TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Revolutionary Guards said on Saturday that the country would strike Israel's nuclear facilities if the Jewish state attacked it, state television reported.

"If the Zionist Regime (Israel) attacks Iran, we will surely strike its nuclear facilities with our missile capabilities," Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, told Iran's Arabic language al-Alam television.

The Revolutionary Guards are the ideologically driven wing of Iran's military with air, sea and land capabilities, and a separate command structure to regular units.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32141124/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

good

seconded.

2 fanatics, the both of you.

2 fanatics, the both of you.

So you wanting Israel to attack Iran's reactors despite no threat of attack is p[erectly sane but others wanting Iran to attack Israel's If and only if Israel attacks is them being fanatics?

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Revolutionary Guards said on Saturday that the country would strike Israel's nuclear facilities if the Jewish state attacked it, state television reported.

"If the Zionist Regime (Israel) attacks Iran, we will surely strike its nuclear facilities with our missile capabilities," Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, told Iran's Arabic language al-Alam television.

The Revolutionary Guards are the ideologically driven wing of Iran's military with air, sea and land capabilities, and a separate command structure to regular units.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32141124/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

Hell the US should help them

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Revolutionary Guards said on Saturday that the country would strike Israel's nuclear facilities if the Jewish state attacked it, state television reported. ......

They wouldn't stand one single chance in hell of accomplishing that task! Why threaten something that's virtually impossible to do? Who would possibly be scared at such a silly threat?

Baron Max

Iran is so famous for saying a lot but not doing what it says...the rockets will not be intercepted how exactly?

They wouldn't stand one single chance in hell of accomplishing that task! Why threaten something that's virtually impossible to do? Who would possibly be scared at such a silly threat?


Unlike in western culture, lying, grand hyperbole and speaking in fantastical terms are viewed by arabs and persians as mere tactics and thus as being entirely acceptable. Clearly, sam, strawdog and pjdude, as evidenced by their ridiculous and hopelessly contrarian posts, have all adopted this view, and just as with arab and persian government officials who engage in this kind of morally twisted and laughable behaviour, appear to others as being little more than idiotic propagandists.

Unlike in western culture, lying, grand hyperbole and speaking in fantastical terms .

So which country has a Hasbara wing in the government again?:rolleyes:

So which country has a Hasbara wing in the government again?:rolleyes:


:wtf: My god you're an idiot. There's no "hasbara wing" of the israeli government. hasbara is simply a word that means public relations or public diplomacy. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with my post in which I'm talking about entire cultures. Are you really so stupid you can't make these obvious distinctions? I've yet to see you respond in your own words to anything. Until you do, your posts will almost always miss the point. Show us your mind and not your ability to confuse the issue by posting links to and basing your responses on irrelevant articles.

I believe in giving credit to the source

Mahleqet ha-hasbara

http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=34520

And if we're going down to "entire" cultures, let me remind you that Israel is the man who lied to his blind father so he could steal his brother's inheritance.

Abraham was not the first Jew, technically. Abraham is the "Father" of all Semites -- Arabs and Jews. Differentiation between Arab and Jew begins with the Sons of Issacc. This is where it gets funny. Jacob, the Jew, was the younger son, but he was a little cheat and liar and was able to steal the Birthright by deception. God Himself was offended and sent an Angel to kick Jacob's ass. Jacob's mother supported him in this because she saw herself more in Jacob than in her first son, who was mannly and honorable. She herself was probably a prostitute. When Abraham's family sent a Servent to find a Wife for Issacc, this one particular woman was the first to meet him as he came into town. What kind of woman is the first to toss herself in the path of a travelling stranger? Who participates in lies and deceptions?

The Jews take some great pride in being descended from this Cheat and Liar. This should give us some keen insight into their Psychology... why they enjoy being lawyers, bankers, business people... where screwing over people is okay because it is Just Business. Far from seeing Jacob as flawed, even evil, they see his clever deceptions and cheats as traits to be lived up to.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=87154


I'd be very careful about throwing stones from a glass house, if I were you. Or making generalisations about "Arab cultures". Otherwise, I've got stuff from George Washington and Winston Churchill too. :mad:

"If the Zionist Regime (Israel) attacks Iran, we will surely strike its nuclear facilities with our missile capabilities," Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, told Iran's Arabic language al-Alam television.



He should have said: "...with our missile capabilities, if anything is left over" ....just a minor mistake....:D

I suppose Iran is a little on its toes at the moment what with their questionable election results.
It is bound to feel a bit threatened and Isreal does seem to operate as an instrament of the West - whether that is the true or not is another question. As we all know its nuclear capasity is the elephant in the room, so to speak. Very few journalist refer to its extraordinary nuclear arsenal. Personally I can quite understand the natural need to protect. Afterall they are pretty well surrounded by states that would rather not have them there. But this is not the real question we need to look at. It is a kind of side line illusion. There is so much oil in Iran no country in the world would want to eradicate it, let alone eradiate it. This would be utter madness. It makes no sense at all. And I just can't buy the idea that Iran would want to nuke anybody. What on earth for? It would just be obliterated. It's all just words, propaganda for public consumption. If there is any nuclear exchange between world powers my feeling is that it would be because of some mistake not fanatical intention. After what we saw in Japan.
No. What does matter of course it stategic capasity in a conventional ballistic sense. And new weapons to kill men on the ground.

Israel has some serious fire power. Iran should be careful. Just because Israel is a tiny country...looks can be deceiving. Besides, most Arabs do not care for the Persians anyway....

From what I can gather, Iran certainly has the capacity to defend itself. Hopefully, sanity will prevail, and the Zionists will not do anything to initiate a conflagration that WILL suffer the consequence of drawing in larger powers.

AAHHHHhhahahahhahaha yup, it's time to pull out the Jew-Card" and hope Israel gives a response and if they just keep repeating ALLAH loves you, Greedy Jews, Dirty Arabs, ALLAH Loves you, Greedy Jews, Dirty Arabs over and over and over again ... then after many many weeks and months the Iranian sheeple will go back to eating what's left of the grass.... the problem is, the grass is brown and doesn't taste all that good - USA's Fault, USA's Fault! Little Satan's Fault! Little Satan's Fault! *Sheeple nibble at the dirt*

Turn about fair play.
You should not hit without expecting to be hit back.

AAHHHHhhahahahhahaha yup, it's time to pull out the Jew-Card" and hope Israel gives a response and if they just keep repeating ALLAH loves you, Greedy Jews, Dirty Arabs, ALLAH Loves you, Greedy Jews, Dirty Arabs over and over and over again ... then after many many weeks and months the Iranian sheeple will go back to eating what's left of the grass.... the problem is, the grass is brown and doesn't taste all that good - USA's Fault, USA's Fault! Little Satan's Fault! Little Satan's Fault! *Sheeple nibble at the dirt*

Take your meds.

So you wanting Israel to attack Iran's reactors despite no threat of attack is p[erectly sane but others wanting Iran to attack Israel's If and only if Israel attacks is them being fanatics?

pj what is the title of this thread?

Iran threatens to target Israel’s nuclear sites

And Hitler did the same to Poland, threatened to attack if attacked,
The Gleiwitz incident, (Operation Himmler/Operation Konserve/Operation Canned Goods), and WWII was on.

For months prior to the 1939 invasion, German newspapers and politicians like Adolf Hitler had carried out a national and international propaganda campaign accusing Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating violent ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans living in Poland.[2][3] On 22 August, Adolf Hitler told his generals:

“ "I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth." [4][5] ”

The plan, named after its inventor, Heinrich Himmler,[1] was supervised by Reinhard Heydrich[6] and (primarily[7]) by Heinrich Müller.[1][6] The goal of this false flag project was to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which was subsequently used to justify the invasion of Poland. Hitler also might have hoped to confuse the Polish allies (Great Britain and France) to delay or prevent their declaration of war on Germany.[8]
1.^ a b c d Roger Manvell, Heinrich Fraenkel, Heinrich Himmler: The SS, Gestapo, His Life and Career, Skyhorse Publishing Inc., 2007, ISBN 1602391785, Google Print, p.76
2.^ a b Address by Adolf Hitler - September 1, 1939; retrieved from the archives of the Avalon Project at the Yale Law School.
3.^ [1]German newspaper editor outlining the claims of Polish atrocities against minorities
4.^ a b c d James J. Wirtz, Roy Godson, Strategic Denial and Deception: The Twenty-First Century Challenge, Transaction Publishers, 2002, ISBN 0765808986, Google Print, p.100
5.^ Bradley Lightbody, The Second World War: Ambitions to Nemesis, Routledge, 2004, ISBN 0415224055, Google Print, p.39
6.^ a b 20 Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 4; Thursday, 20 December 1945. The Avalon Project. Retrieved on 4 August, 2007.
7.^ Gerald Reitlinger, The SS, Alibi of a Nation, 1922-1945, Da Capo Press, 1989, ISBN 0306803518, Print, p.122
8.^ a b Steven J. Zaloga, Poland 1939: The Birth of Blitzkrieg, Osprey Publishing, 2002, ISBN 1841764086, Google Print, p.39

*pops meds*

Has anyone ever thought that a winner takes all war would settle the dispute?

Iran threatens to target Israel’s nuclear sites

Well, they are welcome to try. I mean, Israel has the means, both standard and--apparently if you believe the claims--nuclear, to rebuff an attack and retaliate on a level that nobody could withstand

If Iran strikes first, Israel would finish it in about ten hours. It's in Iran's best interest, in this case, to not attack Israel. Obviously this is cock-swinging and little more, but if the measuring sticks came out and the boys started bickering over who's was bigger, well, I think Israel would win that test handily.

It would be sickening. AT the very least, 10 million would die. Little in Iran would survive an attack on Israel (thus, they don't) after the Jews began the retaliation. But, if Israel struck first... then it's obvious that the destruction would be much more lop-sided.

I suspect we'll see the next world war in the Mideast. Israel, Iran and possibly Pakistan. It's sick to think about, but it seems inevitable now.

~String

*pops meds*

Has anyone ever thought that a winner takes all war would settle the dispute?

Yeah. It's why we actually get long eras of peace. I'm waiting for the next one.

~String

*pops meds*

Has anyone ever thought that a winner takes all war would settle the dispute?


It should have happened a long time ago, but for the interference of Russia and the U.S. it would have, both countries, saved the Arabs asses from Israel.

Russia saved the Israelis in 48, with massive shipments of weapons and war supplies.

I think people are waiting for a fight to break out between Israel and Iran. I am sure bookies are taking bets now. Such is the nature of human beings....look at our shoot them up video games....

Question is, will other countries in the area including Russia keep out of it or jump in like a bar fight?

Well, they are welcome to try. I mean, Israel has the means, both standard and--apparently if you believe the claims--nuclear, to rebuff an attack and retaliate on a level that nobody could withstand
There is absolutely no indication that Iran is even considering a first strike.
If Iran strikes first, Israel would finish it in about ten hours. It's in Iran's best interest, in this case, to not attack Israel. Obviously this is cock-swinging and little more, but if the measuring sticks came out and the boys started bickering over who's was bigger, well, I think Israel would win that test handily.
I repeat, NO indication whatsoever. On the potential outcome, Israel, does not have any experience, or proven capabilities against a foe, technologically and militarily on the scale of Iran.
It would be sickening. AT the very least, 10 million would die. Little in Iran would survive an attack on Israel (thus, they don't) after the Jews began the retaliation. But, if Israel struck first... then it's obvious that the destruction would be much more lop-sided.
Of course it would be sickening, but not if you listen to the frequency of the aggressive rhetoric coming from Israel. Any conflict between these two would also definitely draw in the larger powers (who will remain nameless for now), who would have to protect their interests.
I suspect we'll see the next world war in the Mideast. Israel, Iran and possibly Pakistan. It's sick to think about, but it seems inevitable now.
Yes, it does not look good. I also believe if the US is drawn into this conflict on any significant scale, the US will never recover, and thus the end of Empire for the USA. That would be truly sad.

There is absolutely no indication that Iran is even considering a first strike.

I repeat, NO indication whatsoever. On the potential outcome, Israel, does not have any experience, or proven capabilities against a foe, technologically and militarily on the scale of Iran.

Of course it would be sickening, but not if you listen to the frequency of the aggressive rhetoric coming from Israel. Any conflict between these two would also definitely draw in the larger powers (who will remain nameless for now), who would have to protect their interests.

Yes, it does not look good. I also believe if the US is drawn into this conflict on any significant scale, the US will never recover, and thus the end of Empire for the USA. That would be truly sad.

It was what got us out of the last depression, a world war, and the Big O is charging down the path of FDR at warp speed.

And, Achuallydumbandjustnuts, is playing the roll of Uncle Adolph to the T. even has his own Brown Shirts in the streets causing riots and breaking heads Ala Ernst Röhm, and His Storm Troopers.

Well, they are welcome to try. I mean, Israel has the means, both standard and--apparently if you believe the claims--nuclear, to rebuff an attack and retaliate on a level that nobody could withstand

If Iran strikes first, Israel would finish it in about ten hours. It's in Iran's best interest, in this case, to not attack Israel. Obviously this is cock-swinging and little more, but if the measuring sticks came out and the boys started bickering over who's was bigger, well, I think Israel would win that test handily.

It would be sickening. AT the very least, 10 million would die. Little in Iran would survive an attack on Israel (thus, they don't) after the Jews began the retaliation. But, if Israel struck first... then it's obvious that the destruction would be much more lop-sided.

I suspect we'll see the next world war in the Mideast. Israel, Iran and possibly Pakistan. It's sick to think about, but it seems inevitable now.

~String
if you look at the quote its if we are attacked we will retaliate.

if you look at the quote its if we are attacked we will retaliate.

The Gleiwitz incident, (Operation Himmler/Operation Konserve/Operation Canned Goods),

The Gleiwitz incident, (Operation Himmler/Operation Konserve/Operation Canned Goods),

read the link in the OP

read the link in the OP

Check the history of false flag operations.

The Gleiwitz incident, (Operation Himmler/Operation Konserve/Operation Canned Goods),

Check the history of false flag operations.

The Gleiwitz incident, (Operation Himmler/Operation Konserve/Operation Canned Goods),

read the link

read the link

Learn the History.

Learn the History.

off topic and not germane to the debate.

off topic and not germane to the debate.

Very germane, as to policy, propaganda, and tactics, and the debates of Iran and Actualldumbandjustnut, and His Storm Troopers.

The propaganda from Actualldumbandjustnut, and Iran sounds exactly like the propaganda that Germany and Hitler used on Poland just before WWII, create incidents and then threaten to defend your self from the evil Pole.

Create incidents and then threaten to defend your self from the evil Jew.

Yes, history and tactics, repeating its self.

Very germane, as to policy, propaganda, and tactics, and the debates of Iran and Actualldumbandjustnut, and His Storm Troopers.

The propaganda from Actualldumbandjustnut, and Iran sounds exactly like the propaganda that Germany and Hitler used on Poland just before WWII, create incidents and then threaten to defend your self from the evil Pole.

Create incidents and then threaten to defend your self from the evil Jew.

Yes, history and tactics, repeating its self.

No what would have been germane was incidents of Iran doing it

It was what got us out of the last depression, a world war, and the Big O is charging down the path of FDR at warp speed.

And, Achuallydumbandjustnuts, is playing the roll of Uncle Adolph to the T. even has his own Brown Shirts in the streets causing riots and breaking heads Ala Ernst Röhm, and His Storm Troopers.

I did note that Buff. BTW, you are funny dude. Keep on truckin`. :)

No what would have been germane was incidents of Iran doing it

They are, or didn't you read the article, or keep up with the news and history of the conflict?

It should have happened a long time ago, but for the interference of Russia and the U.S. it would have, both countries, saved the Arabs asses from Israel.

Russia saved the Israelis in 48, with massive shipments of weapons and war supplies.

But I thought Israel was at a disadvantage because no one would give them arms. Funny how what you say changes when you need it to change to make a different argument

They are, or didn't you read the article, or keep up with the news and history of the conflict?

Yes, yes, no they aren't using false flag operation, and please quit trolling.

Yes, yes, no they aren't using false flag operation, and please quit trolling.

And just exactly how do you know this fact, are you privi to the planing's of the Iranian Government.

Trolling? I am asking you to back up your suppositions with fact, citation, and history, something you have failed to do.