smoking that is.
i've been diagnosed with emphysema and must quit.
i've smoked for 41 years and i'm going cold turkey.
i have a will of cast iron and i'm whipping this addiction into submission.

wish me luck people.

drat- got my hopes up then!

;)

Meanwhile, 41 yrs!! You are a million yrs old. I always had you down as being 25. How did that happen?

Good luck and sorry to hear about the diagnosis.

i've smoked for 41 years...

wish me luck people.

Good luck! But, I get the impression luck isn't what you'll need.

I quit about 4 years ago, I said to myself I don't care how shitty things get it will only be a month and I will be coming out the other side. If it got to bad I would just go to bed.

Sorry to hear you're stopping for health reasons, but you're doing the right thing. Well done.

You'll feel the benefits soon enough.

If you have the time, I recommend you try to do exercise when you get cravings for ciggies. It makes them go away and you get fit. Drink a lot of water to try to suppress your cravings for food, too. If you do those two things, it'll be a breeze and you'll be feeling much better in no time.

I need to give up again, due to some dental surgery. It's summer and I want to be in my prime, too. Healthy, toned and happy to take my shirt off on a beach :D

Well done in taking the first step. You'll be feeling great in no time.

Leopold99, be well in your attempt to be well.

I've started second hand smoking since I'm with my girlfriend... I'm going to have to work out how I can stop that

smoking that is.
i've been diagnosed with emphysema and must quit.
i've smoked for 41 years and i'm going cold turkey.
i have a will of cast iron and i'm whipping this addiction into submission.

wish me luck people.

When I quit some years ago, I didn't want to spend money on all that quiting paraphernalia but I found the following to be easiest:

In England they had a brand that had extremely low tar and low nicotine, which I smoked for a month or two before trying to quit. This meant when I actually did try to stop, the nicotine was no longer a factor. I never actually felt like I needed a cigarette, however I did find I had a psychological ailment.

The ailment was I felt like I wanted to do something every 5-10 minutes and I found it was pretty much due to when you smoking you move the cigarette to your mouth with your hand. To combat this I realized that it could be possible to purchase one of those inhalers they have, however they have nicotine in and I was already outside of those cravings.

So I got one of those thick straws you have at Fastfood restaurants for milkshakes and cut it into a few pieces the same length of a cigarette. Everytime I felt the anxiety of not being able to do something like smoke, I would just suck air through the piece of straw.

(I guess it worked a bit like how some people with anxieties use a brown paper bag to breath in)

Anyhow after a while, the knowledge that I was just breathing unpolluted air with no nicotine eventually sunk in, that and the realization that sucking a straw might of looked a little funny.

Still it worked and I realise now just how much a disgusting habit it really was. I mean the usual list is: Yellowing of teeth, yellowing of fingers, Changes in Mucus production (Some people spit from it), yellowing of skin in general (After all the blood flows round the body, contaminated air intake can make its way into the flow), Smelling like an ashtray and this is before bringing into consideration all the health related issues.

You'll find that Ex-Smokers will state those facts more to you than anyone else, thats because they notice the difference by becoming an ex-smoker over someone thats never smoked.

smoking that is.
i've been diagnosed with emphysema and must quit.
i've smoked for 41 years and i'm going cold turkey.
i have a will of cast iron and i'm whipping this addiction into submission.

wish me luck people.

Dear Leo

I am sorry to hear about your diagnosis

I wish you the best of luck in you attempts to quite smoking.

I will pray for your suscess.

I smoke and have been trying to stop for many years and still havent been able to.

The governemtns who allow the selling of cigarettes are to blame here as they are the biggest drug deals on the street.

I can buy cigarettes from more places on my drive to work then i can Paracetonal or bread. There is surely soemething wrong there.

I am seriously thinking about sueing the givernemnt for abuse of my human rights.

best of luck Leo.

~~~~~~~~~~
take care
zak

go for it Leo!

Saw my father die a horrible death with prolonged agony because of smoking. I wouldn't wish that on anyone except Bush!

i personally believe that "smoking deaths" are the result of a personal lifestyle choice.

smoking may cause cancer, but you didnt see such widespread sickness from it until the last 50 years or so.

native americans didnt get cancer from smoking, because they didnt pump the tobacco full of chemicals and shit.

its a matter of being healthy in all aspects of your life, not just your lungs.

Good luck with the effort Leopold. I am confident you can do it. (After all someone who is so damn stubborn in arguing against abiogenesis must be stubborn enough to quit smoking!)

Good luck Leo, I hope u get well soon.

smoking that is.
i've been diagnosed with emphysema and must quit.
i've smoked for 41 years and i'm going cold turkey.
i have a will of cast iron and i'm whipping this addiction into submission.

wish me luck people.

good luck, i remember giving up smoking, it was like beating up a small child.

peace.

good luck, i remember giving up smoking, it was like beating up a small child.

peace.

You mean, enjoyable?:eek:

Tough break man, I've been smoking about the same length of time and though my lungs and arteries are clear, I've really got to stop, I can feel them sapping my energy.

perhaps you think low of me... leo..

well... i quit smoking cold turkey...

and IF i can do it, then certainly you can do it.


i offer this advice.

learn to hate tobacco with every fiber of your body.

i do... i hate it.. and never again will i allow myself to have thought of love or like for that filthy plant.

it is a chemical lie... one that is easy to say... dont do it.

hate tobacco, and love that feeling of withdrawl.


for that feeling is a chemical stress on your own body chemistry forcing your body to start making its own nicotine... and its a good thing, and the only thing that can free you.... when you body chemistry re-establishes full production...


over the first 3 months... withdrawls will slowly drop... until you think you are free... but then the spiking urges start... strong and growing weaker over then next 6 months..

I found complete freedom from nicotine addiction after 9 months.

learn to hate it, and battle it everyday.

and do it with a smile, because you are stronger than any chemical addiction.

take pride in that strength every second of everyday.

and never accept failure.. because that will prove you are scum and weak.

you cant let that happen.

-MT

wish cancer was not present

You mean, enjoyable?:eek:

damn straight i took the candy aswell,:D


peace

i beat up my smoking addiction, it was my opponent, in a fight to the death,

i snapped my cigs in half and then stamped on them, then i gave in and went and got some more from the shop, then before i opened the packet i snapped the box in half and stamped on them.

then i done it again a few hours later and got some more fromt he shop, and so i smashed that box up aswell before it was open,

then i thought to myself, hey this is a waste of fucking money im not buying anymore, because i didnt let myself smoke them, i didnt think about it i just beat them up.


and it works trust me. pound those mother fuckers into dust.


peace

fuck all of that mental bullshit and step proggrams, and all of those nicotine patches and chewing gum, its all bullshit you dont need anything but your fists and some good old fashioned will power to make you use those fists,


just break them all,


peace.

perhaps you think low of me... leo..
what makes you say that mosheh? i don't have you on ignore.

well... i quit smoking cold turkey...

and IF i can do it, then certainly you can do it.
it's been 30 hours since i took my last puff and i am determined to quit.


i offer this advice.

learn to hate tobacco with every fiber of your body.

i do... i hate it.. and never again will i allow myself to have thought of love or like for that filthy plant.
just thinking it isn't enough. you must actually want to quit, be serious about it.


over the first 3 months... withdrawls will slowly drop... until you think you are free... but then the spiking urges start... strong and growing weaker over then next 6 months..
from what i read online the first 3 days will be the toughest.
if you can make it past the 72 hour mark your chances of succeeding improves greatly.

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Sorry to hear you're sick leo..:bawl:

Quitting is your only option and as hard as it is, just keep in mind why you are doing it.

Take care of yourself.

Sorry to hear you're sick leo..:bawl:

sokay bells, don't you worry your pretty little head about it.
i'm a tough ol' bird.
just wish me luck in quitting cigarettes.

Good for you for quitting, leopold. Sorry it's under these circumstances. I hope you do well in staying off cigarettes. We want you around for a long time. (Even if you do tease me:D )

good luck with the cigarettes. i.have tried to quit em'...

I quit cold turkey three years ago come Mid-July.

The first two weeks are the most difficult, after that it's all gravy.

Luckily, you're retired, so you can withdraw from the social while you quit. At least, I found this to be crucial during my quitting. I simply pulled back and holed up for two weeks while the cravings made me clench my fists from time to time.

Nowadays, I only get a vague nostalgic urge to smoke on rare occasions. Not a craving, but a desire to play with the smoke in my mouth the way I used to.
Smoking actually does have some beneficial aspects, but they are far outweighed by the detrimental.

Stand strong, my only advice. It'll get easier.

By the way, I made an interesting observation during my ordeal.

I made a thread about it back then:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=38923

But, the gist is simple.
It's well known that cravings are often tied to physical acts. Craving after eating, for instance. Or after sex. Upon first awakening. Etc.

I found that when a craving overcame me, I would automatically reach for my cigarettes before the realization would occur that I had no cigarettes to reach for. Then, I would clench my fists and squeeze until the craving... 'passed'.

This is expected behavior. No surprise.

But, what was surprising is that at some point I began to realize that the opposite was also true.
Not only did craving elicit a reaching response, but reaching elicited a craving response.
I found that any act of reaching (for the remote, for a glass of water, etc...) prompted a craving response.

Fascinating.
I think being able to observe my condition in such a clinical fashion also helped the effort to quit.


Anyway.
Another word of advice. Drink a lot of liquids. Tea. Water. Coffee. Probably want to steer away from too much sugar though. Might find yourself addicted to sugar and rather than emphysema your worry will be type II diabetes...

Don't smoke. Don't ever try smoking.
Don't take drugs. Don't ever try taking drugs.

Don't ever start and you want have to end it.

if you allow yourself to fall... and smoke again... then you prove you are weak.


if you hold fast to the never ending determination to win this battle, then with every passing moment of each day, you can take pride in your strength.

failure is not an option.

-MT

if you allow yourself to fall... and smoke again... then you prove you are weak.


if you hold fast to the never ending determination to win this battle, then with every passing moment of each day, you can take pride in your strength.

failure is not an option.

-MT

We're only human. Most people need to give up a few times and relapse before they quit properly.

The main battle is fighting those urges when you're feeling weak a few months or years down the line. All it takes is a few ciggies and then 'just buying myself a pack, so I can have a few' and you're on them again.

I think being diagnosed with something life threatening makes people have a stronger desire to give it up, though.


If any non-smokers are reading this, I've got a tip. It's a useful tip and might save you some hassle.

If someone you know is quitting, don't ask them about it a lot. Say well done after a week or two, but act normally (maybe even giving them a little space) and let them get on with it.

The worst thing is having somebody remind you of cigarettes all the time, and when you snap at them they'll usually start an argument because they don't understand the way you're feeling at that point in time. It's just a no-win situation. People aren't giving up for others, so they don't need others to congratulate them and tell them what a dirty habit it was, all the time.

Maybe it is a bit late for this advice regarding quitting smoking: don't start smoking.

if you learn to honestly hate tobacco...

honestly hate it...

then it wont be hard... it can be easy... if you hate that fucking shit.

really hate it.

its easy to hate.

somethings are worth hating.... like tobacco.

i hate it.. and i always will.

and it has set me free.

-MT

if you learn to honestly hate tobacco...

honestly hate it...

then it wont be hard... it can be easy... if you hate that fucking shit.

really hate it.

its easy to hate.

somethings are worth hating.... like tobacco.

i hate it.. and i always will.

and it has set me free.

-MT



i dont think you need to hate it to stop. i dont hate tobacco i laugh in its face and smile, "i beat you asshole suck my balls".


i enjoyed smoking when i used to smoke, blowing hoops out and trying to blow a small line of smoke through the hoope (wich i never could do).


giving up something i like made me think i was strong, if i gave up something i hated i wouldent think it was a big deal.


all you have to do is think of cigs as an opponent that you are fighting, and beat it up.


peace.

I feel like a cigarette.

i feel like a male human.

peace.

two days behind me and looking good.

Not got the shakes?

Shoot up some heroin to take the edge off.

Shoot up some illegal aliens.

I hate tobacco, and i want to sue the fucking producers for all the money i wasted...

17 years..
a pack a day.. 365 x 17 = 6205 at 200 a pack.. and 300.. say 250 on average ..

they owe me 15,500 dollars atleast.

those bastards.

I hate tobacco, and i always will.

if i allowed myself to like it, and associate happy thoughts with that evil shit, then guess what/..... id be smoking again.


dont allow your self to like it. or even think friendly thoughts for tobacco.

tobacco is the enemy.

-MT

move to japan,its less than 3$ a pack.and i can have a cigarette in mcdonalds and so kill all my organs in one go..


before quit for about 3 months (was at home and i dont like to smoke infront of my parents).the first week or two is bad but after that it just depends how much smoking is connected to routine.if possible change your routine......

Not got the shakes?
no.
the only real problem is the "i want a cigarette" coming from nowhere.
it's a strong desire to have a cigarette.

if what i've experienced so far is the worst of it, and i believe it is, this is going to be a breeze.

to all you people that want to quit but can't:
your own mind can be your worst enemy or your your best ally.

no.
the only real problem is the "i want a cigarette" coming from nowhere.
it's a strong desire to have a cigarette.

if what i've experienced so far is the worst of it, and i believe it is, this is going to be a breeze.

to all you people that want to quit but can't:
your own mind can be your worst enemy or your your best ally.

Try sugar free gum?

17 years..
a pack a day.. 365 x 17 = 6205 at 200 a pack.. and 300.. say 250 on average ..

when i quit i was smoking two packs a day.

Try sugar free gum?
no.

i bought some nicotine patches and i don't even use them.

nicotine gum is the most disgusting thing ive ever tried.i had bronchitis once and tried cutting down.its just easier not to use it.its like chewing oil mixed with chilli.

when i quit i was smoking two packs a day.

My dad used to smoke 4 packs a day, he started when he was seven and just quit about 10 years ago (he's in his seventies). Its possible, just keep at it.

My dad used to smoke 4 packs a day, he started when he was seven and just quit about 10 years ago (he's in his seventies). Its possible, just keep at it.

fuck.that is pretty much only taking breaks to shit and eat.

fuck.that is pretty much only taking breaks to shit and eat.

He used to light one from the other. And always bought the twenties, not the tens.

i think we should meet.he deserves a high five.

My dad used to smoke 4 packs a day, he started when he was seven and just quit about 10 years ago (he's in his seventies). Its possible, just keep at it.
4 packs a day?! :eek:
i was a chain smoker. i would light a cigarette and there would be one , maybe two, already lit, in the ashtray. my average was 2 packs a day.

anyway i'm glad your dad quit.

i think we should meet.he deserves a high five.
The most astounding part is all he suffers from is reduced lung function (ie breathlessness) and blood pressure; and hes had the BP since he was 30!:eek:

Plus his lung function is better now; swimming helps.

4 packs a day?! :eek:
i was a chain smoker. i would light a cigarette and there would be one , maybe two, already lit, in the ashtray. my average was 2 packs a day.

anyway i'm glad your dad quit.

Thats a pack of tens I'm talking about (although he bought 20s); he smoked an average 40 cigs a day.

i missed you sam.

i missed you sam.

I haven't been gone!:confused:

every single day when i was giving up smoking i was around smokers. i had to work in a lorry with another driver and he smoked tons of cigs infront of me, i didnt ask him to stop for me i just let him do what he wants,


i thought hey ive got to get used to bieng around others and seeing others smoke, so i got used to it. but it was kinda annoying having smoke blown in my face when im trying to quit.


if you can beat the first 3-4 days man then you know you can do it, they are the hardest,

be ready to gain some weight though man, when you quit smoking you gain serious weight, i put on like 2 stone,


peace.

Shoot up some illegal aliens.

Better get to shootin' before they're permanent residents. Time's runnin' out!

Better get to shootin' before they're permanent residents. Time's runnin' out!

I got a few shotguns. Who needs one?

3 days behind me.

cool.i think the 3rd 4th days are the hardest.good luck.

3 days behind me.

excellent Leo, excellent.

May you be successful

3 days behind me.

Let us know how today went. Would you be able to compare the days and tell us which one was the worst?

i'm 11 hours into the 4th day.
amazingly it was my worst so far.
i've had 4 craves that were pretty intense.
i think i know what the triggers were for those craves.
i purchased 2 used computers and i was in the process of seeing how i could use the hardware and upgrading it's software. one of the computers had a bios password that i had to disable before it would even boot.
usually when i work on computers i smoke like a freight train.

i also "cleaned up" around here. it was basically a desperate attempt to keep my mind occupied. i found a full pack of cigarettes.
i got my scissors and cut them up into 1/2 inch pieces.

anyway i got over it.

started walking for 15 minutes at the start of the day. this is something that would have wore my ass out. but after i got back this morning i wanted to go again, so i did.

ah the power of the mind. it's exactly why people fail, because they do not have the mindset that they are going to quit.

oh, and by the way, i'm still smoke free.

so far i haven't suffered any cases of nerves or jitters
i haven't suffered insomnia.
i suffered one bout of aggression and that was on the day i quit.
i was really pissed off about something, i don't even remember what.

Would you be able to compare the days and tell us which one was the worst?
all 4 days have been equally 'bad".
bad is the wrong word because they weren't bad at all.
as a matter of fact me and my sister are astounded at how easy this has been for me.

damn. it seems hard to believe that i have 5 days behind me.
i've got this in the can.
thanks to all who've said a little prayer for me.

There's no better incentive than a life threatening disease.

thanks to all who've said a little prayer for me. Prayer is useless and a waste of time. I do hope you are able to quit and stay quit. Watch out around the 3-month mark, 6 month, 9 month and on to the 2 year mark. Keep it up.

Prayer is useless and a waste of time. I do hope you are able to quit and stay quit. Watch out around the 3-month mark, 6 month, 9 month and on to the 2 year mark. Keep it up.
jesus a. christ!
did i just see a cottontop 3000 go through here?

today marks 6 days behind me.
i've been having some really strange craves.
it's almost like i am mourning the loss of a loved one. crazy.
i found that the best way to beat the craves is to go for a walk.
i measured a circuit with my car and it's 1.7 miles, i walk it 2 or 3 times a day.

This is good news. Please continue to not smoke.

You have let down the Tobacco Industry leo, how shamefull.

today marks 6 days behind me.


Excellent work Leo,

I must take inspiration from your sucess..

keep it up
~~~~~~~~~~
take care
zak

Failure Is Not An Option.

Fight tha powah! F+CK THA CIG PO'LICE.

=]

On a more serious note, good choice leo, I'm glad everything's going well for you. If you can repress your cravings for a few weeks, you'll be able to fight it off completely. I'm terribly sorry to hear about the diagnosis. Just exercise regularly and you'll be fine. A man of your caliber shall not succumb to a filthy disease.

it's getting harder.
i've noticed that there are 2 things that must be done.
1. break the habit
2. break the addiction.

it seems like the first 4 or 5 days was spent breaking the habit.

for the next week or so i must break the addiction.

i think i figured out why exercise helps.
seldom, if ever, do you smoke while exercising.

i think i figured out why exercise helps.
seldom, if ever, do you smoke while exercising.

I'd suggest it's a mixture of keeping yourself busy while also having your body produce chemicals in response to exercising.

What you might find increases cravings is things like Alcohol and caffine. Like you also mentioned previously times when Concentration is necessary (Like stripping/rebuilding a computer) is likely to trigger cravings too and this will take some resolve from yourself and some overall time for your body to find it's natural equilibrium.

Hang in there Leo.

This, too, shall pass.

7 days people.
it seems to be getting harder.
not so much the craving but the nagging feeling of "hey i can smoke only one"
i have to remain focused or i will relapse.

Don't. I had that same craving last year, after being off them for a whole month. I thought, I'll smoke just one but in the back of my mind I knew that, one would just make me start again, and it did.

Don't. I had that same craving last year, after being off them for a whole month.
oh man, bummer.
nicotines way of sneaking one on you.
i've had that feeling 2 or 3 times in the last couple of days
I thought, I'll smoke just one but in the back of my mind I knew that, one would just make me start again, and it did.
so you back to smoking?

Within days, I was back on more than a pack a day:bawl:

aw fuck tab.

well thanks to you i'll be extra vigilante.

Another bummer, statistics show that menthol cigarettes are the most difficult to stop, guess what? That's what I bloody smoke.

if you are anything like me you'll just not give a shit until the doctor gives you some bad news.

i've tried to quit before and never could.

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.

you cannot fail.

failure means death.

you must and will win.

you will battle everyday against evil chemical forces which tear at your very soul, but you will fling them off.

and with each day that passes you become ever stronger, and the weakness which was your addiction will shrink into nothingness.

this battlefield is yours.... and you must be willing to fight.

to the death.

you will win, and live a longer life... and die.

or you will loose... and die alot sooner.

either way you die.

how do you.... you... want to die?

Failure is not an option..... there is no other option.

-MT

the one year relapse rate of nicotine addiction is between 80 and 90%, you have a better chance of quitting heroin than you do nicotine.

the odds are not in my favor.

i've been looking for some graphs and/ or charts for relapse rates and i can't seem to find any. as a matter of fact the whole area of relapse rate statistics is spotty, i can't hardly find anything on the subject.

Leo.. it's probably because the relapsers fail to find something to fill the void os smoking. I think it would be a great opportunity to take up something that you always wanted to do.. but were too lazy to do. Just do the activity every time there is a craving.

the last 7 days has been relatively painless, no nervousness, jitters, or insomnia.
i've had cravings, but nothing i couldn't deal with.

i believe i am lined up to be in the 10% that make it.

i'll just have to stay focused, that's all.

ENJOY THAT FEELING OF WITHDRAWL...

enjoy it... it represents your strength.

dont fall.... dont be weak.

Failure is not an option.

-MT

since i can find almost no statistics on smoking cessation i am going to offer my opinion as to why it's so hard to quit.
one of the reasons it is hard to quit is because there is no statistics on smoking cessation.
another reason is because nicotine addiction is a long lived addiction.
the first reason probably accounts for the high relapse rates.
most of the information you come across relates to the following:
nicotine addiction is a powerfull addiction on a par with cocaine and heroine addiction.
almost everyone has seen drug propaganda of heroine withdrawal with the attendant sweats, cold chills, vomiting.
the above is probably a ploy by tobbacco companies to keep relapse rates high by making you believe withdrawal will cause those symptoms, let's not overlook the placebo effect.

the above, in my opinion, accounts for the high relapse rates and the lack of published statistics.

its very simple...

nicotine.. is a naturally occuring chemical in your bodies metabolism.

but.. you only need limited amounts.


if you smoke.. you are taking it it.... nicotine.

so... your body stops making it.

the withdrawl feeling is the chemical stress caused by a lack of nicotine..

this stress, causes the body to make nicotine.


thats why a cigarette makes you feel better.... it supplies the nicotine to balance your metabolism, and stops the stress.


humans... dont ever need a cigarette to relieve stress.

IT WAS THE CIGARETTE WHICH CAUSES THE STRESS.


it takes atleast 7 days for the body to start making it again...

but it will take 3 to 9 months for your body to return to full normal production.

-MT

it's hard to believe but i've got 10 days behind me.

message

message

hey it's Eurasia... with the big E

I think he's trying to tell us something!
Everybody be quiet and listen to what the continent has to say!

since i can find almost no statistics on smoking cessation i am going to offer my opinion as to why it's so hard to quit.
one of the reasons it is hard to quit is because there is no statistics on smoking cessation.
another reason is because nicotine addiction is a long lived addiction.
the first reason probably accounts for the high relapse rates.
most of the information you come across relates to the following:
nicotine addiction is a powerfull addiction on a par with cocaine and heroine addiction.
almost everyone has seen drug propaganda of heroine withdrawal with the attendant sweats, cold chills, vomiting.
the above is probably a ploy by tobbacco companies to keep relapse rates high by making you believe withdrawal will cause those symptoms, let's not overlook the placebo effect.

the above, in my opinion, accounts for the high relapse rates and the lack of published statistics.

Don't forget that people are weak-willed pussies who don't really want to quit anyway.

I think I am going to quit, too. I've smoked for 2 years and I'm just getting tired of it. I used to go a pack a day but I naturelly went down to 1/4-1/2 pack a day just because "I don't feel like smoking."

I bought some nicotine replacement mints so I can get my "kick" while I wait for my trachea to get back to "normal" (I smoke/smoked menthols so I have this constant cooling effect going on in my throat).

I've gone all day without needing to smoke since I bought these mints. I keep having this "need" to light up but it's not for the nicotine (since I am getting it from another source).

it's hard to believe but i've got 10 days behind me.

Excellent work leo excellent work keep it up

dam you bastard i envy you!!!!

i have to follow your example and try again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

take it ez
zak

I've gone all day without needing to smoke since I bought these mints. I keep having this "need" to light up but it's not for the nicotine (since I am getting it from another source).
you need to go cold turkey.
nicotine replacement isn't doing your heart any good.
it really isn't that hard to do.
the first 3 days or so are the worst.


Excellent work leo excellent work keep it up
dam you bastard i envy you!!!!

go for it man, i'll be rooting for you.

Don't forget that people are weak-willed pussies who don't really want to quit anyway.

i like smoking.
:)

you need to go cold turkey.
nicotine replacement isn't doing your heart any good.
it really isn't that hard to do.
the first 3 days or so are the worst.

The point of me going this route is that every time I stop, my throat/trachea keeps irritating me (again, I think it's the menthols). I need the smoke itself to make that feel normal. If I quit all together, I'd have to put up with both the mental pain and the irritation in my throat. At least this way, I can deal with one at a time.

I'm taking in far less nicotine mints than I am ciggs, and these mints contain less nicotine than the ciggs do. While I know this will sound like something an addict would say, I am not as dependent on the nicotine as I thought I was. Of course, when I first started smoking I could tell anyone that I truly was an addict... but as I have said, lately I have just grown TIRED of smoking and being a slave... I think it's this mentality that is making me get off easier than I normally would have a year ago. Plus, I've read half of the book "Quit Smoking the Easy way." basically, it's a book that reverses all the brainwashing that one has about quiting. After reading half of the book, I felt really bad about myself and from there on out to this day... I feel bad (and even sick to my stomach) when I smoke.

of course, time will tell. My throat is starting to feel a lot better after just a day. I find now that I can breathe through both of my nostrils at the same time :) Also, I'm coughing up a lot of "backed up" mucus... a good sign, I hope ;)

smoking is a nasty habit.
the room i have my computer in has a ceiling fan.
i would go in there and post on sciforums and smoke with the fan on.
after awhile the curtains was tinge yellow, the walls are still tinged yellow cause i haven't washed them yet, the ceiling fan had a cake of smoke p[articles a half inch thick on it. the ceiling immediately above the fan was black from smoke particles.

i've done made up my mind, hell will freeze over before i smoke another cigarette.

i've been marking the days on my monitor and i got eleven marks on it.

i've been having some strange craves for the last 3 days. check it out.
every night when i go to bed i start to check the ashtrays for lit cigarettes, and i haven't smoked for over a week. crazy ain't it?

So is it now?

i've got 15 days under my belt.
cold turkey too.

i've got 15 days under my belt.
cold turkey too.

Heh, well I know that. I mean, how are the cravings? How often are they? Etc...

But it seems my cunning plan of nicotine mints is really working. Since starting those, I have YET to finish my packet of 20 mints. I started on the 29th and I have 5 mints left. I've smoked 1 cigg everyday (one day I didn't smoke and I was fine). So, that means I consumed [ (20 mints in the pack)-(5 mints left)+(6 ciggs smoked) ]/7 = 3 nicotine products a day. I'm smoking one cigg right now and it's making me feel sick. Plus I am getting a super buzz. So, I think I am about done. I promise that the last mint I consume I will be done.

Plus, my lungs are thanking me by making me cough up a bunch of mucus. I can now run without my lungs burning afterwards.

Heh, well I know that. I mean, how are the cravings? How often are they? Etc...
i still have them. at least twice a day.

they aren't really all that intense, more along the lines of " i've been off cigarettes now for 2 weeks, i can handle just one".
it's almost like my mind is trying to get me to relapse.
i find i must stay vigilant and not buy any cigarettes.

you also must remember i quit cold turkey, without the patches or gum.
your experience will no doubt differ.

invert,
i must congratulate you on stopping.
i have talked to many people that have tried to stop and have failed to do so.
as a matter of fact i haven't met anyone that has quit and stayed quit.

i am staying the course because i know the benefits, i also see what an inspiration i can be, it's doable and i am going to do it.

I QUIT COLD TURKEY....

you can do it..... that feeling you have... its the chemicasl inbalanace... the chemical stress that will force your body into production....

that feeling... of withdrawl... is your freedom.


learn to love it... it is your best friend.. and tobacco is your enemy.


hate tobacco.

its easy to do.

I hate it... and always will... and it has set me free from my addiction.

its a waste of time... its gunna kill ya... it costs a fortune.

its worse than cocaine and herion.


it is your enemy.. do not forget it.

and every minute that you stand strong against your enemy makes you stronger.

you can grow stronger each day.

failure is not and option.

(honestly.. it will take 9 months to freedom... believe that.!)

-MT

i quit walking.
i've taken up cycling instead.
i've increased the 1.7 mile walk into a 3.5 mile bike ride.
does me good when i suffer from insomnia.

to anybody that smokes:
you are killing your damn fool self.

i used to be the same way, couldn't tell me anything.
i have my rights, who do these people think they are banning smoking?

if you smoke the chances are good you live in a pig sty.
not because you are a slob, but because smoking is filthy and nasty.
the smoke particles turned my ceiling BLACK, my walls and curtains tinged yellow.

good luck absane. i wish you all the will power you need.

today marks 3 weeks that i have been smoke free.

atta boy

I have a national guard style smoking regimen: One weekend a month, two weeks a year.

This combats my desire to smoke all the time, because I allow myself the pleasure of looking forward to it. Less harmful than your average run-of-the mill intake of smog, car exhaust, random fumes, etc...that you breath in an average year. It's a controlled moderation.

For someone who's smoked for ever...not sure how confident I am you'll be able to quit, but now you have some health incentive. I suggest some psychological incentive as well. You might need more than just the health incentive.

Looking forward to something can be challenging, but the bigger the challenge, the bigger the satisfaction. Not neccessarily the reward, but the satisfaction.

Treat it like foreplay. Say you've been fucking the same thing the same way for 41 years. Don't you think it's time to get a little creative?
Works for me. Understanding your nature can enable you to use it against itself. Addictive nature? Play games with it, but control it. Keep it happy and it will keep you happy.

Ah...nothing like dragging on the fresh end of a six month deprivation marathon. Deprivation = appreciation. Try getting addicted to appreciation. It's very rewarding. Start off easy, but set a goal that is challenging. Do sprints, not marathons.

Take it or leave it, but that's what I do with a lot of things.

For someone who's smoked for ever...not sure how confident I am you'll be able to quit, but now you have some health incentive.
i have quit.
it will be my choice to smoke and i believe i will stay off of cigarettes.
I suggest some psychological incentive as well. You might need more than just the health incentive.
i will stay off of cigarettes out of spite. i can be a stubborn ass if i need to be.

Addictive nature? Play games with it, but control it. Keep it happy and it will keep you happy.
i will stomp this nicotine addiction into the ground.
i am not playing any games i am deadly serious. after all cigarettes are.

I hate tobacco.... and I always will... everyone should.

Leo... you should download the program Silkquit. It will tell you exactly how long you haven't smoked, how many cigs, you did not smoke, how much money you have saved, and how much of your own life you have saved.

I finally quit cold turkey on Saturday (well quiting wasn't intentional, but my explanation will follow later). Here are my stats:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/absane/stats.png

i have quit.
it will be my choice to smoke and i believe i will stay off of cigarettes.

i will stay off of cigarettes out of spite. i can be a stubborn ass if i need to be.


i will stomp this nicotine addiction into the ground.
i am not playing any games i am deadly serious. after all cigarettes are.

Understood :-)

4 Days, 23 hours and 32 minutes.
Saved $13.45.... didn't smoke 89 cigarettes.

The cravings suck... and I am tired of waking up at 3 am every morning wanting to smoke.

4 Days, 23 hours and 32 minutes.
Saved $13.45.... didn't smoke 89 cigarettes.

The cravings suck... and I am tired of waking up at 3 am every morning wanting to smoke.

just hang in there. after a week or 2 it will be alot more easy for you. i remember when i gave up smoking, the first 3 days were the hardest, then once the first few weeks are over with its pretty easy from there,

i still get the urge to smoke even nowdays. i have no nicotine in my system anymore, its the enjoyment of blowing the smoke that i miss, i dont crave anything but i do sometimes just want to smoke for the sheer fun of it,

something that helps men quit is the fact that your penis will enlarge when you stop smoking, and you will gain body-size, i always say that to my friends who smoke when they are infront of women. "you know guys who smoke have smaller dicks, the blood flow to the penis is reduced making your penis small"

and guys get shy and it makes them want to quit lol. i love doing that,


peace.

4 Days, 23 hours and 32 minutes.
Saved $13.45.... didn't smoke 89 cigarettes.

The cravings suck... and I am tired of waking up at 3 am every morning wanting to smoke.
it gets easier absane.
i still have craves but they aren't as intense as they were.
sometimes though i want a cigarette so bad.
it has been 25 days for me and i keep thinking "i can handle just one cigarette" or i think how "refreshing" a cigarette would be.
it's time like that you must call forth everything bad about smoking, and there are plenty. let's just name a few:
1. smoke particles will get into everything.
2. cigarette smoke contains over 60 chemicals known to cause cancer.
3. smoking is the leading cause of preventable death in the US.
4. smokers stink. their breath stinks, their clothes stink.
5. emphysema is a disease with no cure. cigarettes are the leading cause of emphysema, quitting smoking is the only known way to slow its progress.

courtesy of silkquit:

smober time: 3w 5d
amount saved: $125.08
cigarettes not smoked: 833
life saved: 2d 21h

it's time like that you must call forth everything bad about smoking, and there are plenty.

[snip]

Eh... as I told other people, the future health prospects aren't what motivate me to stop smoking. What's making me stop is that I want more energy and that I am tired of feeling like a slave to addiction.

Ahhh.... it wasn't that bad this morning. Maybe the rest of the day won't be so bad :)

it gets easier absane.
the real test starts after your first week.
you will gain confidence in your ability to say no to cigarettes so much that you will be in real danger of relapse.

just remember, you CAN NOT smoke just one.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/absane/smoke.png

smoder time: 4w 1d
amount saved: $139.87
cigs not smoked: 932
life saved: 3d 5h

29 days. YAHOOOOOOOO !

1 month, 1 week, 1 day.

The governemtns who allow the selling of cigarettes are to blame here as they are the biggest drug deals on the street.

I am seriously thinking about sueing the givernemnt for abuse of my human rights.

Come on, Zak. Be a man. If you want to quit, quit. Don't blame the government for giving you the freedom to poison yourself in the manner of your choosing.

PS Congrats, Leo.

Bump for leo.

1M 2 W 3H

i looked for this thread two or three times and all i could see was two pages of threads. must've been some kind of server glitch.


PS Congrats, Leo.
thanks man.

Bump for leo.

1M 2 W 3H
2 months 4 days for me.

edit
purchased a bicycle at wal-mart for 56 bucks, a 15 speed mountain bike.
it's a bare bones bike with cheap parts, i've already replaced the pedals, neck (the part where the handlebars goes), seat, and rear tire.
i've put on a good light, water bottle, pump bracket, parts bag, rear carrier, and odometer.
i've also purchased a helmet (which i never use), knee, elbow, and wrist pads. i've also purchased a pair of riding gloves.
i've found that i actually like riding a bike. i put anywhere from 14 to 35 miles on my bike a day.
i guess the average is somewhere between 20 and 25 miles a day.

Good going Leopold, Keep it up your an example to those that want to quit.

Coming up on 2 months.

Thanks for noticing me Stryder :(

I noticed :)

I just kept quiet, didn't want to jinx you through the rough period of the first month or so.

Good going though and keep it up.

for all of you giving up smoking:

KEEP IT UP!!!

Coming up on 2 months.

there are times when i want a cigarette so bad . . . i can see why so many have a hard time quitting.

it's been 2 months 3 weeks and 4 days since i puffed a cigarette and i still go to bed thinking i gotta check the ashtrays for lit cigarettes.

there are times when i want a cigarette so bad . . . i can see why so many have a hard time quitting.

it's been 2 months 3 weeks and 4 days since i puffed a cigarette and i still go to bed thinking i gotta check the ashtrays for lit cigarettes.

I haven't had that experience you are talking about (looking in the ash tray).

For a few weeks I had no craving... but lately I have been very stressed (always on the move) and I find myself driving around looking for tobacco shops. When I am in the grocery store, I can't help staring at the cigarette shelf. And when I am at work, I have to watch my coworkers smoke.

Fuck, even talking about this is making me want to smoke again. It got real easy for a long while.. but sometimes it comes back very strong like it is now.

Fight the urges, I mean it's merely a psychological footprint of how previously you dealt with certain things in your life (like stress), try some other methods of dealing with it.

Smoking doesn't aid stress at all, it might sooth a smoker while and just after smoking but within 10-15 minutes they are usually edgy again and looking for another cigarette. It's not a cycle worth repeating for cost, for health and because I doubt you'd ever want to find yourself dependent on something like smoking for dealing with stress as it's similar to Heroine addicts using drugs for escapism (Dependency is a horrid state to be in).

I know what usually cause problems with smokers that quit is other parties, either their partners, work collegues or people they hang with tend to smoke too. This is a problem because of secondary smoke, I mean they smoke a cigarette in front of you and you breath in their exhaled air, this stimulates those regions of the brain that have developed in regards to escalation of Nicotine so you start getting cravings.

It will take a while for your brains to re-adapt from chemical dependancies, The longer you've been smoking prior to quitting the longer it will take, But the brain is a clever organ it can remap it's neural network on the basis of whether an area is stimulated or not, so it's up to you to keep the stimulation from smoking to as near zero as possible. (even memories can play a part in stimulating those regions and of course that's why you get cravings)

Fuck, even talking about this is making me want to smoke again. It got real easy for a long while.. but sometimes it comes back very strong like it is now.
you gotta stay strong.
it was pretty easy for me at first too.
but i keep thinking i'll just buy a pack and start again.

fuck! (damn, didn't you just say that?)

it's been 3 months 3 weeks and 5 days since i puffed a cigarette.

according to my silkquit applet i haven't smoked, get this, 3,796 cigarettes!
i have saved $569 and added 13 days to my life.

the intensity and frequency of my urges have diminished but haven't completely disappeared.

how's it going with you absane?

zak,
when are you going to join us?
you know you want to quit.

38 months for me. It was a piece of cake after that first two week nightmare. Very rarely I get some desire to smoke, but not anything I'd call an 'urge'. More like a touch of nostalgia for playing with the smoke. Blowing smoke rings. Etc.

Interesting how experiences differ.

how's it going with you absane?.

Easy as pie now. Not a single craving lasting more than 1/2 a second now.

Well, 4 months in and I started smoking again.


:(




















Only kidding! 4 months in and I have almost no cravings now.

Damn', I was just beginning to feel smug.

well...20 years and I never started smoking ever.

(I am 20)

where is leopold?

where is leopold?

dead. He is gone. forever.

Let us pray for leopold, the member that brought words of essence of it all.

dead. He is gone. forever.

Let us pray for leopold, the member that brought words of essence of it all.

Why didn't the Lord taketh youeth!!!

Why didn't the Lord taketh youeth!!!

because I have duties unfullfilled in this life.

Oh?

Well, 4 months in and I started smoking again.


heh, a real joker that absane.
i'm almost at the 5 month mark.
i still have craves though.

where is leopold?
i'm hanging tough my man.
i've seemed to run into a few personal problems and it's going to take awhile to flesh them out.

thanks for making me smile spurious, you furry little hunky monkey! :)

thanks for making me smile spurious, you furry little hunky monkey! :)

hang in there old geezer. :spank:

heh, a real joker that absane.
i'm almost at the 5 month mark.
i still have craves though.

I think it's safe to say that I am now done with smoking.. for good. I say this because lately I have been very stressed out... and not ONCE did smoking come to mind.. at all. I couldn't say the same thing 2 months ago.

And good job with hitting 5 months. They say that when you hit 6 months, your body essentially "forgets" about nicotine.

I think it's safe to say that I am now done with smoking.. for good. I say this because lately I have been very stressed out... and not ONCE did smoking come to mind.. at all. I couldn't say the same thing 2 months ago.

say that again when you crash your beloved pickup truck into a tree next month and it is a total loss.

I think it's safe to say that I am now done with smoking.. for good. I say this because lately I have been very stressed out... and not ONCE did smoking come to mind.. at all. I couldn't say the same thing 2 months ago.

And good job with hitting 5 months. They say that when you hit 6 months, your body essentially "forgets" about nicotine.

Your body may but your mind doesn't. It's been 12 years since I had a cigarette and there are times of high stress when I still think about it. It's good that you're not but I wouldn't going around expecting it to never come up again.

Ever try trauma therapy for those lingering little pushers that still scream, "take a drag." Find bobby pin and prick yourself if you have a thought or impulse like that. If you smoke for any length of time, your mind itself develops and utilizes its knee-jerk reaction to pick up and light. Replace it with a pin prick. As your mind registers pain concentrate on the idea of inhaling. Pain will always beat out pleasure in the mind's war of the survival of the fittest.

Learned

Ever try trauma therapy for those lingering little pushers that still scream, "take a drag." Find bobby pin and prick yourself if you have a thought or impulse like that. If you smoke for any length of time, your mind itself develops and utilizes its knee-jerk reaction to pick up and light. Replace it with a pin prick. As your mind registers pain concentrate on the idea of inhaling. Pain will always beat out pleasure in the mind's war of the survival of the fittest.

Learned

Never tried that although I did try punching walls a few times when I 1st quit.

say that again when you crash your beloved pickup truck into a tree next month and it is a total loss.

That's ok, I own 2.

That's ok, I own 2.

You crash your pickup truck no.1 into the other. A huge fireball. Both are destroyed. Insurance won't pay, because you were drunk again.

who about them apples?

Goddammit. I just started smoking. If I start quitting, can I hang out with you guys?

Goddammit. I just started smoking. If I start quitting, can I hang out with you guys?

I thought you already had a huge cock? So there wouldn't be a need to smoke and be cool.

My roommate had Medieval Total War 2. It totally lags. But that's okay; I'm playing the English. Lag never slowed them down.

That game's more addictive than cocaine.

I wish I could name my Faction Leader. I'd call him Doctor Lou Natic, and go on crusade.

He also has Rome Total War, which I have yet to touch.

Goddammit. I just started smoking. If I start quitting, can I hang out with you guys?

Thats a bit Fight Club (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/) of you Roman, Start smoking just to join the team of quitters. Just remember you aren't sobbing on my moob.

Seriously though if you've only just started, your best quitting while you are ahead, otherwise you'll have months/years of trauma caused by it. (while smoking and quitting)

And good job with hitting 5 months. They say that when you hit 6 months, your body essentially "forgets" about nicotine.
well it's been 6 months 1 week and 3 days since i torched a cigarette and i can tell you that i still have craves.
i can see why the 1 year relapse rates are close to 90%.

Maybe it might make it easier on yourself if you stopped counting down, so to speak.

before you leave, leo
has sci impacted you for the better or worse?
a rough quantification?
thanks

oh
i have been conned again

/flees

well it's been 6 months 1 week and 3 days since i torched a cigarette and i can tell you that i still have craves.
i can see why the 1 year relapse rates are close to 90%.

I used Chantix. Started in August, finished the first week of October. Went absolutely crazy until ... um ... about the second week of November. Good stuff, Chantix. Just ... well, coming off it is a bit rough. But then again, I didn't follow my doctor's orders, either. (My bad.)

i already gave it up bout three or four weeks ago
i read the posts people posted and the threads i said in em ok ok i put it out
so i did and havent had a ciggy since i bean kinda breathing better too
soo good luck matey and read the cigarette thread you will be surprised i was

Maybe it might make it easier on yourself if you stopped counting down, so to speak.
thanks to absane i have an applet that sits in my taskbar called silkquit.
it keeps track of elapsed time since i've smoked a cigarette.
i have been conned again
so was TOR when i first started the thread.
I used Chantix.
i quit cold turkey, and some of the mods here have seen first hand how frikken crazy i got.
. . . good luck matey and read the cigarette thread . . .
i can't if you don't link to it.

ben has started an addiction thread in the biology forum:
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=74535

today at 9 AM marks 7 months since i quit.
i do believe i'm gonna make it. :cool:

today at 9 AM marks 7 months since i quit.
i do believe i'm gonna make it. :cool:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/absane/smoking.png

I don't have a psychological desire to smoke anymore. In the past I mentioned how I didn't like nicotine, but I missed the actual smoking part itself (playing with the cigg, smoking it, etc). I no longer miss that. In fact, my desire for caffeine and processed sugars is decreasing, too. However, that's very likely because of dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors I am currently on.

[IMG]I don't have a psychological desire to smoke anymore. In the past I mentioned how I didn't like nicotine, but I missed the actual smoking part itself (playing with the cigg, smoking it, etc). I no longer miss that.

Since you no longer miss it, this is probably unnecessary advice but I recommend chewing toothpicks. I did that for a couple years after smoking and still do when things are stressful. Other than an occassional splinter there's really no health risks involved.

Good luck. *gives you a big old hug*

Hope you quitters are still going strong, if you aren't then before you waiver you might like to check out:
http://inventorspot.com/articles/japan_tobaccos_delightfully_dist_9553