Alrighty, heres my dilema... Im courting a certain girl and Im having a little trouble telling whether she feels the samw for me.

"JUST ASK HER!"

Nuh uh... can't.

Heres the thing though. It seems like she does. She wants to do things alot, she talks to me all the time, etc. etc. On the other hand everytime we do do something, she brings someone along. EVERYTIME!

So... from a female's point of view... WTF is she thinking?

I don't know...

She might just think of you as a really good friend. Or she might like you. I'd have to hear more in order to really formulate an opinion.

Thats it... I dont know what other information I could give.

Sometime when you two are having a good time and laughing and being real chummy, cram your hands down her pants and check her for wetness. If she's wet, she likes you. If not, then she thinks you're a worthless piece of shit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is acceptable, right?

This is acceptable, right?

Of course it is. Works like a charm. It's called the 'Curious George'. It's a standard technique. What do they teach you kids nowadays?

I know what it is like to hang out with a girl and not be sure if she is interested, it sucks.

hehe, that just reminded me of another girl I was not sure about, I just grabbed her ass one time. it was all good but she moved shortly after, so it never became anything, I would IM her and talker to he on the phone and shit, but we kinda lost touch. man, those plether pants were so hot......................

where was I? ohh yeah. you should just find a two person thing for you to do, that way she can't bring a friend. use that time to get a better idea, and if you feel brave just go for it. carpe diem (seize the carp) baby, I let a girl with a hot ass and pleather pants get away, I don't recommend you do the same.

moreover, its always much more complicated if you like the person as a friend, then it could make things weird if your feelings are not reciprocated. so, you could always make a speech with that in it, like "I know we are good friends, but I was wondering if there was something more. blah blah blah"

I am no woman, and I don't know what they are thinking, but that is my 2 cents.

Of course it is. Works like a charm. It's called the 'Curious George'. It's a standard technique. What do they teach you kids nowadays?
Now. Just because Gendy and Xevvie may like it, doesn't mean that other girls do.

Why not simply ask her out? That way you'll know for sure without any further waste of time.

Plether!?! Wow... you shoulda held on to that.

Well we are more than likey going to Six Flags friday, me and her, so that is good I suppose.

And as for "Curious George," sounds fool proof. I shall try it as soon as possible.

Plexus,

Now. Just because Gendy and Xevvie may like it, doesn't mean that other girls do.

Shaddup, you. Better watch it or I'll shove you way down deep where the monsters are. Back from whence you came.

Why not simply ask her out? That way you'll know for sure without any further waste of time.

Because even if he did, he's still have to figure out a way to get his hands down her pants eventually. Might as well just start the whole shebang with it.


Gondolin,

And as for "Curious George," sounds fool proof. I shall try it as soon as possible.

Give me a status report.

As to the "Curious George," you have to sniff and taste your fingers after you do it, to get it just right. The animalism in that should be so overwhelming that the girl will bend over immediately and offer herself to you, in full estrus.

Have you thought about getting alcohol involved? If anything happens, well, you can eithe run with it, or right it off as drunken tomfoolery.

Damn you, Roman. I just logged back in specifically to add that extra bit about licking the finger. But. At least you forget to mention the part about looking her right in the eye as you do it. Or. If you're feeling cocky. Offer her a taste.

You know, I was fingering this girl once, and then she pulls my hand out and tastes my fingers. I've got to tell you, I was surpisingly put off by it.

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And by tastes, I mean the porn star kind of taste. I wish I had been a lot drunker than I was. I did drink a lot afterwards, though.

What?!
Put off?!
Man. You've got problems. That's fucking hot.
I always make it a point to kiss a girl after a cunnilingus session. I'm always put off when they refuse.

GHB.
It's your friend.

Cesspool, clear room, here we come!

Hmmm, I'll have to try this technique later (probably tomorrow.) Does it work for sure?

No wonder you lot are single.

Um, ask her out to dinner. That's a lot more date-like without actually being a date. If she's making a point of bringing a friend along, then A- she's only interested as a friend and wants to keep you as a friend, but doesn't want to date you. Bringing a friend is a nice way of saying it to not hurt you, or B- she's shy, and is too timid to make it feel like a couple thing.

If it suits the friendship, just turn up at her place and ask if she wants to go for a walk, or a coffee or dessert or something spontainious, so she doesn't have time to go. Her behaviour will tell you alot.

If she makes it clear it is just friends, don't punish her for it. Just be happy that you have one more friend to count on.

Hit her in the head with a brick and then have sex with her. This saves you money and a lot of problems.

^ I like it!

I think CounslerCoffee's idea is the best. Go with that!! lmao

Plether!?! Wow... you shoulda held on to that.
oh, I did. my hand didn't leave for about 5 minutes. I got her to shake her chi chis for me also. the only problem was, at the time, I thought she was a slut (big turn off for me), it turned out she wasn't as big of one as I thought.

no shit. Work your way through and have the freaking guts to express your self or walk out of her life! Be a Man!

Alrighty, heres my dilema... Im courting a certain girl and Im having a little trouble telling whether she feels the samw for me.

"JUST ASK HER!"

Nuh uh... can't.

Heres the thing though. It seems like she does. She wants to do things alot, she talks to me all the time, etc. etc. On the other hand everytime we do do something, she brings someone along. EVERYTIME!

So... from a female's point of view... WTF is she thinking?

If she doesn't want to be alone with you, doesn't that tell you something? Either she wants to be friends and she's afraid that you want something more, or she's just shy but likes you and needs her friends there with you guys. :p

Stop giving her so much attention for a while, or try to make her jealous or something, and see if she gets upset about it or starts to give you more attention (in a way that a friend wouldn't). :cool:

Oh, and make sure you shave your body well and wear shiny things. ;)

Alrighty, heres my dilema... Im courting a certain girl and Im having a little trouble telling whether she feels the samw for me.

"JUST ASK HER!"

Nuh uh... can't.

Heres the thing though. It seems like she does. She wants to do things alot, she talks to me all the time, etc. etc. On the other hand everytime we do do something, she brings someone along. EVERYTIME!

So... from a female's point of view... WTF is she thinking?


I'm not a female but what if they wanted a threesome?

Hmmmm.... good thinking.

here is a real idea. I still say you should just ask her straight up, but if you don't want to do that, then do this:

when she goes to the bathroom, or something, ask the 3rd wheel whats up. if the 3rd is there as a buffer because the girl doesn't want to go out with you, she would probably tell the 3rd wheel that. so you can just have the conversation with the 3rd wheel and avoid the uncomfortable part. or you could grow some balls and just ask her out. one of the two.

I see the "females only" requirement has not been enforced. As your elder, then, let me tell you a couple of things I've learned about women over the decades.

Women are not as preoccupied with sex and romance and "where the relationship is going" as we are. She may not even be thinking about it. She is far more likely to unconsciously assume this is a friendship and wait a lot longer for it to develop into a romance than you will.

If you're not sure how she feels, you can't go wrong by taking it slow. I guess today's young women aren't as likely to be outraged by a bold move and slap you or report you to a teacher or boss or security guard as they were 40 years ago. But that doesn't mean that they don't appreciate a gentle approach. Now hugs have become so casual that you can't hug her goodnight and know how she feels by the way she responds, even friends hug. But gently taking her hand or something like that. That is unambiguous and shows her what you're thinking. If she doesn't want what you have to offer she can pull her hand away pretty easily without having to be angry and blow the friendship. If she does, she can squeeze back or just leave her hand in yours and you've got your answer.

These days, some women are comfortable dealing with it verbally before any physical contact occurs. You have to judge that for yourself, but a question like "Where do you think this is going," or "Can we have something more than friendship" might go over okay if you're not comfortable initiating physical contact.

I don't know how young you are. Some of the things these people have suggested sound like jokes, yet I'm sure stuff like that goes on among teenagers. Somewhere out there is probably a girl who would get a giggle out of you sticking your hand in her pants. But if you guess wrong she might know karate. And even that girl would be perfectly delighted if you just reach out and take her hand. She might think you're pretty cool for being so "sensitive."

Just remember that once you get things started you may still need to take it slow. Some women will be ready to jump in bed after deciding they like you. But a lot of them will want some "romance," a gradual buildup of both emotional and physical passion. If you're one of the younger guys here you probably don't understand that because your hormones are raging and you already want to jump into bed. But women your age aren't usually like that, they don't reach their sexual peak until they're around 30. Some girls have sort of brainwashed each other and themselves into thinking that it's cool to treat sex the way we do, and by golly they'll go right out and do it. But you might give one of them a real nice surprise by taking it slower and letting her get in touch with her femininity.

You sound like the kind of guy who would naturally go for one of these more gradual, less aggressive approaches. There are lots of gals out there who will just love that. Don't worry about it.

So of course, Fraggle was dead on.

But I still stick by my suggestion of using alcohol.

Yea, what Fraggle said.... Im digging that.

All of the illegal ideas are wonderful though, I'm still contemplating.

If I drug her, there is fear of an overdose, and rape.
The whole hit her with a brick is to sketchy. Stuff like that leaves marks you know.
And she didn't like the whole "Curious George" approach.

[/quote]If I drug her, there is fear of an overdose, and rape. [quote]

Now that's freaky. Not only have you admited to wanting to drug a girl, but you've also admitted to wanting to rape her. If you fear doing these things, then you must want to do these things--but you don't, out of fear.

Yea, I just realized what I said... oops?

And she didn't like the whole "Curious George" approach.

Please tell me you really tried.
How old are you?
Muahahhahahahahaahaha!!
Well. Everyone has to try it once.

Details. What happened?

By the way, you shouldn't be asking this kind of advice here. The only real answers are pure common sense. Get her alone. Or try the hand holding stuff. Grabbing her ass might work.
But....
Please tell me you actually did try the curious george...
You're lucky you're not in jail.
Should I add a disclaimer?

Yea, what Fraggle said.... Im digging that.

What he said is shit.
As a woman, I'm telling you this - treat a woman like she's uninterested in sex, or like she's a whore if she's interested in sex, and you miss out on a lot of really good nookie. Furthermore, you'll be an asshole. Don't be an asshole.

Women are just as interested in it as you are - we simply want more intimacy before actually doing it. Read? Good.

So I suggest yanking open your fly, pulling out your dick and yelling "here's Mr. Snake, girls!"

Never fails.

Don't suppose you can get serious and tell us what you actually did? Take Fraggle's advice? If you were even half serious about the drugs, you're a sick sick sick man

Please tell me you really tried.
How old are you?
Muahahhahahahahaahaha!!
Well. Everyone has to try it once.

Details. What happened?

By the way, you shouldn't be asking this kind of advice here. The only real answers are pure common sense. Get her alone. Or try the hand holding stuff. Grabbing her ass might work.
But....
Please tell me you actually did try the curious george...
You're lucky you're not in jail.
Should I add a disclaimer?

No. I didn't try it. I'm 19 by the way.

A little update. Its going good and couldn't be better. Things are in order now and I couldn't be happier. I just finally grew a set and told her. Yay for me.

Just talk to her honestly...

Look above you. :)

!?!?

This is funny, cause this whole situation sounds nearly identical to what I'm dealing with right now. We're currently just friends, but we hang out a LOT, but I can't tell where she wants to go with things. I find myself wishing I could read her mind, so I can aviod the whole 'asking about us' part.

And I really don't want to screw up the friendship, and trying to make it more than that might make it awkward.

So Gondolin, join the club, I feel for ya brother :D

Sucks doesnt it. But just do it. If she's any kind of friend, she won't allow things to get awkward. I talked to her and its all cool now.

Hmmm, you're right. I haven't had one awkward instance with her yet, so I would think either way, we'd still be friends in the end. Hah, I guess I'll find out.

But damn, women have it easy. We're always the ones making the moves and such. Im just saying give us a hint or two, so we know whether or not we're jumping off a cliff.

I'm just saying give us a hint or two, so we know whether or not we're jumping off a cliff.Most women tell us that they're inundating us with hints and we just aren't paying attention or we're too emotionally immature to understand them.

One of the advantages of living in a cosmopolitan "melting pot" like the USA is that we can meet people from vastly different cultures. If you date a woman from another background and she's somewhat aware of the world around her, she'll realize that your body language, sly remarks, humor, subtleties, and all the little stuff that comprises 90 percent of our communication, is out of synch. So if she's as interested in the adventure and the challenge as you are, she may drop it and try to put all of her expression in the "plain speaking" bandwidth.

Now remember that a woman who's out looking for a man from another culture may be there precisely because she's trying to overcome the same handicap you are. You'll both have to be really tolerant and forgiving of each other.

let me tell you she know exactly where your coming from, gondolin.
she brings a friend along for moral support, also to keep her friends happy I take it she is'nt to old, just say to her can we go together somewhere just us two one day and then you'll get your answer, if she says sure or yes then she wants to be with you.
mark my words the woman choses the man not the other way round, we've decided whose taking us home as soon as we see them, then we just wait to see if you guys make your move. your all so macho.

Hey Gondolin,

I used to have similiar problems in highschool. Basically it comes down to confidence. And thats pretty much all there is to getting any girl you want. I also operate under the priciples of the ladder theory. I suggest you read it.

http://www.laddertheory.com

I agree, you need help from a female.

Trouble is that the help you need is not possible for you since you wouldn’t be asking for help in the first place, if it were.

It’s one of those unfair things about life.