Idiot reporter explains why he threw his shoe at GW

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  1. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29273263/?GT1=43001

    IDGRA why he did it, to me he's still just another douche bag wanting attention.
    Dubya disappoints the hell out of me as well, but at least I'm mature enough to not throw a shoe at him in public.

    The fact that it enraged him doesn't bother me. The fact that he gave into his impulses like an undisciplined, bratty kid does. What a tool.
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    He broke Bush's little bubble, that press conference was supposed to wrap up Bush's legacy in Iraq as a success, and instead it became representative of the true story- that Iraqis are pissed about what has become of their country. Al-Zeidi is a true hero, just like that guy that told Cheney to go fuck himself.
     
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  5. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    The only sad thing here is that,
    1. He missed.
    2. The shoes were not metal capped.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Corrected.

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  8. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Pathetic that people have let their hate overcome their civility and maturity. There is a word for it: Barbarism.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, imagine destroying two countries for no reason.

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    I think the shoe throwing is great. Weapons of Moron Destruction.
     
  10. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    lol
     
  11. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Stamp out illiteracy !

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  13. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Are you really this daft or do you enjoy saying inane things? "No reason"? You might not agree with the reasons, but don't make foolish statements that paint an inaccurate picture of some anarchist let loose.

    Elsewhere, I detailed in other threads why throwing a shoe at people you don't like is not only dumb, but barbaric. Seek those comments out. Educate yourself.
     
  14. Clucky Registered Senior Member

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    An act of protest is not barbaric. I think it was quite courageous to throw his shoe at a first-world leader. I hardly think throwing a shoe at someone qualifies as barbaric either; I mean, how life threatening must it have been for Bush, to be under siege from... one shoe wielding reporter. In fact, Bush was right after the incident when he said, "that's what people do in a free society." They protest. His shoe was a symbol for Iraqi frustration.

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  15. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. Again, too bad he missed.

    "Barbaric" is rather a term that can be used to describe issues such as "detention without trail" and "illegal invasion of sovereign nations".
     
  16. Clucky Registered Senior Member

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    I think it can also apply to water-boarding by the CIA, torture at black-sites that aren't officially within the jurisdiction of the United States and the hanging of Saddam Hussein. How can powerful countries like the USA and Britain expect the world to be civilized if they are not exemplary in their own conduct.

    For the record I am British, and no, I do not agree with Saddam's massacre of the Kurds and innocent Iraqis, but nor do I agree with his execution.
     
  17. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    That is refreshing to hear Clucky. I think FAR too much abuse of human rights has occurred in the last 10 years by many parties. I agree that Saddam did not get a fair trail, and of course this type of behavior creates a precedent.
     
  18. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Idiot poster demonstrates his oversimplified and uneducated analysis of a complex political and moral issue.

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  19. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    An act of protest itself is not barbaric, but an act of protest that turns violent, breaks the law, is example of temper and not intellect and a flagrant violation of professionalism is barbaric -- or, at the very least, immature.


    I don't. I think it was violent, illegal, unprofessional and stupid. Children have similar temper tantrums. We punish them for it. The fact is you are only applauding this boob because your hatred of Bush has overwhelmed your ability to examine the incident objectively. That, and you probably think it's "cool" in a smoking behind the school kind of way.

    People in a free society are not allowed to have violent protests that end up in assault.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    He wasn't trying to hurt Bush, obviously, it's a common insult in the Arab world, and thus the equivalent of giving Bush the finger. It's no different than the Boston Tea Party.
     
  21. Clucky Registered Senior Member

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    Everybody gets angry, sometimes violent, in frustration. I hardly call throwing a couple of shoes barbaric or violent. His intention was obviously not to hurt Bush, otherwise he would have used a more appropriate weapon

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    . He was pointing out how angry he was with America. Actions speak louder than words. Peaceful protest is obviously preferable, but when nobody is listening to your words sometimes you resort to action. The suffragettes for example, achieved a hell of a lot, using what most would consider terrible methods.

    Being unprofessional is... unprofessional, not barbaric. This rhetoric is nothing more than emotive language.


    I'm not applauding his actions, and I assure you I am not clouded in this "hatred of Bush" you mention. I will say, once again, that I simply think that this shows the frustration of some Iraqi citizens. It was courageous. Not necessarily right, but courageous nonetheless.


    No, they are free to have violent protests, that do break the law. But for this, they also have to suffer the consequences. Nevertheless they are still free to do so. That is the brilliance of protesting in a democracy.
     
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  22. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    There are more cultural customs and norms, than the US variety.

    There are more cultural customs and norms, than the US variety.

    There are more cultural customs and norms, than the US variety.
     
  23. Clucky Registered Senior Member

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    Another excellent point well made.
     

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