Interplanetary Internet

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  1. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know this belongs to computer science or space science - most likely both

    anyway here's an article about Interplanetary Internet

    short extract
    http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/ontheedge_0305.html

    the first thing the first colonists on Mars would do will be not setting up an oxygen plant, but uplinking to internet

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    wonder when will I receive spam mail from LGM

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    aka little green men
     
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  3. blobrana Registered Senior Member

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    If i could just add....

    I found out yesterday, that <b>all</b> that spam you get, originates from <i>only</i> 180 individuals!
     
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  5. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Find those 180 individuals and send them on a colonizing mission to the sun.
     
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  7. shutupandshave Registered Member

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    OMG!

    180 people?

    I think I'd be willing to break the law if I got hold of them...


    Incidently, I wouldn't wanna play a game over the planetary internet

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  8. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    I think this IPN will be most useful if we have made other planets (or at least, save space object, thus excluding asteroids) habitable, otherwise, poor the scientists, they's be slowly accused to be doing underground activities just because many don't have access to this IPN...
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    thats to merciful for them!

    IPN seems like a good idea: many space probes though can communicate through relay probes but many are not compatible with each other, yes standardize the system.
     
  10. Bachus Registered Senior Member

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    Now we only need their adresses so we can sign them up for every snailmail advertisments known to men. (and sign em up for all the telemarketeers).
     
  11. khallow Registered Senior Member

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    cool subject

    Interplanetary Internet is a tough but intriguing idea. One of the crucial reasons for considering it, is that it provides a much better way for space probes to communicate with Earth. First, the protocols will be standard and of course directly connected to Earth-side Internet. Second, the probe no longer requires an antenna powerful enough to reach the Earth directly. That can save significant weight on antennas and power system. OTOH, the Internet relays would become points of failure.

    Here's a two year old <a href="http://www.ipnsig.org/reports/memo-ipnrg-arch-00.pdf">paper</a> on the subject. What is significant is that no protocol is mentioned in the paper. TCP won't work because it passes messages back and forth and only closes when the sender is confident that the recipient got the complete message. Probably, some protocol will be built on UDP which sends without verification datagrams to the recipient. Error correction, and an ability to resend missing packets would have to be built into a higher layer on top of UDP. Sending encrypted datagrams should help with the security problems.
     
  12. khallow Registered Senior Member

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    more on the subject

    Google around people, there's gold in them thar hills. Here's an <a href="http://www.ipnsig.org/reports/TCP_IP.pdf">article</a> about two protocols (FTP over TCP and SMTP) that demonstrates far better what the problems are. Here's a proposal for <a href="http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~jfang/deepspace/TCP-Planet.pdf">TCP-Planet</a> which I guess would substitute for TCP. There's a lot of references in these papers I'm citing too. Looks like protocols built on TCP would have to be redone for TCP-Planet. Ie, it's not a plug-in replacement.
     
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  13. Ares Registered Senior Member

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    It's an interesting idea. As history shows, good communications are essential for building an empire or country, so establishing a fairly reliable commications link with Earth would be important for any future colony.

    The main problem is the finite speed of light-you can kiss goodbye to any instant messaging, chat, or email.
     
  14. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    email to mars wouldn't be so bad. ~3 minutes (depending on the distance at particular times) Moon would be a piece of cake. Also asteroid belt won't be that bad. Venus in unhabitable
     
  15. eburacum45 Valued Senior Member

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  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    eburacum45,

    you mean intergalactic even interuniversal network.
     

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