Of all the so called mistakes blamed on Bush: the misread intelligence reposrts pre-911 that were effectively ignored, the lack of verification of even one stated reason for imnvading Iraq - no weapons of mass destruction - Al Qeada was never a force in Iraq - Saddam, remember, was not a religious leader, which is the goal of Al Qeada. No public access to information regarding 911 which shouls bemade is available to the public or even discussed. No one could be as bumbling an idiot as GWB appears to be, and with all the finest advisors money can buy, the mistakes could have and would have been minimized, if GWB were merely incompetent. The alternative, of course, is that he is a scheming murdering tyrant with the intention of keeping a state of war generated indefinitely by stripping the Constitution of any meaning what the use is there to have a COnstitution. Co0ngress agrees and still more than half of them claim they are "against the war". The war is not a factual issue as demobnstrated by the rhetorical support or opposition runs very close to party lines. Republicans were not born with the geneticx disposition to supporty the current war, as Democartas were not born with the predisposition to half-heartedly oppose the war. Again, coukld any group of persons with the education, experience, access to unlimited amounts of money and power to investigate, be so utterly stupid and incompetent? "Treason doth not propsper. The reason is that if it did prosper, none would dare call it treason." Geistkiesel:shrug:
I think it is a question of ideology. GWB, Rummy, Dick and the rest sincerly believe that they were (and still are) right, and that they triggerd the war on false information, lies and deciet was a justifiable means to and ends. They will never admit that they were wrong from the outset, only that mistakes were made. They see the world through their own lenses fully convinced that they are have the answers, say promote democracy with war with no end strategy. They did not, and will not listen to advice contrary to their world view. Dick Cheney STILL wont say that they were wrong. History, I think, will be the judge, and I think the sentence will be that the current administration bungled everything it touched.
I think Bush simply made one BIG BIG MISTAKE. He thought Saddam's Iraq could be beaten again as easily as after the invasion of Kuwait by the devastating superiority of US arms -- the cruise missile in particular. And of course, up to the point of declaring "mission accomplished", he was right. But from the moment of victory, so to speak, everything has gone terribly wrong. He made the terrible mistake of thinking US forces would be welcome as liberators. He seems to have had no idea that the Iraqis might resent the demolition of power stations, bridges, and other infrastructure during the invasion. He seems to have overlooked the fact that the Iraqis might not like their country being occupied by foreign troops. He had no idea of the incompetence or corruption with which the occupation would be conducted. The truth is that his BIG BIG MISTAKE was shared by an awful lot of other people. They were thoughtless people, but neither evil or idiots. If you look back at what countless US (and plenty of British) politicians and political commentators were saying at the time of "mission accomplished" it was pretty stupid insightless stuff. But Bush was in good company.
nobody could be as bumbling as bush? well let's go over your "facts" how was the intelligence reports "misread"? lack of verification? verification was received from no less than 4 nations besides the US, britain and denmark being 2 of those nations. yes, no weapons of mass destruction has ever been reported in the news. correct. this is not to say al qaeda never operated in iraq. because it has, and often. the only reason it was not a force is because saddam would execute them, their families, and anyone suspected of cooperating with them. wrong on both counts. the sources for this nations national security isn't open for debate and for point 2 this situation IS being discussed, and often. except maybe people that don't get their "facts" straight.
well one thing anyone who is planning something and ignores the advice of people who have expierence in what your planning when you don't is incomptent and bush did it so there fore he is incomptent
Highly unlikely. Bush will probably become the richest ex-president in history, when he's rewarded for giving away the country.
Brains ... brains .... Bush may well be the last stand of the bluebloods. In the meantime, this hilarious video came across my tag surfer. I just had to share it.
majority public polixy support has no legal signidficance Perhaps. but he lied to the public in securing their support.We must not form oiutr moral policy and righteous actions on publiuc polls. If GWb was proved to have lied to the public, including you, is he still just a mixed up politician, or is he a criminal warmonger? A micked up political policy does not justify lying, nor is it a defense to criminal action. Geistkiesel:shrug:
You get no points foe sarcasm. It riles me when people denigrate the US Goverm,emt which is the best government money can buy. Geistkiesel:shrug:
He's an idiot. A fucking boob and nothing more. He's like a child- he believes what he's doing is right and good and fair, and doesn't understand that there are grey areas. He had good intentions, but he's easily manipulated by those close to him. Calling Bush a calculating warmonger would be an insult to calculating warmongers everywhere. His advisors, on the other hand, especially Cheney, are despicable, corrupt, and greedy. They're the ones who should really be vilified for the ill-effects of the "Bush Administration".
Bush is plausible deniability incarnate. He didn't know. He did what he thought was right according to what he knew. Other people controlled what he knew.
