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supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 05:05 PM What would be, in your opinion, the best way to direct you life based on the problems that plauge mankind currently? In my opinion, if I where the perfect person (or even close) I would dedicate my life to eliminating starvation because in my opinion if you have more then the basics to survive and others dont, your cheating others for your own benefit. Ive devised a plan and I want you all to comment on it. In order to to completely eliminate starvation, you need a constant, never ending supply of food. You need a buisness where people are going to be buying your product. I was thinking of starting supermarket advertising that all of the proceeds (besides the cost to sustain the buisness) will be used to purchase food and equipment for the poor. I would advertise that all you have to do is buy your groceries from my food chain and you will be helping the starving, disease infested children, I think people would choose my supermarket over otheres that are just using the profit for their own selfish personal gain. It would be like donating to red cross, but your not really losing any of your personal money because you have to buy groceries anyways. Would this be an unfair marketing ploy? Would it be legal or would i be prosecuted for a Monopoly of the Industry?
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 05:09 PM Call it:
Generous Food Bill
there is no such thing as perfect life. We can come close though.
spidergoat 04-10-07, 05:11 PM Wouldn't it make more sense to limit the total number of people on Earth through birth control? Then the problems of food supply could be solved with traditional techniques.
I actually talk about attaining close to perfect most efficient life, here:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=52529
nanotechnology
illusions
and nuclear energy
Nikelodeon 04-10-07, 05:13 PM There is enough food to feed everyone on the planet. But not everyone can pay for it.
Wouldn't it make more sense to limit the total number of people on Earth through birth control? Then the problems of food supply could be solved with traditional techniques.
who gets to get birth controlled? And were is free will now?
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 05:16 PM I think the GFB is a great idea supremebeingindeed, and people could come up with some great ideas for how to maximize the effect of the proceeds for the poor.
one_raven 04-10-07, 05:20 PM There is enough food to feed everyone on the planet. But not everyone can pay for it.
Exactly.
There is no food supply problem, only political problems.
By the way, I think it is a great idea.
Start Here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=starting+a+not+for+profit)
Exactly.
There is no food supply problem, only political problems.
By the way, I think it is a great idea.
Start Here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=starting+a+not+for+profit)
The problem lies in people, their false ideals, their low will power.
darksidZz 04-10-07, 05:21 PM It is clear what must be done, we must eliminate the poor and hungary, then once the lower mammals are wiped out we can begin eliminating those not of above average intellect. Once we have removed these 2 strains from society we can then begin to build utopia. Of course we'll need to limit births, and when a child is born we should do testing to insure it's fit to live. Humans are silly, we can change everything by controlling the people on our planet, through control we can then begin to minimize foods given to all. By limiting food to sludge and the easily made sludge will become all food we use, dragon knows what I speak of..
It is clear what must be done, we must eliminate the poor and hungary, then once the lower mammals are wiped out we can begin eliminating those not of above average intellect. Once we have removed these 2 strains from society we can then begin to build utopia. Of course we'll need to limit births, and when a child is born we should do testing to insure it's fit to live. Humans are silly, we can change everything by controlling the people on our planet, through control we can then begin to minimize foods given to all. By limiting food to sludge and the easily made sludge will become all food we use, dragon knows what I speak of..
no I do not know. All people are created equally. people must change themselves. Killing is not an option.
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 05:26 PM Dark Side. By making comments like that, its shows why you are a 26 year old virgin.
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 05:27 PM lol again.....26 year old VIRGIN....i bet you only tell people that dont know, that
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IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 05:28 PM You mean chicks don't dig Eliminator kinds o' guys?
darksidZz 04-10-07, 05:31 PM Yes, they don't dig them if they're nice guys. We nice guys are the scurge of society, we do all the trash jobs and let people treat us like garbage. Honestly you should consider that nice men are better than gerks, oh well.
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 05:34 PM How can an Eliminator kind o' guy also be a nice guy?
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 05:34 PM darkside is to feminine for the feminine women....he uses girl lingo...like "gerk" and "nice guy" then he does all the trash jobs and on top of that he lets people treat him like garbage like an abused women.
ouch
How can an Eliminator kind o' guy also be a nice guy?
liberating people of their painful lives.
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 05:38 PM Oh, I see, like Dr. Kevorkian, the chicks loved him.
darksidZz 04-10-07, 05:50 PM darkside is to feminine for the feminine women....he uses girl lingo...like "gerk" and "nice guy" then he does all the trash jobs and on top of that he lets people treat him like garbage like an abused women.
ouch
How to remedy this might help! :shrug:
How to remedy this might help! :shrug:
create illusions of being evil. :p easy
nietzschefan 04-10-07, 05:59 PM http://www.sulekha.com/groups/postdisplay.aspx?cid=728474&forumid=756919
and
Can you beat up these guys first:
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2001Q1/berman1.html
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 06:07 PM This thread has taken on an unproductive role and i feel bad for making fun of you so i will afford you my advice. Its ok to be a nice guy but not alright for u to let urself get pushed around. If your scared to fight, go to your local mixed martial arts gym and train it, lift weights, do plometric routines to improve coordination. Go to your local dance studio and learn to dance, women love a good dancer. Stop feeling so bad about yourself and writing rediculous articles on your website, nobody really feels bad about you except for you because you write in a pathetic kind of way. Real people understand that if you have a problem you must find a real way to solve it, you seem to like you enjoy your lifestyle because you write about it so much. I also read the part of what a 26 year old virgin would like to do to a women, thats disgusting and shallow even if its true, learn some morals, only a women can bring out the real man in you because you will want to impress her and treat her right. These is brief but certainly things you need to work on, there is a difference between a nice guy and a nice guy that lets other dudes push him around. Im a nice guy but I wouldnt hesitate to stomp a mudhole in someones ass if they tryed chumpin on me, handle yourself like a man. Your 26 bro, get a grip or you will end up killing yourself or something horrible for no reason.
spidergoat 04-10-07, 06:11 PM who gets to get birth controlled? And were is free will now?
Anyone that wants it.
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 06:11 PM Also, getting layed is so easy dude, save up like 2 paychecks and go to your local titty bar with like 100 bucks, you must be real real shy so drink like 15 shots but dont drink so much where u cant still get it up. Flaunt your money at one of the hookers there and tell her to hook you up for 100. Simple
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 06:13 PM Or go to church, become a Christian, and meet a nice girl
Also, getting layed is so easy dude, save up like 2 paychecks and go to your local titty bar with like 100 bucks, you must be real real shy so drink like 15 shots but dont drink so much where u cant still get it up. Flaunt your money at one of the hookers there and tell her to hook you up for 100. Simple
we are not looking for sex. We are looking for love.
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 06:24 PM Love can be found anywhere if your looking for it, go on dates. Become a strong man spiritually and physically and woment will naturally be attracted to you. In my honest opinion if your looking for Love, go to Church. Church girls usually have morals and standards, you will get to know them and they you if you attend regularly and church people are naturally very talkative and nice so you can talk to them without them thinking your hitting on them, then slowly but surely turn the charm on. Dont be suttle though or they will get scared and shut down, use your charm
Love can be found anywhere if your looking for it, go on dates. Become a strong man spiritually and physically and woment will naturally be attracted to you. In my honest opinion if your looking for Love, go to Church. Church girls usually have morals and standards, you will get to know them and they you if you attend regularly and church people are naturally very talkative and nice so you can talk to them without them thinking your hitting on them, then slowly but surely turn the charm on. Dont be suttle though or they will get scared and shut down, use your charm
spirituality and strength is gained only after years, more than twenty years. Meanwhile all these years are spent alone with broken soul.
supremebeingindeed 04-10-07, 06:32 PM Well, your just pitiful then. Point Blank. There is no hope for someone who wishes to wallow in their own pity.
Well, your just pitiful then. Point Blank. There is no hope for someone who wishes to wallow in their own pity.
pity gives me power.
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 06:41 PM New T-shirt saying:
Pity Power
Works for Me
New T-shirt saying:
Pity Power
Works for Me
I rather have it blank.
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 06:44 PM I see your point, don't want to give away your secret.
I see your point, don't want to give away your secret.
so, how far do you want to continue this conversation?
New T-shirt saying:
Pity Power
Works for Me
New T-Shirt saying:
DEATH TO ALL EXTREMISTS!
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 06:47 PM How extreme!
New T-Shirt saying:
DEATH TO ALL EXTREMISTS!
illogical notation. As the person who is wearing this t-shirt is an extemist him/herself.
IceAgeCivilizations 04-10-07, 06:49 PM That's how extemists think, right swiv?
nietzschefan 04-10-07, 07:06 PM illogical notation. As the person who is wearing this t-shirt is an extemist him/herself.
Holy shit draqon, I try real hard to not be personal here but you de-rail a lot of threads with this "i'm going to find a nice woman and settle down with her" or spewing your young idealistic crap, whether or not it's on-topic.
I will echo the sentiments of others here and echo the statement "GO GET LAID". For the love of everything holy or evil, fire a gouty chugnugget into the most fancy-assed bemomeda you can get your hands on. Trust us, it's NOT that special for you, it's an orgasm. Do not wait for some perfect little twisted bible-thumper and ruin her first time with your ineptitude.
If you need to open your eyes a bit before taking the "plunge"(that's all it is), read the Genology of Morals by my good pal Neitzsche. Don't do STUPID just 'cause it's a CUSTOM.
TruthSeeker 04-11-07, 01:03 PM What would be, in your opinion, the best way to direct you life based on the problems that plauge mankind currently? In my opinion, if I where the perfect person (or even close) I would dedicate my life to eliminating starvation because in my opinion if you have more then the basics to survive and others dont, your cheating others for your own benefit. Ive devised a plan and I want you all to comment on it. In order to to completely eliminate starvation, you need a constant, never ending supply of food. You need a buisness where people are going to be buying your product. I was thinking of starting supermarket advertising that all of the proceeds (besides the cost to sustain the buisness) will be used to purchase food and equipment for the poor. I would advertise that all you have to do is buy your groceries from my food chain and you will be helping the starving, disease infested children, I think people would choose my supermarket over otheres that are just using the profit for their own selfish personal gain. It would be like donating to red cross, but your not really losing any of your personal money because you have to buy groceries anyways. Would this be an unfair marketing ploy? Would it be legal or would i be prosecuted for a Monopoly of the Industry?
Go for it!! :)
I have my own ideas on the making..... :cool:
But as others said, food supply is not really the problem. The problem is in the distribution...
SoLiDUS 04-11-07, 02:20 PM What would be, in your opinion, the best way to direct you life based on the problems that plauge mankind currently? In my opinion, if I where the perfect person (or even close) I would dedicate my life to eliminating starvation because in my opinion if you have more then the basics to survive and others dont, your cheating others for your own benefit. Ive devised a plan and I want you all to comment on it. In order to to completely eliminate starvation, you need a constant, never ending supply of food. You need a buisness where people are going to be buying your product. I was thinking of starting supermarket advertising that all of the proceeds (besides the cost to sustain the buisness) will be used to purchase food and equipment for the poor. I would advertise that all you have to do is buy your groceries from my food chain and you will be helping the starving, disease infested children, I think people would choose my supermarket over otheres that are just using the profit for their own selfish personal gain. It would be like donating to red cross, but your not really losing any of your personal money because you have to buy groceries anyways. Would this be an unfair marketing ploy? Would it be legal or would i be prosecuted for a Monopoly of the Industry?
Are you advocating a form of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"? You might want to have a quick read on Rand or others to have an idea of how successful that's going to be...
You may choose to donate your earnings to others if you deem it appropriate, but don't make any attempt to force others into doing the same: I will not be told that my desire to enjoy my money is wrong because a few are in shitty positions or others are either too lazy or incompetent to acquire it similarly.
Again, it's your freedom of choice to distribute your wealth as you see fit, as it is mine to do what I please with the fruits of my labor.
That's how extemists think, right swiv?
Yes, the irony was obviously lost on Dragon.
But that is to be expected. Dragon is not as smart as the rest of us.
Yes, the irony was obviously lost on Dragon.
But that is to be expected. Dragon is not as smart as the rest of us.
not agreeing to belief does not make one more or less intelligent. Emotions are nothing.
not agreeing to belief does not make one more or less intelligent. Emotions are nothing.
This is nonsensical gibberish. You are dumb*.
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*Can this really be considered an ad hominem when the subject being debated is intelligence in general, and dragon's in particular? Especially with the evidence presented by the defendant, against himself, I think not.
This is nonsensical gibberish. You are dumb
If that is how you wish to see me, than let it be.
Peace.
If that is how you wish to see me, than let it be.
Peace.
No. I wish to see you intelligent. I have hope that you will grow out of this adolescent subjectivism that you are going through. My love is tough-love. I want to teach you, help you become a better person, make you less annoying so that a woman will want to have sex with you.
I honestly love you. I really do. I'm not being funny here or setting you up. I love you like a brother. But you say things that are not true. Objectively wrong. And these things are annoying. They make the world around you a worse place than it would be with silence. This means you do ill.
Many people here have had a similar reaction to you and have tried to help you. I don't see that it has done any good, but I will not stop trying. As I do my daily read of SciForums, and make what comments I think are germane, I will continue to call you out on your silliness. I will treat you with the consistency and toughness that any good parent uses with their children.
I will never speak so candidly with you again. But I will speak with you again.
Fraggle Rocker 04-11-07, 05:47 PM What would be, in your opinion, the best way to direct you life based on the problems that plauge mankind currently? The rest of your post implies that you're limiting the discussion to economic problems, probably because you assume that mankind's worst problems are economic. Okay...
To translate the statement, "Some communities are wealthy while others are poor," into economic language is to say, "Some communities have surplus wealth while others have none, or may even have a negative surplus." There are three principal reasons for a community to have no surplus.1. It was destroyed by a natural disaster. We can eliminate this since we're talking about nation-sized communities rather than some small region that was struck by a flood or an earthquake. 2. It was taken from them. This was common in the colonial era and it is, economically, the essence of slavery: to steal the fruits of another's labor. China is stealing the productive capacity of Tibet and Hong Kong, and the USSR once did the same to its satellite nations, but other contemporary examples are rare. This is not our problem either. That leaves 3. They are not producing a surplus.This was the problem with communism: centrally managed economies are so inefficient and unresponsive to market forces that they not only produce no surplus, but they have a "negative surplus" and dissipate the wealth left over from the previous regime, until they collapse predictably.
But it's also a problem in despotic countries. They are so disorganized and their governments are so punitive and restrictive, that their people can't produce enough to live on, much less a surplus.In my opinion, if I where the perfect person (or even close) I would dedicate my life to eliminating starvation because in my opinion if you have more then the basics to survive and others dont, your cheating others for your own benefit.That is a very compassionate way to see the world and you are to be commended for being a caring person. Unfortunately it is an invalid economic model. You are not "cheating" anyone by being a member of a productive society with an efficient market economy that produces a surplus, no matter how poor some other society is. If your society did not produce a surplus, there would be nothing to share with the others and we would all be impoverished. That is exactly what life was like in the Stone Age, when the absence of a surplus prevented people from even building permanent dwellings so nobody could help anybody.Ive devised a plan and I want you all to comment on it. In order to to completely eliminate starvation, you need a constant, never ending supply of food.There is no real shortage of food on earth. Double the population again and you might see a strain on agricultural resources. (Which I hope you all know by now is universally predicted not to happen. The population is expected to level off just shy of ten billion and then start falling at the end of this century.) But the capacity of our current agricultural technology is adequate to feed six billion and probably nine billion. The problem is not with the food supply. The problem is in getting the food into the mouths of the people who need it.You need a buisness where people are going to be buying your product. I was thinking of starting supermarket advertising that all of the proceeds (besides the cost to sustain the buisness) will be used to purchase food and equipment for the poor. I would advertise that all you have to do is buy your groceries from my food chain and you will be helping the starving, disease infested children, I think people would choose my supermarket over otheres that are just using the profit for their own selfish personal gain. It would be like donating to red cross, but your not really losing any of your personal money because you have to buy groceries anyways. Would this be an unfair marketing ploy? Would it be legal or would i be prosecuted for a Monopoly of the Industry?You plan to run a hugely successful grocery business even though you don't actually know very much about the industry. For example, the gross profit margin in the grocery business is about one percent. It's very difficult to do anything with such small leverage.
But we'll assume for the sake of the argument that hundreds of experts in that sector will be lining up to work for you at less-than-market wages, and they'll find a way to make a huge profit. Still, you have failed to explain how you are going to use your personal surplus--the wealth you will create by presiding over this cumbersome but nonetheless efficient distribution of perishable goods--to put food in the mouths of the starving people in Darfur and North Korea.
You can probably feed one of those people for 25 cents a day. And we'll just ignore the almost prohibitively enormous cost of shipping food from the places where it's abundant to the places where it's missing. If there are half a billion starving people, in round numbers, it's going to cost you $125 million dollars every day to feed them. Your grocery business has to generate $125 million dollars a day in surplus production--$40 billion dollars a year. Even Bill Gates's business does not operate at that scale. He would run out of wealth rather quickly. You can cut costs, pay your workers minimum wage, and maybe even convince people to pay higher prices, and you still won't generate $125 million dollars a day in surplus wealth. It's impossible.
But let's just fantasize that somehow you can actually do this because you're a better businessman than Warren Buffett. Do you know what is going to happen to all that food when your ships dock in Somalia and your trains roll into Kenya and your cargo aircraft land in Uganda? It is going to be confiscated by the governments. They will promise you that they will deliver it to their starving people, and they will let your observers ride along in the trucks to prove it. But most of that food will be stored in warehouses and sold on the black market to foreigners. That is what happens every time noble Westerners send food, medicine, and other supplies to the Third World.
The reason the people in the Third World are poor is that they have despotic governments.
So, if I had the power you postulate, I would concentrate on ending despotism. If you look carefully, you'll notice that the countries with the worst governments are the ones that keep their women downtrodden. Women and men working together are the key to both peace and prosperity. When men get to rule without the influence of women, they run amok. (I have no delusions that women would do better without the influence of men, but we have no historical examples to cite.)
The only organization we know of who is attacking the problem from this angle is the Central Asia Institute in Bozeman, Montana. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia_Institute or http://www.ikat.org/ They build schools throughout the Middle East with the condition that they must be either coeducational or girls-only. With a pathetically small budget, they have built 55 so far, most in places where girls had no access to education at all.
We send our entire charity budget to this organization. If you want everyone to eat and live peacefully, you'd have a hard time finding a better movement to support. And you don't need $125 million dollars to do it. :)
Please help these people. They are doing exactly what you want. It can't be done fast, but it can be done.
Fraggle Rocker, I am trying very hard not to develop a man-crush on you.
I wish I could give you a hug each and every morning. Thank you for posting.
EmptyForceOfChi 04-12-07, 06:54 AM what fraggle said.
peace.
lixluke 04-12-07, 10:51 AM If you feed poor people, you are doing a diservice to the community. I is important to keep them hungry and poor. If we give them anything, they will stop doing work, and we will have to do it instead. Just tell them if they want to eat to get a damn job. Yes.
Get a damn job. Some people just don't want to get a damn job. Go get a job you lazy mofo. Lazy mofos are leeches in this country unlike hard working honest citizens like myself. I love to work. I happen to be a very hard worker and a productive member of society that hates lazy mofos that don't want to get a damn job and want to leech off of the system. Those bastages! Us real ctizes do all the work while those leazy leeches sit at home and collect their welfare check using money that is supposed to go into the pockets of those who really deserve it. I hate them. Die die die.
one_raven 04-12-07, 10:52 AM If you feed poor people, you are doing a diservice to the community. I is important to keep them hungry and poor. If we give them anything, they will stop doing work, and we will have to do it instead. Just tell them if they want to eat to get a damn job. Yes.
Get a damn job. Some people just don't want to get a damn job. Go get a job you lazy mofo. Lazy mofos are leeches in this country unlike hard working honest citizens like myself. I love to work. I happen to be a very hard worker and a productive member of society that hates lazy mofos that don't want to get a damn job and want to leech off of the system. Those bastages! Us real ctizes do all the work while those leazy leeches sit at home and collect their welfare check using money that is supposed to go into the pockets of those who really deserve it. I hate them. Die die die.
idiot
Fraggle Rocker 04-12-07, 02:12 PM I assumed that Supremo was talking about the world as a whole, not prosperous countries like the United States or even Estonia. You can say what you want about the jobless in America, but the vast majority of the hungry people on earth live in places like Somalia and North Korea. In the former there are no jobs to be had, and in the latter there is no food to be had. In both cases the cause of the condition is a despotic government that has destroyed the economy so there is a negative surplus: people can't produce enough to fulfill the basic necessities of life.
So if you want to blame poverty and famine on the victims, you're going to have to blame them for having despotic governments.
I have raised this topic on a couple of other threads but it seems that no one wants to take it seriously.
Why did the citizens of Russia revolt against the royalty, but then turn around and tolerate the despotism of the Stalinists? Why did the citizens of China revolt against the royalty and then again against the Nationalists who overthrow them, but they meekly tolerate the despotism of the communists that had them literally starving for a couple of decades? Why do so many people in Africa tolerate despots so bad that they are literally starving? North Korea too, it has crossed the line from poverty into literal starvation.
What causes people to revolt against some intolerable conditions and the leaders who perpetrate them, but not against others?
there is too much food that goes to waste. america alone produces enough food to feed the whole planet five times over. think about how many grocery stores are within just a five mile radius of your residence including restaurants and then consider as much as seventy percent of the food goes to waste every week. I used to work for a summer at a buffet restaurant and they threw out everything from lunch to dinner that was left over. This seven days a week multiply that by all the restaurants in america and most of the world. It's a shame when you realize, just the right to eat comes down to being a part of the control of the economic totem pole. So children starve because of this. People would rather throw out food that they will not make a profit from than give it away.
its politics and human ignorance that hinders solutions.
Even canned food which lasts forever and grain would easily take care of starvation.
cosmictraveler 04-13-07, 10:05 AM The problem isn't starvation because millions of pounds of supplies go to many underpriviliuged nations to help feed them. The real problem is the people in charge of distrbuting the supplies, distribute that food only to those who will support them. Gangs and thugs take advantage of the free supplies to starve those that won't go along with what they want to do.
Fraggle Rocker 04-13-07, 06:05 PM People would rather throw out food that they will not make a profit from than give it away. its politics and human ignorance that hinders solutions. Even canned food which lasts forever and grain would easily take care of starvation.You kids are to be applauded for your big hearts, but you really don't understand the totality of the problem.
WE CANNOT GET THAT FOOD INTO THE MOUTHS OF THE STARVING PEOPLE.
We can feed our own poor people in America because we can set up food banks and they line up and there are cops and managers and social workers everywhere to make sure that it's really the poor people who get it. As a result nobody dies of starvation in America except the certifiably looney who simply refuse to follow the simplest and most compassionate procedures and instead hide from the authorities.
But we can't do that on a global scale. I organized a food drive for the Ethiopian famine about 15 years ago and because of that I followed reports of what was going on in the country. Most of the food disappeared. It was hijacked by government agents, tribal leaders, or mob bosses who sold it for a profit and used the money to buy Swiss villas, weapons, or prostitutes. The world is not a disciplined, organized society like England or America or Japan. People who want to break the rules usually get away with it. Especially if they're in the government.
You will not be able to feed 95% of the starving people in the world until you find a way to bring them a government who cares about them.
As I said earlier, the way to do that is to educate their women, because a society with women's rights doesn't put up with the crap that an old boys' club does. Contribute to the Central Asia Institute and help end starvation. It will take a generation or two but it can't be done any faster.
I'm sorry.
EmptyForceOfChi 04-13-07, 07:14 PM If you feed poor people, you are doing a diservice to the community. I is important to keep them hungry and poor. If we give them anything, they will stop doing work, and we will have to do it instead. Just tell them if they want to eat to get a damn job. Yes.
Get a damn job. Some people just don't want to get a damn job. Go get a job you lazy mofo. Lazy mofos are leeches in this country unlike hard working honest citizens like myself. I love to work. I happen to be a very hard worker and a productive member of society that hates lazy mofos that don't want to get a damn job and want to leech off of the system. Those bastages! Us real ctizes do all the work while those leazy leeches sit at home and collect their welfare check using money that is supposed to go into the pockets of those who really deserve it. I hate them. Die die die.
i almost had a fight in camden town the other week over this kinda crap, this homeless guy said to me,
got any spare change, so i said yeah i have but im not giving you any, he said why not im hungry i need some food so i said back to him well go get a job and work for your money like i have to, then he called me an asshole, so i said fuck you to man, then he got up and approached me and i said come within 2 feet of me and i will punch you in the face, then my wife told me to walk away and i did.
but seriously people need to stop giving beggars money, it encourages them to be lazy assholes and expect everything for free.
not on my watch mother fuckers.
peace.
i almost had a fight in camden town the other week over this kinda crap, this homeless guy said to me,
got any spare change, so i said yeah i have but im not giving you any, he said why not im hungry i need some food so i said back to him well go get a job and work for your money like i have to, then he called me an asshole, so i said fuck you to man, then he got up and approached me and i said come within 2 feet of me and i will punch you in the face, then my wife told me to walk away and i did.
but seriously people need to stop giving beggars money, it encourages them to be lazy assholes and expect everything for free.
not on my watch mother fuckers.
peace.
Yes, that applies in an economy such as this but not in countries where people have no food at all.
EmptyForceOfChi 04-13-07, 07:21 PM if the country has no food then the eco system of that country cannot support its population accordingly.
peace.
lixluke 04-15-07, 09:15 AM there is too much food that goes to waste. america alone produces enough food to feed the whole planet five times over. think about how many grocery stores are within just a five mile radius of your residence including restaurants and then consider as much as seventy percent of the food goes to waste every week. I used to work for a summer at a buffet restaurant and they threw out everything from lunch to dinner that was left over. This seven days a week multiply that by all the restaurants in america and most of the world. It's a shame when you realize, just the right to eat comes down to being a part of the control of the economic totem pole. So children starve because of this. People would rather throw out food that they will not make a profit from than give it away.
its politics and human ignorance that hinders solutions.
Even canned food which lasts forever and grain would easily take care of starvation.
Yes we have the food, and the planet has the capability of feeding everybody, but why would we want to? The starvation of the planet is not our problem as long as America is functioning profitably. Especially the plutocracy. The only important thing is that the plutocracy be taken care of to the best extent possible. In that case, anything they want no matter what it is, they will be able to get it. That is the most important concern. If feeding the hungry interferes with this concern, then it is not practical to feed the hungry now is it?
Furthermore, you assume as if they are poor by accident. The only reason they are poor is because we need them to be poor. They are not poor by accident. We keep them poor. Why start a thread on feeding the hungry when the only reason they are hungry is because we ensure they remaim hungry. Keep them hungry and desperate, and you keep them willing to give us presious land, resources, and labor for some bread. It's called sanctions. We make sure they are not allowed to produce their own products, food, etc. It would interfere with their dependence on the world banks and the imf for everything.
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