India to launch Israeli satellite.: US halts process

This is really funny:

Israeli media reports Indian press report:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...95546795593&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

The September launch of an Israeli spy satellite from India, which now faces months of postponements, was canceled due to "last-minute" pressure by the United States, the Indian press reported Monday.

The paper hinted that the reason for the American pressure was to prevent India from obtaining powerful military platforms. Earlier this year, the paper said, the US curtailed Indian plans to develop missiles with a 5,000-kilometer range and advised it to only manufacture missiles with a range of 800 km.

Should it occur, it would be the first time Israel launches a satellite aboard an Indian missile.

The decision to launch the missile from India was reached three years ago during a visit there by then-Defense Ministry director-general Amos Yaron. It is part of growing Indian-Israeli cooperation, which is scheduled to eventually lead to the launching of two more satellites.

Indian media reports Israeli press report:

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200712041968.htm

Israel has rubbished reports that Jerusalem has halted the launch of its TechSAR satellite aboard Indian launcher under US pressure, terming it "speculative writing" with "no substance" to it. Israeli defence sources brushed aside reports in the media that the jewish nation has halted the launch of its TechSAR satellite aboard Indian Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle under US pressure, saying it was "speculative writing" with "no substance" to it.

"A lot of speculative writing has been going on around without any substance to it. The launch has not been carried out due to technical reasons and will be scheduled once we get a green signal from Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO)," defence sources here said.

The sources also expressed dismay at the way media recently reported about a 'planned trip' of Israeli defence minister to India, even 'drawing out an imaginary programme', though nothing of that sort was then being discussed.

 

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That's too bad.

 

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Now even India is helping the Jews, now what do you think about that SpAM, not just the U.S. but India is willing to put a spy satellite in to orbit for the Israelis, want to bet that it will be used to keep tabs on the Palestinians?

 

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Whatever contributes to the peace process, barring interference from the Americans.

 

India putting in orbit a spy satellite to spy on the Palestinians, and SpAM is ok with that, we all know how she would scream if it was the U.S. who did that, talk about a double standard, you had no creditability before, now your in negative numbers.

Yes the caste system is still the natural way of life in India.

 

I'm surprised Israelis don't have their own means of delivering a satellite into space? Anyway, I doubt it's about "peace" - it's more about cementing trade and millitary cooperation. India and Israel share the common problem of having unfriendly Muslim neighbors. It doesn't surprise me to see the two sharing intel and millitary tech.

I think the USA just wants in on the $$$.

 

Yeah, though I bet the Israelis want to use the technological exports as a means of getting India to vote with them in the UN.

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Fortunately we have too many investments all over the board. And weak as he is, Manmohan is the right sort.

And by peace I meant mediator, though India is sluggish in taking active part in mediation these days, which we would like to see more of (the mediation, not the sluggishness). We have a good relationship with Israel, Palestine and Iran (and China and Russia) which puts us in a unique position here.

 

What is "powerful military platforms" hinting at? India already has a rocket capable of lofting the satellite to orbit. The satellite is already atop the rocket and the satellite has been in India's possession for a considerable period of time allowing it to learn whatever it can up close. India already knows how to mate such satellites to their rocket and how to deploy them on orbit.

Supposedly preventing India from pushing the launch button doesn't seem to prevent India from obtaining anything other than more experience pushing the launch button.

 

Perhaps, but isn't that horrible? Take somebody's country, and then keep tabs on them? Come on man, you say you stand for equality and peace.


And again, WHAT IS WITH YOU AND JEWS. YOU ARE CHRISTIAN. Geez, Jesus must be ashamed now.

 

Everyone spies on everyone. It's a historically proven method for keeping the peace -- for the most part.

Umm, Jesus was a Jew. Christians have always been with it with Jesus.

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Hell, I'm an atheist and even I know that.

 

According to the news report,

You may understand that better than I.

 

One can assume that India as yet does not possess a 5,000 km range rocket. One can assume India has an 800 km range rocket able to lift a 300 kg satellite. That's a small satellite, as the average satellite currently weighs 1700 kg. For it's proper function of high resolution imaging it has to be in low Earth orbit.

A 5,000 km range rocket would be an unnecessary expense for Israel's TecSar low Earth orbit satellite.

 

And this explains the US reluctance to allow India to launch the Israeli rocket (assuming the Indian news media report is right) because...?

 

Nope.

It brings focus to the questioning of what exactly was the intent of the news reporting if the reporting wasn't reporting much of anything of actual substance?

 

Umm it shows a pattern that may explain the reason for the US alarm?

Would the Israelis be giving up any technology to the Indians through this exchange?

 

America supposedly -- according to the reporting -- inserted itself into the process at the last minute. Too late to stop technology transfer. Too early to prevent India launching a currently non-existant 5,000 km range rocket to loft the Israeli satellite.

Whatever was behind the supposed American interference, it had nothing to do with rolling back technology transfer or Indian experience launching a rocket it doesn't yet possess built with engineering and manufacturing it hasn't yet perfected.

The reporters may think there's something nefarious afoot, they just haven't a clue what it is -- if there is an is.

 

Perhaps in your infinite wisdom you could hazard a guess?

( secret opium transactions of the CIA perhaps?)

 

My guess?

Israel agreed to share with India imagery of Pakistan. America, needing Musharaff's continued support for its counter-terror operations in Afghanistan and Waziristan (at risk of that support being withdrawn), strong-armed Israel to postpone the launch until a more propitious future time when Pakistan's opinions on the matter were of less consequence to the grand scheme of things.

Me being infinitely wise is not a hazard to me, btw.

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Hmm, sounds reasonable. But don't we have our own satellite trained on Pak?

 

I also am sometimes benevolent.

What if it's looking at China at the time you need it to be looking at Pakistan?