formal reports by Iraqi goverment and American authorities claim that Iraqis constitution was accepted by 78% yes votes. However,what we hear from independent sources show interesting aspects of "democracy"!

Rmembering what happened in previous Afghanistan elections to bring to power a fully obedient puppet regime, I pretty much doubt much about the accuracy of claims the Iraqi referendum was democratic. Particularly in Neynana province, there are allegations of widespread fraud.

...I pretty much doubt much about the accuracy of claims the Iraqi referendum was democratic.

What are the specific reasons for your doubt? I mean, in order to form that opinion, you must have some actual facts and/or evidence to back it up or else you're doing what too many people do ...jump to faulty conclusions.

Particularly in Neynana province, there are allegations of widespread fraud.

Anyone can make "allegations" or "accusations", but don't you think that there should be some facts, evidence in order for them to be anything but political rhetoric? How would you like to be accused of something without any evidence of your guilt?

Baron Max

Any referendum when an army of occupation is in the state's territory is doubtful.
I don't care what some think a nice chap the USA is, an occupation force is occupation force.
Besides many probably didn't vote because of the danger from criminals.

I'm not saying it was undemocratic, but I doubt its' accuracy.

Originally posted by Chuuush:
Rmembering what happened in previous Afghanistan elections to bring to power a fully obedient puppet regime, I pretty much doubt much about the accuracy of claims the Iraqi referendum was democratic. Particularly in Neynana province, there are allegations of widespread fraud.


Fraud was not really what made the elections in Afghanistan negligible, but rather, the fact that the choices the citizens could vote for were very limited. It is dominated by past war lords, since they made sure that those opposing them were weak candidates. Take a look at Putins election in Russia and you have a similar situaton.

Frankly, I could give a damn about the democracy in Afghanistan, as long as organizations bent on destroying america are no longer based there. Iraq is different in that I feel that the U.S. was not justified in the attack..