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Tiassa
07-03-00, 04:46 PM
Okay--I want to throw this one in with Aliens-as-demons (sorry, Lori, it's nothing personal).

I mean, stories of Yeti, Sasquatch, and other creatures find their root beyond memory. Thus, I submit, from the July 3, 2000, Seattle Post-Intelligencer (our second-largest daily newspaper):


A Sasquatch alert in the Hoh Rain Forest

Saturday, July 1, 2000

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

PORT ANGELES -- Gene Sampson doesn't know what's been lurking in the woods behind his home on the Hoh Indian Reservation.

But he knows what he's seen -- he describes them as giant footprints -- and what he's heard:

"Bam, bam, bam, stop, bam, bam, bam, stop, bam, bam, bam," Sampson said this week.

His tales have residents on the reservation, near the Hoh Rain Forest on the Pacific Coast, locking their doors, shutting their blinds and closing their windows.

Sampson said some Hoh natives believe the invader is the elusive Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch, the large, hairy creature that has been reported around the world but is most closely identified with the Pacific Northwest.

Sampson says he found two sets of footprints, which he measured at 14 inches and 17-1/2 inches in length, and 7 and 8 inches in width. He also says he found trampled trails.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs investigated and is skeptical.

"I saw some big indentations that looked like footprints, but they were not that recognizable," said the bureau's Scott Small. "There is something big going through their yards, but it's most likely a bear."

Grover Krantz, a retired Washington State University anthropology professor and author of a book called "Big Footprints," said he believes the evidence on the Hoh reservation indicates one male and one female Sasquatch.

Richard Greenwell of the International Society for Cryptozoology calls evidence of such creatures inconclusive.

"On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, I absolutely believe in Bigfoot, after I evaluate all the data and read all the information," Greenwell said. "On Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, I think it's all nonsense.

"On Sundays, I rest."


I'm curious what other mysteries of the world, not yet attributed "satanic" or other nefarious origin, might play a factor in modern faith assimilations. After all, if I accept the folklore of a Lovecraft horror story, the Sasquatch might actually fit into a very liberal, worldwide theology.

Does Bigfoot play into our images of God?

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

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We are unutterably alone, essentially, especially in the things most intimate and important to us. (Ranier Maria Rilke)

Tony H2o
07-03-00, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by tiassa:

Does Bigfoot play into our images of God?

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:




Mmmmmmm, let me see.

A BIG HAIRY GOD with hugh feet who goes "Bam, bam, bam, stop, bam, bam, bam, stop, bam, bam, bam," as he tramples through people's back yards.........Nah don't think so.

Your actually right Tiassa, I think you may regret this ;)

Allcare

Tony H2o :D

courtjester
07-04-00, 12:54 AM
The only thing bigfoot does for me is to remind me that there is more things on earth than I understand. It reminds me that I don't know everything, (gasp) and that there are still mysteries to be unraveled.


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Lori
07-04-00, 05:33 PM
Tiassa,

Um, I don't know about bigfoot, but I think you may be on to something. I don't only think that demons present themselves as aliens or masters of wisdom or whatever, but I think that folklore, and mythology, and paganism offers up lots of examples of possible demonic presentation. Like what if the gods of ancient greek and roman mythology were "real"? What about leprochauns and fairies and goddesses and sprites and goblins? What about ghosts? What about indian spirit guides and visions? But bigfoot Tiassa? Come on now... ;)

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Tiassa
07-04-00, 10:05 PM
I thank y'all. It just occurred to me to ask; after all, it is folklore that occurs on at least two continents. While I wouldn't be entirely surprised to encounter a sasquatch someday, I must agree with Tony that I would hardly consider it the Hairy God of the Mountain.

And Lori ... (I hope I'm not picking too much here):

Like what if the gods of ancient greek and roman mythology were "real"? What about leprochauns and fairies and goddesses and sprites and goblins? What about ghosts? What about indian spirit guides and visions? But bigfoot Tiassa? Come on now...

Two points, if I might--

* Of the "What if" part--I'm inclined to ask, Yes, what if, indeed? Please consider, though, that I hold the Roman pantheon, faeries, sprites, goblins, spirit guides and visions as equally possible as any other sense of miracle cosmology I have encountered. To the other, I do have some discretion; I've read Lovecraft ... I've encountered a good deal of people who actually believe in the Mad Arab Alhazred; but Cthulhian theology isn't particularly well-constructed when removed from the fiction of Lovecraft, Howard, and Ashton-Smith. Until I see Lovecraft's tentacled four-beasts-in-one, or at least something that begins to apply to the world in even as vague a manner as the cosmologies behind various simple spirit visitations, I'll consider that theology mere fancy and fiction. (Okay, I'm rambling now. I'll wrap up the point.) What I'm after is simply that, well, Yeah, what if those things are real?

* But considering that the Himalyan version of Bigfoot is quite the refined gentleman, as such, alleged to have built a mythical city ... why be so dismissive of ol' Bigfoot?

I mean, I hate to admit it, but Bigfoot isn't much different from a host of American-born folklore exploited by X-Files and their ilk. Besides, I'm stunned lately at how much attention various paranoia-buffs I know are giving chupacabras, and other recently-exploited folklores.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm not asserting Bigfoot-as-anything. Frankly, though I think we're both aware of it, I'm not entirely enamoured by your alien/demon idea (though I'm hardly in any position to be offended by it, and furthermore can't think of a reason why I would be).

But I thought it was a fun idea, since the story came up, to see what anyone thought.

thanx ;)
Tiassa

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We are unutterably alone, essentially, especially in the things most intimate and important to us. (Ranier Maria Rilke)

Tiassa
07-04-00, 10:06 PM
courtjester--

In the end, all things considered, I agree wholeheartedly.

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

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We are unutterably alone, essentially, especially in the things most intimate and important to us. (Ranier Maria Rilke)

MoonCat
07-04-00, 11:40 PM
Yeti's back, huh?

I dunno, I have an Italian friend that could easily be mistaken for Bigfoot if he were to be wandering about naked in the forest for some unknown reason....

Kidding aside though, if there is such a creature I would consider it to be like any other critter. Not demonic, not alien...just a rather rare, strange beast.

Whether or not he actually exits...eh, I dunno. Possibly. (wishy-washy enough? LOL)

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
07-29-00, 01:06 PM
I dunno, I have an Italian friend that could easily be mistaken for Bigfoot if he were to be wandering about naked in the forest for some unknown reason....


Prove it!