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It is pop not soda!!

Perhaps in your neck of the woods... but not in civilization.

actually we call everything in louisiana coke, even if it's sprite. i don't really know why, but that's how it is. in fact, we make fun of people when they say pop or soda. haha

Hehe

http://www.popvssoda.com/countystats/total-county.gif

lmao! that is soo funny! hahahaha

That map is the truth. I remember calling soft drinks "pop." When I moved down south, I say soda or coke... but lately I have been calling drinks by their names.

aww looky.. im navy blue. 80-100% pop. :D

HealthScoutNews reports the results: Orange juice and Pepsi were equally harmful to teeth, followed next by apple juice. Diet Pepsi was not only the least likely drink to soften the teeth, but also the least likely to cause cavities.

why is pepsi diet not equally harmful to teeth. It must have the same acidity and the report claims it is the acidity of pops, sodas softdrinks, limonade, or whatever that is so dangerous?

pepsi is harmful too the teeth?!:eek: I drink it by the gallons :(

I think it's because diet pop has less sugar and more aspertame. I don't know why they do this because in my opinion both diet coke and regular coke are equally as sweet (why wouldn't they put aspertame in normal coke if causes less damage to your teeth). Aspertame has long been thought of as a "dangerous substance" for medical reasons. Check this (http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/aspart2.txt) out to see what kind of effects aspertame can supposedly produce.

maybe...but what about the acidity? They claim it is a main contributor to enamel decay. Can aspertame cancel this effect so effectively?

both coke and pepsi are equally dangerous beacuse they both have an acid that they use to clean trucks:(

Cool. I'll win so many bets when I claim that I will drink truck-cleaning acid.

but what about the acidity? They claim it is a main contributor to enamel decay. Can aspertame cancel this effect so effectively? Can't remember why, but the sugar content is a contributor to the acidity. They tested cola-like drinks, the ones you can use instead of Draino. What about ones like Sunkist, other flavors?

From the UofM School of Dentistry, 2000 (a pamphlet I pick up)
Ph (acidity, the low the number the more acidic), Sugar content (12 oz serving)

Pure water: 7 (neutral), 0.0
Barq’s: 4.61 , 10.7tsp
Diet Barq’s: 4.55 , 0.0
Diet 7up: 3.67, 0.0
Sprite: 3.42 , 9.0tsp
Diet Dr. Pepper: 3.41 , 0.0
Diet Coke: 3.39 , 0.0
Diet Mountain Dew: 3.34 0.0
Grape Minute Maid Soda: 3.29 , 11.9tsp
Mountain Dew: 3.22 , 11.0tsp
Fresca: 3.20 , 0.0
Orange slice: 3.12 , 11.9tsp
Diet Pepsi: 3.05 , 0.0
Nestea: 3.04 , 5.0tsp
Surge: 3.02 , 10.0tsp
Gatorade: 2.95 , 3.3tsp
Dr. Pepper: 2.92 , 9.5tsp
Squirt: 2.85 , 9.5tsp
Hawaiian Fruit Punch: 2.82 , 10.2tsp
Orange Minute Maid Soda: 2.80 , 11.2tsp
Coke Classic: 2.53 , 9.3tsp
Pepsi: 2.49 , 9.8tsp
Battery Acid: 1.00(ouch) , 0.0

Main causes for Acidity are: Phosphoric acid, Citric acid and Carbonated water.

The carbonate ions are the most oxidized form of carbonic acid, to further your list, WellCooked. (I know you said the same thing).

I don't think sugar is very acidic, although the protons on the few hydroxyl groups are perhaps slightly acidic.

Knowing this information, why do people go on drinking soft drinks of any kind? They're not good for you, at all...they're not even really thirst-quenching.

They taste good...Or they make liquor taste good.

:eek: *Gags and falls off chair.*

Falling off chairs? It seems you lack energy...a mountain dew would help. :p

Its not sugar acidity that's the problem: its the aerobic bacteria in your mouth digesting the sugar that’s the problem!

Dr. Pepper: 2.92 , 9.5tsp
Squirt: 2.85 , 9.5tsp wow.. thats all we drink at my house. lol.. (as far as pop goes)

although i did eat battery acid once when i was little. i thought it was melted chocolate (yes, i was a little fatty).. so i took a fingerful off the table, licked it off.. and screamed like no other... lots of bread and water....

now that i think about it.. my mom never did call poison control... :bugeye:

What kind of battery was it, was it a car battery?

SO4H2 does not cause lasting problems (from small quantities non-chronic exposure), in the body it is converted into SO2, chronic exposure (noted studies of Sulfur plant workers) can cause permanent tissue damage and cancer, though Sulfuric acid is believe not the be a direct carcinogen.

Is there any conclusive evidence tyhat aspartame is bad news?

I have seen many links and references saying it is, and many saying it isn't, it seems like a a myth, but it also seems like somethign to pay attention to.

anyone have any conclusive and substantial evidence that it is as dangerous as many peopel claim, preferably charts or data that tells how much is dangerous, like...would drinking one diet soda a week really be all that bad?

etc.

thanks.

What kind of battery was it, was it a car battery? just regular batteries.. probably 9volt i think.. from my big bird and cookie monster telephones...

I did an experiment my self testing aspartame as a mutagen, I did a standard fruit fly attached X mutagen test and the results show positive (statically relevant lower rate of males over control)! Aspartame in the blood is theorized to decay into methanol (wood alcohol), formaldehyde (wicked carcinogen) and phenylalanine (amino acid, toxic at high levels) though the coke companies and Nutrasweet deny this vigorously. Many scientific studies have been done demonstrating aspartame as a poison, the above companies have managed to counter these claims (by means only some form of divine evil would know for certain http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/sgrin.gif )

NightFall,

then it was probably a alkaline battery which is much worse (has both barium and manganese in it)!

I like milk.

So, Fetus....it is proven then? and the sources I have read that disprove it are generally false? or faux-science?

what about the amount of Aspartame it takes to cause harm(or just any slight unpleasant effects) to humans?

refer to my earlier question, how many cans of diet soda(would you say) with aspartame before you stand a risk of being harmed by it?

thanks for your reply!:)

Nope the FDA does not recognize it as such.

Here is teh MSDS on Aspartame: http://www.dsm.com/hsc/safety/msds/%7Edown/MSDS_aspartaam.pdf

Originally posted by WellCookedFetus
Its not sugar acidity that's the problem: its the aerobic bacteria in your mouth digesting the sugar that’s the problem!

very funny...the study claimed acidity as a major problem and hence the problem remains. Why is it then that diet pepsi is not equally bad for your teeth than regular pepsi.

apparently the study is wrong then.

The bacteria usually produce acidic by-products from metabolizing the sugar. So technically, there wouldn't be as much exposure to acids if you drank a diet soda/pop/whatever, because there is no sugar for the bacteria to metabolize. The only acid your teeth would be exposed to would be the acids in the pop/soda.

so it is a cumulative effect in normal pepsi?

Originally posted by fadingCaptain
Falling off chairs? It seems you lack energy...a mountain dew would help. :p
doesn't mountain dew lower sperm count

so it is a cumulative effect in normal pepsi?
That's what I'm thinking.

How do you know what the study claimed spuriousmonkey? Did you read or copy parts of it? For your information the titled of the pamphlet is "Sugar & Acid = Double Trouble"

time is money and I only read part of the conclusion.

Wait a second...... 'soda-drinks' are acidic instead of alcaline? Whoa, I've misbelieved somethng for long.... I always thought that carbonate always have something to do with alcaline.....
Also, what makes the mountain dew so acidic? Wait, which mountain dew is discussed there?
And I think I'll really try to stay away from soda....

Well, carbonate contributes to 'alkalinity', which acts as a buffer against addition of acids to a solution. Carbonate ions are excellent at increasing the buffering capacity of water (ie. they increase the alkalinity). The pop, soda, whatever is acidic because they blast CO_{<font size="2">2</font>} into the solution, which bonds with water to form carbonic acid (H_{<font size="2">2</font>}CO_{<font size="2">3</font>}).

*edited some errors in interpreting notes

Originally posted by Jerrek
It is pop not soda!!

It's COKE, not POP or SODA!

I drink Coke.. But that's because it says Coke on the bottle. If it said Sprite or Dr. Pepper, or anything other than Coke, than it's "soda" or "pop". Coke is a brand name, not a product type.

And notice that in the above map, more areas use "pop", but the most populated areas use "soda"(with the exception of the Dallas, texas area, no real surprise there... ;) ). I wonder what the population percentage for each term is nationwide, as opossed to geographical mapping?

Yes, let's in the map I live near the NY area. Anyhoo what is the difference between Pepsi and Coke. They taste the same anyway. People i know prefer Pepsi over Coke. What do you Prefer.....

What that map tells me is that the midatlantic states, california, chicago area, etc are truly the only progressive parts of this nation. I mean truly what kinda of moron calls soda "pop, or "coke"??? Absolutely moronic. :D

i know evey body should just shut up and call soda, soda

just call it carbonate...... no matter what they say, it's it.

I can argee on calling it "piss water" and nothing else.

Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Is there any conclusive evidence tyhat aspartame is bad news?

I have seen many links and references saying it is, and many saying it isn't, it seems like a a myth, but it also seems like somethign to pay attention to.

anyone have any conclusive and substantial evidence that it is as dangerous as many peopel claim, preferably charts or data that tells how much is dangerous, like...would drinking one diet soda a week really be all that bad? Aspartame decomposes into methanol, which is converted to formaldehyde in the liver. Formaldehyde is very bad for you. That being said, there's no reason to think that it’s unsafe to use aspartame on food. The amount of methanol produced by its decomposition is far too low to cause problems, even if you drink a lot of it. You would probably get more methanol from a glass of wine than you would from a diet coke. A person has to expose themselves to truly gigantic quantities of aspartame before it becomes a serious risk.

in Massachusetts, we call everything 'tonic' (at least in the greater Boston area)

when i first moved to NY, i was surprised to get real tonic when i ordered a 'tonic'

see tonic = piss water... same thing.