Ideal Human Nutrition

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by allisone417, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. allisone417 i'll be in my room Registered Senior Member

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    Whenever I go looking for any information all I come up with are fad diets, nutritional facts and "what's your ideal weight?".

    Does anyone know of any sites, books, articles on the subject for the ideal nutritional diet for a human being, specifically female? Or it could be discussed here...I'm just trying to learn how to take care of myself.
     
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  3. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    This is the best I've come across:
    http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/19

    The jist of it is.. plenty of vegetables (especially green leafy), nuts, fruits, fish oils, no red meat, occasional poultry.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm no expert, but I think a balanced diet is the main thing. That means you ought to eat green stuff - vegetables, salads etc. Meat is optional. All things in moderation. Eat junk food only occasionally (maybe once a week, max.).

    And don't forget to get some exercise, too. A half-hour walk every day is better than nothing.
     
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  7. c'est moi all is energy and entropy Registered Senior Member

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    Be carefull as a vegetarian. I never cared taking supplements (like B12) and became really sick because of that (I'm a vegetarian since childhood).

    A full diet of course contains the necessarry proteins, vitamines and fats.

    One of the most important things we all lack since this century are Omega-3 fats. This is due to our methods of agriculture (less omega3 in wheat), the kind of meat we eat (less omega 3) and the kinds of fat fish (a lot of it is not from the oceans but is grown in bassins which lowers the omega3 fats in the fish as there is no plankton in their diet).

    On the other hand, we have too much omega 6 fats, as they are abundant in oils and other resources. This causes our bodies to respond to quickly with infecteous reactions. The ratio of omega3 - omega6 in our body should be 1:
    1. Many people have something like 30:1

    The results are not only on a physical level (increase of allergetic reactions and infectious cause diseases) but also on a psychological one (omega3 makes up brain cell membranes for a big part): depression, ADHD, etc. are modern "diseases" that are strongly related to the decrease of this fat in our daily diet.

    http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p981222.html

    Fruit is also very important. 2 pieces of fruit each day should lower your chances for developping any cancer for 50%.

    Milk - and especially pasteurised milk - is not required in your diet. This is a common misconception. Only fresh milk contains something your body can use - and still, it's not much. Once it has been pasteurised, it's even worse, as all the usefull stuff is destroyed due to the heat. Too much milk even causes osteoporosis!

    Cheese is healthy and contains good vitamines. It has even been shown that it prevents sclerosis from developping.

    Take vitamine supplements every day. Our fruits and vegetables are of poor quality in general. They no longer contain all the things we need. We all lead artificial lives now, so taking the necessarry supplement each day are not a stupid thing to do. The thing is that you have to take GOOD supplements - you can compare the quality between them like the quality of recreational drugs.
    For example: If you take Omega3 fats from fish oil (which is recommended for everyone - vegetarian or not) be sure to take those who have filtered heavy metals from the oil.
    Synthetic vitamine capsules are usually quite poor. Your body doesn't recognise the configuration, most vitamines will not be taken in your blood. It is much better to take a thing like Spirulina - the vitamines are bound in organic molecules.
    If you're a vegetarian: Take B12 vitamines everyday. I take it seperately because I had a huge short in this due to several reasons (18 years of vegetarism, helicobacter pylori, tyroid gland which works to slow (btw, that's also something that causes many problems people are suffering from).
     
  8. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    please dont ONLY think of our diet but also how you get your food. try and buy organic foods as tese have more goodness, and no pesticides on them ...also seek out Fair Trade foods as tis contributes to non-exploitation of growers

    avoid too much salt, all sugar, and bad fats......research on tis. sugar--the actual substance we are familiar with is total non-food. it is crap and sucks OUT nutrients from your system......but also avoid substitute sweeteners, espsh 'aspartame'..etc!!

    you will maybe surpised how 'spoilt' youpallete has become in decadent modern living. forexamplecheckout how te fkers add sugar to eve fruits etc that dont need it. you will puke when u give up sugar and taste one of their vile concoctions!

    checkout this food. accordin to one ofthe top nutritionists patrick holford, it is one of THE mpst all-goodness foods. it is called QUINOA. is like this pulse food you just cook like rice. very very easy. 15 mins and you add to all kinds of foods

    good advice here about omega fats, the balance of them. i have a blanced oil of them every morning with cod liver oil. the latter is good for oiling joints and helping to prevent arthritis

    try and get used to actually cookin food. to chopping and spending time to do fresh food.

    stick wid us kid and yer cheeks 'll be glowin
     
  9. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I eat what is considered by experts to be a good diet, take vitamins etc. but did not know about the omega 3 to 6 ratio importance prior to visiting this thread. For several years only Canola and much less (because of cost olive oil) have been used. Canola is rich in omega 3 (1gm / 15gms) but I have no infromation on the omega 6 content. Dose any one know its omega 6 content?

    Also what is the latest thinking on saw palmetta? Does it do any good or is the idea it helps prevent prostate cancer just wishful myth?

    Daily I take:
    General 100% MDR multi-vitamin with minerals
    0.5gm Vitamin C
    1gm Calcium (I also eat the soft ends of chicken bones and small fish bones)
    seven different B vitamins in one "B complex" pill (each at least 250% of MDR).
    On alternate days 400IU of vitamin E or 50mcg of Selenium
    and a couple of time /per week, 80 mg of "standardized" saw palmetta extract.

    In Brazil there are many more different vegetables and fresh fruits (cheap too) than in USA and about six different ones are in lunch and dinner each. Thus, I strongly suspect that I am wasting my money on the above vitamins, but so little is known for sure that I take them anyway.

    Breakfast is always one banana, micro waved one minute, then massed up with raw whole oats mixed in plus one piece of bread, usually a "whole wheat" or "multigrain" type that has been saturated with Canola oil. Plus two cups of coffee.

    Red meat about twice each month, ocean fish almost daily, but never large ones like tuna as I know mercury concentrates about an order of magnitude each step up the food chain and assume other heavy metals do also.

    I have extreme views about sugar - it is a poison. Mankind evolved a fine tuned insulin response system to the sugars that can slowly come from carbohydrates. Sugar was essentially unknown, and more expensive than gold 400 years ago. (Nothing in evolutionary history) Eating half a pound of sugar daily as most Americans do (unknowingly) is like playing the fine-tuned "insulin piano" evolution has given man with a sledgehammer! It shoots way up in response to sudden abnormal blood-sugar levels, which then crash and leave excess insulin in the system etc. We were not designed for this.
     
  10. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Hi...aint got time t fully read what you sent but did first bit. i was put completely off using a microwave several years back after reading 'Dr Mercola'.....was a mindfuk
     
  11. allisone417 i'll be in my room Registered Senior Member

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    maybe ill just drink more water...
     
  12. allisone417 i'll be in my room Registered Senior Member

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    it feels like everything i put into my mouth is bad for me in some way...
    isnt there some way to avoid it all?
    move to italy? something?
     
  13. crhto Registered Member

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    I had soda for the first time a few weeks ago, after not tasting any for over a year. I couldn't belive how awful it tasted, or that I used to drink a can (or more!) a day.

     
  14. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Organic linseed oil is akin to fish oil and full of Omega 3, but a mor palateble way of taking it, is by eating organically grown linseeds every day. My daily breakfast consists of half a cup of mixed seeds, linseeds, pumpkin and sunflower seeds (which all contain nutrients and minerals that we may lack in our normal diets) and a couple of figs when they're in season, or some other fruit when they're not.

    I lightly toast my seeds in the oven for 10 minutes and then I add some home made garam masala and a little chili powder for a funky flavour; I make a jar, which lasts me about 10 days.

    A few years ago, I got into D'Addamo's Eat Right for your Blood Type diet and although I felt great when I did it, I lost far too much weight, which is not a bad thing, but considering that I wasn't overweight when I began it and that I'm only 5' 5" with a bald head, after losing a further 6 kilos from my normal weight, I resembled an alien or a cancer victim.

    Now that I eat normal food and drink half a bottle of red wine a day, I have gained weight and look much better for it, but I can't get into most of my damn' trousers. Never mind, at least it's given me an incentive to start going to gym; I'm not losing weight but the extra fat is turning to muscle.
     
  15. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Raw natural food. We're creatures, like animals, so we should eat like them, like nature intended... maybe.
     
  16. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Some do opt for an all raw diet, citing it as the healthiest; personally, I couldn't and IMO I don't think our systems could cope with the parasites and viri in raw meat and eggs.
     
  17. c'est moi all is energy and entropy Registered Senior Member

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    Untrue. Heat will cause the cell membranes of vegetables to break up, releasing vitamines etc. If you eat only raw vegetables, you will not have a complete diet.
     
  18. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    In certain Buddhist traditions, monks are forbidden from eating raw food. It is said to stir up fire in the belly..

    Either way, raw vegetables help with your enzymes.. so it's good to eat a few.
    Steamed is probably best though.

    The Inuit people have eaten raw meat for thousands of years. It's a matter of developing a stomach from a young age which can cope.
     
  19. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Meat is not needed, it is better without it. Our systems have become weak because we have not eaten naturally. Steaming food means to release vitamins. The food becomes dead. Food made in a frying pan is toxic. Smoke is not healthy, especially if you eat it.

    If it was meant for us to use fire in our food, the food would be in fire naturally. Our bodies were designed to eat raw food. You become what you eat.

    Untrue. The vitamines are not supposed to be released.
     
  20. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    This is beyond stupid. We've been using fire for a million years, and suddenly, it's unnatural?

    If you counter an argument, you must provide some logic.
     
  21. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    No, it was unnatural since the beginning!

    You're so funny. If vitamines are released, then there's no longer so much vitamines in the vegetables, hence they're not so healthy as before.
     
  22. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Vitamins are destroyed by heat.
     
  23. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    so you dont overheat....end of problem. if you wanna eat raw food its up to theprson. many dont. so its no point goin on about it. better to recommend getting as fresh organic foods as you can. store it well outt of light, ad not for too long, dont cut veg until really necessary as that releases vitamins--Holford recommends cooking whole and slicing, choppin after cookin, and then dont over heat too much when cooking.....yuummmmmy yummmy. gotta eat. see yas later
     

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