be interesting to read the replies you would get in return.
And I'd like to ask you if you make any Muslims and gays welcome here since we've all been privy to your attitude towards them. If they were deemed a race of people, you'd definitely be classified as a racist. Which begs the question, why are YOU even tolerated on here since you're apt to hate so much? Good you're not a moderator huh?
Wanderer
Next thing we’ll see is a complete an utter idiot holding office…..wait…..that already happened.
Heh..
Ozymandias 04-09-04, 10:48 PM At least she's assertive, eh?
Rappaccini 04-09-04, 11:03 PM Yeah, she's got power in the bag... but whatever happened to the grace?
but whatever happened to the grace?
Jagermeister and death metal.
CounslerCoffee 04-09-04, 11:42 PM 2) you should not be a moderator either
3) if all the moderators are racist here, that would qualify Sciforums as a "HATE" site
How do you know I'm not black? Maybe I should start talking like a black person? Or is that stereotyping. Yo niggaz, I be bling-blingin' it for all of us, fo' sure. Fuck that and your backwards ideology.
I wonder if many blacks feel welcome here at Sciforums?
I wonder if anyone cares? Do I type like a black person or a white person? How the hell do you know and why the hell do you care?
I wonder if anyone cares? Do I type like a black person or a white person? How the hell do you know and why the hell do you care?
He'd care because then he can be a hypocrite and not discriminate against them. Giving him more time and energy to discriminate against Muslims and Gays. I think there's a method to his madness. I'd just like to see his reaction to a black Muslim or Gay individual. He'd defend their colour (because it's bad to hate) but discriminate against them for being Muslim or Gay (because to him its ok to hate Muslims and Gays).
CounslerCoffee 04-10-04, 02:01 AM Okay, gotcha', Bells. I understand completely now.
But how does Randolfo know I’m not gay? The only person who knows my sexual orientation on this website is, well, no one. I’ve never said whether or not I’ve liked dudes. Does me being gay interfere with me being a mod? And if I happened to be Muslim, would that interfere with me being a mod? I guess he wants a straight white male atheist to be a moderator?
On the other hand, let me fill you in on what I am: I’m a black gay Muslim male. Just kidding. Praise Allah, dawg.
On the other hand, let me fill you in on what I am: I’m a black gay Muslim male. Just kidding. Praise Allah, dawg.
Heh!
we'll probably see him start a thread saying to ban you as a moderator... not because you're black but because you're gay and muslim. After all, one must choose who to hate and since he hates 2 out of the 3.. well off you go :p
CounslerCoffee 04-10-04, 04:52 AM Gay I ain't, Muslim I ain't. If I could describe myself in two words, it'd be insomniac and alcoholic.
Grand Dragon Gizzard:
Yo niggaz, I be bling-blingin' it for all of us, fo' sure. Fuck that and your backwards ideology.
Don't talk like that, Gizzard. The white race needs you fo' sure!
CounslerCoffee 04-10-04, 08:32 AM My sincerest apologies. The white race is a proud race and should remain one, fo' sure.
-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard
cosmictraveler 04-10-04, 09:06 AM I thought we all belong to the human race and are made up of different ethnic heritages.
Depends on your definition. I'd say we belong to the same species, but different ethnic races.
Oh. Another one of these threads. I think this is about the 77537th one so far.
Bottom line. Xev's credibility has been disputed before. We've been through this before. But what kind of bullshit is this? Who says this forum is run in a democratic fashion?
There is only one person who has any say in how this forum is run. That's Porfiry. The rest of you are here through his good graces (the money to support this forum, and including this stupid thread, comes out of his pocket), and the moderators are merely empowered to do what they do because Porfiry decided to give them power(don't be fooled by the 'voting process' ... he's the one who makes the decisions, not you). It logically follows that the only one who can take away the moderator powers or ban someone is Porfiry.
Don't complain to us. Complain to Porfiry. Moron.
-- Long live the Female Messiah!
Hastein 04-10-04, 09:23 PM Depends on your definition. I'd say we belong to the same species, but different ethnic races.
Ethnic races? Ethnicity is your heritage. A Brit is not a different race than a German. Then again, the whole question of racial reality comes into question, which I am still studying.
Porfiry 04-10-04, 10:18 PM This thread needs a poll.
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