Hi everyone:

It is so disgusting and sickning to see the American criminals threatning my country while keeping blind eye on the terrorist state of Israel.

The American criminals accuse my country of having WMD, well, what about Israel ?? Israel has all sorts of WMD, did invade our land and the lands of other 3 arab countries and illegaly occupies the arab land and is in matetrial breach of more than 80 UN resolutions...so why this hypocrisy ? why you dont threaten Israel?

No problem, this is our message to the American criminals and to the Zionist jews who run the white house and the Pentagon:

If you dare to think to attack us, we will fight, we will fight to the end, we are not iraq, we dont have oppressive regime, we have great educated open-minded president, your threats made us all march under his leadership, we will crash you, we will cut your heads and hang them over the walls of our ancient cities...

If you dare and attack Syria, Israel( your illegal rough terrorist state) will be certainly destroyed.

This is not a threat....this is a promise.

http://www.ramijarjour.8m.com/sflag.gif

Syria is no more of a threat to Israel, than Iraq was to the USA.

As a matter of fact Isreal defeated Syria and every other Arab state, and took them on - ALL TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.......................TWICE

So rant on with your "mother of all battles speech"

We just built Israel the T.H.E.L system.
Do you know what that is...?
You better look it up......a 4 million watt laser system that can shoot down ICBM's...... with ease, all day long.
Syria's little theater balistic missiles are nothing.....
And they have the Jericho, don't forget all those nukes.

Actually there are 5 or 6 countries in the Arab community that still have in place the Baath socialist party, which is a direct desendant of the Nazi party in Germany........

They may all have to be taken out before this is over, while we have our troups there.
It would be the most efficent use of our forces.

Because this kind of thinking has to go.....
It is so disgusting and sickning to see the American criminals threatning my country while keeping blind eye on the terrorist state of Israel.

No problem, this is our message to the American criminals and to the Zionist jews who run the white house and the Pentagon:

Can you see how it is just like the Nazi's....?

As-salâmu calaykum.

It is so disgusting and sickning to see the American criminals threatning my country Reprioritize. It is sickening to see YOUR government and people help a monster. Tell me, do you support Saddam Hussein and his regime? Did you dance in the streets when the World Trade Center collapsed? I'm sure your fellow Syrians did. That is sickening.

The American criminals accuse my country of having WMD, well, what about Israel ?? I'm sure Israel has WMD too.

did invade our land and the lands of other 3 arab countries If I recall you started it. You tried to attack them. And failed. Had to flee so fast it was laughable. They almost took Damascus but they pitied your attempts and decided to be nice guys.

and illegaly occupies the arab land To prevent your people from blowing themselves up among their women and children, AND, because you fucked with them. Stop fucking with Israel.

is in matetrial breach of more than 80 UN resolutions And Iraq isn't. Whoot!

so why this hypocrisy Have a cookie.

why you dont threaten Israel? Simple dummy, they are our ALLY. They are a FRIEND. They LIKE us. We like THEM. I love them. I lived there a bit. My dad worked for their military. I speak fluent Hebrew (and Arabic). I even have an Israeli flag on my wall in my room.

this is our message to the American criminals and to the Zionist jews who run the white house and the PentagonMuch like Jews tend to vote Democrat and the Democrats are running the White House and Congress right?

If you dare to think to attack us Stop fucking with Israel and stop helping Saddam. Otherwise, I'm sure we will attack you.

we will fight, we will fight to the end Which should be two weeks tops.

we are not iraq Brilliant statement. Truely brilliant.

we dont have oppressive regime Yep, women have full rights as citizens and can hold public office and vote, drive a car, and can do what they want, even switch to Judaism. Complete freedom of religion exists, proven by the fact of the abundance of synagogues in the country.

we will crash you Nice.

we will cut your heads and hang them over the walls of our ancient cities... Very creative. You have a strange sense of decor though. Might I suggest some gardens instead?

Israel( your illegal rough terrorist state) will be certainly destroyed. Be serious. Israel can kick your ass, and every single country around them, back into the stone age, in 2 weeks flat. You'd be waving the white flag before they even order an attack. And your president can become familiar with the Mossad.

Don't FUCK with the Israelis!

This is not a threat Of course not, you just like making conversation about hanging our heads on your cities eh?

Originally posted by TheVisitor
Syria is no more of a threat to Israel, than Iraq was to the USA.
As a matter of fact Isreal defeated Syria and every other Arab state, and took them on - ALL TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.......................TWICE

:p it is so funny how are the American criminals misinformed.

The terrorist state of Israel DID NOT win all wars against the arabs, this sheer fallacy that the zionist jews promote:

in 1973, and specially in the first days of the war, the Syrian Army was about 50 KM from TEL AVIV, without American military help and the intervention of the then Soviet Union to stop the Syrian and the Eygptian advance( in the south), Israel would have been something from the past.

In 1982: when Israel invaded Lebanon, the Syrian army crashed the Israeli army( although we suffered heavey losses) but we forced them OUT of Beirut and we cancelled the Lebanese-Israeli agreement of 7 May 1983 signed between the Lebanese christian traitors and the Israelis.

In 2000: SYRIAN-Backed freedom fighters of Hizbollah CRSHED and destroyed the Israeli army positions in occupied southern lebanon and KICKED the Israelis out and declared southern Lebanon a liberated lebanese land.

it is amazing how the zionists in the U.S. promotes all sorts of lies to decieve the public.

Syria is not Iraq, we did not suffer from sanctions, our army is very modern and well-equiped, remember 80% of the Iraqi regular army DID NOT fight according to the British defence minister, in our case, not only our army will fight, ALL OF US will fight, we dont have oppressive regime, we dont have divisions within our socieities, even the Syrian Christians are now signing to join the JIHAD in case your criminals dares and come to our land.

we do have WMD and we will certainly use them against you and against the terrorist state of Israel( the one behind all these troubles in the Middle east).

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/paris892.gif
Fighter Aicraft, Mig-29/1, Syria has more than 300 of these very powerful fighter jets.

Nice, very nice. However, Israel can do better:

686 enemy airplanes have been shot down in dogfights since Israel's birth. Only 23 Israeli planes have been shot down by enemy planes since 1948 - a statistic which puts the dogfight victory ratio between Israel and its Arab neighbors at a whopping 30:1.

18 enemy planes were shot down in dogfights in the 1948 War of Independence. A single Israeli plane may have been shot down in a dogfight over the Galilee, but the exact circumstances of its demise were never established in certainty.

Seven enemy planes were shot down in the course of the Sinai Campaign, without a single Israeli plane being shot down.

In the Six Day War, 60 enemy planes and 12 IAF planes were shot down.

The War of Attrition saw 111 enemy planes and four Israeli planes shot down.

277 enemy planes were shot down in the Yom Kippur War - accounting for over a third of the IAF's total kills since 1948. Of the planes lost by the IAF in the war, only five were shot down in dogfights.

88 enemy planes were shot down in the Peace for Galilee Campaign. Not one Israeli plane was shot down in a dogfight.

125 enemy planes were shot down in dogfights in the years between the wars - most of them in the 70's.

The IAF lost only two planes in dogfights between the wars, in 1959 and in 1964.

Syria has more than 300 of these very powerful fighter jets. Ooooh, pack up boys, we must leave for home. I guess the 6 carriers with 85 aircrafts each is no match for Syria's grand air force! And that is just the Navy! What about the Air Force?!

we do have WMD and we will certainly use them against you and against the terrorist state of Israel( the one behind all these troubles in the Middle east). I see. You do know that Israel will most likely nuke the crap out of you too?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerrek
[B]As-salâmu calaykum.

Reprioritize. It is sickening to see YOUR government and people help a monster. Tell me, do you support Saddam Hussein and his regime? Did you dance in the streets when the World Trade Center collapsed? I'm sure your fellow Syrians did. That is sickening.
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You see how misinformed you guys are, for the past 20 years, our government and the Iraqi regime were hostile toward each other, our borders were closed.

when the whole world including the American terrorist government were supporting saddam fighting Iran, ONLY Syria was against Saddam, we were helping Iran( of course,you zionists dont tell the American public about this very fact).

certainly we dont help Saddam, and certianly we DID NOT dance in the streets when wtc fell, this is disgusting thing to do, we are humans as you are...we feel the pain of the others.

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If I recall you started it. You tried to attack them. And failed. Had to flee so fast it was laughable. They almost took Damascus but they pitied your attempts and decided to be nice guys.

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They started 1967 aggression war, we started 1973 Liberation war, THEY DID NOT reach damascuss as they falsfuly promote, in fact, we liberated the city of KONAITERA in Al-Golan heights, so how come they were near to damascus ??

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To prevent your people from blowing themselves up among their women and children, AND, because you fucked with them. Stop fucking with Israel.

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it is more horrible to send F16s to bomb women and childern in their homes...we will not fuck with Israel, if attacked, we will just destroy Israel....and we have the means to do so..

we already armed the freedom fighters of Hizbollah with more than 10,000 long-range missiles that can reach any part of Israel.

those great freedom fighters are just waiting the Syrian signal to start destroying your terrorist state.
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Stop fucking with Israel and stop helping Saddam. Otherwise, I'm sure we will attack you.
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and we are waiting...your terrorist state will be destroyed, believe me.

:p

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerrek
[B]Nice, very nice. However, Israel can do better:

686 enemy airplanes have been shot down in dogfights since Israel's birth. Only 23 Israeli planes have been shot down by enemy planes since 1948 - a statistic which puts the dogfight victory ratio between Israel and its Arab neighbors at a whopping 30:1.

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Oh yeah, if you depend on Israeli statistics , then oh yeah...right.

:D

You see how misinformed you guys are, for the past 20 years, our government and the Iraqi regime were hostile toward each other, our borders were closed. So I guess the supplies sneaking in from Syria were beamed down from a spaceship.

and we have the means to do so.. And they have the means to destroy you.

with more than 10,000 long-range missiles Thats a lot of killing you plan on doing. Planning on starting a war?

your terrorist state will be destroyed, believe me People have been telling us that for decades, and people much smarter than you've tried and failed.

Unlikely.

Oh yeah, if you depend on Israeli statistics , then oh yeah...right. And Syrian mathematics is much more accurate right?

Lets get serious, if america decides to attack, you won't have a defense at all. Perhaps the "we will destroy you" angle wasn't the right one, maybe "please don't invade my country, I don't want to die" would have been more appropriate and met with a warmer reception.

So... you won a border skirmish, in a foriegn land Israel only entered after being provoked, and you call that a victory.....


Nice picture of the plane...(I wish I knew how to do that !)

But all joking aside, you don't even have pictures of some of the stuff we have.......It'll swoop down from orbit at Mach 25, and drop a load you'll never see coming........While the pilot's turned around in his seat talking to his crew about his golf game....

You aren't even in the same century.......sorry

Originally posted by Jerrek
And Syrian mathematics is much more accurate right?

I did not proivde you with any statistics, but this photo is nice one:

Syrian SU 24 bombing and destroying Israeli positions during the liberation war of 1973:

http://www.aeronautics.ru/sukhoi/su-24_fencer/su-24-010-t6-3i-kh-23.jpg

Originally posted by TheVisitor

But all joking aside, you don't even have pictures of some of the stuff we have.......It'll swoop down from orbit at Mach 25, and drop a load you'll never see coming........While the pilot's turned around in his seat talking to his crew about his golf game....

You aren't even in the same century.......sorry

No one dispute the American military might, but guys:

IT IS NOT WHAT WEAPONS YOU HAVE, IT IS WHAT JUST CAUSE YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR.

You want to invade my land( unjust cause), and we will be defending our land( just cause) so we will kick you out.

if small band of Iraqi thugs hold you for one week in Nasiriyah and um Al-qaser, What about determined Syrians who know they are fighting for their homeland ??????

when we will fight, we know, we are not fighting to defend a regime, but we are fighting to defend our land....

Al-jazeera is waiting to show the world,the pictures of American soldiers' heads cut off and hanged on the ancient walls of our citieis....so please, HURRY UP !

:p

And they said the same thing before we "invaded" Iraq.

OK I'm tired. Israel has these:

http://www.aeronautics.ru/lockheed/f-16_falcon/f-16-008.jpg

And also

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/galaxy/9994/f-15-5.jpg

And their buddies have these:

http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/talk/b-2.jpg

and

http://www.webcindario.com/maquetismo/F-117.jpg

Wee.


No one dispute the American military might, but guys Changing your tune already?

You want to invade my land( unjust cause), and we will be defending our land( just cause) so we will kick you out. Like Iraq did?

Al-jazeera is waiting to show the world,the pictures of American soldiers' heads cut off and hanged on the ancient walls of our citieis....so please, HURRY UP Sure doesn't sound like human to me.

This looks like two little boys fighting over which hockeyteam is the best.

Please discuss real politics or stop posting.

Originally posted by Pulse
This looks like two little boys fighting over which hockeyteam is the best.

Please discuss real politics or stop posting. Much like you did right now?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerrek
[B]And their buddies have these:

And we do have these to brought your jets down:

http://arms.host.sk/missiles/s300pmu2.jpg
S-300PMU2 Anti-Aircraft missiles capable of destroying high-flying F16s and F15s fighter jets. Syria has more than 40 batteries of these anti-aricraft missiles.
( the American and the Israeli planes will fall down like small birds).

:p

IT IS NOT WHAT WEAPONS YOU HAVE, IT IS WHAT JUST CAUSE YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR.

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Arabs destoyed New York city, in an unprovoked attack....
Does Pearl Harbor mean anything to you....?

We have plenty of reasons and your anti- American, anti- Israeli retoric just reminds us of why were there.

Every time I see a picture of the Twin Towers, the way they used to be...............

I feel sorry for your people....they have awoke the sleeping giant, again.

Originally posted by Pulse
This looks like two little boys fighting over which hockeyteam is the best.

Please discuss real politics or stop posting.

I am very pleased to discuss real politics with you, I want to hear your views and le tyou hear mine.

Originally posted by TheVisitor
IT IS NOT WHAT WEAPONS YOU HAVE, IT IS WHAT JUST CAUSE YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR.
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Arabs destoyed New York city, in an unprovoked attack....
Does Pearl Harbor mean anything to you....?

We have plenty of reasons and your anti- American, anti- Israeli retoric just reminds us of why were there.

Every time I see a picture of the Twin Towers, the way they used to be...............

I feel sorry for your people....they have awoke the sleeping giant, again.

your post reminded me of this famous saying: GENERALIZATION IS THE TOOL OF THE FOOLS.

Now, you said: ARABS destroyed New York !!! first, 19 out of 300 million does not mean ALL arabs, second: 2 buildings out of thousands in NY does not mean all NY is destroyed.

second, not a single Syrian was involved in 9/11 nor the Syrian government, to attack us using your crap is to create more 9/11.

believe me, your criminal actions will never reduce terrorism, it will make it go on forever, and you, the mislead American sheeps, will never sleep safe again...NEVER.

Jerrek, I dont know if this is your time of the month or what your problem is at the moment, but it wont drag me down to your level. This conflict is a serious matter, and should never be discussed like this. If you have a personal problem, take it over private messages. Otherwise, I'd be happy to read any serious ideas and opinions you might have.

Now, you said: ARABS destroyed New York !!! first, 19 out of 300 million does not mean ALL arabs, second: 2 buildings out of thousands in NY does not mean all NY is destroyed.

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Your suicide bomber hit and run tactics don't fly with us cowboys here in the US of A.

You will be held accountable.......The party in control of your country is a represive regime.
The Baath Party is a Nazi spin off of anti-Jew hatred.

You are lucky this regime has deceived you and we are mercifull.
Because of this, we will probably consider your people "brainwashed" just as you are, and give some of our own lives in the process, to remove this regime without killing your civilians......
We could just nuke you, but being a nation with character, we will sacrifice our own sons and daughters to save yours......
As we did in Iraq.
Some of you will be grateful, and others will spit at our outstetched hand, and spend your last dying breath trying to stab us in the back.

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"Arab" means ambusher

2 little boys having a dicksizing contest....

Proud Syrian, I would never underestimate the potential of the syrian army, but your claims sound as credible as the comments of the former iraqi minister of information and above all I am not exactly waiting for another war. I did not support the war against iraq, but now that saddam is gone , a mayor obstacle is out of the way for getting serious peace in the middle east. Let's hope that the governments of Jerrek and Proud Syrian grasp this unique oppertunity instead of making another war....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheVisitor
[B]Now, you said: ARABS destroyed New York !!! first, 19 out of 300 million does not mean ALL arabs, second: 2 buildings out of thousands in NY does not mean all NY is destroyed.

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GENERALIZATION IS THE TOOL OF THE FOOL.

Sorry, I have no time to waste with fat, burger-eating, flag-waving American ignorants.

Originally posted by Vortexx
2 little boys having a dicksizing contest....

Proud Syrian, I would never underestimate the potential of the syrian army,

We are not looking for war, it is the American criminals and their jewish masters in the white house are the ones who are talking about attacking my homeland.

cant you realize all this is proxy war on behalf of Israel ?

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j041403.html

As I said before, it is not what weapons you have, it is what just cause you are fighting for.

Already, thousands of Arab suicide martyers have signed the JIHAD call and they are ready to come and fight with us here in our homeland.

Al-Jazeera will be very glad to film the American heads being cut off and hanged over the walls of our ancient cities.

:p

Originally posted by Jerrek
Nice, very nice. However, Israel can do better:

686 enemy airplanes have been shot down in dogfights since Israel's birth. Only 23 Israeli planes have been shot down by enemy planes since 1948 - a statistic which puts the dogfight victory ratio between Israel and its Arab neighbors at a whopping 30:1.

18 enemy planes were shot down in dogfights in the 1948 War of Independence. A single Israeli plane may have been shot down in a dogfight over the Galilee, but the exact circumstances of its demise were never established in certainty.

Seven enemy planes were shot down in the course of the Sinai Campaign, without a single Israeli plane being shot down.

In the Six Day War, 60 enemy planes and 12 IAF planes were shot down.

The War of Attrition saw 111 enemy planes and four Israeli planes shot down.

277 enemy planes were shot down in the Yom Kippur War - accounting for over a third of the IAF's total kills since 1948. Of the planes lost by the IAF in the war, only five were shot down in dogfights.

88 enemy planes were shot down in the Peace for Galilee Campaign. Not one Israeli plane was shot down in a dogfight.

125 enemy planes were shot down in dogfights in the years between the wars - most of them in the 70's.

The IAF lost only two planes in dogfights between the wars, in 1959 and in 1964.

Ooooh, pack up boys, we must leave for home. I guess the 6 carriers with 85 aircrafts each is no match for Syria's grand air force! And that is just the Navy! What about the Air Force?!

I see. You do know that Israel will most likely nuke the crap out of you too?

This is all quite funny when one knows a little history. In WW2, in the Pacific, the Japanese lost six aircraft for every one that they shot down, whilst for every white they killed, they lost 20 of their own.

Israels average IQ is 90.

And the vast majority of aircraft shot during the wars you are referring to were shot down by missile systems designed by dopey white scientists. :D

Jewish supremacy is based upon IQ scores jews were primarily responsible for testing, if you care to look into it. :)

Originally posted by TheVisitor
Now, you said: ARABS destroyed New York !!! first, 19 out of 300 million does not mean ALL arabs, second: 2 buildings out of thousands in NY does not mean all NY is destroyed.

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Your suicide bomber hit and run tactics don't fly with us cowboys here in the US of A.

You will be held accountable.......The party in control of your country is a represive regime.
The Baath Party is a Nazi spin off of anti-Jew hatred.

Muslims save Baghdad's Jewish community centre from looters:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/13/1050172477659.html

Muslims save Baghdad's Jewish community centre from looters:

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That's a step in the right direction, but you don't try to deny the anti-Jewish sentiment still out there do you...?

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
Lets get serious, if america decides to attack, you're fucked, you won't have a defense at all. Perhaps the "we will destroy you" angle wasn't the right one, maybe "please don't invade my country, I don't want to die" would have been more appropriate and met with a warmer reception.


But after the war americans will have some arab tourists constantly sneezing weaponized SARS.
Suicide biological weapons: the way of the future!

Originally posted by TheVisitor
Muslims save Baghdad's Jewish community centre from looters:
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That's a step in the right direction, but you don't try to deny the anti-Jewish sentiment still out there do you...?

It is NOT anti-jewish, it is anti-injustice, the jews and specially the zionist ones STOLE our land, KILLED our people and terrorized and keep terrorizing our lives.

if we are anti-Israel, it does not mean, we are anti-jews.

even some jews are anti-israel, and some of them go even as far as calling for the total destruction of Israel:

www.jewsnotzionists.org

Im not even getting into who is bigger/better dicksize contest here with showing arms etc , it is all very irellevant . As an Arab withing the European Arab community , i do have knowledge on how the average Arab feels about shit , in here and back home .

If Syria will be attacked , there will be millions of muslims calling Jihad against Israel , and millions who will go to israel and fight . This situation is not comparable with many years ago , people changed , attitudes changed , there are suicide bombings in Israel weekly , its not like how it used to be .

And thats just for the dumb Arabs/muslims who are still with their minds in traditional warfare , make no mistake with what will happen with the organized Arabs/muslims in the west (EU & USA) , the war will be exported . The war is much more psychological than otherwise , in the West or USA they do not know the meaning of terror , nor do they understand the concept of dying for a cause . Anarchy will break out , in EU at least (perhaps USA has stuff a bit more under controll , in here they surely dont) .

I myself will declare Jihad , if I already have not done so yet , and trust me I wont be going to Jerusalem nor Damasque .

<i>If Syria Is Attacked: Israel Will Be Destroyed.</i>

Well, that would bring to a close one issue of contention, but the Arabs wouldn't know what to do with themselves afterwards.

Originally posted by Bowser
<i>If Syria Is Attacked: Israel Will Be Destroyed.</i>

Well, that would bring to a close one issue of contention, but the Arabs wouldn't know what to do with themselves afterwards.

If this terrorist state was destroyed, the west will find new trustworthy friends and MARKETS.

Allahs_Mathematics:
A decleration of jihad on Israel from an attack on Syria would be justified, how? Here's the logic as I see it:

- Much of the middle east (particularily Syria, and Israel's neighboorhing nations) is strongly anti-Israel
- Some of the middle east is in favour of completely destroying Israel
- Not launching war on Israel is done by these nations for two reasons; they'd likely be destroyed, and if they weren't, they'd loose all Western aid (and, keep in mind, I'm talking about the reasons the govrenments don't attack - I'm sure the people who feel strongly really don't care about Western aid)
- If war is launched on Syria (or, perhaps one of the other nations around Israel), neither of these reasons matter

Am I anywhere on track here? Because as far as I remember, Israel hasn't attacked Syria in some time. In fact, I think Saddam was slaughtering Kurds more recently than Israel and Syria were directly at war. And certainly more recently than Israel "invaded" Syrian land. My second question, is how to then justify a war against Israel and not one against Iraq? Saddam has opressed and slaughtered Kurds more than you can say Israel has opressed or slaughtered Palestinians (and, in fact, there are still Palestinian refugee camps in Syria as well. The PASSA map I have says there's roughly 180,000 refugees in Syria in camps). So how does anyone justify a war against Israel and say a war against Iraq is completely unjustified?


On an important note: I believe your last line indicates your 'jihad' deccleration would be against the U.S., and not Israel or Syria, etc. If I'm right, I do recognize that it is not you that justifies a war against Israel.

-- Also, I would be strongly against a war on Syria --

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Proud_Syrian

[B]This is not a threat....this is a promise.

Hi Proud Syrian,

I'm a proud American. I just wanted to let you know that you have my permission to kick US and Israel butt if they entered your country. That's your god given right....Fine Saddam is evil, but this cowboy crap of threatening the soverignty of countries that never done anything to US is beyond unfair.....US is really bringing the wrath of god on itself with it's unfair actions.

Originally posted by heflores
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Proud_Syrian

[B]This is not a threat....this is a promise.

Hi Proud Syrian,

I'm a proud American. I just wanted to let you know that you have my permission to kick US and Israel butt if they entered your country. That's your god given right....Fine Saddam is evil, but this cowboy crap of threatening the soverignty of countries that never done anything to US is beyond unfair.....US is really bringing the wrath of god on itself with it's unfair actions.

Thank you, we are not against you, we have not done anything to harm you, we dont hate you, we did not attack you..so why all these threats ??

I think, it is the zionist jews who run the white house and the pentagon who are pushing your great country to invade Syria in order to make the ME a more hospitable place for the terrorist state of Israel.

Syrian:
When did the US government say they would invade Syria? I really don't remember. I was at work last night (and then the hockey was on) so I didn't watch much news, but I've yet to hear a government official threaten invading Syria. I've heard media discussion. But nothing else. As of yet, all I've heard is warning to Syria not to aid Saddam.

Originally posted by Tyler
Allahs_Mathematics:
A decleration of jihad on Israel from an attack on Syria would be justified, how? Here's the logic as I see it:.....
-- Also, I would be strongly against a war on Syria --

As Syrian, I cant understand why America is so mad about my country ? everyone now know that these threats and these wars are only designed to suit the Israeli interests.

Israel made America a POLITICAL AND MILITARY PROSTITUTE in order to achieve its goals, one arab country after another, everyone who dares to oppose Israel will be attacked.

well, enough is enough, JIHAD will be declared all over the Muslim world and millions of Muslims will come to Syria to fight....Israel will be destroyed.....make no mistake about that.

1) Answer my initial question
2) Prove that the war against Iraq was done solely because of Israel's interest. Did you know many Israeli's feared for their life because of this war?
3) What makes you think this attempt by "millions of Moslems" would be any more successful than the last few tries?

Originally posted by Tyler
Syrian:
When did the US government say they would invade Syria? I really don't remember. I was at work last night (and then the hockey was on) so I didn't watch much news, but I've yet to hear a government official threaten invading Syria. I've heard media discussion. But nothing else. As of yet, all I've heard is warning to Syria not to aid Saddam.

The terrorist Rumsfield has asked the Pentagon to draw the plan for invasion, colin powel has threatened Syria with ' various' measures to force us to do what suits Israel.

even Bush has said, Syria needs to cooperate and that some messaure need to be taken !!!!!

Every time I hear American officals talk, I see jewish rats behind them.

Proud Syrian,

I'm hoping that nothing drastic will happen. I hope Assad will be really really smart and play Bush for a fool. Assad Junior seems to be a smart well educated guy......The key is to run a massive media campaign and rythems well with the west.

Originally posted by Tyler
1) Answer my initial question
2) Prove that the war against Iraq was done solely because of Israel's interest. Did you know many Israeli's feared for their life because of this war?
3) What makes you think this attempt by "millions of Moslems" would be any more successful than the last few tries?

question no.1 answered in different post.

Q.2: well, the first thing the Americans did when they invaded Iraq is to go to the western side to 'secure' the iraqi missiles and to protect Israel from any missiles.

Iraq constituted a grave risk on Israel since it was the only arab country that dares to attack it, the jews who run American political life were campaigning since this incident to bomb Iraq and remove this threat.

Q.3: there was no last tries, this time, the Muslim world had enough American arrogance and terrorism, the muslim world is boiling with rage and anger, already thousands had gone to fight in Iraq( although the cause was not really that just, since there is a tyrannt anti-muslim dictator there), but in our case, it will be clear blatant invasion with no provocations.

Originally posted by heflores
Proud Syrian,

I'm hoping that nothing drastic will happen. I hope Assad will be really really smart and play Bush for a fool. Assad Junior seems to be a smart well educated guy......The key is to run a massive media campaign and rythems well with the west.

I agree with you 100%, our president is not dictator, he never killed anyone, he walks in the streets like any other Syrians, many times, we find him and his British wife dinning in normal restaurants in the streets of Damascuss, he is very nice, british-educated man.

so, I think we need to play the same game the jews are playing right now in the U.S.

I suggest that our president should go live on Syrian T.V and warn America that if they attack us, Israel will be destroyed, the jews will shite in their pants, they are already so scared from us( this is why they launch these latest threats)...when Bush realizes the dangers and that his invasion might destroy America's illegal rouge state, he will cool down and kick those zionist jewish assholes from the Pentagon and the white house.

Syrian. I don't really believe a majority of Americans are right now supporting a military force against Syria. I understand your coming on here to defend of your country, but the way you came on here with your bellicose threats was bound to get a negative response from Americans who are going to be quick to react to such threats. I hope very much it doesn't come to the use of force in Syria, so I hope we find it is not true Syria has been actively aiding Iraq, hiding WMDs, and giving sanction to the Ba'ath leaders. However, with you just saying in an earlier post that your country DOES have WMDs, "we do have WMD and we will certainly use them against you and against the terrorist state of Israel( the one behind all these troubles in the Middle east)" and will use them, doesn't bode well for Syria's chances of the US turning a blind eye.

Originally posted by Coldrake
However, with you just saying in an earlier post that your country DOES have WMDs, "we do have WMD and we will certainly use them against you and against the terrorist state of Israel( the one behind all these troubles in the Middle east)" and will use them, doesn't bode well for Syria's chances of the US turning a blind eye.

Coldrake, so what is the new rule. Any country possessing WMD will be attacked by US? Does that mean Russia, China, N. Korea, all European countries, ect, ect....are on the list of attack? What is this maddness? Syria never did anything to the US...

Russia and China are both members of the Big 5, the 5 who already possessed nukes at the time of the Nuclear Prolifieration Treaty signings in the late 60s. At the time it was already suspected that Israel, Pakistan, and India either had developed, or were close to developing WMDs. Every other signee, which included nations like Syria (1969) and Iraq, were prohibited from developing, or being provided with materials to help them develop, nukes. The 1928 Geneva Protocol signees agreed not to produce or keep chemical and biological weapons. Although many nations, including the US, did not sign the original document, virtually all nations would later sign, including the US in 1976, and Syria, which signed it in 1968, and ratified it in 1969. It was considered vital by the UN Permanent Security Council to keep such weapons out of the hands of dictators, unstable nations, and what are now considered "rogue" nations.

Thanks Coldrake, good WMD education for me.

Tyler

A decleration of jihad on Israel from an attack on Syria would be justified, how? Here's the logic as I see it:

- Much of the middle east (particularily Syria, and Israel's neighboorhing nations) is strongly anti-Israel


First of all , u would need to understand the concept of Jihad and how it has been declared on Israel from the very first day that state has been settled , the state is not recognized by Arabs till this very day . There is no Israel and for sure no Ashkenazim one , there is a Jewish occupation of Palestine .

And justification is not in question here , certainly not when we speak of Syria being attacked . Justification of Israel's destruction goes far beyond a potential attack on Syria . Syria will merely enlighten the fuel of hate that has existed in the Arab world towards Israel for each of its 55 years of existence .

Now u try to answer a question of WHY ? , with only stating the direct situation linked , a cause interesting but not complete , not in a long shot .
Why do u stop right there . I would continue :
Why is much of the middle east (particularily Syria, and Israel's neighboorhing nations) strongly anti-Israel ?


- Some of the middle east is in favour of completely destroying Israel


Same thing here .....
Why is some of the middle east in favour of completely destroying Israel ?


- Not launching war on Israel is done by these nations for two reasons; they'd likely be destroyed, and if they weren't, they'd loose all Western aid (and, keep in mind, I'm talking about the reasons the govrenments don't attack - I'm sure the people who feel strongly really don't care about Western aid)


Syria is not a friend of USA . You seem to equalize the entire middle east , but there is a big difference between the oil shaikh/monarch regimes and the semi-socialist republiks .
Western aid is only for friends not for enemies , ofcourse the shaiks are USA bests friends EVER .
They dont attack because they are feared of being destroyed , and these states have a tendecy to of an extreme survival purpose , perfectly stalinistic . Nothing tat would harm themselves would be done , up untill a point where the other way is just as destructive (Invasion by USA for instance) .

They are not democratic , democrats vote HIZBOLLAH . Get my point ?


- If war is launched on Syria (or, perhaps one of the other nations around Israel), neither of these reasons matter


Neither does the attack for the motivation of the destruction of Israel .
A nice thing to know about Syria is that it is Ba'ath , u know , like Saddam . Another nice thing to know that Bashar is rather a Nerd than a zionist-hunter as his father was , but thats not relevant for the point here .


Am I anywhere on track here? Because as far as I remember, Israel hasn't attacked Syria in some time. In fact, I think Saddam was slaughtering Kurds more recently than Israel and Syria were directly at war. And certainly more recently than Israel "invaded" Syrian land.


Ur on the surface of things , but Israel is much more than all of this . It has never been for Syrian lands , accept for those regimes placed to become Syria after the Brit-French map-designs . The people of Syria are not Syrian , they are Arab or as a part of Greater Syria if u whilst (including Iraq etc) , these fake nationalities are as real as those fabricated countries in Africa .
A devil always brings division where there is unity , rememeber that . Besides that there have been 3 wars with Israel and Syria lost the Golan last time ......they aint happy about that . Arabs killing Kurds is also blown out of proportion , in the sense that it loses its relevantness . Im not defending Saddam's horrific acts against Kurdish masses and his occupation of Kurdistan , all Im saying is.......lets move on to Turkey , THERE is Ocalan , not in Iraq .


My second question, is how to then justify a war against Israel and not one against Iraq? Saddam has opressed and slaughtered Kurds more than you can say Israel has opressed or slaughtered Palestinians (and, in fact, there are still Palestinian refugee camps in Syria as well. The PASSA map I have says there's roughly 180,000 refugees in Syria in camps). So how does anyone justify a war against Israel and say a war against Iraq is completely unjustified?


First of all , Iraq doesnt exist , Iraq is only related to colonists and regimes , not to people . Same with Syria , Arabia is 1 . Now Israel is the product of colonization , there is absolutely no need for further motivation to demand it to leave . Did the Maya's have to surrender to the spaniards ? And again , for Kurdistan I would have to refer to Turkey , and Turkey comes along with a 600 year occupation of Arabia..there has been war against the Turks....Thats how Arabia is tricked into fighting the Ottomans , while the Brits sold them out with "liberation" , and created mini-regimes , and afterward it became the usa toy against socialism , creating semi-socialist regimes as Ba'ath .

Anyways , there is no such thing as an idiotic inter-Arab war between two regimes of one kind , both NOT representing anything more than a bit of anti-zionism . If Syria would be a representation , Israel had been at war with them already .


On an important note: I believe your last line indicates your 'jihad' deccleration would be against the U.S., and not Israel or Syria, etc. If I'm right, I do recognize that it is not you that justifies a war against Israel.


First of all , Jihad against Syria ? Well in the Islamic concept a jihad against Syria would be tribal religious , whitch isnt the case because of the illogic boarders of the land , to be against a state .....or it should be against the Regime of Ba'ath...that could be a Jihad....but hey , id say they could be on our side for a while since they wanna declare jihad themselves on those who are much much higher on the list .
And why US ...... shit aint got nothing to do with just US , but with the western society . If there is Jihad there is Jihad against the West , Israel , EU , USA , its all the damn same when it comes down to the essence of Jihad in this sense .

If u r willing to rank , sure then its Israel 1 , Usa 2 ,Brit 3 Aussie 4 , Eu 5 etc . But in such a massal situation there would be one strong and obvious block , that block is not the sad Ba'ath party from Syria , even Saudi Monarchs would get the opportunity to choose sides and change their policy .....

helflores

I just wanted to let you know that you have my permission to kick US and Israel butt if they entered your country


If u wish to bring it back to regime invasions upon other regimes , regarding Syria and Israel , who said that had stopped . The zionists stole the Golan , and Syria lost.....so what , that doesnt mean its over , that means its over until Syria tries to get stolen land back , and then its back on . Syria NEVER recognized the Zionist State of Israel . And even IF they would do so...nothing changes . If there would be still maya's left i would encourage them to revolt if they consider themselves to have such identity .

Syrian

I think, it is the zionist jews who run the white house and the pentagon who are pushing your great country to invade Syria in order to make the ME a more hospitable place for the terrorist state of Israel.


Salaam
Check out http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20295


Israel made America a POLITICAL AND MILITARY PROSTITUTE in order to achieve its goals, one arab country after another, everyone who dares to oppose Israel will be attacked.


Oh its much bigger than that even .

Tyler

Prove that the war against Iraq was done solely because of Israel's interest. Did you know many Israeli's feared for their life because of this war?


But that isnt so , there is oil involved maybe even more than just Israel . What the hell had Afghanistan to do with Israel ? And lets not even get into the whole Taliban thing cuz shit is a joke seriously .
I knew many israeli zionazi's are very much against this war , because they have nothing to say about shit , they are psychopathic colonists abused by 55 years of colonization terror and 700 years of ghetto-ism and anti-jewry rascism etc .
Shell Shock people man......
They fear for their life every breath they take , and they should .

I once posted about the division of interests , who is it gonna be , the jews and Syria , or the oil and Iran . It will only prove a simple calculation , not a jew love . What will make more money , the jew or the oil ? Thats all its about .


What makes you think this attempt by "millions of Moslems" would be any more successful than the last few tries?


Last time it wasnt Islamic but socialist-militant , the jews were much better at that , remember they have had stalin to deal with . But however , i would say such approach is stupid , because the state of Israel should be brought down by the Filisteen . Not because its there fight , thats not so , but because there lies not the weakness of Israel . The weakness of israel lies in dollarbills outside of Israel , who pays and imports and fabricates etc the entire war machine , no way 5 m people are responsible for such a huge power . Syria has 5 m soldiers if necesarry........thats not how it works .

If u wish my vision :
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20853


Russia and China are both members of the Big 5, the 5 who already possessed nukes at the time of the Nuclear Prolifieration Treaty signings in the late 60s. At the time it was already suspected that Israel, Pakistan, and India either had developed, or were close to developing WMDs. Every other signee, which included nations like Syria (1969) and Iraq, were prohibited from developing, or being provided with materials to help them develop, nukes. The 1928 Geneva Protocol signees agreed not to produce or keep chemical and biological weapons. Although many nations, including the US, did not sign the original document, virtually all nations would later sign, including the US in 1976, and Syria, which signed it in 1968, and ratified it in 1969. It was considered vital by the UN Permanent Security Council to keep such weapons out of the hands of dictators, unstable nations, and what are now considered "rogue" nations.


I find this ridiciouless , i consider all regimes and nations mentioned in this big five and actually absolutely all over to be "rogue" nations/states/regimes .

I suggest none of them to have such things , or everybody who cans gets them and defends himself .

No way should couple of states who of course dont consider themselves rogue , decide who is rogue or not to have WMD or not . For instance , i would want the CHECHNYANS to have WMD . Russia murders them by mass genocide , while Russia can have WMD..?? Just cuz they in power , fuck that , id suggest UBL to go in Ukraine or Kazachstan or something , get some WMD and deal with those fascist mobsters raping and plundering Chechnya .

And man how good it is to see this Israel being treated as if it was an idependant nation capable of having shit , while its only at that time it was a 12 year old colony .

I find this ridiciouless , i consider all regimes and nations mentioned in this big five and actually absolutely all over to be "rogue" nations/states/regimes .

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

I suggest none of them to have such things

I wish nobody had them as well.

, or everybody who cans gets them and defends himself .

Defending them would be the problem for countries like Iraq and Syria.

For instance , i would want the CHECHNYANS to have WMD . Russia murders them by mass genocide , while Russia can have WMD..??

The difference being is that Russia hasn't used any WMDs on the Chechnyans. The Chechnyans, if they had them, would likely use them against the Russians, who then would possibly use a nuke in response. That is the problem.

Just cuz they in power , fuck that , id suggest UBL to go in Ukraine or Kazachstan or something , get some WMD and deal with those fascist mobsters raping and plundering Chechnya

I think you should shoot off an e-mail to Usama suggesting that.

And man how good it is to see this Israel being treated as if it was an idependant nation capable of having shit , while its only at that time it was a 12 year old colony .

I don't understand the math. My math makes Israel older than 12 years. And while I'm not an Israeli apologist, the fact is that the world recognizes Israel as a sovereign state.

coldrake

Defending them would be the problem for countries like Iraq and Syria.


I dont think so . Having such weapons gets the attention of conventional international warfare , and gives revolution a chance . The thing with these things is once u have them , people start treating u with respect (as in international relations) . No way Nkorea would be touched even right now , because it simply ensures destruction of the west coast . If Iraq has nukes , no USA would attack it ....... its simply a matter of calculating what is worth more , the oil/jewish-cash or some people .


The difference being is that Russia hasn't used any WMDs on the Chechnyans. The Chechnyans, if they had them, would likely use them against the Russians, who then would possibly use a nuke in response. That is the problem.


Thats because the russians never had to use them , they used chemics though and killed their own people even just to get the Chechnyans . But sure if Chechnya would have some , it would threat Russia , they would be used aslong as Russians would occupy and genocide . Id say the Russians would think twice before holding another razzia in Grozny .
WMD could function as the next thing to keep the giant in his place , just like in the cold war but with a small group against a state . If Hamas would have WMD , it would be done for with Israeli occupations , and there would be negotiated since both know this is it . Perhaps it gets worse , perhaps not......either way its more fair than it was before .


I think you should shoot off an e-mail to Usama suggesting that.


UsamaBinLaden@Yahoodi.com ?


I don't understand the math. My math makes Israel older than 12 years. And while I'm not an Israeli apologist, the fact is that the world recognizes Israel as a sovereign state.


I was speaking of the situation in the '60's u spoke of , since israel is from 48 thats 12 years back then . But either way , u dont seem to understand the concept on the disagreeing in those who should represent "the whole world" , or at least those who are relevant in recognizing such as the state of israel .
No Arab nation recognizes Israel , ofcourse the West do , its their damn creation .

But perhaps differing from u , i dont have anything to do with neither the "world" or the Arab opinion , as long as their isnt peace with the natives having such a state , I will not accept it . And simply letting time pass might even change their opinions , i have no bussiness with time . I will never recognize this Ashkenazim Jewish Zionist state of Israel . They have no business there , not in 1948 and not in 2003 and not in 2048 .

I could care less about what the socalled "world" (usa(israel self)russia-china-euro) says about this .

If Syria is attacked, I wish they'll win :D
(Maybe that it would be nice if they would have nucks too... as Israel)

:m:

Jerrek, your making all your friends in Israel look bad. I do not consider anyone who condones the use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear threats as human. Conventional warfare happens, but nukes are for inhuman beasts. I sincerly hope your imhuman deviance is rare in the world. You are dillusional if you believe humanity won't crush nuclear perpetrators,

Syria should start making powerfull allies A.S.A.P. And buy/make some e.m.p weapons/defenses, and s.k.y rockets(if you aren't aware of these, then that is your problem, they're amazing, and very cheap). And anti-aircraft defenses need to be a top priority, with the dependence both israel and the USA have on air strikes. 40 is not enough, you need them around every airbase and intelligence center, as well as the usual locations, atleast 100, and they better be good ones. If anyone the usa attacks syria it PROVES thier intentions, and alot of american citizens, even jews would be against bigoted genocide in the ME. Pakistan should ditch that stupid american dictator of thiers so the muslims would have a nuclear power to look after thier safety, as long as the weapons are strickly intended as deterents. Why can't all these fools stop being selfish evil goons and start saving lives instead of ending them? Szilard must be spinning in his grave.

No way Nkorea would be touched even right now , because it simply ensures destruction of the west coast .

Uh huh. And if you actually believe that NKorea has that capability right now, then I've got some prime oceanfront beach property in Tikrit I will sell you. Cheap.:rolleyes:

Thats because the russians never had to use them , they used chemics though and killed their own people even just to get the Chechnyans .

No shit. That's what I was talking about. The Russians don't have to use them.

But perhaps differing from u , i dont have anything to do with neither the "world" or the Arab opinion , as long as their isnt peace with the natives having such a state , I will not accept it . And simply letting time pass might even change their opinions , i have no bussiness with time . I will never recognize this Ashkenazim Jewish Zionist state of Israel . They have no business there , not in 1948 and not in 2003 and not in 2048 .

I could care less about what the socalled "world" (usa(israel self)russia-china-euro) says about this .

I'm sure that made some sort of sense to you perhaps.:eek:

SG-N
If Syria is attacked, I wish they'll win

If the French attacked them I'm sure that would be a distinct possibility.:D

If Israel is Attacked: Eveyone who helped will be destroyed.

the proud syrian has as much right as the americans to defend his country's integrity and right for survival

power to those proud of their country !!!

They have the right to defend themselves and we have the right to defend an ally. We might both be in the right but we would still win.

You do what you feel as right and hope things turn out well.

Originally posted by Clockwood
They have the right to defend themselves and we have the right to defend an ally. We might both be in the right but we would still win.

You do what you feel as right and hope things turn out well.

There is no winner in these wars. There is only the oppressed and the oppressor.

We will have to change that, wont we.

power to those proud of their country !!!

And that goes for Americans as well, right?

The American criminals accuse my country of having WMD, well, what about Israel ?? Israel has all sorts of WMD, did invade our land and the lands of other 3 arab countries and illegaly occupies the arab land and is in matetrial breach of more than 80 UN resolutions...so why this hypocrisy ? why you dont threaten Israel?

Now perhaps you see the effectiveness of the U.S. propaganda organs that pose as news media. Such as CNN, MSNBC and so on. Fighting smiling soldiers that pass out MRE's is a lot easier than fighting ignorance and propaganda. I personally don't give a damn about Israel either way, or Syria for that matter. However, I do see a great need for the U.S. to stop pissing people off. And I think that one of the best ways to do that is to throw Israel to the wolves and let it fend for itself. If the U.S. does not do just that, I don't want to hear ANYONE whining when the next skyscraper is reduced to rubble.

Justification of Israel's destruction goes far beyond a potential attack on Syria . Syria will merely enlighten the fuel of hate that has existed in the Arab world towards Israel for each of its 55 years of existence

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We know you feel that way against Israel, they are the people of God and you Hate them for it....

Your statement has fully justified our invasion.

The baath party is possessed of the same anti-jewish hatred as it's parent party the Nazi's.
We removed them in WWII, now it's time to "finnish" the job.
This is just a continuation of the last great war.

Originally posted by TheVisitor
We know you feel that way against Israel, they are the people of God and you Hate them for it....
Your statement has fully justified our invasion.
TheVisitor: please shut the hell up. Hating the people of your Bible is not a just cause for an invasion. There is no fucking reason for you to bring up the Bible to support Isreal, and it ony inflames things because, get this, Syria doesn't believe in your Bible. The fact is that (for whatever reason) Isreal is our ally. If an ally of ours is attacked I would not expect us to just sit back and watch.
Cut the Biblical justifications. Most american's wouldn't agree with you, and it isn't needed. There are better and less idiotic arguments you could give if thought for yourself for once.

Nah. He hates Israelies because they are Israelies. He would kill them to the last child even if they moved to Arkansas.

Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
:p it is so funny how are the American criminals misinformed.

Syria has more than 300 of these very powerful fighter jets.

I'M SOOOO SCARED!
http://home.earthlink.net/~buddha-buddy/karlpiggy.jpg
We've got little piggies that can go to Damascus too:D

The syrian army is standing in columns. One guy's sucicide bomber vest goes up and the rest of them go up in a massive chain-reaction. All 500 soldiers. =P

Originally posted by Clockwood
The syrian army is standing in columns. One guy's sucicide bomber vest goes up and the rest of them go up in a massive chain-reaction. All 500 soldiers. =P

Good Riddance!;)

I find that picture "piggies" very offending. Those things KILL! real people are dying out there its not a show like Fear factor or something like that. Please be more sensitive to other people. There might be people here who lost their loved ones in a war.

Years ago Turkey threatend Syria like US because they were protecting terrorists against Turkey. We were also very close to a war ( they sent the terrorists to Africa and no war happened) and i remember during that time i checked the military power of Syria in detail. I am sorry to say this but Syria is not a match against US. No country right now is a match against US unless they unite. However i am also sure that a war against Syria wont be the same like Iraq. I dont think that US has the power to attack to Syria right now. According to statistics US used 25% of her military power against Iraq. In addition if US would attack Syria things would get very ugly. Maybe ( a very very small chance) Arabs can unite and fight together. (i am not talking about jihad, cause jihad didnt work during the first world war when the Ottomans declared jihad and i dont think that it can ever work)

I want to ask you a question Syrian. What do you think about harboring terrorists in Syria. Do you think that you harbor them?
What is the general opinion of people in Syria about the Iraq-US war?

What do you think of the USA harboring Rumsfeld?

See this takes us back to the question "Who is a terrorist" A terrorist can be a hero for someone and a mindless killer for someone else.

Why can'y you all just stop arguing. I think it's horrible how quaintly some of you address the issue of death. Don't you have hearts? We are all living beings with feelings. Jerrek and Proud Syrian seem to be like the direct opposite of eachother, if it comes to this war of liberation/conquest. Can you be more compassionate to eachother.

We need to be more considerate. I think that the current administration is playing a dangerous game. I feel sorry for the people who will get hurt because of the ambitious dreams of their leaders. I hope that things will settle down. Maybe things very put into motion on 9-11 that a lot of people are seriously going to regret. I personally hope not.

We have to learn to live with eachother in peace.

:m:











P.S. I tried to be sarcastic on my last thread(maybe i over did it a bit). I am also sorry that i mispelled sophisticated. My bad :P

Originally posted by Coldrake
However, with you just saying in an earlier post that your country DOES have WMDs, "we do have WMD and we will certainly use them against you and against the terrorist state of Israel( the one behind all these troubles in the Middle east)" and will use them, doesn't bode well for Syria's chances of the US turning a blind eye.

Yes, we do have WMD, we are NOT signatory on the chemical weapons convention.

Israel Also has WMD, so why not inspect and put pressure on Israel too ?

we said before, we will ALLOW UN inspectors inside Syria provided they go to Israel too, but to apply one standard on us and another on the terrorist state of Israel is totally hypocritical.

Originally posted by Coldrake
Russia and China are both members of the Big 5, the 5 who already possessed nukes at the time of the Nuclear Prolifieration Treaty signings in the late 60s. At the time it was already suspected that Israel, Pakistan, and India either had developed, or were close to developing WMDs. Every other signee, which included nations like Syria (1969) and Iraq, were prohibited from developing, or being provided with materials to help them develop, nukes. The 1928 Geneva Protocol signees agreed not to produce or keep chemical and biological weapons. Although many nations, including the US, did not sign the original document, virtually all nations would later sign, including the US in 1976, and Syria, which signed it in 1968, and ratified it in 1969. It was considered vital by the UN Permanent Security Council to keep such weapons out of the hands of dictators, unstable nations, and what are now considered "rogue" nations.

This is BS, we did sign the nuclear treaty, and we honour this treaty, we dont have nukes, we do have chemical and biological weapons, which is legal since we DID NOT sign the chemical treaty.

what about Israel ??? Israel has more than 200 nukes, are you going to bomb it or as always being hypocrites ???

Originally posted by Clockwood
If Israel is Attacked: Eveyone who helped will be destroyed.

If Israel is attacked( after the Americans lead by their jewish masters in the white house and the pentaon) attack Syria, Israel will be destroyed ad there will be no Israel anymore.

we are capable of doing so without even using any WMD.

10,000 surface-to-surface MISSILES have aleady been dispatched to our great freedom fighters of Hizbollah, they're waiting our signle to turn Israel into rubble.

Originally posted by Clockwood
Nah. He hates Israelies because they are Israelies. He would kill them to the last child even if they moved to Arkansas.

No, you see, your American jewish-controled media such as fox JEWS feed you this crap: Arabs hate jews because they are jews.

this is BS, we hate jews because they STOLE our land and killed our people...we will not touch them if they move and occupy and stole arkansas.....but then, in Arkansas, you will see after few years how the people there will react, I bet the ARKANSAS JIHAD AND ARKANSAS HIZBOLLAH will emerge to fight for their land and their survival.

:p

Originally posted by TheVisitor
Justification of Israel's destruction goes far beyond a potential attack on Syria . Syria will merely enlighten the fuel of hate that has existed in the Arab world towards Israel for each of its 55 years of existence
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We know you feel that way against Israel, they are the people of God and you Hate them for it....
Your statement has fully justified our invasion.

The baath party is possessed of the same anti-jewish hatred as it's parent party the Nazi's.
We removed them in WWII, now it's time to "finnish" the job.
This is just a continuation of the last great war.

Let us read together what the jews say about Jesus and May the virgin in their holy book( the Talmud):

Insults Against Blessed Mary, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."

Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young, A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

Says Jesus was a Sorcerer, Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.

Horrible Blasphemy of Jesus,:

Gittin 57a . Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"

Originally posted by bwnk
I'M SOOOO SCARED!
We've got little piggies that can go to Damascus too:D

Your criminal fathers said the same thing before they invaded VIETNAM !!!

:p

I said that if Syria would be attacked, I would wish they'll win...

Originally posted by Coldrake

If the French attacked them I'm sure that would be a distinct possibility.:D

1 - France will not attack Syria ! Only morons would do it...
2 - I was against Iraqi war but I didn't care about the result once it had began. In Syria, it would be different as I already said it !
3 - If France would attack Syria (because of CIA's drugs or something vicious like that) I would still be for Syria... even I would never figth against my own country, of course ! Anyway, it will never happen :)

Originally posted by Soulcry
Years ago Turkey threatend Syria like US because they were protecting terrorists against Turkey. We were also very close to a war ( they sent the terrorists to Africa and no war happened) and i remember during that time i checked the military power of Syria in detail. I am sorry to say this but Syria is not a match against US. No country right now is a match against US unless they unite. However i am also sure that a war against Syria wont be the same like Iraq. I dont think that US has the power to attack to Syria right now. According to statistics US used 25% of her military power against Iraq. In addition if US would attack Syria things would get very ugly. Maybe ( a very very small chance) Arabs can unite and fight together. (i am not talking about jihad, cause jihad didnt work during the first world war when the Ottomans declared jihad and i dont think that it can ever work)

I agree with you ! But for "No country right now is a match against US unless they unite." : a country that own nucks can match USA (not invade it of course, but it can be safe !)

Originally posted by Truenemo1889
Why can'y you all just stop arguing. I think it's horrible how quaintly some of you address the issue of death.
I think its horrible how some people make a big deal about it. In fact I despise when people do that.
You are too soft, society has distracted you to the point where you don't even realise what planet you are on. Living organisms die, often. If anything humans aren't dying enough.
Thats reality.
Don't you have hearts?
Yeah, I have a heart and I use it to pump oxygen-rich blood around my body.

Coldrake

Uh huh. And if you actually believe that NKorea has that capability right now, then I've got some prime oceanfront beach property in Tikrit I will sell you


They have enough crap to scare the shit out of you for sure . I dont know weither they have amount x or y or whatever , i know they have more then enough to fix up your little westcoast . Cant u think in a different system where a coast of a nation can be wiped out or blown away , other than the cartoon-like vision of 1 nuke ? First of all they got missiles to reach , they have planes to reach , and they will kamikaze themselves ...... i dont really gove damn weither such is being done with 1 nuke , or with a month long attacks , they can fuck up the westcoast completely .

Another interesting thing for you perhaps to know , is that fabricating nuclear weapons is not the only way to posses them , certainly not as a stalinistic regime who had deep ties with former stalinistic regimes that now have collapsed and where its former secret services and mafia is holding nuclear garage sales .


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Thats because the russians never had to use them , they used chemics though and killed their own people even just to get the Chechnyans .
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No shit. That's what I was talking about. The Russians don't have to use them.


No shit..........Why didnt they have to use them ? Because they can manage fucking up Chechnya without nukes completely since they have an immense army and superieur weapons compared to the rebels , and again , they DID uses chemical weapons , and even killing their own civillians with them .

Thats why the Chechnyans need power that is equal , so that the Russians better think twice about what they are doing , before there will be no longer a Moscow .


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But perhaps differing from u , i dont have anything to do with neither the "world" or the Arab opinion , as long as their isnt peace with the natives having such a state , I will not accept it . And simply letting time pass might even change their opinions , i have no bussiness with time . I will never recognize this Ashkenazim Jewish Zionist state of Israel . They have no business there , not in 1948 and not in 2003 and not in 2048 .

I could care less about what the socalled "world" (usa(israel self)russia-china-euro) says about this .
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I'm sure that made some sort of sense to you perhaps.


Very much . But Ill explain it to u in a way perhaps making a bit more sense :
My opinion about the occupation of Palestine , after its concluded independently , its more linked to the opinion of the oppressed Palestinians , than to Arabs or to the opinion of the "World" . The natives in palestine are the Palestinians , and as long as they have no peace with their occupyer , there is not one single possibility of me changing my view just because its been 55 , or 155 , or 1550 years ago .
I do not care what the "world " has to say about this . The world's an idiot firstly , and misrepresented secondly .
Not to mention their conclusions are false as well .

Clock

If Israel is Attacked: Eveyone who helped will be destroyed.


Hey man....start acting then , cuz Israel has been under attack for a while now.......... Syria helps , Lebanon helps.....Pack ur bags and book a to Beirut man .

Gangadean .

power to those proud of their country !!!


Fabricated Patriotism is a sad illusion .



We will have to change that, wont we.


:confused:
U r the oppressor....

macheon

However, I do see a great need for the U.S. to stop pissing people off. And I think that one of the best ways to do that is to throw Israel to the wolves and let it fend for itself. If the U.S. does not do just that, I don't want to hear ANYONE whining when the next skyscraper is reduced to rubble.


Ur totally right , that would be best for USA...but its not possible as I mentioned before . Personally , i would thinks it would be the most disgusting thing the USA could do . I would even consider an alliance with Israel and peace in trade for the share of a comon enemy : USA . Israel is nothing compared to what USA's responsible for , USA and its history didnt start on 1948 . And if it would sell out the people bringing these Christian Goyim wealth of incredible ammounts.......and now they would sell out ?
Dont forget that a sellout of Israel is a sellout of the Jews......what are u gonna do with all those USA powerfull Jewish communities ?

Visitor

Justification of Israel's destruction goes far beyond a potential attack on Syria . Syria will merely enlighten the fuel of hate that has existed in the Arab world towards Israel for each of its 55 years of existence

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We know you feel that way against Israel, they are the people of God and you Hate them for it....

Your statement has fully justified our invasion.


Firstly ,my statement has no authority of justificatying your invasion .
I do not feel that way about Israel because u say they are the people of God , so i hate them for it . First of all , I dont hate most of them who are absolutley psychopathed by their own heritage and culture and hostility towards its environment . I find them sad.....but that doesnt give em any right to stay , not even the children if that is how it has to be . It isnt anything personal , i am not some psychopath SS officer spitting on jewish corpses and such . Everybody should and does get the choice what to do , their choice determines their destiny . But lets put some things straight here , I dont believe in no HaShem sittng on some cloud chosing his holy people . More relevant to THEM than me , is the fact , that their HaShem according to their own history , has not chose them at all , since he chose Hebrews not Turks nor Slavs nor Germanics .

If u would switch all those Jews with some Chinese.......i would feel absolutely the same about everything .
I dotn care that they are Jewish , get over that anti-semitism joke .



The baath party is possessed of the same anti-jewish hatred as it's parent party the Nazi's.
We removed them in WWII, now it's time to "finnish" the job.
This is just a continuation of the last great war.


It is u who put the Ba'ath in power and infrastructured their movement . And besides that , ur damn nation was just as nazi as germany before ww2......hating on their minorities and all that shit . If anyone changed that proces around (illusionairy but still) , it was the Jews coming to your land after ww2 .
So getoutta here with ur nazi-fordism , and finnish of urselves and create some equality at least on that stolen land of yours .
Dont go around stealing more..........

Clock

Nah. He hates Israelies because they are Israelies. He would kill them to the last child even if they moved to Arkansas.


Not me........id love to see them in Arkansas , Id suggest even friendly relations , and as long as these people believe they are Hebrewic (whitch they are not) , id even suggest a new brothering of the Semites (to whitch they dont belong but I dont care if its all for the best) . Moses married Zipporah , she was Arab . Peace is all everybody wants man......some just want a bit more of the piece than others .


We've got little piggies that can go to Damascus too


I could post here nice WTC pictures a bit modified with all kinds of cheering happy party people.....but im not as sad a u are .

Soul

Maybe ( a very very small chance) Arabs can unite and fight together. (i am not talking about jihad, cause jihad didnt work during the first world war when the Ottomans declared jihad and i dont think that it can ever work)


Why wouldnt Jihad be possible ? Why do u bring in the Ottomans , the Arabs defeated them (ofcourse with the help of the Brits-French). But Jihad is already working , just not en masse yet . Jihad worked against Sovyet , and its still working against the Russians/Israeli's/Amerikans/etc till this day . Now a Jihad en masse , would be possible as long as it is necesarry enough ,thats not just Arabs , thats 1 B muslims . The question is , when is this moment , and how will they act upon it . If they would try mass attacks like big armies (old skool) , they would be fucked up severly and Jihad would end in a mass-failure and a lot less muslims . But if they continue the "terroristic" approach , and stop exporting themselves to war regions , and start importing the warzone to the West (like 9-11) ....en-masse ..... its done for . hell yea Jihad would work , why not ?



I want to ask you a question Syrian. What do you think about harboring terrorists in Syria. Do you think that you harbor them?


But Bashar said himself , one mans terrorist is another mans freedomfighter . Its no big secret , Hamas & islamic Jihad who are considered terrorists by Isra-Usa , hang out in Syria all the time .
Just like Syrian explained his president chilling like everybody else , so does Hamas and Islamic Jihad .

Don

What do you think of the USA harboring Rumsfeld?


Syrian

I bet the ARKANSAS JIHAD AND ARKANSAS HIZBOLLAH will emerge to fight for their land and their survival.


Actually in Amerika it is tradition to murder the native population , historically i wouldnt give Arkansas Jihad and Arkansas Hizbollah much chance against Arkansas Colonists .

Lou

If anything humans aren't dying enough.

:D
Now thats something we can agree on , although im pretty sure our motives and selection might differ a bit .

Originally posted by Allahs_Mathematics
Now thats something we can agree on , although im pretty sure our motives and selection might differ a bit .
The planet's desperate, she's willing to compromise, your selection will do, just make it happen:D

The title of this thread reminds me of the attitude of the arabs before 1967. Nasser slogan for the war with Israel was "Will push Israel to drown in the sea". six days later, Israel was occupying one third of Egypt. It only took a smart SOB and lots of diplomacy to get the Egyptian land back.

If I was syria, I would forget the war slogans and start the diplomacy and kiss butt excercise....unfortuanetly this is the name of the game. If the syrians are to think that they can beat the army of the US, UK, and Israel combined, then I'll have to think that they're completely idiots like their friend Saddam.

Syrian
This is BS, we did sign the nuclear treaty, and we honour this treaty, we dont have nukes, we do have chemical and biological weapons, which is legal since we DID NOT sign the chemical treaty.

No, Syria is a signatory (http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/bwcataglance.asp), 1968, apparently you never went so far as to ratify it. But you did sign it.

what about Israel ??? Israel has more than 200 nukes, are you going to bomb it or as always being hypocrites ???

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if we destroyed both Syria AND Israel. Israel is as big a problem for the US as anybody else.

AM
They have enough crap to scare the shit out of you for sure . I dont know weither they have amount x or y or whatever , i know they have more then enough to fix up your little westcoast . Cant u think in a different system where a coast of a nation can be wiped out or blown away , other than the cartoon-like vision of 1 nuke ? First of all they got missiles to reach , they have planes to reach , and they will kamikaze themselves ...... i dont really gove damn weither such is being done with 1 nuke , or with a month long attacks , they can fuck up the westcoast completely .

As I said, if you believe they can hit the west coast with nuke missiles or planes then I've still got that beachfront property in Tikrit. You don't believe anything the US government says, yet you believe that little bit of propaganda. The Bush administration wants Congress to continue funding the AMD missile defense system; to do that they have to make members of Congress believe that there is a threat to US continental territory. So they tell COngress a rogue state can hit the US. Hell, they did that through 40 years of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. The military was always saying the Soviets had surpassed us in nuclear capability so that we could continuously build our arsenal.
Planes? Forget about it. The US 7th fleet, which stays in waters near Korea, would blow N Korean planes out of the sky before they could reach Japan.

Another interesting thing for you perhaps to know , is that fabricating nuclear weapons is not the only way to posses them , certainly not as a stalinistic regime who had deep ties with former stalinistic regimes that now have collapsed and where its former secret services and mafia is holding nuclear garage sales .

Wow. Can they really do that? I would have never known. That's one of the reasons the US has been tightening up its immigration laws, tightening its security, and increasing intelligence ties around the world. To keep someone from coming into the country and assembling a nuke.

Another interesting thing for you perhaps to know , is that fabricating nuclear weapons is not the only way to posses theNo shit..........Why didnt they have to use them ? Because they can manage fucking up Chechnya without nukes completely since they have an immense army and superieur weapons compared to the rebels , and again , they DID uses chemical weapons , and even killing their own civillians with them .

Thats why the Chechnyans need power that is equal , so that the Russians better think twice about what they are doing , before there will be no longer a Moscow .

m , certainly not as a stalinistic regime who had deep ties with former stalinistic regimes that now have collapsed and where its former secret services and mafia is holding nuclear garage sales .

Chechnya is not even an independent country. The last thing the world needs is a bunch of breakway rebels with nukes.

Very much . But Ill explain it to u in a way perhaps making a bit more sense :
My opinion about the occupation of Palestine , after its concluded independently , its more linked to the opinion of the oppressed Palestinians , than to Arabs or to the opinion of the "World" . The natives in palestine are the Palestinians , and as long as they have no peace with their occupyer , there is not one single possibility of me changing my view just because its been 55 , or 155 , or 1550 years ago .
I do not care what the "world " has to say about this . The world's an idiot firstly , and misrepresented secondly .
Not to mention their conclusions are false as well .

OK. I'll accept that. It's not a 'world' problem, but an Israeli-Palestinian problem. Let the rest of the world, including other Arab peoples, stay out of the affair and let the Palestinians and Israelis settle it.

SG-N
1 - France will not attack Syria ! Only morons would do it...
2 - I was against Iraqi war but I didn't care about the result once it had began. In Syria, it would be different as I already said it !
3 - If France would attack Syria (because of CIA's drugs or something vicious like that) I would still be for Syria... even I would never figth against my own country, of course ! Anyway, it will never happen

Of course they won't. The French only send their military into African states.

Originally posted by Coldrake

Of course they won't. The French only send their military into African states.

Our colonies were in Africa... kind of relationship ! (with some good things and some mistakes)
We were in Asia too during 60's : French were in Vietnam before US and were bitten... before US :(
In fact, French mainly get in their ancient colonies and in some hot points (Yougoslavia, Golf War 1).

Anyway, about Syria : do someone have a proof that they hide Saddam ? Do someone have a proof that they hide Bin Laden ? No... So, following US rules, that seems to be the only one that they follow, they are innocent until someone find proofs !
About WMD, as Coldrake said it : Syria is a signatory ! What about USA ? No chemicals ? No biologicals ? Where are the proofs ?

The title of this thread reminds me of the attitude of the arabs before 1967. Nasser slogan for the war with Israel was "Will push Israel to drown in the sea". six days later, Israel was occupying one third of Egypt. It only took a smart SOB and lots of diplomacy to get the Egyptian land back.

If I was syria, I would forget the war slogans and start the diplomacy and kiss butt excercise....unfortuanetly this is the name of the game. If the syrians are to think that they can beat the army of the US, UK, and Israel combined, then I'll have to think that they're completely idiots like their friend Saddam.


Uhm.....things changed , its no longer army against army , regime against regime ......we have entered the age of serious terrorism , unstoppable . Ofocurse Syria as a regime with army (like Saddam) would be blown the fuck away......million Arabs worldwide not .

And thats the question........will Syria be the trigger ?


Wouldn't hurt my feelings if we destroyed both Syria AND Israel. Israel is as big a problem for the US as anybody else.


Hey.....thats how i feel about aussie/canada/usa/eu and many more with certain "exceptions" within these fascist states .
But u cant seem to coprehend what Israel is to USA.....you funny people actually see it as some souvereign state that has nothing to do with u .
:eek:


As I said, if you believe they can hit the west coast with nuke missiles or planes then I've still got that beachfront property in Tikrit. You don't believe anything the US government says, yet you believe that little bit of propaganda. The Bush administration wants Congress to continue funding the AMD missile defense system; to do that they have to make members of Congress believe that there is a threat to US continental territory. So they tell COngress a rogue state can hit the US. Hell, they did that through 40 years of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. The military was always saying the Soviets had surpassed us in nuclear capability so that we could continuously build our arsenal.
Planes? Forget about it. The US 7th fleet, which stays in waters near Korea, would blow N Korean planes out of the sky before they could reach Japan.


U shouldnt assume how exactly my opinion is formed , certainly not by propaganda i dont even see .
But ur convential war strategy thinking will be explained a little further .


Wow. Can they really do that? I would have never known. That's one of the reasons the US has been tightening up its immigration laws, tightening its security, and increasing intelligence ties around the world. To keep someone from coming into the country and assembling a nuke.


Here u assume the only way to get hit is if somebody actually is in ur country . Isnt quite so........forget about Cuba for instance ?
But please , lets end this little what korea cant and can do game.....i know u shit ur pants when u see them on ur telly .


Chechnya is not even an independent country. The last thing the world needs is a bunch of breakway rebels with nukes.


Who's the world , those big 5 guys ? I wouldnt think so . Misrepresentation is a huge problem seriously needing to be solved , but thats another thing .
Chechnya actually is an independant country even according to Russia......the thing is it has a puppet government whitch = russia (sounds familliar) , and the Chechnyans aint having it . Also.....being independent , they are still occupied by russian militaries.....but thats ofcourse since the whole idependance thing is one big joke . Not relevant though for the point u wanted to make , they most definetly are independant since the day the Sovyet fell.......first not accepted , but oficially declared independant after the first war (the only war as far Russian care to see it since they claim there is no war right now and there's just one big party and everybody's independent ) .


OK. I'll accept that. It's not a 'world' problem, but an Israeli-Palestinian problem. Let the rest of the world, including other Arab peoples, stay out of the affair and let the Palestinians and Israelis settle it.


The other Arab peoples ? Its not an Israeli-Palestinian problem , palestinains are ARABS . All u try is the same thing what the Brits tried , seperation of 1 people . Its an Arab-Israeli problem , and Israel means USA . So what do u mean let the Israeli and Palestinians settle it , a USA tank against a rock ?
Nono.......I rather suggest a NUKE on Tel Aviv .

Stay out of the affair...lol
Do u even coprehend the ridicioulesness of these things u are saying ?

Israel = affair mixing , in any possible way to look at it .
USA dollars , USA arms , USA tanks , USA bombs.......

And besides man,,,,its not a damn boxing match in a ring with a referee........its life or death .

Hey.....thats how i feel about aussie/canada/usa/eu and many more with certain "exceptions" within these fascist states .
But u cant seem to coprehend what Israel is to USA.....you funny people actually see it as some souvereign state that has nothing to do with u .

You have no idea what I believe Israel is to the US. I see Israel as a pain in the ass. And yes I do see it as a sovereign state, whether I like it or not, and whether or not you accept it. Apparently about 90% of the world does as well.

U shouldnt assume how exactly my opinion is formed , certainly not by propaganda i dont even see .

I don't care how your opinion is formed. It's the opinion itself that I find disjointed.

But ur convential war strategy thinking will be explained a little further .

I'm on pins and needles.

Here u assume the only way to get hit is if somebody actually is in ur country . Isnt quite so........forget about Cuba for instance ?

Is there an interpreter in the house?

But please , lets end this little what korea cant and can do game.....i know u shit ur pants when u see them on ur telly .

I'd say NKorea is shitting in its pants about now, seeing how easy Iraq collapsed. They've suddenly agreed to sit down to multilateral talks with the US and China which they said they would not do last month.

actually is an independant country even according to Russia......the thing is it has a puppet government whitch = russia (sounds familliar) , and the Chechnyans aint having it .

Hate to break it to you, but declaring yourself independent and actually being independent are two different things. Chechnya will be independent when, and only when, they win it. And I doubt the Russians admitted shit about Chechnyan independence.

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OK. I'll accept that. It's not a 'world' problem, but an Israeli-Palestinian problem. Let the rest of the world, including other Arab peoples, stay out of the affair and let the Palestinians and Israelis settle it.

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The other Arab peoples ? Its not an Israeli-Palestinian problem , palestinains are ARABS . All u try is the same thing what the Brits tried , seperation of 1 people . Its an Arab-Israeli problem , and Israel means USA . So what do u mean let the Israeli and Palestinians settle it , a USA tank against a rock ?
Nono.......I rather suggest a NUKE on Tel Aviv .

Stay out of the affair...lol
Do u even coprehend the ridicioulesness of these things u are saying ?

Apparently you don't comprehend what you say and contradict yourself from post to post. You're now saying Palestinians are Arabs and it's an Arab-Israeli problem, yet in your very last post you stated:

The natives in palestine are the Palestinians

not Arabs, and you also said:

My opinion about the occupation of Palestine , after its concluded independently , its more linked to the opinion of the oppressed Palestinians , than to Arabs or to the opinion of the "World"

You contradict yourself every time you post.

Israel = affair mixing , in any possible way to look at it .
USA dollars , USA arms , USA tanks , USA bombs.......

And besides man,,,,its not a damn boxing match in a ring with a referee........its life or death .

So? I'm not keeping score; are you?

If Syria Is Attacked: Israel Will Be Destroyed
From what I read herein-and-abouts, supposedly the only requirement for Israel's total destruction by the mighty hand of the Arab World is Israel's very existence.

Well, if the so-called monolythic Arab World can destroy Israel -- after the US hands Syria's head to itself on the end of a pike -- then why hasn't it managed to do it before Syria's certain destruction -- were the US so inclined to initiate such an inevitability?

Sounds like the mewing of another Arab paper tiger.

And as for Arab terrorism against the West being the Arab World's certain solution to unwelcomed US/Western power-projection into the Arab World, don't you think your terrorism has already purchased for yourselves more US power-projection than you had before you started to terrorize the US/West?

US/West power politics wasn't bad enough, you had to engineer the easy rationale for us to project our armed forces into your neighborhood.

How dumb is terrorism if all it purchases for the terrorists is even more terrorizing retribution?

If the Arab World wants to play the Terror Game with the US/West then here it comes. Are you as ready for it as you claim?

whoo hooo!
now all we need is more pics and this thread is right back where it started! cmon! i wanna see some tanks g!

They will attack us on the backs of camels with their vicious flaming goats!

Originally posted by heflores
The title of this thread reminds me of the attitude of the arabs before 1967. Nasser slogan for the war with Israel was "Will push Israel to drown in the sea". six days later, Israel was occupying one third of Egypt. It only took a smart SOB and lots of diplomacy to get the Egyptian land back.

If I was syria, I would forget the war slogans and start the diplomacy and kiss butt excercise....unfortuanetly this is the name of the game. If the syrians are to think that they can beat the army of the US, UK, and Israel combined, then I'll have to think that they're completely idiots like their friend Saddam.

You are presenting wrong argument, first, the U.K. WONT take part in any military action against Syria. Tony Blair made that clear 2 days ago when he called our president.

Second, if terrorist Israel backed by America, attacked Syria, it wont be only Syria who will respond, the whole arab world will respond, and your skyscrapers will fall down one after one.

the Eygptian army is so powerful now that it can ' really' destroy Israel.

in our Middle East, there is a saying:

THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN THE ME WITHOUT SYRIA, AND NO WAR WITHOUT EYGPT.

What happened to you egypt?:(
You guys used to be cool...

Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
the Eygptian army is so powerful now that it can ' really' destroy Israel.


You do know that Israel has nukes. no

Originally posted by Clockwood
They will attack us on the backs of camels with their vicious flaming goats!

Yes, you are right, 50 years from now, the OIL will run out, we will be back on the backs of horses and camels and we will salughter you one by one....

:D

Originally posted by katavan
You do know that Israel has nukes. no

Yes, we do know that, and you do know that we have chemical and Biological weapons too...dont you ?

Israel's nukes are useless due to the geographical connection, the radiation will kill the jews too.

Originally posted by Mr. G

If the Arab World wants to play the Terror Game with the US/West then here it comes. Are you as ready for it as you claim?

The Arab world does not support terrorism, dont put the west with America...we dont hate the west as such( certainly, we dont hate Germany or France or Russia. WE LOVE THEM) but we do hate your government and its support for terrorism( Israel ).

You see, you are hypocrite, because you see only one side of the story...what about ISRAELI'S TERRORISM AND WMD ???

HYPOCRITES.

this is good. this is very good. i like the syrian's spirit. way better than those useless iraqi's. put up a good fight. i wanna see some dogfights.....

hey, why wait? war is coming, i suggest that you guys launch a pre-emptive strike! those who hesitate............!

onward o brave syrians. fight fight fight. protect thyself and thine ancient civ against the barbarian invaders!

Syria won't be invaded. If it is, China, Russia, and all the other countries have the right to attack the U.S. And that whole war on Iraq thing, the U.K probably only agreed because they sent the pilgrims over to settle.

"Israels nukes are usless due to the geographical connection"

You need to look up the meaning of..neutron bomb..Israel has them as small as a land mine, or big enough to kill evryone in Damascus without destroying a single building.

The USA has them too, but would only use them as a last resort. Israel , if threatened by WMD, will use them as a first resort.

Wow Jerrek, I just thought you were a really pissy right-winger (note that I do not believe the two to be synonymous with each other as some might), but as it turns out, you're a really really really pissy, really really really militant really zionist, really really really right-winger.

What's all this crap you're spewing about Israel and the Arabs? Oh yes, the ArabiNazis are all evil and all the people like you who hate Arabs are the chosen people of God. (whom, by the way, in which I don't believe) Now, isn't there at least a little bitty something wrong with that? Yes. While there may be anti-semitism in Arab nations, it certainly is justified. And if you ask most Arabs what they think of Jews, they will tell you nasty stuff. But then if you say, what about Jews that are against Zionism, they will have nothing but good stuff to say (usually). See, this hate for Jews is brought from the fact that nearly 100% of Jews are Zionists (or, as some of my compatriots like to call them, ZioNazis, however I feel that's overdoing it a little). Of course there are groups of Jews that are not Zionists, but they don't have relatively significant numbers, and quite a few of them are just Jewish as in having Jewish family but not as in observing fully Jewish religious holidays and attending temple (I believe I would belong to this category)

So cut the Zionist, flag-waving, slogan-screaming crap and talk real politics. Not a dicksizing contest here, that isn't what Sciforums is for.

Of course the last paragraph applies to Proud_Syrian too, but I must say that I believe that Jerrek has done much more of this during his time at the forums.

Jerrek, you may think I am a nobody, but I am a fairly well-respected poster compared to people who have just registered. You may want to treat me with more respect than you do n00bs, whom you seem to abuse frequently, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me names like "bastard" or "dummy" or things like that. Take note, I didn't call you names, I only used mediocre labels like "zionist" and "flag-waving". Similar labels you could use on me are "surrender-monkey" or "left-winger" (surrender monkey is going a little far compared to what I said of you, but I don't mind).

Your reply to the above paragraph will be a showcase to me of your maturity. If you are mature, you will likely make a statement agreeing or will ignore it completely, or politely disagree. However, if you are not, you will start doing everything I requested you not do in the above paragraph.

Have a nice day everybody, I'm off to the toushokan.

You have no idea what I believe Israel is to the US. I see Israel as a pain in the ass. And yes I do see it as a sovereign state, whether I like it or not, and whether or not you accept it. Apparently about 90% of the world does as well.


I do now , and i did before . Im sure u love to believe its a pain in the ass , and somewhere it really is , but Im saying ur whole comparing system is incredebly incorrect .
I wasnt speaking of Israel in the sense that they are accepted to exist , i was speaking about the jewish influence.......oh nevermind u wont care to get it anyways .


I don't care how your opinion is formed. It's the opinion itself that I find disjointed.


C now this is the difference between U and me , Ignorance and Intelligence . U care about X . I care about WHY X . Thats why i can have discussions with people who are enemy to me even , on an equal level . And thats why u have an opinion that has no backbone than emotional mambo jumbo .


Is there an interpreter in the house?


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But cuz im nice , I meant to remind u of the fact that it isnt necesarry to bring in a nuke through smuggling it in , but that it could be fired