I'm not there yet, but I can see it coming sometime in my life. Maybe I just think too much, but it's hard for me not to think about it.

There are only two things that can happen to my existence, finality or immortality. Not just in this current state (although it might be final at its completion), but overall. The first is extremely depressing to think about and the first is hard to comprehend.

How do we go about our lives with so little information about the correct answer? Obviously, most people are just so distracted with their day-to-day lives that they don't make time to think about it. Some don't understand the question anyway. What about everyone here? Do you just ignore it?

Of course, I can't go crazy just yet... I've got a beautiful little girl to raise first. :-)

The sane man always thinks he's crazy,
and the crazy man always thinks he's fine.

At 21, I presently believe in a creational force (although I don't
consider myself a religious person at all) and I do think there's
something after physical death, although I cannot bring forth any
tangible evidence for your personal scrutiny...

I'm also very much aware of the possibility that it will all end once
my heart calls it quits, but I'm not worried, as it should be quite
like sleep minus the dream periods: you won't be aware of any of
it so don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things
:eek: ;)

ive decided that it should not be something to worry about, because you;ll never be able to think about it. i mean, you can't look back once you're gone...

perhaps there is no correct answer, perhaps there is. it tends to irrelevant if you dont look for one. there is always a possibilty it might come to you. i dont ignore the fact that i dont have answers, i accept it.

i think a dilemma that i find in analyzing the possibility of my immortality or finality is that who knows if and when that final time will come? if and when it does......who knows what will happen and when/how/where???. and because i dont know what will happen, or if and when it will happen, i just go on with my life expecting the best out of life but in preparation for the worst. there are possibilities and there are probabilities.......and then realities. i just concentrate on what IS and then everything else is secondary.

I wonder sometimes if I have lost my mind. Insanity might be incredibly fun to play with and pretend at, but when you actually think you might be insane then the fear takes hold. However, I think my insanity (the "normal" kind...ha) comes in waves, or maybe thats just what I tell myself every night when they come to tighten my straight jacket.

Im totally insane - theres no doubt about it

Originally posted by *stRgrL*
Im totally insane - theres no doubt about it

Nah! I wish all the insane people would realize they are insane.

Is insanity simply a myth? Does Insantiy truley exist or is it simply in indivitual judgment on a way of living/State of Mind. If one could not understand love any other that acts upon him with love would apper to be a lunatic. Or is insanity the mind/boby/spirit (whatever you want) demonstrating how out of balance it is, kind of like when you are sick you vomit. Is it just simply brought on be poor mental/physical/spiritual health?

To concieve the universe with a limited mind, will drive you insane. Don't worry. When you understand you just do. It comes natural with out effort. Experience REALIZATION insteed of rationlaization. If you rationalize your experience it will be acceable mainly to your intellect, while if it is realized it becomes a true understanding that will stick with you. You might become an immortal some day but not yet so live where you are know our you might miss it.

it is very real and could be caused by one or all of the factors you mentioned.
the trick is not to be lazy when making a diagnosis. one can make a subjective observation and form an opinion on anothers mental state but unless certain guidelines are followed, not much credence will be given to that opinion. insanity is a deviation from the norm.

insanity is a deviation from the norm.

How does that reflect true insanity to me it seems just like public opinion.

i am afraid that it is necessary to have a functional civil society. think about the consequences if everybody could make their own value judgements as to what constitutes insanity. the system is far from perfect but.......

If all people where to independantly find what they believe in and live accordingly to what they believed why would the crutch of insanity be necessary?
(assuming they where to learn and live an in the spirit of open mindedness)

Originally posted by Empty Dragon

(assuming they where to learn and live an in the spirit of open mindedness)

and does this happen?
i have ideals too, unfortunately unrealized and on the backburner

:)

Originally posted by JLeddon
I'm not there yet, but I can see it coming sometime in my life. Maybe I just think too much, but it's hard for me not to think about it.

There are only two things that can happen to my existence, finality or immortality. Not just in this current state (although it might be final at its completion), but overall. The first is extremely depressing to think about and the first is hard to comprehend.

How do we go about our lives with so little information about the correct answer? Obviously, most people are just so distracted with their day-to-day lives that they don't make time to think about it. Some don't understand the question anyway. What about everyone here? Do you just ignore it?

Of course, I can't go crazy just yet... I've got a beautiful little girl to raise first. :-)



Leddon,


Establishing a relationship with God helped me during my break downs. The only one I could talk to who understood me without judging me. But more importantly he has helped me.

Originally posted by Lady
Leddon,


Establishing a relationship with God helped me during my break downs. The only one I could talk to who understood me without judging me. But more importantly he has helped me.

All Theists who claim to have relationships with God are schizophrenic or they think that their own self is God.

You see, I've talked to "the voice inside me" before. It was me. It has the same voice as do I, the same personality. It's called talking to yourself. Everybody does it. It's just that some idiots say that voice belongs to a higher power.

I talk to myself when I'm bored and there isn't anybody else to talk to. The voice is mine, I call it Mark, it calls me Mark. So am I God? I know I'm not any more a schizo than all those Theistic freaks who think that they talk to God.

<i>"How do we go about our lives with so little information about the correct answer? Obviously, most people are just so distracted with their day-to-day lives that they don't make time to think about it. Some don't understand the question anyway. What about everyone here? Do you just ignore it? "</i>

Well... You can always take pleasure in knowing that you lived. If death is simply the flatliner of nothingness, then your life is a spike of energy within the void. Lucky you. Imagine the odds. :D

Death is a gloomy destiny, but will you care when you're gone?

...is trying to do the same thing and expecting different results :D

"If all people where to independantly find what they believe in and live accordingly to what they believed why would the crutch of insanity be necessary?"

My mom was a nurse. She worked at an asylum for a while. There was a man at the asylum who believed it was his duty to let only the "clean" among us survive. If he was allowed to roam free, well, a lot of supposedly dirty people might not be around today, eh?


"(assuming they where to learn and live an in the spirit of open mindedness)"

What in god's name makes you think people do that? People don't want to learn. They want to live in their little rut that makes them feel safe and secure. Thus, drugs such as marijuana are illegal and the government is trying to make salvia illegal, as one example.

Is insanity brought about because of access stress in the mind/body and madness is simply the bodies natural way of coping?

How do we go about our lives with so little information about the correct answer?

You tell me. I occasionally think about my death which I openly refuse to consider inevitable. Depressing - I concur. In fact it can be very pressing. You have a certain outlook on life and certain plans for the future etc. The fact that you're going to die makes it that much harder to find a meaning in life. At least to me. For what meaning do I live if my death is inevitable? I often find myself thinking about ways of immortality. On some level, in culture, I want to remain immortal. In that way I rest assured that at least part of myself will forever shape the destiny of things to come. Is it odd to wish for immortality?

Still...

I have trouble finding a single meaning for my life and yet I'm striving to achieve so many goals. I've started calling it, after Orwell's 1984, Reality Control or doublethink.

Shai

Life might or might not end after death. That I don't know. All I know is that you have this time right now. Tomorrow might not come but you won't have to deal with that untill tomorrow.

Even if you where to change all of humanity and be remembered for thousands of years. Humanity one day will stop existing then what?

I really don't think its odd to look for immortality. Humans don't want to die because we realize we are alive. Since we realize we are alive and will die doesn't that make life more precious?

But hey If you really want become an Immortal go learn Daoist, Hindu, Buddhist techniques. Some claim its possible.

Lately I've been losing faith in my ability to cope with the tedium and meaninglessness of everyday life. I keep waiting for someone to jump out and go "haha! fooled you! here's your REAL life....."

I get along just fine with everyday people, and can be quite professional, but it's just a fake attitude I put on. I could see it easily become more and more cynical and mocking as the years go by. Deep down I am in agony and dont understand why others aren't afflicted similarly.

I just can't seem to get any satisfaction out of anything that I do. Work, intellectual pursuits, relationships, hobbies. I'm not very social because I honestly have never known anyone that was so fun to hang around with that it makes me want to meet new people.

Oftentimes I just want to stay home and sleep. At least then I am at peace and not thinking about pointless crap.

I understand that it's probably all in my head and just my outlook on life that needs changing, but I just can't seem to shake it. It's not so easy.

As far as immortality, I'm not sure. I don't believe in God, but maybe I should....maybe believing in him could help me cope.

I think I think too much, and I do agree with the original poster that most people are too busy getting the life sucked out of them by television, music, and video games to think about stuff like this.

Why can't I just be more happy (like most other people)?

I've for a long time lived under the presumption that my life ends to death. But I have opened my mind to accept new possibilities. I really don't know if life ends to death and might just try those techniques of eastern religions. Nothing to loose, right? But immortality to win :)

Rarely can I really "live for the moment". I'm always looking into the future and planning ahead. Sometimes it's a problem but sometimes it helps you through. I think it's just the way I am. I could not possibly find the whole meaning of life from a single moment. I'm far too perfectionist and future oriented. I need calendar for my soul! ;)

Anyway. So, I often have trouble getting satisfaction out of day-to-day life. I'm occasionally depressed by mortality. Philosophical problems of life can be very depressing. Still, I've found a clear direction in my life. I find it very peculiar that despite of my philosophical outlook on life I can get great satisfaction out of superficial details. And generally my goals in life are not that high-minded. I manage even if I'm conscious about the great questions of life.

The sane man always thinks he's crazy, and the crazy man always thinks he's fine.

Oh PLEASE tell me this is true.

its true.





feel better?:D