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View Full Version : India, Brazil most "green"
If I had not lived outside India, I would never believe it. I always thought we wasted too much until I saw how people in other countries lived. :eek:
A new global survey reveals which country's citizens have the most environmentally friendly lifestyles by examining the impact of individual consumer behavior.
Consumers in Brazil and India tied as most "green," while those in the United States scored lowest, or most wasteful.
To create the survey, GlobeScan conducted Internet surveys of consumers in 14 countries, which together represent more than half of the world's population and use about 75 percent of its energy.
Rather than measuring each nation's environmental impact, the Greendex compares the behaviors of individuals in four key areas: housing, transportation, food, and consumer goods.
Brazilians and Indians each scored 60 on the sustainable-consumption scale. Citizens of other nations scored as follows: China (56.1); Mexico (54.3); Hungary (53.2); Russia (52.4); Great Britain, Germany and Australia (each at 50.2); Spain (50); Japan (49.1); France (48.7); Canada (48.5); and the U.S. (44.9).
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/05/080507-greendex-results.html
Perhaps if the wealth was distributed evenly or remotely evenly the numbers would be different. So i guess from your perspective on this that poverty is a good thing. Most likely the billions in the lower classes lower the numbers and the few hundred millionaires even it out. See how nicely things work out for ya?
Life is good isnt it?:mad::mad::mad:
This is a measure of behaviour, not money. For example, do you open the window or turn on the A/C? Do you walk from the market or take your car? Do you use fresh produce or stuff that comes with packaging and cans? Do you carry a tote for shopping or bring back stuff in plastic bags? Since only people with the internet were asked we can assume none of them were starving.
inzomnia 05-08-08, 07:48 PM Do you carry a tote for shopping or bring back stuff in plastic bags?
Too bad Chile wasn’t surveyed. In Chile, at least in the city where I live now, if you go to Supermarket and buy quite different stuffs, they will pack your stuffs into many different plastics, say, plastic for wet organic, dry organics, non-food, etc. I bring my own plastic and always ask them to put everything in one place. But imagine how many plastics per day they use and purge. I wanted to write an article about it in the local paper, but there is none in English, all must be written in Spanish *sigh*
Syzygys 05-08-08, 07:55 PM It is called POVERTY. When you don't have a car, you walk or ride a bicycle,when you don't have AC, you open the window... :)
Of course Indians are very green, because poverty is everywhere...
It is called POVERTY. When you don't have a car, you walk or ride a bicycle,when you don't have AC, you open the window... :)
Of course Indians are very green, because poverty is everywhere...
Let me repeat it slowly for you. A computer and internet connection will not be found in the home of a person making less $2 a day (average salary for middle class Indian 5,000 to 20,000; average cheap computer, ~40,000 ). Nor will (surprise!) an internet connection. In fact, they come far far down on the list of the AVERAGE Indian. You'd have to be reasonably middle-class and as priorities go, a car would come BEFORE a computer, not after.
Hence, the demographic being addressed is not the starving laborer who trudges to work for 50 rupees worth of hard labor all day.
edit: hmm they've released a cheaper computer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4735927.stm) but I'm not sure of the penetration.
Syzygys 05-08-08, 11:20 PM Well, we don't know what the questions were in the survey, but the other 3-4 top countries are also generally poor....
Poor people are generally more effective with using everything because they have LESS of it...
General population create severe interdependencies through technology. Take away that, the life crawls to a stop. The goal should be to create local independence when supply chain is broken. Before technology, people lived in local independence and we call that green when they live in basic survival mode.
If you really want to live green, work from home with a internet connection rather going to work polluting the air. Use solar panels to produce energy and so on...
India is buying coal to produce 220 GW of power. Did not sign nuclear treaty with USA to use nuclear fuel.....Now burning about 500 million tons of coal per year is Green?
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