The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board,
Twat
they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.:eek: What ancient books do athiests take as writ exactly?

Just about ancient book of history which is not the Bible, where have you been?

Just about ancient book of history which is not the Bible, where have you been?

Name one! I'll bet you cant find ONE 2thousand year old book that isnt practically meaningless to todays scientists?

Huh?

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

Why are they "pychotic" ?? For disproving the bible? ( not a hard task at that)
The onus is still on you to prove the bible is the word of God and this "accurate account of history" you keep referring to.

I guess you are feeling pretty desparate now that you have no way to refute the claims of Iasion and others.

Ha, name a historical account in the Bible which has been proven to be false.

Oh I see, you ignored my request to quote an example for your statement this thread is based on and stoop to kindergarten arguement, very impressive.:rolleyes:

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

That's very funny, surely insane.

"Intellectually dishonest" fits, planckster.

Ha, name a historical account in the Bible which has been proven to be false.


That's been done by Iasion and several others here. Why re-hash the same thing again?
They keep showing you and all you do is post one liners or preach and then go thru the same thing again.:confused:

Cant' name one, no surprise.

"Intellectually dishonest" fits, planckster.

Were you born retarded? or was it a result of the constant raps around the head with a bible that Caused it?

Nice rebuttal, are you still in kindergarten, how old are you?

No I graduated kindergarten on my 25th birthday. :p

Ha, name a historical account in the Bible which has been proven to be false.what just one, as there are hundreds, there you go, KJV 2kings 17-4: And the king of Assyria found conspiracy in Hoshea: for he had sent messengers to So king of Egypt, and brought no present to the king of Assyria, as he had done year by year: therefore the king of Assyria shut him up, and bound him in prison.
whos is this So person,
there has never been a king of Egypt at this time or any other time, called "So" or with any similar name.

Kings have been called by different names, next.

Have you even the knowledge of what intelligent coversation constitutes?

Yes, do you?

Well why dont you try using it in your argument?

I do, you don't.

Wacko!

Knuckle head!

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.
Demand for banning someone just because of opposite view is quite silly.

If we'll ban all users, who will discus? We don't need this forum then.

BTW, I'm not atheist, but don't you think that it would be sad for world's knowledge, if the Bible is the only source for past 2000 years?

Bubblehead

Not the past 2000 years.

Not the past 2000 years.

And plus...

The Bible records a swath of history from circa 400 B.C. on back to the origin of mankind, and other books provide wonderful corroboration of it.

Hey Spur, you believe in the Devil, so who is the Devil opposed to, why can't you answer this? I've asked you three times now.

No books provide any corrobation of Jewish myths.

the origin of mankind eh? you mean that scientists in the early centuries CE recorded the evolution of homo sapiens in the bible?

The Bible records a swath whic of history from circa 400 B.C. on back to the origin of mankind, and other books provide wonderful corroboration of it.
Im wasting my breath but:
Of which books are you referring, what are the credentials of the authors and can you cite research?

To the Scesspooooooolllll with this thread!
This is were this belongs you know! ;)

Hey Spur, you believe in the Devil, so who is the Devil opposed to, why can't you answer this? I've asked you three times now.

I don't believe in the devil.

It's just remarkable that you don't believe in the bible.

'You shall not murder.'

I can never tell if IceAge makes these posts with serious intent, or if hes just trying to make everyone on these boards hate him.

I can never tell if IceAge makes these posts with serious intent, or if hes just trying to make everyone on these boards hate him.

Or just here to push peoples' buttons!:D

I dont consider a document which once contained over 10 gospels, but now consists of only four gospels historical evidence.
Where did the rest of history go? I guess it never happened!

1. Historians have determined that the story of a worldwide flood, as set forth in the book of Genesis, is a myth. For example, Andrew White reports that nineteenth century Egyptologists found that Egypt had a flourishing civilization long before the biblical Flood of Noah and that no such flood had ever interrupted it.

2. Scientists are seriously challenging a recent, fascinating proposal that Noah's epic story - setting sail with an ark jam-full of animal couples - was based on an actual catastrophic flood that suddenly filled the Black Sea 7,500 years ago, forcing people to flee. In a detailed new look at the rocks, sediments, currents and seashells in and around the Black Sea, an international research team rejects the Noah flood idea, arguing that all the geologic, hydrologic and biologic signs are wrong. Little that the earth can tell us seems to fit the Noah story, they say. An international team lead by Ali Aksu argues there was no Black Sea flood at that time, and little else to support Noah's story. Instead, they see evidence that 7,500 years ago the Black Sea was already full, that it wasn't very salty, and more water was running out of the Black Sea than was pouring in through the Bosporus. As it does today, they said, the narrow strait carried a two-way flow 7,500 years ago, with salty water going in via the bottom, and less-salty water coming out on the surface. So, no flood.

3. In addition, the book of Exodus claims to contain an historical account of the escape of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt, but historians and archaeologists have been unable to verify the events related in that book. No known Egyptian records refer to the biblical Moses, the devastating plagues that God supposedly inflicted on the country, the escape of the Hebrew slaves, or the drowning of the Egyptian army. Moreover, Andrew White reports that the records contained on Egyptian monuments show that the pharaoh ruling at the time of the alleged escape of the Jews was not overwhelmed in the Red Sea.

4. Another case in point is the biblical record of the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and their subsequent 40-year wandering in the Sinai wilderness. According to census figures in the book of Numbers, the Israelite population would have been between 2.5 to 3 million people, all of whom died in the wilderness for their disobedience, yet extensive archaeological work by Israeli archaeologist Eliezer Oren over a period of 10 years "failed to provide a single shred of evidence that the biblical account of the Exodus from Egypt ever happened."

5. Matthew 27:45 states that while Jesus was on the cross, there fell over the whole land a darkness which lasted from midday until three in the afternoon. Andrew White states that although Roman observers such as Seneca and Pliny carefully described much less striking occurrences of the same sort in more remote regions, they failed to note any such darkness occurring in Judea.

6. Concerning the issue of the alleged historical accuracy of the Gospel accounts, Robert Ingersoll wondered why it was that the first century Jewish historian Josephus, "the best historian the Hebrews produced, said nothing about the life or death of Christ; nothing about the massacre of the infants by Herod; not one word about the wonderful star that visited the sky at the birth of Christ; nothing about the darkness that fell upon the world for several hours in the midst of day; and failed entirely to mention that hundreds of graves were opened, and that multitudes of Jews arose from the dead, and visited the Holy City?" Ingersoll also asked: "Is it not wonderful that no historian ever mentioned any of these prodigies?" Ingersoll's questions are particularly cogent when one considers that there are still in existence at least some of the works of more than sixty historians or chroniclers who lived in the period from 10 C.E. to 100 C.E. Those writers were contemporaries of Jesus, if in fact he ever existed.

http://quinnell.us/religion/reasons/history.html

Besides, intellectual dishonesty is not a valid reason for banning, so be thankful of that.

Kings have been called by different names, next.
irrelevant, with that reasoning you could say Adams real name was Fred and Noahs, Tony and Moses real name was Bert. wasn't goliaths real name mini. it seems the bible only refers to everybody else by the given name but for this poor old So and So, whoever the poor bastard really is.

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

All I want to know what your parents did to you. No, scratch that, I really don't.

It's fictitious like a Tom Clancy book. Based on real places, real organizations, real equipment, even real wars, but made up for a purpose.

It's fictitious like a Tom Clancy book. Based on real places, real organizations, real equipment, even real wars, but made up for a purpose.

Is the Bible alot like the Torah? well i mean as far as the content.

I think the Torah is in the Bible.

I can never tell if IceAge makes these posts with serious intent, or if hes just trying to make everyone on these boards hate him.

and you will fit right in, what color do you want your propeller to be?

but seriously, you only have 45 posts and your allready making demands.

I think the Torah is in the Bible.

you think? thanks, i need something more concise before i look into it further.

Does the Torah have 5 books or something like that?

Does the Torah have 5 books or something like that?

I have no idea. Which is why i figured Spidergoat could help us.

I don't know, never read it.

come on? dont fool around.

tell me you did'nt have a BarMitzvah.

Spidergoat, are you still here? I thought we were mates.

:(

John99, I never made a demand.
You should really think before you speak.

John99, I never made a demand.
You should really think before you speak.

yeah i thought you were telling someone here to get lost, but you are good at jumping right on the attack bandwagon. Obviously being accepted is so important to you.

come on? dont fool around.

tell me you did'nt have a BarMitzvah.

I didn't.

either your only putting that there 'cause i said "tell me..." or your not Jewish.

makes no difference to me, i've been to loads of bar's and bat's. :)

maybe your 11 years old.

I'm Jewish by ancestry, not personal faith. I never wanted a Bar Mitzvah, although we did talk about it. I could not commit myself at that point. I have never even been to one. I am circumsized, if that makes you feel better. Had no choice about that one... bastards.

I could not commit myself at that point. I have never even been to one. I am circumsized, if that makes you feel better. Had no choice about that one... bastards.

ha ha ha, thats a big desision you made for a 12yo.

I was a non-conformist. I wouldn't say the Pledge of Allegience, either, until high school. Then I reasoned it was a fine thing to pledge, only I didn't say the "God" part.

John99, I simply made a statement. If you wish to take it personal then so be it.

The Bible records a swath of history from circa 400 B.C. on back to the origin of mankind, and other books provide wonderful corroboration of it.
What the hell are you talking about? Biblical tales don't stretch back 200,000 years.
The Bible is highly exaggerated in places and is quite inconsistent. It's not that good of a historical sourcebook, in comparison to the numerous numerical records from the period.

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

I personally think that christians whose sole purpose in life is to please an invisible being who lives in the sky should all be burned at the stake....errr...i mean banned from this site.

Hapsburg: What the hell are you talking about? Biblical tales don't stretch back 200,000 years. The Bible is highly exaggerated in places and is quite inconsistent. It's not that good of a historical sourcebook, in comparison to the numerous numerical records from the period.[/QUOTE]

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M*W: Good to see you, mein liebnich!

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Name one! I'll bet you cant find ONE 2thousand year old book that isnt practically meaningless to todays scientists?Actually:

Ancient texts have been useful in archaeology and particularly astronomy - match historical observation to astronomical prediction.

Where u been?? :p

It's not the historical accounts that I think of as false. It's the interpretations placed on those accounts, and the belief systems derived from those interpretations.

Ha, name a historical account in the Bible which has been proven to be false.

Walking on water?

or seperating a sea?

the rope trick

water to wine

feeding 5000 people with no caterers

flying chariots

the idea that the flood cleansed the world of evil...a little bit must have got stuck on the ark

The idea that 2 of every animal could be put on the same ark from the same area....and the Earth is only ~10,000 years old.

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

It's great that you value our freedom of speech. :)

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.

'Truth' is so often inconvenient...Perhaps banning is a commoner occurrence on religious sites?

feeding 5000 people with no caterers
HEH!

I laughed so hard at that, I nearly choked on my tuna sandwich!

Oh and to answer Ice..

Adam and Eve, who along with a snake and an apple.. yada yada yada..

Torah = the pentateurch, or
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy

You find these in the Old Testament.

The Bible = Old & New Testament, and some apocrypha (depending on your religion).

The most recent archaelogical evidence shows that the Israelites were originally hill dwelling Caananites. There was no Exodus. Judges and the Book of Joshua appear to be mostly garbage– Jericho was a small village. It didn't even have walls.

The atheists at this board who psycotically deny that the Bible is the most accurate account of 2,000 plus years of ancient history should be banned from this board, they treat other ancient books as writ, yet single out the Bible as being supposedly fictitious, surely insane.Translation:

Ban anyone who confronts me and forces me to rational the absurdities I’m absolutely convinced about.
The forum should take an institutional stand and choose sides.

Prevent others from belittling by childish mind and from constantly reminding me what I am in comparison.

Censor reason.

The thread topic was a joke, satyr, in response to people like Med Woman.

The thread topic was a joke, satyr, in response to people like Med Woman.

Oh, so you've changed the topic when it suits you! A good little Christian you are... similar to changing the word of God where it fits your needs! Ring a bell. Wait, don't answer that, because you'll just deny it.

The thread topic was a joke, satyr, in response to people like Med Woman.

What did Dr. Quinn do to you?

No, that was a spoof of what people such as Med Woman have proposed.

No, that was a spoof of what people such as Med Woman have proposed.

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M*W: I don't come here to spoof anyone. Since you think that is what I do, don't ask me anymore questions. I don't have time to waste on the likes of you.

I never said you were spoofing anyone, I spoofed what you were saying about me, it's called sarcasm.

One thing I always appreciate about creationist-style arguments is their clarity...

Spidergoat,

Wonderful post (#38). Copied and pasted. Thank you.

A steaming pile.