Infulences and their Affects!!! Very Stong Topic!!!

id like to make some strong agurments

as a independent free thinker id like to share some of my "observations". for one id like to talk about the N*gg*r word... our African American or African Canadian friends are deeply offended when someone not of their ethnical background uses this word or even calls them by this name. however!! it is deems perfectly normal when they refeer to themselfs in this manner. how do you get poeple to stop USING such a word when its in movies, songs and stand up comedy. also the fact that in stand up comdey African Americans/Canadians sometimes like to point out how "white" poeple and "black" poeple are diffent (a "white" wont ever get pulled over by a cop... etc etc). many other comedians of other ethnic diversitys like to rovolve their whole comedy act on the same principal. When a "white" person does jokes like that it is EXTREAMLY frowned upon. How cant we be One as a world if we point out our diffences in reality and/or comdey? Poeple become strongly infulenced by what they watch, see, or read in the media now a days. Video games are becoming more realistic everyday, thus poeple are getting MORE and more ideas in their heads. The snipper in the USA a few months back, im quite sure his rampage was due to playing a realistic video game or watching a movie and that, is where he got the idea to be a pychopathic murder. Eventully they are going have realistic flight simulators or something aviable on the market and guess whats going be happening then... poeple stealing planes or what-have you and going on joy rides. anything we hear or see infulences us, for example, a child watches a Scary Bloody vampire movie or somethings and he couldnt sleep all night becuase he thought a bat was going fly into his room and turn into a vampire and suck his blood. Principal works when we are older watch all these movies and getting the idea that "we are all differnt" or getting ideas to "blow someones head off if they piss you off". yes there are ratings when we go to the movies and we should know the differnce between reality and fiction but the IDEA is still in our heads... Where do we draw the line??
"""...if youll excuses me im canadian so im going go play hockey and eat blubber eh?? GeT tHe IDEA?!?"""


Id like to point out that in my statment if I offended ANYONE in ANYWAY I did not mean too. I tryed to clean it up as best as i could but still be able to get my point across, and if you wish to reply to this post keep it as clean as possible!

 

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Using asterisks does not hide or reduce the impact of a known word.

When a white person using the word "nigger", it is usually used as a slur of so-called inferior people; blacks use "nigga" as a term of endearment so as to take the power away from the stigma that "nigger" brings. It is interesting to me that other racial "slurs" -- kike, wop, spot-head, gook -- don't seem seem to have the sting that "nigger" generates.

Why stop? Repeated use often has a desensitizing effect. Whites probably should should feel uncomfortable using the term, but blacks should stop glorifying it, as this merely serves to highlight its use as offensive. As a side-note: in 1999, a D.C. councilman eventually lost his job because a black man mistakenly thought "niggardly" was a racial epithet and reported it as such.

Why are you sure of this?

:m: Peace.

 

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"Whites probably should should feel uncomfortable using the term, but blacks should stop glorifying it" Sorta sums up what i was trying say.

as for a desensitizing effect... not sure on that one... have you listened to some of the rap songs out there... "this N*gger is going shoot you in the ass...." that really shows how much desensitizing is going on...

as for the asterisks, not sure what the policy on racial slurs is on sciforums but i rather play it safe. its like saying fuked instead of fuck...
you know what it means but your not actully saying it

 

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Sure you are.

Letters are symbols that are arranged to form words. Substituting the "i" with "*" in the word "nigger" merely changes one of the symbols. The resulting word is the same.

The question of whether it's OK for an African American to use the word "nigger" is a rather contentious question. There is real power in queer folk calling themselves queer, despite the fact that the word has a long history of being used as a club against gays. When you take a word or idea that has been used against you and turn it into something you claim as a badge of honor, you potentially remove the weapon from your oppressor's hand.

This is not an unproblematic idea, of course; if someone means to say "queer" in a pejorative way, the fact that you use "queer" in a reclamatiave way doesn't make that person's use of it any less obviously threatening. I'll give you that much - reclamative use of words that have been used to threaten and abuse is not without controversey.

But the fact remains: people reclaim abusive words constantly within minority communities.

:m: peace.

 

its a tecnical thing

i play this online game where they wont let you use words like gay and if you do theyll kick you off, but if you say ghey they cant do anything about it.

its a tecnicality, a loop-hole if you will

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poeple with forums have standards too, i choose not to push the limits


as for the word queer being a word of power to them and word of hate for others..... i guess the same is true the word Canuk Or Yankee

but its still divids us

"its a black and white cookie!" - Jerry Sienfield

 

So much for the "independent free thinker" comment!

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:m: Peace.

 

What's in the word?

“id like to talk about the N*gg*r word...”

Can actually write a book on this, …but keeping it to the point. It is similar as if you address to a homosexual as homosexual, a lesbian as lesbian, a fat a fat or a criminal as criminal, particularly if you are non of that!

Peculiar that even if a white boy addresses another one as white boy, it kind of molests.

Even if the words speak the reality, it is the thought behind the word that influences the tone and expressions of our vocabulary. A perfect thing handled by imperfect humans, and that’s nature.

“Poeple become strongly infulenced by what they watch, see, or read in the media now a days. Video games are becoming more realistic everyday, thus poeple are getting MORE and more ideas in their heads.”

In the 70’s a generation grow watching western movies, Indians and cowboys get shoot, throats cut, bank robbery’s, Mafia crimes, horror movies involving hanging, electrocutions, blood thirsting suckers.

…….No one blamed realities of our times with the media. Those days, human life was more preciously accepted and respected as today. Now days, hundreds of people get kill, life continues as normal.

I don’t think that people are getting more and more ideas in their heads, it is more like not getting ideas in their heads that is making the differences. In the old days, parenthood was an obligation, moral and ethic that the majority of parents had to confront and be responsible about it. Now days, who really cares about family values? ...It is always someone else’s fault, the TV, the media in general, the video games, or the bad influences from the neighborhood.

What goes around, comes around. You can be certain of that!

 

this has nothing to do with the topic in hand but hahahah african canadeins is a new one to me....canadeins always seem to hate it when america is mentioned and canada isnt, and they will do anything to slip the word canada into words its not meant to go hehehehe african canadein, thats like saying african scotish, or hes african kiwi.

 

i do have to apologise to the canadian for spelling 'canadein' wrong all the way through my last post, i now realise its 'canadian' please take it easy on me.

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I agree to an extent. I can see how they use it in a non-derogatory way, but i also see how exposure to the word would make some more "urban" whites think its ok. A kid at my school calls his italian friend a "dego" today and i was totally offended, seeing as i am proudly italian. Yet the other kid didn't even get mad. which makes no sense to me. And even if another italian called me a dego or whop, i'd still be uncomfortable.

I TOTALLY and EMPHATICALLY agree with this. Def Comedy Jam is a prime example. why is it racist for whites to talk about blacks as a whole, but blacks can call whites anything they want. I actually heard a black comedian say once that it was impossable for a b lack to be racist against whites, because any angry feelings towards white was a result of how bad his ancestors were treated. This is ludicrous.

i dunno about that one...I think some people are just crazy. I generally don't think people (as a whole) take video games that seriously.

 

*snipper* hahahahahaha...

A Canadian, you're a moron.

- Warren

 

It is true that certain aspersions that were once regarded as repuganat or soridid have been reduced in their vulgarity. I suppose that humans do become "desensitized"(That how you spell it?). However, the nigger does not seem to have lost any of its rude, vitriolic potency when used by a white to a black. Under those circumstances, it is a deplorable, socially unacceptable slur. Even so, blacks seem to be indifferent to their perpetuation of this slur. THEY are the ones who have maintained the damn word! STUPID NIGGERS!

As to the subtle persuasions of modern media, I view the result as inevitable. Considerable numbers of people simply revel in charnel, lurid video games and violent or eldritch movies. Eh GAD! Did you see that Movie, THE RING. When watching that, I nearly urinated down my leg!
Numerous people are enamored with thrills. They rejoice in fright and death. Vexed persons like myself are umimportant, and those who are easily influenced into undesirable conduct are just bizarre cases. They are to be expected.

 

Don't you just hate it when people go around snipping things?

 

Yes, I was trying to think of some joke... about tin snips, or newspaper snippings, or something, but just couldn't make it funny.

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- Warren

 

what is this a spelling bee? you knew what i ment didnt you?



"ok billy, spell couch"
"c... r..... areeeee you going to the movies later?"
"c.. o... u... c.... h...."
"correct!"
"i am the greatest man alive!"
- Billy Madison

 

Yeah, but you're a moron, thus we get to make fun of your sorry ass.

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why am i a moron? accedents happen, be it a spelling mistake or you being born....

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'OUCH! I kid i kid!

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"heyyyy your allright" - Rodney Dangerfield

 

i once observed a long and loud argument on white people using the the word nigger. the baisc conclusion was this: if the black person you're refering to is cool with you using it, then fine. but I woudn't assume that every black person you meet will be.

i don't really like anyone using the word so much. i was very surprised when i first learned that it was comonly used by black folks. i was taught when i was young that it was a horrible word, and none of the black folks i knew used it. but then one day listened to some hiphop....

 

I don't know if you meant "How can we...." but knowing we are different gives us motivation to live and work. As for all types of media influences, it's all a big cycle. We get what we want to see (violence, sex....etc) because we are supposedly suppressed by society to act relatively "decent." The decency is what makes everything function (commerce to name one). We are sold what we want, the majority of people, living in a society of commerce and "suppression," can't deny themselves of pleasures such as sex and power....(that includes violence, it makes us feel powerful even to be associated with it).

They already do and have been on the market for quite awhile. Flying a plane isn't easy enough to read a manual and hop right on, you need actual experience, simulators on the market won't give you that.

 

normally I like Canadian comedians