View Full Version : Is Creation Done? or is this Day 8?


PsychoticEpisode
03-25-06, 09:05 PM
Is the universe still under construction? Seeing how God saw that everything was good I'm assuming He had finished the job. But the universe is expanding, stars are still being formed and life here has changed since He took Sunday off. So did He actually build it or did He just throw some energy out there and let nature take its course.

Perhaps someone can enlighten me... did God take day 7 off after the first sin or what? Even after disclosing that everything was good before His break, why isn't it? He didn't lie to us or make a mistake did He? I don't think God should go around saying everything is good and then try to fix things.

This must be Day 8, the day to correct mistakes or tweak things a bit. If creation is done then just leave it alone, wasn't it supposed to be perfect? How can you improve upon that?

Poincare's Stepchild
03-25-06, 09:14 PM
So...

On the eighth day, God went back to work?

PsychoticEpisode
03-25-06, 09:32 PM
Doing what? If everything was perfect what the hell can one do? Start tearing it down??

seekeroftheway
03-25-06, 10:39 PM
God doesn't need to tear anything down, we're doing it for him.

PsychoticEpisode
03-25-06, 10:56 PM
I'm talking the whole she-bang. I'm not out there creating black holes or throwing asteroids and comets around. On a universal scale our little corner of creation is a mere dimple on a pimple on a sand flea's nut, insignificant. What we do hardly matters.

My question still remains, what day is it in the biblical sense? Is it still Sunday and God is stretched out on the heavenly sofa? Why does the bible stop at Day 7? Seems to me that the Earth and everything in the universe was once perfect. It seems however that heaven was not. It got so bad up there that God dumped his biggest problem, good ol' Lucifer, on us. Now I have serious doubts as to the perfection of heaven although it may be fine now since the extermination.

c7ityi_
03-26-06, 07:33 AM
all days happen at once. days don't mean days. days mean light, ligt mean ocnsciouness.

so like...

god created heavens and the earth in seven stages.

earth means matter, the lowest form of consciousness, and heaven is the highest spiritual state.

everything is alive and life is made of consciousness.

time can't have a beginning, time can't start somewhere 'in time', niehter can the universe.

instead, creation is like a constant signal and the world is created in the presence. each moment a bit different

getti?

PsychoticEpisode
03-26-06, 08:58 PM
getti?

FSM...is this a sign?

Anyway, when does God's day off end? Days one to six had a beginning and an end in your timeless universe so when? Why is the seventh day even mentioned, it has no signifigance with the actual construction.

TheVisitor
03-26-06, 09:10 PM
Yes, there is a type for an eighth day........
We go back into eternity, turn an 8 on it's side...it's the symbol of infinity.
This is from a message delivered by William Branham in 1965.
Transcribed verbatum from a taped recording.

"Remember here not long ago, I was teaching you on the Seven Trumpets, the Feast of Trumpets and so forth? And I said, "There is an eighth day festival." So the seventh day would be the last; that would be the millennium. But there is an eighth day festival, which if it was the eighth, and there's only seven days, would make it the first day again--come right back to the first day. Then after the millennium is over, then there will be an established Eden again. God's great Kingdom will be taken back, because Jesus fought it out with Satan in the Garden of Gethsemane, and won back the Eden, which He's gone to prepare in heaven to return again."

From the bible;
LEVITICUS 23:36
36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it [is] a solemn assembly; [and] ye shall do no servile work [therein].

PsychoticEpisode
03-26-06, 10:12 PM
Oh I see, the demolition phase has been put on hold and the renovators are moving in. Friggin' red tape probably holding things up. Let's start the rebuilding of Eden by cooking a few animals. If the first Eden could be built before there were any burnt offerings to offer then why now? Geezus....the costs for rebuilding are getting unrealistic.

TheVisitor
03-26-06, 11:52 PM
If the first Eden could be built before there were any burnt offerings to offer then why now?.

Refering to the rebuilding of the Jewish temple...?
If it's in the word it has to come to pass...there is a reason.

Sarkus
03-27-06, 08:47 AM
So did God only get a 1-day weekend?
Bummer!

And what hours does he usually work? I hope he gets overtime. :(


"On the eighth day machine just got upset.
A problem man had not forseen as yet.
No time for flight,
A blinding light,
Then nothing but a void, forever night." Hazel O'Connor - "Eighth Day"
:D

MadMaxReborn
03-27-06, 10:46 AM
The one aspect of that question that I like, is that it doesn't limit the "creation" to an actual 7 (or 8) days, but recognizes that a day might not be a day, which is a common attack by "non-believers" against believers, citing scientific evidence for an earth much older than a few thousand years.

If I were to make a creative interpretation of the bible, I would say that on days 1-6 God has actually touched the world. Likewise, on day 7 God, "by resting," has refrained from touching the world. God created the rules of nature that we preceive within the first 6 days, and then lets the world play out according to those rules.

Just thinking here, but it would also be creative interpretation to say that (for Christianity) God had to place Jesus on Earth as His "representative," because it is still the 7th day and he is refraining from touching the world.

An interesting thought nonetheless.

Max

Medicine*Woman
03-27-06, 12:02 PM
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M*W: First, let me reiterate that I am an atheist, and what I am about to write should be taken allegorically and not literally. ~ Medicine*Woman

Life on Earth is still in the sixth day of creation, mythologically speaking, meaning that the human race is still in the process of being created. I like to think that we are in the process of gradual 'upgrading', for example. In other words, we're not finished, yet. In the past 30,000 to 35,000 years, we have made a lot of progress. We've added protein to our diets and grew bigger brains. We've gone from making the first stone arrowheads to pursue the hunt, and we've created rocket science to conquer the final frontier. In the past 100 years alone, we have achieved the equivalent of 22,000 years of technological advances! And, not only that, we've gotten better looking, too! We became less hairy and eventually created clothing. We have better much better posture than our humped over ancestors, and of course, the clothing we created looked much better on those with erect posture. Standing more erect, we seemed to grow taller.

As far as our continuing creation goes, we're conquering diseases and learning how to extend life. We're living longer. We're healthier than we've ever been. We can create life in a test tube, and we can extend life with the regeneration of our own cells.

We have a future that is hopeful, and we know that our dreams really do come true. I call this process 'evolution,' but you may call it 'God.' If there was a god who created us, he left a mess for us to clean-up. If we evolved from where we were to where we are, then it's quite possible humankind is god, and we are still in the last 'day' of creation.

There is still a long way for us to go before the seventh day of rest. Then the question arises, "whom shall rest?" Will we have achieved our perfect creation? Will we have found the secret to eternal life? Will male and female become one perfect eternal being? Will we have conquered the rest of the universe? When we reach the seventh day, there will be no god who rests, for the concept of god will have become a myth long forgotten for thousands of years in the past. It will be humanity who rests.

The Devil Inside
03-27-06, 12:06 PM
traditional jewish thought (the six day creation cycle) states that creation will never end. that is why i believe in evolution (not considering the MOUNDS of evidence for it).

MadMaxReborn
03-27-06, 12:21 PM
If there was a god who created us, he left a mess for us to clean-up.

I hate to attack simple statements within a long response, because by doing so it often misses the entire point of the response; But

I don't agree with that at all.

If there is a mess, we are unable to clean it up. There is no point in trying. But beside that, if there was a mess, I don't think that we could see it, because the concept of a mess and "clean-up" implies that there was a period of clean (for which we could have never observed). And we don't have the ability to place things in such a way that they are now in order, because we don't know what that order is. We would just be rearranging the clutter.

I state this because it is a sentence without logic, and we all know that atheists pride themselves on logical thinking (as opposed to those illogical religious people). But please don't take this as a personal attack, because it was not my intention; this is just a generalization of human separation within a group.

Max

PsychoticEpisode
03-27-06, 06:00 PM
Just thinking here, but it would also be creative interpretation to say that (for Christianity) God had to place Jesus on Earth as His "representative," because it is still the 7th day and he is refraining from touching the world.

An interesting thought nonetheless.

Max

He personally may be refraining, but by putting Christ together and plunking him down in our midst isn't exactly resting and like it or not He is touching the world.

Is creation finished or not? If God is resting then it must be so. Slapping Christ together on day 7 is a creation no matter how you look at it.

lixluke
03-27-06, 06:49 PM
"Creation" took 7 days including the 7th day of rest. The 8th day is the first day of post creation. The thought occurs to me that if creation had taken 8 days, and the 8th day was the day of rest, our weeks would be totally different. Therefore, our lives would be totally different. It's interesting how much influence the 7-day week places on society.


On day 6, Jesus created animals.
Genisis 1:24
God said, "Let the land produce all kinds of living creatures. Let there be livestock, and creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals. Let there be all kinds of them." And that's exactly what happened.


He also created humans.
Genisis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our likeness. . ."


It is clear that on day 7, creation was complete. Jesus was not resting so that he could be ready for day 8 to continue his construction. The universe is no longer under construction. He built it completely within those 7 days. He did not just throw some energy out there, so that the universe could continue building itself after the 7th day. The 7th day of rest marked the final day of creation. The universe was officially created.

Genesis 2:1 / 2:2
So the heavens and the earth and everything in them were completed. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing. So on the seventh day he rested from all of his work.

Genesis 2:3
. . .After he had created everything, he rested from all of the work he had done.

Sarkus
03-28-06, 04:44 AM
"Creation" took 7 days including the 7th day of rest. The 8th day is the first day of post creation. The thought occurs to me that if creation had taken 8 days, and the 8th day was the day of rest, our weeks would be totally different. Therefore, our lives would be totally different. It's interesting how much influence the 7-day week places on society.But which came first - the 7-day week or the Bible indicating that we should have a 7-day week?

If God rested on the 8th day after 7 days of toil it was probably because the current society at the time of writing the myth/legend/Bible probably already had an 8-day week.

God did not influence the days in a week - but the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe/world etc.

If you had a 4 day week, for example, with every 4th day being a day of rest, why would you write about a 7-day week with only every 7th day being a day of rest?

The origins of the 7-day week are possibly due to the Babylonians - around a loooong time before Christianity etc. They had a day of the week for their 7 deities associated with the observable heavenly bodies: Mars, Moon, Sun, Jupiter, Mercury, Venus and Saturn.

lixluke
03-28-06, 02:24 PM
God did not influence the days in a week - but the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe/world etc.
1.
If it is a given that Jesus created the universe in 7 days,
and
If it is a given that our 7-day week is based on that 7-day creation,
then
The days in a week did not influence how God created the universe.
Therefore, your presumption, "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" is false.


2.
If it is a given that the 7-day week is based on Babylonian myth,
and
If it is a given that somebody made up a false story about how God created the universe in 7 days,
and
If the 7 days in the false story is based on the already existing 7-day week based on Babylonian myth.
then
God/Jesus did not really create the universe.
Therefore, the days in a week could not have influence how God created the universe.
Therefore, your presumption, "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" is false.

Medicine*Woman
03-28-06, 03:45 PM
I hate to attack simple statements within a long response, because by doing so it often misses the entire point of the response; But I don't agree with that at all.

If there is a mess, we are unable to clean it up. There is no point in trying. But beside that, if there was a mess, I don't think that we could see it, because the concept of a mess and "clean-up" implies that there was a period of clean (for which we could have never observed). And we don't have the ability to place things in such a way that they are now in order, because we don't know what that order is. We would just be rearranging the clutter.

I state this because it is a sentence without logic, and we all know that atheists pride themselves on logical thinking (as opposed to those illogical religious people). But please don't take this as a personal attack, because it was not my intention; this is just a generalization of human separation within a group.

Max

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M*W: Thanks for your response, and I take no offense. Perhaps I did make simple metaphorical statements, and that was my intention. When you get too deep into philosophy, most people lose interest or ignore it. I'm guilty of that, too.

The metaphorical "mess" I was referring to includes everything from the natural lifespan of the common fruit fly in Honduras to coping with anti-gravitational inertia failure in inflatable NASA Dacron space suits lined with inflammable memory foam 20,000 miles out in orbit. Who cares? My point is that I just made that crap up to show simplicity is a better way to communicate.

The real "mess" the world is in is our doing, and we will have to be the ones to clean it up. Although we are billions of days late and billions of dollars short, we are more aware now of how to reverse the damage we've done to our planet, if that is even possible. Whether it's our back yards that need raking or the preservation of the rain forests, it is up to us. No god will fix these things -- only humans.

You're right. We may not be able to rearrange the order of certain things like the solar system or atomic fusion, but we can stop ourselves from dropping another big one, and hopefully our race has reached a certain point in tactful diplomacy so the big one won't get dropped on us. At least our government would like us to think so.

The more "mature" humanity becomes, and I do have hope that we will mature as a species, I foresee one world with one people united for the betterment of our own good. Diversity may be good for some things, but for the outcome of the bigger picture, it isn't helping to clean up some of the mess. The idea is to become one, globally thriving, boundary-free society. My viewpoint is not Socialistic or Communistic. I'm a humanist. All for one -- One for all.

Sarkus
03-29-06, 04:16 AM
1.
If it is a given that Jesus created the universe in 7 days,
and
If it is a given that our 7-day week is based on that 7-day creation,
then
The days in a week did not influence how God created the universe.
Therefore, your presumption, "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" is false.It is NOT a given that Jesus or even God created the universe.
Evidence for existence of God, please?

2.
If it is a given that the 7-day week is based on Babylonian myth,
and
If it is a given that somebody made up a false story about how God created the universe in 7 days,
and
If the 7 days in the false story is based on the already existing 7-day week based on Babylonian myth.
then
God/Jesus did not really create the universe.
Therefore, the days in a week could not have influence how God created the universe.
Therefore, your presumption, "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" is false.When I said "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" the key word is supposedly - i.e. how the BIBLE tells us that God created the universe.

I do not at any point make the claim or assumption that God actually exists.
God supposedly did and does many things - but there remains ZERO evidence for the existence of this God.

If it will make it clearer for you: "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"

I do hope this clears things up for you?

The Devil Inside
03-29-06, 04:19 AM
It is NOT a given that Jesus or even God created the universe.
Evidence for existence of God, please?

When I said "the days in a week influenced how God supposedly created the universe" the key word is supposedly - i.e. how the BIBLE tells us that God created the universe.

I do not at any point make the claim or assumption that God actually exists.
God supposedly did and does many things - but there remains ZERO evidence for the existence of this God.

If it will make it clearer for you: "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"

I do hope this clears things up for you?

by making such statements, he was just being needlessly asinine.
i believe in g-d, but i dont require you to in order to talk about these things. please, continue your point :)

lixluke
03-29-06, 07:54 AM
It is NOT a given that Jesus or even God created the universe.
Evidence for existence of God, please?

What are you talking about, I never provided any given conclusions.
I simply stated:
If X,
and
If Y,
then
Z

Key word "if". "If" these were a given, your statement would be false.
WTF are you babbling about?



If it will make it clearer for you: "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"

I do hope this clears things up for you?
No because its the same thing.
Try this: The already accepted 7-week influenced the false fictional story of about how God created the universe in 7 days.


Your second statement is just as false as your first one:
the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe

If it is a given that the 7-day week is based on Babylonian myth,
and
If it is a given that somebody made up a false fictional story about how God created the universe in 7 days,
and
If the 7 days in the false story is based on the already existing 7-day week based on Babylonian myth.
then
The God described in the bible, did not really create the universe.
Therefore, the days in a week could not have influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe.
Therefore, your presumption, "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe" is false.

lixluke
03-29-06, 08:02 AM
by making such statements, he was just being needlessly asinine.
i believe in g-d, but i dont require you to in order to talk about these things. please, continue your point :)
Many believe that those controlled by the devil put people down, and call people names. The devil is working through them to make others feel bad. Some succumb to it. All they have to do is day, "Devil, I succumb to your will", and proceed to make their curses at others.
So please do continue your point.
What was it you were saying about cool skill?

duendy
03-29-06, 08:07 AM
Is the universe still under construction? Seeing how God saw that everything was good I'm assuming He had finished the job. But the universe is expanding, stars are still being formed and life here has changed since He took Sunday off. So did He actually build it or did He just throw some energy out there and let nature take its course.

Perhaps someone can enlighten me... did God take day 7 off after the first sin or what? Even after disclosing that everything was good before His break, why isn't it? He didn't lie to us or make a mistake did He? I don't think God should go around saying everything is good and then try to fix things.

This must be Day 8, the day to correct mistakes or tweak things a bit. If creation is done then just leave it alone, wasn't it supposed to be perfect? How can you improve upon that?

if i were you i'd try and see thru the tired old myth of a 'god architect' who 'constructs'.....all that is patriarchal old hat. it is upstart authroritainism desinged to controoool yourrrr miiiind!!!

rather understand---or explore this--dont just take my word for it, like you see to the Bible....! that. reality isn't some construction job, which our limited imaginations analogize like how webuild shit. rather reality is ...creation~ING

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 08:16 AM
Creation isn't over yet.
Jesus Christ is "the beginning of the creation of God"
He is the "head" of the body, spiritual...and His spiritual typed body is a many-membered people made up of born-again believers that have stood for Him though the ages.
He was also the .."The first-born of many brethren"
The sons of god, God's Spirit manifested in flesh.
There is a type for an "eighth day", in the feast of tabernacles....old testament.
"One day to God is as a thousand years"
This was the day of man, the sixth millenium, the seventh is starting, which will be the kingdom of God on earth, set up in the heart of man, to become manifest in the seventh day on earth.
The eighth day begins with "the white throne" of judgement.
Everyone that has ever lived will be resurrected and judged, by Christ and those in His "body" who lived during the seventh day.
Then eternity will take hold.
The eighth day, the creation of God, reigns throughout eternity.
There is an eighth day...it's "outside" of the seven marked out in time, and goes back to the first....eternaly.

Sarkus
03-29-06, 08:18 AM
Key word "if". "If" these were a given, your statement would be false.
WTF are you babbling about?Sorry - I was under the impression that you were trying to add something useful.
But I seem to be incorrect in that impression.

You might just as well have said:

"If you are incorrect
AND
I am correct
THEN
You are incorrect and I am correct".

It adds zip.

No because its the same thing.
Try this: The already accepted 7-week influenced the false fictional story of about how God created the universe in 7 days.

Your second statement is just as false as your first one:
the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universeYou need to re-read your own logic and conclusion...

But we'll go through it slowly for you...

If it is a given that the 7-day week is based on Babylonian myth... (given 1)
and
If it is a given that somebody made up a false fictional story about how God created the universe in 7 days... (given 2),
and
If the 7 days in the false story is based on the already existing 7-day week based on Babylonian myth.... (given 3)
then
The God described in the bible, did not really create the universe.This particular conclusion can be based ENTIRELY on the second "given" - that the story in the Bible is false / fictional.

i.e. If the Bible story is FALSE - then the GOD in the Bible did not really create the universe.

So why do you need the 1st and 3rd given?

Therefore, the days in a week could not have influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe.Doh!
Here you fall down.

You've already stated as a given (1) that the 7-days used in the Bible is based on the pre-existing 7-day Babylonian week.

And you've already stated as a given that the Bible is a fictional story. (2)

Therefore how can you come to the conclusion that the existing 7 days in the week COULD NOT HAVE influenced the 7-days used in the Bible to decribe the creation of the Universe??????

Surely the fact that there was already an accepted 7 days in a week (your "given" in 1) influenced the fact that the Bible used 7 days to describe the building of the Universe by the God they portray?

Do you not see this?

What am I missing here?? :confused:

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 08:38 AM
What the bible says about an "Eighth day"

LEVITICUS 23:36
Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it [is] a solemn assembly; [and] ye shall do no servile work [therein].



"Notice, it was also upon this eighth day, last day, feast day of the tabernacle; after the last church age, after the last complete seven days upon the earth, after the millennium that this holy convocation comes.
Remember this is feast of tabernacles: tabernacles, gathering places.
For in the millennium, the Bible said, "They shall build houses; they shall inhabit them."
But in the new earth He's already went and prepared the place; it's built. We have nothing to do with the building of it.
A holy convocation, the eighth day (which there's only seven days), then on the eighth day, which comes back to the first day again (comes right back to the first day), the eighth day is a holy convocation.

Then after the millennium is over, then there will be an established Eden again.
God's great Kingdom will be taken back, because Jesus fought it out with Satan in the Garden of Gethsemane, and won back the Eden, which He's gone to prepare in heaven to return again.

Eternity's like a ring; you can't find no corner to it; you can't find no stopping place in a perfect circle. You go on and on. I don't care how far you go, you're still going."

lixluke
03-29-06, 08:58 AM
"If you are incorrect
AND
I am correct
THEN
You are incorrect and I am correct
That is not what I said. Nor does it have anything to do with what I said.
You are misinterpreting the original statement. What is the purpose of making arrogant presumptions about the interpretation of the original statement?


But we'll go through it slowly for you...
WTF is your problem? I'm having second thoughts about having a discussion with a total asshole.



This particular conclusion can be based ENTIRELY on the second "given" - that the story in the Bible is false / fictional.

i.e. If the Bible story is FALSE - then the GOD in the Bible did not really create the universe.

So why do you need the 1st and 3rd given?

Correct. You do not need the 1st and 3d given.



Doh!
Here you fall down.

WTF! It's obvious you are not interested in having a discussion, but making idiotic coments. What the fuck is "Doh! Here you fall down." supposed to mean?
This has nothing to do with the discussion. Its nothing more than a snide comment, and I refuse to continue a discussion with a person that has no respect for the discussion.

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 09:06 AM
BTW.."Cool Skill"...
First one to begin "drolling" obsenities, and generaly foaming at the mouth ....
LOSES...!!! :cool:

L O S E R

lixluke
03-29-06, 09:10 AM
What am I missing here?? :confused:
I shall reiterate this again.

You stated the following"
"the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"
If the God described in the bible did not really create the universe.
Then nothing could have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe.

In other words:
The days in the week could not have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe if the God described in the bible did not create the universe.

Therefore, considering this scenario, your claim that "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe" is false.


BTW.."Cool Skill"...
First one to begin "drolling" obsenities, and generaly foaming at the mouth ....
LOSES...!!! :cool:

L O S E R
TheVisitor is a TROLL.

MadMaxReborn
03-29-06, 10:52 AM
He personally may be refraining, but by putting Christ together and plunking him down in our midst isn't exactly resting and like it or not He is touching the world.

Is creation finished or not? If God is resting then it must be so. Slapping Christ together on day 7 is a creation no matter how you look at it.

From the Christian viewpoint, Jesus is not something that God slapped together. From my reading of the Bible, Jesus predates creation. It could have been God's plan before day 6 that at a certain time Jesus would touch the Earth. That does not imply that God touched the Earth after day 6, because there is a biblical "physical" distinction between God and Jesus. It also seems possible that Jesus could have not chosen the path he did, and could have succumbed to temptation, which would reaffirm my position that Jesus is not proof that God touched the Earth after day 6.

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 11:16 AM
I shall reiterate this again.

You stated the following"
"the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"
If the God described in the bible did not really create the universe.
Then nothing could have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe.

In other words:
The days in the week could not have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe if the God described in the bible did not create the universe.

Therefore, considering this scenario, your claim that "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe" is false.



TheVisitor is a TROLL.
Buttin' your head up against something are we...?
Sounds like a "GOAT" to me....

You think the bible says the world is only six thousands years old.
Only this incarnation of God has been going on that long.
We are a triune being...body, spirit, and soul.
Your body is a "type" of the earth...same sixteen elements, cosmic light and gases.
Your mind operates in a realm of the spirit, or the air.
Your soul is in "heavenly places, when your born of the spirit.
"The kingdom of God is in you"
This creation ends when the "kingdoms of this earth become the kingdom of our God"
The Lord's prayer....."On earth, as it is in heaven"

The bible is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
He is called the begining of "the creation of God".
Let's say it starts there......concerning this;
God becoming flesh, God becoming Man...and dying, to redeam man back to become God.
The bible starts at Adam and Eve, because this is where this "creation" begins...
i.e."the creation of God"
But Adam fails to manifest God.....so we go on down to Jesus.

There is one that succeeds, .
This is about the creation of the sons of god, which are a manifestation of God higher in power and authority than the angels.
A son is higher than a servant, a son is family...an heir....if he can stand the test, and be placed into a position of adoption in authority and power.
The manifestation of God, in flesh is Jesus, who is the Word, and the "firstborn of many brethren"

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us,.

The bible is God in Word form, in this creation.
A day is as a thousand years, and the creation of God's family...just started with Adam.
Before that, the world was in existance, and was covered with water as in a destruction, in a state of desolution....
What does the word "replentish" imply to you......?

The knowledge of whatever Pre-Adamic civilizations occured and were wiped out countless times... is not what the bible is for.
It however does not in the least contradict the truth....
Only people's misguided interpretations of it do.

There is a type for an "eighth day", in the feast of tabernacles....old testament.
"One day to God is as a thousand years"
This was the day of man, the sixth millenium, the seventh is starting, which will be the kingdom of God on earth, set up in the heart of man, to become manifest in the seventh day on earth.
The eighth day begins with "the white throne" of judgement.
Everyone that has ever lived will be resurrected and judged, by Christ and those in His "body" who lived during the seventh day.
Then eternity will take hold.

The eighth day, the creation of God, reigns throughout eternity.
There is an eighth day...it's "outside" of the seven marked out in time, and goes back to the first....eternaly.

Diogenes' Dog
03-29-06, 12:11 PM
I think he just filled in his timesheet wrong! Anyone can make a mistake.

lixluke
03-29-06, 12:35 PM
Buttin' your head up against something are we...?
Sounds like a "GOAT" to me.
Sounds like TROLL to me.
Noting but flames and attacks.
I have yet to see what the point of it all is.

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 01:20 PM
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I have yet to see what the point of it all is.
I can believe that.
Maybe it will come to you someday.
"Ask and you shall receive" :)
You realize you started this "trolling" when you cursed Sarkus out...
That's when I jumped in and said "you lose".
That's just the way it is.
When you got nothin' left but !@#$%
Your "out", vamoos, over and done, nada.
Get it.

lixluke
03-29-06, 02:00 PM
I can believe that.
Maybe it will come to you someday.
Perhaps it will.
As for now, I do not see any point in flaming and attacking just for the sake of flaming and attacking.
A troll's intention is nothing more than to flame and attack.
Call people a loser all you want while I call you a toll all I want.
Your perfect flamer's paradise.
And this accomplishes nothing as far as I know.

TheVisitor
03-29-06, 02:11 PM
Perhaps it will.
As for now, I do not see any point in flaming and attacking just for the sake of flaming and attacking.
A troll's intention is nothing more than to flame and attack.
Call people a loser all you want while I call you a toll all I want.
Your perfect flamer's paradise.
And this accomplishes nothing as far as I know.
I don't flame and attact...
I don't even know what they mean by "troll"
I asumed it was atheist's refering to a christian.
"Watch out, a Troll's about" ......or some drivel.
My reference to a goat wasn't from the bible though...
It was from "Kings Quest".....
They always send a goat out after a troll, it is the only thing that knocks them off a bridge.

lixluke
03-29-06, 06:50 PM
Ether way, your flames are pointless.
No need for any goats when can jump yourself.
I guess it wasn't clear on my previous post.
A troll's purpose is nothing, but to flame and attack.
It's been your entire purpose from your first pointless attack.
Keep up you trolling if it makes you feel better.

Sarkus
03-30-06, 03:08 AM
I shall reiterate this again.

You stated the following"
"the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe"
If the God described in the bible did not really create the universe.
Then nothing could have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe.

In other words:
The days in the week could not have influenced how the God described in the bible created the universe if the God described in the bible did not create the universe.

Therefore, considering this scenario, your claim that "the days in a week influenced how the God described in the Bible created the universe" is false.
You really are pathetic. :rolleyes:

If I said "How did Frodo Baggins destroy the Ring of Sauron?" then most would answer along the lines - "By dropping it in the fires of Mordor."

But anally retentive people would claim: "Frodo Baggins didn't exist - therefore he could not have destroyed any ring!"

Which are you?
:rolleyes:

lixluke
03-30-06, 09:01 AM
You really are pathetic.
Bla bla bla. I have no intention of responding to tantrum flames.

Hipparchia
03-31-06, 07:20 AM
I hate to attack simple statements within a long response, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish I could control that urge too. Come to think of it, it probably applies to praising simple statements: it still means we miss the central point that was being made. (But this peripheral one was such a good one.) :)