Immigration and terrorism in Europe?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by desi, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. desi Valued Senior Member

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    I have a question about something that doesn't make sense to me. Europe has been taking in millions of immigrants who are Muslim. These people are from a totally different culture than Europeans have. Now Europe has trouble getting these people to fit in and terrorism is happening. Who thought it was such a great idea to import all these immigrants in the first place? Isn't it obvious this trouble would happen sooner or later?
     
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  3. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Shortage of workers. Besides most terrorist movements are of European origin.
    And the death toll is not that big any way.

    I mean, look at 11.09., it were just a few thousand people, and that was in the USA. More die in traffic accidents or from smoking every year.
     
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  5. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Europe never experienced this kind of terrorism before the US led illegal invasion of Iraq, a country which never attacked the US and was never a threat. Islam has been in the west long before 9/11 happened. You have dozens of Muslim who you see in your everyday life but you would be surprised to hear they are Muslim and you use dozens of things in your everyday life which the Muslims brought to the West. Chcuking all of them in with terrorists is unfair.
     
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  7. desi Valued Senior Member

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    When did the citizens of Europe ask for these foreign workers?

    Its more a matter of culture clash than people dying at this point. But we have seen some moments of civil disturbance which should cause concern.
     
  8. desi Valued Senior Member

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    Europe had terrorism from Muslims before America was invaded by white people. Read your history.
     
  9. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Europe will turn Islamic sooner or later.
     
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Only if the extremists are not eradicated.
     
  11. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    extremists? you mean non Muslims?
     
  12. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Very cute.....no, I mean extremists of all religions.
     
  13. vincent Sir Vincent, knighted by HM Registered Senior Member

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    "you would be surprised to hear they are Muslim and you use dozens of things in your everyday life which the Muslims brought to the West."

    Yes i would be very, very, suprised if you could name one thing i use in my everyday life that muslims brought to the west?

    Muslims are not known to have invented anything, i know of plenty of things your using right now that was invented in the west, everthing from your computer to the lightbulb, & your TV.

    I have tried many times on google to find such muslim inventions, i think there is one somewhere but that is debatable by all accounts.


    So i see because the US invaded iraq that is the reason why there are so many european terroists now, as i recall they were not in iraq when sept 11 took place, maybe the fanatics are not reading the same script as you?

    Why are the muslim fanatic terroists in the phillipines, thailand, india, morroco, china, whats there crimes?

    Why are they in holland killing?
    Why did they try to kill a danish cartoonist?
    Why have they killed hundreds of tourists in egypt in the last 15 years?

    Most these things have nothing to do with iraq, yet you guys use iraq & israel to justify terroism in the world today, yet you never mention countries fighting these fanatics year in & year out in there countries.

    China has been fighting muslim fanatics for over 30 years, whats china's crimes in iraq?


    there had been numerous jetliners blown up pre iraq all by muslim fanatics, one in scotland, libya the culprit.
    There have been cruise liners hijacked, with a 70year old wheelchair man thrown overboard like garbage, all pre iraq.

    Believe it of not this terroism has been going on for decades, you can throw iraq in the air as much as you want, it means nothing, anyone who has followed world events in the last 20 years knows the amount of terroism by muslim fanatics far outweighs all the other religons put together.


    Who are you kidding here?
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's the legacy of colonization. In many cases, these people already speak the language.
     
  15. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Im not saying Muslims invented everything. They invented some and some was brought to the West through the Muslims.

    Coffee:
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee#History

    Al-Jazari’s stuff:
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jazari

    Chess:

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Origins_of_the_modern_game_.281450.E2.80.931850.29

    Cleanliness is another important thing. Read up on Al-Zahrawi, called by Geronimo Cardano as ‘one of the 12 giant minds of history’, and what he did. Also read up on Sake Dean Mahomet:

    At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake_Dean_Mahomet#.22Dr._Brighton.22 Read up on al-Kindi and his works.

    How about the Banu Musa Brothers:

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Musa

    Or what about Ibn al-Haytham:

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Haytham

    Come back when youve read up on those and youre still not satisfied.

    Which invention was that?

    September 11 took place because US foreign policy had already wrecked a lot of other countries.

    Are they the only ones?

    You mean Van Gogh? Wait, what was Volkert van der Vaart again?
    Im not psychic. You can answer this for yourself.

    Ask them.

    Were not saying that terrorism only started because of Iraq. If you think we say that then you should read what we said again. What we are saying is that the Iraq invasion fanned the flames then times. Its no surprise that terrorist attacks have risen since the US invaded Iraq and enslaved the people.

    I found this:
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Ethnic_Groups Ah yes, the bloodthirsty animals! What exactly are you saying?

    You mean these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_aircraft_hijackings

    When was that? Give me info on it.

    As has Western terrorism, economical and physical.

    You are kidding yourself so it cant be you.
     
  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Western Europe has been importing foreign workers for decades. Their fertility rate has dropped below replacement level so they need immigrants to keep their economy from shrinking. The USA is entering the same phase now, it's just that many of our citizens don't understand that or just can't do the math.
    I doubt it. They have just finished dumping Christianity, or at least reducing it to a bunch of innocuous celebrations. They've finally managed to overcome their national differences and have started to build a real union. The last thing they're going to do is embrace another of the Abrahamic religions that reinforce tribalism and will take them backwards into the Bronze Age.
     
  17. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Europe needs the distraction of a violently aggressive outside invader to unify them; otherwise, they'd be killing one another with gay abandon.
     
  18. chuuush Registered Senior Member

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    Europe just has to accept foreign immigration if it wants to continue its current level of welfare. They have stopped reproduction, marriage rates are falling day by day and divorce rates are on the increase. The family institution in Europe has been shakes by sexism and the labor force is shrinking fast. They do not have another alternative, and they should be thankful to the foreignimmigrants as much as the immigrants should be thankful to them.
     
  19. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Something about Lockerbie...:bugeye:
     
  20. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, you mean like those bombings by the IRA?

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