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troyes123
09-20-07, 04:26 PM
The beginning of the Universe, the big bang, reality and everything. This theory combines both religion and science.

For hundreds of years many people have thought God made the universe. There are different religions that basically all end up saying the same thing about God - that God has always existed. He was not created and he can't be destroyed. He was, is and always will be existing. This is the view of nearly every religion.

Now looking at it from a scientific point of view, the current best accepted theory for the beginning of the Universe is the Big Bang. The definition is:

A broadly accepted theory for the origin and evolution of our universe. The theory says that the universe started expanding roughly 14 billion years ago from an extremely dense and incredibly hot initial state.

The big bang theory also states that all matter along with space-time was born with this "explosion".

The human mind is a complex thing. Right from when we are kids we are born with the ability to imagine. We can imagine anything right now. The moon? Sure. Space? Sure. Even if you haven't been to either of these places you get a fair idea of what to imagine. But there is one thing that you cannot imagine, no matter how hard you try. That is nothingness.

How can one prove the concept of nothingness exists? Technically you couldn't, but say you were able to pause the whole of the Universe at this moment and go to a distant corner of the Universe and start stripping down the entire contents of that particular portion of space - down to the last atom, down to the last proton. What would you be left with? Nothingness. But you would never be able to form a mental picture of what that nothing would look like.

The big bang theory apparently explains how the Universe started but actually it just explains how the infinitely dense singularity expanded to the Universe that we see around us now. It never explains how that singularity got there. If you ask anybody knowledgeable in this subject what happened before the big bang you would get an answer saying there was no "before" as time was born with the big bang. But this is just the man-made time. There had to be a prior event to the big bang. This singularity had to be born, it couldn't have been always there. There had to be some sort of event that caused this speck to appear out of nowhere. I believe what happened for this speck to appear holds the key to the mysteries of the Universe. So far we've been able to (reasonably) explain majority of the stuff in the Universe, but no one has been able to provide a satisfying answer to what it was actually like "before" big-bang.

Let's assume for a moment that before the big-bang there was nothing. Complete and absolute nothingness. Now if in a few million years everything in our Universe gets destroyed, there would be nothing left. Also absolute nothingness. So nothingness always has, is and will be existing. Just like God. The speck of singularity appeared out of total nothingness. Many religions say God created the Universe. If you clear your mind and try to imagine what nothingness would look like eventually your brain would whimper and give up. Similarly, you cannot imagine God, what he looks like, where God is.

Why then, when there are so many similarities between God and Nothingness, can we not say God is Nothing?

My theory is that that nothingness is God. This is not the God that can do magic tricks etc. But this is nothingness has an intelligent mind that ignited this speck of singularity to expand to what the Universe is now over many many years.

This 'God' that is talked about in religion is a concept invented by man for protection, later turned into an item of commerce and a basis for power. Any child left free from the shackles of doctrines, tradition, beliefs ,and philosophies too ,will see for himself that a seed will grown into a tree and a tree in turn produces seed. There is progression of everything everywhere. What is hidden in the seed manifests into a tree - this is how things are.

Nothingness is the ultimate. If you try to get away from everything that was ever handed down to you in an attempt to 'see clearly', you are left with Nothingness. Bur since we see existence all around, it must follow that existence arose out of that Nothingness, that that Nothingness contained the seed of what is now. The seed of everything and the workings of everything reside in that Nothingness.

Any comments appreciated :)

(FYI, I'm an 18 year old student from the UK. I'm doing Computer Science but my real fascination is the Universe; it's state, it's history, everything about it . I'm glad I found a place in sciforums where I can share and listen to views about the Universe. I look forward to many years of posting in sciforums!)

Oli
09-20-07, 04:40 PM
The beginning of the Universe, the big bang, reality and everything. This theory combines both religion and science.
Is this philosophy or science?

But there is one thing that you cannot imagine, no matter how hard you try. That is nothingness.
Error. A couple of us here at SciForums have stated that we can and do.

There had to be a prior event to the big bang.
Define "prior".

Now if in a few million years everything in our Universe gets destroyed, there would be nothing left.
Destroyed how?

Just like God.
God's existence is an assumption and doesn't tie in with science at all.

If you clear your mind and try to imagine what nothingness would look like eventually your brain would whimper and give up.
Not true and nothing doesn't look like anything, hence - nothing.

can we not say God is Nothing?
Lots of us here say that :p

But this is nothingness has an intelligent mind that ignited this speck of singularity to expand to what the Universe is now over many many years.
So nothingness isn't actually nothingness it's a mind?

Nothingness contained the seed of what is now. The seed of everything and the workings of everything reside in that Nothingness.
If nothingness was the seed for everything then it was hardly "nothing" was it?

Chatha
09-20-07, 05:10 PM
troyes123,
Before the muslms declare a major Jihad on you, i'l like to say something here, my own take. First, the only way to learn about religion is by reading the holy books, not listening to hipocrites and nut jobs. Second, time did begin when the universe was created, like you said "nothingness", which means zero seconds.

heliocentric
09-20-07, 06:18 PM
It sort of sounds like the 'first cause argument' (which is generally quite sensible), i'll have another read of this tomorrow, too tired atm > _ <