I tried finding a thread on this somewhere in the distant posts, I wasn't able to locate anything. If someone knows of a few please post the links here, as for the topic of my thread it's simple, is freedom real? I wonder if you'll choose yes or no, if you choose either are you really free? I mean I did ask you TO decide right? Would not choosing mean you're free? How about going to work everyday does that make you free? Of course you can always not go but then you'd owe money, so is that really being free? Humm someone mentioned if you had no home and no money you would be breaking the law merely by existing (because you are on public property not residential)... what do you say to that? Can homeless live on the street or in a park and not be breaking any laws? Are they free? Isn't freedom being able to live anywhere you like? Is freedom buying merchandise off shelves and paying money for it? Wouldn't freedom be taking the stuff? Are people in jail free? If they aren't free didn't we take away their rights as people? How can they be free if we did that? Technically they would only be free if they were dropped off on an island like in Escape From L.A. or N.Y..... Got your interest yet? So let's say you are free but not free to violate others rights, you can grasp that can't you? So presume you're doing something like walking across government property, say you wandered into Area 51.. they can detain you... so were you free? Is freedom absolute or nothing-at-all? Does NEEDING money to survive mean you are free? What is freedom? I would say freedom is anything that doesn't interfere with someone elses ability to be free. Describe what you think freedom is then if my definition isn't to your liking.
The more you are dependent on working, the less independent you are. For example, I am dependent to the extent that have to bend over for Papa John every weekend for the scrap that allows me to afford to survive. Meanwhile others are characterized by a huge dependency on their job. Pretty much everybody at my job are willing to take crap from the management out of fear of being fired. That is a dependency. The less tied you are to the company you work for, the more independent you are. To be truly free and independent is to wake up every single morning, and say I have abundantly have everything I could ever want and need, and I don't 'have' to lift a finger for those crackers for the rest of my life. Or even better to say the same thing, and say that I have everything I need, and I am able to provide for my friends and family an abundant lifestyle so they never 'have' to ever lift a finger for anybody for the rest of their life. True independence. I have have lots of abundance, I am able to provide my loved ones with lots of abundance, and the system can kiss my ass. Having lots of money is not the answer. The point is to have lots of money, and the ability to manage the money to perpetuate an abundant lifestyle for yourself and loved ones. You have enough freedom to choose to buy cars and mansions, but that does not mean you will choose to buy cars and mansions. To have lots of money, the ability to manage lots of money, and use this money and money management to create a lifestyle for yourself that you find fulfilling. Not to create a false sense of fulfillment by buying mansions and cars.
What would I do? First, I would figure out a way to minimize my dealings with the system and the idiots that control the system. To be as independent as possible from the system without sacrificing an inch of what I would consider a fulfilling abundant lifestyle. Do I consider large mansions and cars to be a fulfilling and abundant lifestyle? Not in the slightest. I want to simply have the following: A land with all the great facilities with everything I need to support myself and as many people as I can without the least possible dependence on the system or anybody that supports the system. 1. Land. 2. Beautiful living facilities. 3. Facilities for physical fitness practices. Physical development, meditation, etc. 4. Healthy food products. 5. Clean clothes,, and all the necessities. 6. Performing regularly. 7. Meeting lots of hoes. 8. Freedom to write pretty much every day.
The poll is ambigous. Is this a philosophical question (ie does freedom by a certain definition exist or it doesn't) or is it a political question (ie do we really have freedom?)? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I agree. If a person is on a deserted island in the Pacific Ocean, with no one anywhere telling him what to do, is he "free"? Oh, sure, he's "free" by virtue of being able to do or try anything he wants. But then ...what if there's no food or water on the island? Is he still "free" until he dies of thirst? Free from, or of, what? And that's really the bigger question. Baron Max
Ya see, you are all clueless, freedom is real but it's not absolute right now. The moment people stop letting governments and police rule the world + lawyers then we'll have true freedom Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
So ...you'd rather let gangs of vicous killers and druggies roam the streets at will, doing whatever they want to feel free? And what of others, or their victims? Baron Max
No I don't wanna let that happen, you wear smartie pants ehh Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
As much as I would so much love to live your life of being in gay girlie fear, I really see no point. What if this and what if that? What if a hurricaine comes, and blows your head off of your shoulder? Better go hide under your bed, and live there forever.
The world is ruled by the plutocracy. They control the economy. This has not been a free economy for many years. The economy is very controlled. The media is very controlled. True enough Americans are free in the sense that they do not have shackles on their wrists, and are not physically bought and sold. However, the plutocracy controls the economy according to their standards of how things should be. Not according to American standards. The media is used to influence the public into thinking whatever the plutocracy wants us to think. It is beneficial to the plutocracy to influence Americans into the attitude of "I work and 'earn' my living, and I am proud of it". This keeps Americans in the mindset of being nothing more than mindless worker drones.
What then is the lexical tag associated with the state of not being free? Also, from whom or what is one "earning" one's freedom?
