Votorx
01-13-04, 10:41 AM
What if I were to say that you did not exist? That you and everything sorrouding me is a figment of MY imagination. What would you do? And how do you know that you aren't or are a figment of MY imagination?
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View Full Version : Imagination Votorx 01-13-04, 10:41 AM What if I were to say that you did not exist? That you and everything sorrouding me is a figment of MY imagination. What would you do? And how do you know that you aren't or are a figment of MY imagination? Mephura 01-13-04, 10:44 AM Honestly? I would say that that might well be the case, but there is no way for you or I to ever truly know. James R 01-13-04, 08:23 PM I'm fairly sure I'm not a figment of your imagination, but I can't be sure you're not a figment of my imagination. shadowpuppet 01-13-04, 08:26 PM Why should i care? Cyperium 01-14-04, 07:09 AM I'm fairly sure I'm not a figment of your imagination, but I can't be sure you're not a figment of my imagination.I agree on that. But I rather think we are a figment of God's imagination. Votorx 01-14-04, 10:27 AM Why should i care? You should care because once I cease to exist you will as well. I agree on that. But I rather think we are a figment of God's imagination. That would be impossible wouldn't it. Since god is all knowing and all powerful he couldn't possible consume up a whole functioning universe using his imagination. And, with the risk of a topic change, how would you know that god even exists. You don't which leads to other possibities. For all we know you can be someone's dream or imagination. Kinda like that video game Final Fantasy X. Ellimist 01-14-04, 09:58 PM Solipsism. There is a flaw in it. David Deutsch discusses the flaw in "The Fabric of Reality". Cyperium 01-15-04, 04:59 AM You should care because once I cease to exist you will as well. That would be impossible wouldn't it. Since god is all knowing and all powerful he couldn't possible consume up a whole functioning universe using his imagination. And, with the risk of a topic change, how would you know that god even exists. You don't which leads to other possibities. For all we know you can be someone's dream or imagination. Kinda like that video game Final Fantasy X.It might just be so that what He imagines is reality to us "as the heavens are higher than the ground, so are my thoughts higher than your thoughts, and my ways higher than your ways". Maybe, it is a possibility that it actually is that way. We exist in God's image. So we can do most of the things that God can (if not everything) but we can only do so to a certain degree (which we can call the human ability). Light is still light even if it's weaker, we can see it as light that fades away from the source, where God is the source. And light is existance -?- maybe. Votorx 01-16-04, 09:18 AM What proof do you have that light is existance? cosmictraveler 01-16-04, 05:57 PM What if I were to say that you did not exist? That you and everything sorrouding me is a figment of MY imagination. What would you do? And how do you know that you aren't or are a figment of MY imagination? Your allowed to see things as you think they are. Your world is something that you build over the years and however you precieve it to be , that's what you live for. Whenever you die your world will die with you and I as well as all the others will cease to exist to you. It matters not as to what your thoughts are about anyone elses existance for we know that we already are here and now to us and we are all that matters to us. machaon 01-21-04, 02:42 AM What if I were to say that you did not exist? That you and everything sorrouding me is a figment of MY imagination. What would you do? And how do you know that you aren't or are a figment of MY imagination? OH MY GOD! PLEASE do more research before bombarding this forum with the same old, tired philosophical condundrums. (yawns) Cyperium 01-21-04, 05:10 AM What proof do you have that light is existance?It was a analogy. Where God is the source and light is existance. In a analogy which describes how everything fades away from existance, causing it to more or less exist, though it is the same light, it can be on different levels of existance. Thus imagination for God (which is on the highest level of existance) could equal existance to us, while imagination to us equals a weak kind of reality (a less existant reality). Though I think it's possible to imagine something that actually manifests itself in reality, though it may never be accomplished. Still the possibilities are greater than we can imagine. |