Iran has launched a research rocket to inaugurate a newly built space centre.

The test-launch for the country's first low-orbit research satellite was shown on Iranian state television to cries of "God is Great" from the announcer.

Correspondents say advances in Tehran's missile technology are likely to alarm Western powers, as Iran presses on with a controversial nuclear programme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7225699.stm

Its obviously their intention to impose sharia from space. :eek:

This is certainly an important achievement. Surrounding nations should take note as to how much Iran has developed over the past few decades.

the only reason this would be of such thought is it is a country the u.s doesn't like. if it where a differnt country like india it wouldn't be such a deal:thumbsup:

Well actually almost every country in the world is interested in going to space, it certainly appears that it is a circumsatnce of the future. exspecially for Iranian scientist since it would be a new means of discovery and science, and many medical alegations have been made regarding discoveries in space.
At the same time it will allow a means of useing all of the people that have a education in sciences in Iran, chemist,astronomers, ect... will have usefull and meaningful employment relative to their degrees in science.

DwayneD.L.Rabon

The race to put a hijab on the Moon begins.

and besides, if it stars a space race, it'll result in five years closer to a mars landing, as well as more publicty for it:)

I think we should have wars in space instead of here.

I think we should have wars in space instead of here.

I liked it better when we fought wars on battlefields, rather than towns and cities.

Yeah, whatever happened to that concept? War used to be something that kings waged on each other for land. I guess since we got liberated from kings, we also got the war.

Yeah, whatever happened to that concept? War used to be something that kings waged on each other for land. I guess since we got liberated from kings, we also got the war.

This thread goes full circle. The USA imposed a king and despot on th Iranian people in the 1950's. Trained the Shah's secret service in torture and other terrorist tactics against the Iranians.

another step in the iranian 10 step ultimate solution to the israeli problem?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7225699.stm

Better late than never.

in space lasers are by far the best, and artifacil light in the sky isn't good, especily if it goes towrads earth. space war big nono:crazy:

in space lasers are by far the best, and artifacil light in the sky isn't good, especily if it goes towrads earth. space war big nono:crazy:
Any hypothetical laser weapon in space would have its effects limited skyward. The atmosphere isn't as clear as it seems.

For something actually worth worrying about, google up the Kessler syndrome.

Any hypothetical laser weapon in space would have its effects limited skyward. The atmosphere isn't as clear as it seems.

For something actually worth worrying about, google up the Kessler syndrome.

that includes star wars?

Good for Iran. Of course everyone is going on about nukes It's all hype.

Good for Iran. Of course everyone is going on about nukes It's all hype.

Thats because Iran is a very powerful country. Even 10,000 nukes are like dust before the thought that Iran may develop ONE. :D

Good for Iran. Of course everyone is going on about nukes It's all hype.

hype? sometimes i wish some iranian nuke will blow up just to show you how wrong you are.

hype? sometimes i wish some iranian nuke will blow up just to show you how wrong you are.

Well, they said the same thing about Iraq. Guess what ? They were WRONG.

Well, they said the same thing about Iraq. Guess what ? They were WRONG.

who are THEY?

i do remind you that ahmadinejad said israel end is near, in the nuclear facility in busher.


chee, what could he meant by that?

of course we are the aggressors.

that includes star wars?

Shooting at the ground from space with a laser is an appealing concept but in practice it is all but impossible to do at any deep-IR wavelength shorter than 50 microns or so, and still extremely difficult at the higher microwave frequencies.

First and most obvious is the issue of cloud cover. Anything above roughly 30GHz has a hard time penetrating thick rain clouds and precipitation. A radio wave will interact with any object that is equal to its wavelength or larger, and dense cloud cover appears opaque to EHF because its individual moisture droplets chain together as a sort of composite reflector. As you move higher, into shorter wavelengths and higher inherent photon energy levels, attenuation becomes even more of an issue because individual photons start to collide with atoms and impart their energy onto valence electrons with greater incidence.

Second is the issue of plain old atmospheric attenuation on a clear day. The best analogy here is the way stars twinkle on the clearest, dryest winter night, or why the Hubble telescope was such a big advancement to astronomy. Temperature gradients, wind, dust, humidity, and the logarithmic tapering of barometric pressure as you increase in altitude all play havoc with optical energy. Think of viewing a drinking straw in a glass of water. Looking from the side, it appears almost split in half. There is a similar (albeit more gradual) refractive index that you've got to compute in order to hit the ground from space with a beam of light focused enough to affect a target in any consequential way. Because of chaotic and unpredictable meteorologic factors, even the most powerful computers and best science couldn't apply enough iterative functions in order to accurately direct the beam over such a distance.

Third is the problem of a faster orbital speed. For a geosynchronous orbit, you'll be sitting pretty up at around 24,000 miles (38e3 km) and the distance to Earth's surface will be to great to keep the beam focused and collimated enough to accomplish anything. You'd probably need to orbit a good deal lower, like ISS height, around 185 miles. At this altitude, your orbital maintenance velocity is going to be close to 18,000mph. You can toss this variable into your targeting equation too.

Finally, (and the following applies to any atmospheric transit at high power) you have to deal with the natural absorptive properties of air creating additional refraction by blooming into plasma and lensing the beam off target. It is a runaway reaction, too. The more powerful the laser's output is, the more energy will be absorbed by the air it passes through, and the faster it will get bloomed. This is an issue with existing high power laser weapon systems like the Skyguard (http://www.laserfocusworld.com/articles/article_display.html?id=259829), but not so much for the Airborne Laser (http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/index.html) as it operates around 40,000 feet, above most of the aforementioned turbidity that causes beam deflection.

So yeah, hitting the ground from space with a laser is a pretty fantastic idea that will probably never happen, but it makes a good threadjack.

star wars refer to the project at intercepting missiles while they are in space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile

star wars refer to the project at intercepting missiles while they are in space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile
I don't think that was what fusion457739843 was referring to. It is a much more feasible prospect, though.

Unless you mean shooting at them with a ground-based laser, which would also be pretty iffy for the same reasons. For missile defense, hit-to-kill is where it's at.

who are THEY?

i do remind you that ahmadinejad said israel end is near, in the nuclear facility in busher.



Really, are you sure that he wasn't quoting someone else ?
Please provide the links...(but I'm sure you won't)
They being, Bush, Cheney and co.

Really, are you sure that he wasn't quoting someone else ?
Please provide the links...(but I'm sure you won't)
They being, Bush, Cheney and co.

ha? i can find quotes from israeli sources, but ill doubt you believe them.

there is the video of him saying death to israel with a loving crowed.

of course there is the gay hanging, the visit to the US etc.

I don't think that was what fusion457739843 was referring to. It is a much more feasible prospect, though.

Unless you mean shooting at them with a ground-based laser, which would also be pretty iffy for the same reasons. For missile defense, hit-to-kill is where it's at.

but that is what I meant.

but that is what I meant.
Well, that wasn't particularly clear.

In any case, lasers would make for good weapons outside the atmosphere, but if you're shooting into or out of the atmosphere, you can pretty much forget about doing all that much damage with them. In the vacuum of space you can propagate the beam thousands of miles, but in the soupy mix of dirty gas that is our air, maybe ~5km at best (at these power levels).

ha? i can find quotes from israeli sources, but ill doubt you believe them.

there is the video of him saying death to israel with a loving crowed.

of course there is the gay hanging, the visit to the US etc.

Hard to believe what you never post. Again, he was quoting Khohemeni.

Hard to believe what you never post. Again, he was quoting Khohemeni.

and?

So, he was quoting someone that was dead, and who said that Israel would be wiped by the pages of time,was not threatening you, was only saying that a zionist state by its structure would not last.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

[QUOTE=Echo3Romeo;1738771]So yeah, hitting the ground from space with a laser is a pretty fantastic idea that will probably never happen QUOTE]

Hmmm!....* Spud quickly invents shotgun laser and puts Iran back on the global terror top ten hitlist*

p.s Spud is not Iranian...* bastards stole his idea*

So, he was quoting someone that was dead, and who said that Israel would be wiped by the pages of time,was not threatening you, was only saying that a zionist state by its structure would not last.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

very reassuring.

you believe that? i dont.

[QUOTE=Echo3Romeo;1738771]So yeah, hitting the ground from space with a laser is a pretty fantastic idea that will probably never happen QUOTE]

Hmmm!....* Spud quickly invents shotgun laser and puts Iran back on the global terror top ten hitlist*

p.s Spud is not Iranian...* bastards stole his idea*

Did you ever have a spud ( potato ) gun as a kid ?

[QUOTE=Spud Emperor;1738926]

Did you ever have a spud ( potato ) gun as a kid ?

Myles, of course, it was a sebago 73 rapidfire spacemodel. ( pre-famine, of course, sorry, I can't do anything about that!)

Who else d'ya tink put feckin' Mars outta feckin' orbit?.. Feckin' aliens,..get feckin' reeeeel!... Begorrah!

Thats because Iran is a very powerful country. Even 10,000 nukes are like dust before the thought that Iran may develop ONE. :D Sounds like jihadist rhetoric again from our resident fundi!

Why is a Muslim extremist like a Prom queen?

Because she wished She had ( I'll spell it out, you fuckin' humouristly challenged sci-folk),
{Jihad}..she had, Jihad, she had've kept her pants on!

[QUOTE=Myles;1738959]

Myles, of course, it was a sebago 73 rapidfire spacemodel. ( pre-famine, of course, sorry, I can't do anything about that!)

Who else d'ya tink put feckin' Mars outta feckin' orbit?.. Feckin' aliens,..get feckin' reeeeel!... Begorrah!

You are not talking me seriously. One thing Ireland has in abundance is potatoes, spuds, murphys, pratees etc. As Shakespeare said, A spud by any other name woukd taste as good.

Anyway , when I was a kid you could buy a small gun, the barrel of which you stuck into a spud. This removed a pellet from the spud and compressed air within the gun. Then you simply had to aim and pull the trigger.


Bad cess te ye for not knowin' dat.

[QUOTE=Spud Emperor;1738961]

you could buy a small gun, the barrel of which you stuck into a spud.

Ahem!
Moils, I fear we're a tad awf tread but feck, oi've gawt me awn Spood Empress fer det!

I'm not against Iran developing a space program. I've always been fascinated by space, and if Assad has any brains he'll get a space program going. Imagine the pride and glory of Syria being the first nation to land actual people on Mars! And the corporate and economical power generated by resources acquired on that planet.

In fact, now that I think of it, if Syria is the first nation to land on Mars, we can claim it for ourselves! Since it is unsettled and unowned.

Gonna steal land from the Martians?

Gonna steal land from the Martians?

Steal? No...claim.

Iran has launched a research rocket to inaugurate a newly built space centre.
Iran will learn that it is cheaper to freeze poor Iranians to death by denying them natural gas than it will be to launch them into the vacuum of space in substandard spacecraft to the same effect.

Iran will learn that it is cheaper to freeze poor Iranians to death by denying them natural gas than it will be to launch them into the vacuum of space in substandard spacecraft to the same effect.

Considering two of their women were the first Muslim women to make it to the top of Mount Everest and an Iranian-American woman already made it into space, I doubt it. I've met some really brilliant Iranians and then, theres Russia, China, India. Maybe they could work together on a project?

Considering two of their women were the first Muslim women to make it to the top of Mount Everest and an Iranian-American woman already made it into space, I doubt it. I've met some really brilliant Iranians and then, theres Russia, China, India. Maybe they could work together on a project?
Only reason she made it into space was because she was living in america an was a U.S citizen!...no way a woman in Iran would be able to be first in space provided if Iran had a space program!

Only reason she made it into space was because she was living in america an was a U.S citizen!...no way a woman in Iran would be able to be first in space provided if Iran had a space program!

You really must learn not to confue SAM wirh facts. It brings her out in a rash

Poor Iran.... they need a revolution.

Only reason she made it into space was because she was living in america an was a U.S citizen!...no way a woman in Iran would be able to be first in space provided if Iran had a space program!

We'll never know will we?

This week, Tehran is hosting the All-Women Games for Muslim and Asian Capi- tals, in which 600 women from 17 countries will compete in events ranging from marksmanship to swimming.

Only reason she made it into space was because she was living in america an was a U.S citizen!...no way a woman in Iran would be able to be first in space provided if Iran had a space program!

You people have been a bit brainwashed :bugeye:. I travel to Iran on and off for business and there the problem is not in the scale you think.