Found out yesterday morning...
I'm shocked. We did it in our first try.... :eek:

I'm just.... wow.... :)

Jesus....

Yeah, tell me about it wolfie. I'm so upset I'm sick.

Muahhahahahhaahahahhahahahhahahhahaahahahhahahahah ahhaaaa!!!!

Sniff.
Funny.

I hope it murders you in your sleep.
Or spends years slowly poisoning you.
Or Columbine style on it's 14th birthday.

Or maybe it'd be best if you live to see just how fucked up it's going to be.

Muahhahahahahhahaaa!!!
Nature is fucking hilarious.
(And. Yes. We're all sooooo jealous.)

Oh. Congratulations, Xev...

It's almost 5 am and this thread knocked the last bit of sleep out of me. And I have a long day ahead.
Truthie, I'll never forgive you for this.
Somebody sing me a lullaby.

Truthie...say goodbye to sex...

And get married quickly and still try to make an honest woman out of her.

No.
No.

Eh.

yes

yes

uhm...

Anyhoo...you should be careful with announcing it so soon. The first 3 months are always a bit tricky.

She's lying to you.

She thinks you'll leave her like all the other guys she's fucked. And when she's done using you, she'll find another poor ugly sap to trap between her sloppy, world-travelled thighs.

$10 says she'll come up with a story about losing it, but will miraculously be pregnant again next month when you have an argument.

Same old story. I am just sorry you are so stupid and naive. I hate to see people with good hearts get fucked over.

Never thought I'd say this, but water is right;

You are a fucking idiot, fucking an idiot.

Good for you! Raise him/her so he/she doens't become obese!

Congratulations!

So....you knocked her up, eh? It's been a few weeks; is everything going okay with the pregnancy so far? Good luck to you.....you're going to need it!

I hope it murders you in your sleep.
Or spends years slowly poisoning you.

I think you have been watching too many horror movies that involve dolls with knives....

Anyways... you can go crazy, I don't care...

Anyhoo...you should be careful with announcing it so soon. The first 3 months are always a bit tricky.
Yeah, I know... read all about it...

We will see...

She's lying to you.
....[insert more nonsense here]...
Oh really? That's not what her morning sickness have shown me... :rolleyes:

She is pregnant... REALLY pregnant :p. And we seen the baby in the ultrasound. It's still small, though, of course...

Congratulations, if that's what you want to hear. :)

But what are you going to do now? How will your child look up to you? You're a 21year old kid with no education and few life experiences. I hope this is not something you come to regret, TS.

This is the sort of thing they try to prevent in high school.

Ever wonder that if she slept with you so easily, that she would have with other guys as well?

If you can see the baby in the ultrasounds, it's probably not yours man... They only look like a grain of rice at the 7th or 8th week of gestation. You haven't been with her that long if the posts are accurate. Do the math. You've been duped by big boobs and the oldest trick in the book.

But Xerxes is right... wtf are you going to do? How can you support and provide for a child when you can barely provide for yourself?

But what are you going to do now? How will your child look up to you? You're a 21year old kid with no education and few life experiences.
Ahh... no education? How come I speak 5 languages?

I hope this is not something you come to regret, TS.
Most definetely not.

This is the sort of thing they try to prevent in high school.
And they should! High school kids shouldn't have kids until they are at least 30 years old! Even then they are often not mature enough.... :rolleyes:

People with above average IQs usually have a hard time at school as they feel bored. They also usually go through more life experiences than the average person. How many people here have had to fight against drug dealers? How many people here come from an area of the world where there's poverty and violence around them? You obviously don't know what I have been through....

Ever wonder that if she slept with you so easily, that she would have with other guys as well?
Ever wondered that just because she slept with ME doesn't mean she is "easy" :bugeye:
Do you know how many guys would want to be on my place?

If you can see the baby in the ultrasounds, it's probably not yours man... They only look like a grain of rice at the 7th or 8th week of gestation.
Like a pea. That's about the size....

You haven't been with her that long if the posts are accurate. Do the math. You've been duped by big boobs and the oldest trick in the book.
She knows we have only enough to survive. Why would she choose me over other much richer guys that have asked her out?

But Xerxes is right... wtf are you going to do? How can you support and provide for a child when you can barely provide for yourself?
Well, that's the only useful question/comment you have made so far- and I apreciate that. I have savings... Meanwhile, I'm just going to go to school and work...

Does feeling skeptical about this whole affair make me a cynical bitch?

Oh wait, I am a cynical bitch.

I think Truthseeker is making this all up. I think the girl was some friend or chick who took pity on him, dated him for a few weeks then slowly stopped returning his calls. I think all this is self delusion on his part.

At least, I hope to christ it is.

Why would she choose me over other much richer guys that have asked her out?

What I want to know is, why would she choose you over a paper bag with rolly eyes and yarn taped to it?

I'm much more than my rollyeyes, babe... ;)

What do you want? A picture of the pregnancy test? Or maybe a porn show? Is that it? Ah? IS THAT IT? :bugeye:

LOL.... :p

I hope your children look like your wife and not like you ;)

Ha...ha...

Yes, me too :p
Or a combination...
In fact, genetically mixed children (I mean... from totally different gene pools) are usually very pretty and very healthy... :)

In fact, genetically mixed children (I mean... from totally different gene pools) are usually very pretty and very healthy
You have to say that becase you yourself are quite ugly if not mixed.
Here’s one destroying your theory, ‘member him (http://www.geocities.com/j33photos/photos/jaye_davidson_the_crying_game_8.jpg)?

Do you (http://www.geocities.com/j33photos/photos/jaye_davidson_the_crying_game_3.jpg)?
Add: Derek Jeter.Gregory Hines. Cree Summer.
Those ugly halflings at the library.
They’re all mixed.

That said, I don’t believe you but at least you got what you wanted. Everyone’s bit by posting. Even me
“Pardon? Doesn’t pregnancy require sperm?”

STOP BREEDING.

Gendy stinky girl!!! How I missed you!!!

Children get most of their intelligence from their mother. How smart is the girl who decided to breed with Truthie the whiner? Not too smart. /sigh.

gendy, you wanna lay into the kid and call him ugly like some spotty sex starved lesbo then go ahead, but please dont spout your halfbaked nonsensical racial anthropology crap.

Stick to being just a bitch, not a stupid bitch who doesn't have a clue about "races" and "mixed" and tries to blag it on an internet forum.

FYI, pea sized is about 12 weeks along.

xev:

Oh wait, I am a cynical bitch.

jesus christ red, you still hanging around this place like the the foul stench of anal debris?

You have to say that becase you yourself are quite ugly if not mixed.
OMG, you are so jealous of my beauty :D

Here’s one destroying your theory, ‘member him (http://www.geocities.com/j33photos/photos/jaye_davidson_the_crying_game_8.jpg)?

Do you (http://www.geocities.com/j33photos/photos/jaye_davidson_the_crying_game_3.jpg)?
Add: Derek Jeter.Gregory Hines. Cree Summer.
Those ugly halflings at the library.
They’re all mixed.
You don't understand genetics.

STOP BREEDING.
STOP BEING STUPID.

Children get most of their intelligence from their mother. How smart is the girl who decided to breed with Truthie the whiner? Not too smart. /sigh.
Her IQ is 142.

FYI, pea sized is about 12 weeks along.
Normally. But our baby is growing very fast. It is caused by three things:
1) We are young
2) The baby is genetically healthy
3) It runs in her family

Gendy stinky girl!!!
Wolfy!! stupid girl...the internet is odorless!!


Outlandish:
gendy, you wanna lay into the kid and call him ugly like some spotty sex starved lesbo then go ahead, but please dont spout your halfbaked nonsensical racial anthropology crap.

Stick to being just a bitch, not a stupid bitch who doesn't have a clue about "races" and "mixed" and tries to blag it on an internet forum.
Were my comments genetic or aesthetic?

You mix a black and a Jew and you get that nightmare from "The Crying Game"
That man is an odd looking, emaciated ectomorph.

And you equate this with saying that all blacks and Jews give birth to fucked hybrids?
Who, then, is the 'stupid bitch' who does not have a clue about "race" and "mixed"?

Millhouse:
OMG, you are so jealous of my beauty
I know.
Half Pakistani half lemur genes with long, bobbed hair get me angry.

Really, that's going to be one horrid baby.

Imagine a small version of the
thing (http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=43745&password=&sort=1&size=medium&cat=500&page=) on the left in your womb.

Now, imagine a small hybrid of both that thing on the left and the thing on the right in the gene pool.

Imagine a small version of the
thing on the left in your womb.

I'm going to have Clive Barker dreams, you bitch.

Normally. But our baby is growing very fast. It is caused by three things:
1) We are young
2) The baby is genetically healthy
3) It runs in her family

Three cheers for ignorence of biology.

esus christ red, you still hanging around this place like the the foul stench of anal debris?

I'm very hurt to be insulted by a internet-thing that thinks it is "Kyser Soze"
Yay linguistic ignorence.

Congratulations TS...thought of any names yet?

Know the gender? care to?

My coworker is pregnant...she wants to leave her baby's gender a surprise untill birth.

Xev,

You know. The thought that he's lying about the whole thing has crossed my mind from time to time.


Outlandish,

Where in Gendanken's examples of ugly half-breeds did you see a racist diatribe against all race mixing?

However, perhaps she'll now expound on the subject. Since you brought it up and all...


Truthseeker,

In fact, genetically mixed children (I mean... from totally different gene pools) are usually very pretty and very healthy...

You're just saying that because your family has been inbreeding for so long that a little hybrid vigor seems to be a miracle.

What's funny is that your squeeze is probably impregnated by her family so that the fantasy of hybrid vigor will be just that. Fantasy.

Muahahahaahahaha!!

Seriously, dude. If you're not lying. I bet she is. She probably figures that hooking up with you will be her best chance at getting welfare or something...

TruthSeeker,

I'm not trying to insult you. I am slapping you across the head like any good friend would. You have thrown your life away in haste and expect congratulations!

First, speaking multiple languages doesn't give anyone edge. Brooms do not speak latin.

Second, when I talk about life experiences, I don't mean the unfortunate variety that you are so well aquainted with. I'm talking about trekking through the andes or getting laid. Is it true that the girl in the picture is the only girl you have only ever ..'done'?

If so, you can probably add that to your list of lifes unfortunate experiences. I'm afraid it's too late to run away. Your seatbelt is fastened tightly for the next 18+ years and you're only allowed to urinate where you sit.

Have fun!! :cool:

Why is it that when I read the title of this post and saw who posted it, the first thing that came to mind was 'be afraid.. be very afraid'.. ?


TS.. err congratulations. Although being 2 months from my due date (thank frikkin christ) all I can say to you is run. RUN!! RRRRUUUNNNNN!!

Wait.. What am I saying this to you for? You're not the one who's having the baby...

To the mother... RUN.. RRRRUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!!

I hope you have quite a bit of $$ saved up TS. If you don't, start saving now. I'm not saying this to be mean or sarcastic. I'm saying it as someone who's currently there. Believe me, pregnancy is very expensive and it will be worse once junior arrives.

Hey. Something has been deleted here!
But it won't help.
TruthSeekr, you know what I think of you. And that ... erm.... thing next to you.

Being a nurse in a ob/gyn clinic... I can tell you that NO babies grow at a faster rate than others until the last trimester. If it's pea sized, she is 12+ weeks along, and it isn't yours. No "family history" can change the rate of growth of a baby in the first two trimesters. She's pulling one over on you. I talk to a lot of pregnant girls, and it's almost always the same story, they get pregnant to trap you. In a lot of cases, they are already pregnant with someones elses child and hop into bed with the first guy they can and then claim he's the father. I can bet you dollars to donuts it's not yours. And before you get your name stamped on the birth certificate and get roped in for life, you better start asking her some serious questions. And... my suggestion is for you to go to her next doctors appointment and ask him questions. I think she's just lying to you because you look like a sucker she can take advantage of.

I don't know you, but you seem very naive and innocent. Don't let yourself get screwed over. It's not worth the next 18-22 years of your life. Seriously.

im thinking i might have to agree with you. i dont want to, but i do

BTW does your name mean childish or harp child or what?

Being a nurse in a ob/gyn clinic... I can tell you that NO babies grow at a faster rate than others until the last trimester. If it's pea sized, she is 12+ weeks along, and it isn't yours. No "family history" can change the rate of growth of a baby in the first two trimesters. She's pulling one over on you. I talk to a lot of pregnant girls, and it's almost always the same story, they get pregnant to trap you. In a lot of cases, they are already pregnant with someones elses child and hop into bed with the first guy they can and then claim he's the father. I can bet you dollars to donuts it's not yours. And before you get your name stamped on the birth certificate and get roped in for life, you better start asking her some serious questions. And... my suggestion is for you to go to her next doctors appointment and ask him questions. I think she's just lying to you because you look like a sucker she can take advantage of.

I don't know you, but you seem very naive and innocent. Don't let yourself get screwed over. It's not worth the next 18-22 years of your life. Seriously.


But what if the father loves the wife even though she might have slept around? He still can love the child thinking that it is his and give it all the things the child would want from a loving father. Just because the woman screws up doesn't mean the husband can't be a good father.

vslayer-

Kotoko is a character from an anime I enjoy. I am not sure what it means, but I love the character.

cosmictraveler-

That would be fine, if she was honest with him from the start about the fact that she had slept around, and that it wasn't his child. I fully agree that a father can love a child that isn't his, as if it were his own and I even encourage that. But loving a child based on lies and deceit can end up hurting both the father and the child if it is ever found out, it can be very devastating. Also, she could walk off with the child and because the child does not have his DNA, it could be the last time he ever sees the child.

But, he should know the truth and not be deceived or the entire relationship begins with a lie. That's not a good way to live for anyone. It can have very bad effects. If he wants to forgive her and love her anyway, that is one thing... but if he's loving her based on deception, then it's not right for him.

no, but if its mother cannot stay with him, then that may be very hard

It occurs to me that someone with the monniker Truth Seeker, you would think that it would imply that the truth is important. I urge you to find that truth.

gendy:

Were my comments genetic or aesthetic?
both.

You mix a black and a Jew and you get that nightmare from "The Crying Game"
That man is an odd looking, emaciated ectomorph.
moron.
THE most elimentary mistake, equating "judaism" with race. The jews aint a race mata hari.
What, Mizrahi jews, iraqi jews, yemeni jews, ashekanahi jews, sephardim jews, black falasha jews, ethopian jews are ALL one race?


And you equate this with saying that all blacks and Jews give birth to fucked hybrids?
I didn't equate anything.
you're the one putting 2 and 2 to get god knows what.


Who, then, is the 'stupid bitch' who does not have a clue about "race" and "mixed"?
you.

invert shitless:

Outlandish,

Where in Gendanken's examples of ugly half-breeds did you see a racist diatribe against all race mixing?

However, perhaps she'll now expound on the subject. Since you brought it up and all...

can you get any further up her ass??

"maybe she'll expound on the subject"

LOL.
moron.

hey truthie !!!

congratulations , with ur reply to each and everyone ova here in this thread , tryin to shut them up , put ur case above all !!

i am sure , you ll be a great dad , juss chill n have fun ...

good luck to you , its not gonna be easy , u d learn the trick !!

I know.
Half Pakistani half lemur genes with long, bobbed hair get me angry.
Than don't look at the mirror!!!!!

Really, that's going to be one horrid baby.
Send me your baby pictures, please. I wanna see how horrid you turned out.

Three cheers for ignorence of biology.
Well, I'm sure you know a lot about biology.... :rolleyes:

Congratulations TS...thought of any names yet?
Yes :)

Aurora if it is a girl. Just like the princess of sleeping beauty. Aurora means "dawn" in my language.

Angelo if it is a boy. It is also a name used in my language.

They are both relatively rare tough. And we put more thought into the girl's name because we both always wanted a girl (we both always wanted a girl named Aurora. It's weird.... :eek: )

Know the gender? care to?
We don't know yet. My wife has been practically obcessed to find out. But we can't find out anyways. So she finally just accepted that fact.

My coworker is pregnant...she wants to leave her baby's gender a surprise untill birth.
We don't. We are very curious to know...
It makes a huge difference on parenting styles...

You're just saying that because your family has been inbreeding for so long that a little hybrid vigor seems to be a miracle.
invert: Oh! Look at me! I'm the little asshole from lollipop land! Uhhhhhh!
TruthSeeker: Yes, huh..... anyways....

If you are going to insult me, please study some genetics first. Thank you.

What's funny is that your squeeze is probably impregnated by her family so that the fantasy of hybrid vigor will be just that. Fantasy.
That doesn't even make sense. What a loser!
If you want to insult me, at least try to do a reasonable job.

Muahahahaahahaha!!
OMG! I'm soooooo afraid.

Seriously, dude. If you're not lying. I bet she is. She probably figures that hooking up with you will be her best chance at getting welfare or something...
She can't get welfare when she is sponsoring me to immigrate here.

This is fun....

I'm not trying to insult you. I am slapping you across the head like any good friend would. You have thrown your life away in haste and expect congratulations!
I know you are not trying to insult me. :)
I haven't thrown my life away. We always wanted that and we now finally have that. Besides, having a kid will rush the government...

First, speaking multiple languages doesn't give anyone edge. Brooms do not speak latin.
Yeah, sure. But that is just a sample of what my brain is capable of handling.

Second, when I talk about life experiences, I don't mean the unfortunate variety that you are so well aquainted with. I'm talking about trekking through the andes or getting laid.
Well, what is the difference, really?

Is it true that the girl in the picture is the only girl you have only ever ..'done'?
Well, yeah.... :o

If so, you can probably add that to your list of lifes unfortunate experiences. I'm afraid it's too late to run away. Your seatbelt is fastened tightly for the next 18+ years and you're only allowed to urinate where you sit.
Well, at least the pilot is a very wise and all-powerful being....

Have fun!!
:D

Why is it that when I read the title of this post and saw who posted it, the first thing that came to mind was 'be afraid.. be very afraid'.. ?
:D

TS.. err congratulations. Although being 2 months from my due date (thank frikkin christ) all I can say to you is run. RUN!! RRRRUUUNNNNN!!

Wait.. What am I saying this to you for? You're not the one who's having the baby...

To the mother... RUN.. RRRRUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!!
:D

Congrats! I hope you have been walking! Well, you still have time to become more flexible.... :D

I hope you have quite a bit of $$ saved up TS. If you don't, start saving now.
Well, yeah, of course I have some savings.
I have my assets too...

- A grand piano, which is worth around US$100,000 (but I can only sell it for around CAN$15,000 because almost nobody in my country has US$100,000 to spend in a piano). That was an investment that I made in 1998... Thanks God my money is valorizing...
- An apartment that I can either rent or sell for some CAN$30,000
- A CAN$4,000 per month source under my sleeve (if I work or fight for it- hopefully I won't need to fight for it)
- Child credit (around CAN$250 per month)

I'm always prepared. I never just DO something....

I'm not saying this to be mean or sarcastic.
I know.

I'm saying it as someone who's currently there. Believe me, pregnancy is very expensive and it will be worse once junior arrives.
Yes, I know. Plus I've been only buying really high quality food. I'm avoiding foods with pesticides and transgenics as much as I can....

Being a nurse in a ob/gyn clinic... I can tell you that NO babies grow at a faster rate than others until the last trimester.
That's not what the doctor said.

If it's pea sized, she is 12+ weeks along, and it isn't yours.
Really? That's not what is said here:
http://www.babycenter.com/mybabycenter/107.html
"Now almost half an inch long — roughly the size of a raspberry — he has elbow joints and distinct, slightly webbed fingers and toes."

Raspberries and peas are similar in size.
(I can already see me telling my kid that when she was in her mother's womb, I was discussing her size in the internet and that I compared her to a pea and a reaspberry.... :D )

Not only that, but she hasn't missed her period 2 months ago. Not only that but we looked in the last ultrasound and there was no umbilical cord. If she was that far along, she would have had an umbilical cord already. Not only that, but it doesn't really matter when you have sex during the moth you get pregnant- it always counts from the last period. Not only that, but she only started getting signs of pregnancy since about 3 weeks ago (and she only started getting sick in our wedding night, on July 8th- DOH! Tough luck! :D) Not only that...........

No "family history" can change the rate of growth of a baby in the first two trimesters.
Different babies grow in different rates. That's why some women get more morning sickness than others, for example.

She's pulling one over on you.
No, she is not.

I talk to a lot of pregnant girls, and it's almost always the same story, they get pregnant to trap you.
Yes, a lot do. But they usually do that to naive and simple guys. I've been reading about pregnancy like a madman. I even know conditions that can happen later, during the pregnancy. I know all the precautions, a lot of the nutrition factors, a lot of the diseases and how to prevent them... She can't possibly trick me.

In a lot of cases, they are already pregnant with someones elses child and hop into bed with the first guy they can and then claim he's the father.
Yes, they do. But it is impossible to trick someone if you are already 12 weeks pregnant. I mean, for God's sake- the girl would be showing already! Not only that, she would get much bigger too soon.

I can bet you dollars to donuts it's not yours.
I would love to have $200,000. Do you wanna bet that?

And... my suggestion is for you to go to her next doctors appointment and ask him questions.
I've gone to all 5 appointments that she has had and I asked questions in all of them.

I think she's just lying to you because you look like a sucker she can take advantage of.
Why would she do that? As far as she knows, I only have enough to feed her!

I don't know you, but you seem very naive and innocent.
Yes, you don't know me. But you are right- I seem naive and innocent. But I just do that to trick people- and if I want I can actually manipulate any situation into what I want- tough I don't use this skill. This is part of my shadow. Only my persona is naive and innocent. My ego is actually quite good though, which is why I don't normally use some of the skills that I have- unless I'm forced too.This is just how I manage my complex personality...

Don't let yourself get screwed over. It's not worth the next 18-22 years of your life. Seriously.
I won't.

congratulations , with ur reply to each and everyone ova here in this thread , tryin to shut them up , put ur case above all !!

i am sure , you ll be a great dad , juss chill n have fun ...

good luck to you , its not gonna be easy , u d learn the trick !!
Thanks :)

This might be the most disturbing news I have read since I saw the article about Steven Seagal putting out a pop album.

I've heard of pity sex, but a pity pregnancy is a bit over the top.

I feel like I need a shower now... :(

Babies do NOT grow at different rates until the last trimester. A woman's body has different reactions to the hormones, and THAT is what causes them to have morning sickness, not the size of the baby. An ultrasound can measure the exact gestational stage of the fetus with a 5-7 day accuracy because there is no differences in size at that stage.

Your ego is evident. Whether or not it's warranted due to the current circumstance is up for debate, however.

Having a child you can't afford, is stupid and naive. That's without question.

I applaud you for not getting an abortion, but I think your an idiot for not using protection before you are ready to raise a child.
You are still a child yourself, as is your wife.
A child who just screwed up his life because of his penis.
Congrats.

Babies do NOT grow at different rates until the last trimester. A woman's body has different reactions to the hormones, and THAT is what causes them to have morning sickness, not the size of the baby. An ultrasound can measure the exact gestational stage of the fetus with a 5-7 day accuracy because there is no differences in size at that stage.
Maybe that's why the doctor confirmed that she was in her 6th week... :rolleyes:

Your ego is evident. Whether or not it's warranted due to the current circumstance is up for debate, however.

Having a child you can't afford, is stupid and naive. That's without question.

I applaud you for not getting an abortion, but I think your an idiot for not using protection before you are ready to raise a child.
You are still a child yourself, as is your wife.
A child who just screwed up his life because of his penis.
Congrats.
In other words: I proved you wrong therefore you need to desperately try to put me down. Oh wow, great! :rolleyes:

Btw, that was a planned pregnancy.

Some people in this website are just pathetic...

Kotoko

That would be fine, if she was honest with him from the start about the fact that she had slept around, and that it wasn't his child. I fully agree that a father can love a child that isn't his, as if it were his own and I even encourage that. But loving a child based on lies and deceit can end up hurting both the father and the child if it is ever found out, it can be very devastating. Also, she could walk off with the child and because the child does not have his DNA, it could be the last time he ever sees the child.

But, he should know the truth and not be deceived or the entire relationship begins with a lie. That's not a good way to live for anyone. It can have very bad effects. If he wants to forgive her and love her anyway, that is one thing... but if he's loving her based on deception, then it's not right for him.
I think it might be an even finer idea if you (and others questioning the patronage of the baby) could just mind your own business.

You are correct in that no person should ever be deceived in regards to their children's parentage. While YOU might think he should know the truth in regards to whether the child carries his DNA or not, YOU do not know their sexual history. If TS is happy with the thought that this baby is his and has no doubt about it, what concern is it of yours or anybody elses? Who are YOU to tell him that it's not his child? Were you in bed with them each time they had sex with a little chart? Do you know this girl's ovulation cycle? Were you in there when she supposedly bedded another male? I'm guessing the answer to those questions is no. Therefore, maybe you should just step back and stop making yourself sound like a vindictive bitch. If TS has any doubts about the parentage of this child, I'm sure he's well capable of demanding a DNA test to rectify this situation when the time and need arises.

As to the size of the child... you are correct again, if the embryo itself is pea-size it is more than 12 weeks gestation wise. But if the amniotic sac itself is pea size, that could indicate that it's less than 12 weeks. I remember going for my 6 week ultrasound the day I found out I was pregnant and being told that "it" as in the amniotic sac was around the size of a pea. At that point in time there was no sign of the child within the sac as it was too small to be picked up and while some scans do show the cells within the sac at 6 weeks, not all do and as most women know, that 5-7 day accuracy can mean the world of difference during the early stage in regards to actually being able to see it in the scan. Because within 1 week of that scan, we could see a definite smudge within the sac.

Being a nurse in a ob/gyn clinic... I can tell you that NO babies grow at a faster rate than others until the last trimester.
Heh! And being 30 weeks pregnant, I can still hear the midwife at the clinic I go to tell me that according to her calculations, my due date was way off and that I was in fact due one month later. This was of course stated with complete disregard to all the ultrasound results, doctors and obstetrician calculations. She even went so far as to accuse me of not knowing how to count in regards to my cycle and telling me that I was not feeling my baby kick because again by her calculations, I was in fact one month behind in my pregnancy. Apparently I was delusional and imagining the kicking. She even told me that the complications I was going through were not real and that I should not be feeling or getting as sick as I was when I was. Again this was in complete contrast to all the tests, the MRI, scans, and specialist consultations I had in fact suffered through as a result of these complications which showed that not only did the complications exist, but that they were in fact worse than originally thought. But as far as she was concerned, those complications just should not exist. She has since been dismissed due to her telling couples that they did not fall pregnant when they did... resulting in quite a few instances where the father was accusing the mother of sleeping around behind his back. Again, while babies do not grow at a faster rate when compared to others, it is not for YOU to tell any individual that they are not the father of the child... especially when you have no idea of their sexual history or of the girl's ovulation cycle.

Having a child you can't afford, is stupid and naive. That's without question.
True. But again, why are you taking it upon yourself to tell them they can't afford it? Many people can't afford to have children yet still manage all the same and the result is a child that respects money and what it means to not have everything they might wish for and having to work for one's desire's in life.

I applaud you for not getting an abortion, but I think your an idiot for not using protection before you are ready to raise a child.
You are still a child yourself, as is your wife.
A child who just screwed up his life because of his penis.
Congrats.
He has stated that they wanted to have a child, so what makes you think that he is not ready to have or raise a child? Hell I am not ready to raise a child and I'm much older than TS. I don't know of any individual who is actually ready to raise a child when they first discover that they are going to have one, even after much planning and consideration. I know I sure as hell wasn't. While they may be young, they will learn like all others of all ages in their situation.

I will admit I've rarely seen eye to eye with TS, but if he's happy to be a parent, why are you telling him that he should not be and that it's not his child? From where I'm sitting, that just makes you seem a bit sad and frankly I must question what the hell kind of advice you're giving to the patients who come through the clinic where you happen to work.

TruthSeeker

Congrats! I hope you have been walking! Well, you still have time to become more flexible....
My comment was not made in regards to exercise TS.

And by the time you get to 30 weeks, few women can "walk". It's more a waddle which does get worse as time goes on, especially when she starts to get extra boosts of relaxin which can make walking very painful.

Different babies grow in different rates. That's why some women get more morning sickness than others, for example.
No. Different babies do not grow at different rates. They may appear smaller during the first trimester because the calculation as to her due date might be a bit off. But if you compare different women who have fallen pregnant and their blastocysts have implanted into the uterus at exactly the same time, the size and development of the embryo will be exactly the same unless there is a problem with the embryo itself.

As to the size of the child affecting morning sickness. Again no. Morning sickness occurs because of the woman's intolerance to the amounts of hormones flooding her body during the pregnancy. Some women have more tolerance than others.

Bells,

YOU do not know their sexual history.

Yeah we do.
He told everybody.
He's been with her about a month. A little more, I think.

Anyway. Who cares if it's his baby or not?
Nobody.
We just like tormenting the little blighter because of that victim sign he's got painted on his forehead.

As to him determining the parentage of the baby.
I'm imagining a movie called Me, Myself, and Irene. Have you seen it?
But, in Truthseeker's case, it would be lily-white kids instead of black kids....

I wonder if she's got a midget fetish?


I say we petition our congressman to legalize 50th trimester abortions and do everyone a favor by aborting good old TS there.
I don't think that life actually starts until 30.
Some people say birth. Or 5. Or 10. But I think 30 is the limit.

Yeah we do.
He told everybody.
He's been with her about a month. A little more, I think.

Nasty... :eek:

TS.. DO NOT.. I repeat.. DO NOT.. divulge your sexual activities in forums. The result of your having done so has now given people the incentive to look up their calendars and work out your girlfriend's cycle.. Does she know you have given intimate details of your sex lives on a public forum? Another reason not to is because some of us don't wish to hear about it.

Anyway. Who cares if it's his baby or not?
Nobody.
We just like tormenting the little blighter because of that victim sign he's got painted on his forehead.
That's the thing, I can't understand why some would care so much about whether he is the father or not.

And if you want to torment him, just tell him what the next 2 trimesters are going to bring (pure hell)... not to mention once the baby arrives. Believe me, he won't be so cocky then. He's under the delusion that because he's read all about pregnancy, he knows everything that can and can't happen. HAH I say! :)

As to him determining the parentage of the baby.
I'm imagining a movie called Me, Myself, and Irene. Have you seen it?
But, in Truthseeker's case, it would be lily-white kids instead of black kids....
Yes I have seen it. And I don't particularly care whether he establishes parentage or not. I'm more concerned with the fact that he's going to have access to a virgin brain and have the power to mould it into an image of his own through his teachings and philosophy (or lack thereof)... as I stated before.. be afraid.. be very afraid..

I say we petition our congressman to legalize 50th trimester abortions and do everyone a favor by aborting good old TS there.
Ah but it would be his mother who would have to decide to abort him. For us to have a say, that would mean that we'd have to lobby the politicians to legalise the use of hitmen.

I don't think that life actually starts until 30.
Heh... true.. I must admit.. I loved being 30. You've reached that hill and you've supposedly left all the bad choices and decisions behind. Then you reach 31 and realise that it's all downhill from there and you find yourself on the fast train to middle age. Especially when the teenagers working at the checkout in the stores start calling you "Ma'am" and "Sir".. shudders...

TruthSeeker,


There is one thing I ask you: Do not call yourself a "dad", neither is your wife the "mom" of your child.

You are a FATHER, and she is a MOTHER.

This is serious.

Bells,

Truth Seeker divulged all the information I was questioning him on. It was volunteered information, and it did not make logical sense. That's what I was questioning. Including him admitting that he cannot afford to raise a child, and had not completed his education, nor had she.

I didn't know that hormones can make someone self-righteous... is that in the pregnancy books? I mean, you are the expert and everything.

Water,

Why is this:
You are a FATHER, and she is a MOTHER.
serious?

Water,

Why is this:

serious?

It is.
You'll know it when your time comes.

Bells,

Truth Seeker divulged all the information I was questioning him on. It was volunteered information, and it did not make logical sense. That's what I was questioning. Including him admitting that he cannot afford to raise a child, and had not completed his education, nor had she.


And yet from what I've read in this forum, he claims that he is able to afford to have this child and as for his not having completed his education... what does that have to do with raising a child? I was not aware that one needed a university degree to raise a child.

As for his having divulged the information in regards to his relationship, as disturbing as that in itself is.. what I find more disturbing is that you sat there and calculated exactly when the mother to be would have fallen pregnant. While you may be a nurse, do you actually have so little to do in life that you spend your time in forums doing the calculations for other women's cycles based on what their partners have said? And you were not questioning. You were stating as fact that the child is not his.

I didn't know that hormones can make someone self-righteous... is that in the pregnancy books? I mean, you are the expert and everything.
I'm an expert?... Have I actually made that claim? I've scanned through the posts in this forum and find such a claim on my behalf lacking. I was merely pointing out that whether this child is his or not is actually none of your business, nor is it any one else's. If he's happy to say that it is, what does your being a nurse have to do with blissfully telling him that it's not his? I mean why do you even care? Do you have a stake in his relationship?

What would you have him do? Confront the girl and demand a DNA test because of what some stranger said to him on a forum? Should he demand that she have an abortion because you have said that by your calculations, this child is not his? Oh wait, that's right, you are glad that they aren't having an abortion. So what would you have him do? Leave her until the DNA results come back? Or maybe he should just leave her until he gets a better education and raise some more cash so that he can meet your specifications of when he can afford to have a child. Again abortion is out because you've already told him that you're glad that they aren't having one. So what should he do? And you accuse me of being self-righteous?

I will readily admit, my pregnancy hormones have made me a bitch. So what's your excuse?

I spent 5 minutes tops figuring it out... while you wasted at least 30 being self-righteous and condescending. Hmm. You jump to conclusions, make wildly ignorant accusations without knowing the facts presented and then expect us to kiss your ass. We wouldn't be able to miss it, I'm sure... but no thanks.

I don't think that you have the right to insinuate that I am being the bitch. I simply told the kid to ask questions. I have no stake in it, but if he wants to share it with an internet forum, he should be prepared for people to respond. I don't even know him and have never interacted with him before outside of his two posts. Nor you for that matter, and you feel you have the right to judge me and act like a raging bitch towards me.

I pity your husband. I hope you apologize to him a lot.

P.S. Not all women turn into raging cunts when they are pregnant, only the ones would already had it in them and need an excuse.

I spent 5 minutes tops figuring it out... while you wasted at least 30 being self-righteous and condescending. Hmm.
Hmmm indeed. The fact that you actually sat there for 5 minutes figuring "it" out is sad. As for my taking 30 minutes to point out to you that it's none of your business? I'm a fast typer and believe me it took me only a couple of minutes.

So I'm being self-righteous and condescending?.... Lets see now... Was I the one sitting there working out the ovulation cycle of a woman I've never seen nor met all because her silly young partner was stupid enough to say when they had sex on an internet forum? No. Was I then the one to actually come out and say to this young idiot that not only is he too young to have a child but he is stupid for doing so now because he has not completed his education? Nope. Did I even go so far as to tell him that he is not the father when I have no idea whether that is the case or not and that she's pulling a fast one on him? No. It was you who did that my dear, not me. And you call me self-righterious and condescending?

You jump to conclusions, make wildly ignorant accusations without knowing the facts presented and then expect us to kiss your ass.
Have I jumped to conclusions and made wildly ignorant accusations without knowing the facts? Again, I was not the one sitting there telling some poor kid on the internet that he was not the father of a child because you've been counting. If THAT is not a huge jump to conclusions and a frankly stupidly ignorant accusaion, I don't know what is. Again, you do not know the exact time and date that they had sex. He may have mentioned a few times but not all. As a nurse in the field, you should know better than to make such claims when you've never spoken to the girl, let alone seen the scan results for yourself, nor have you seen her medical records as such.

We wouldn't be able to miss it, I'm sure... but no thanks.
Would you like me to give you the measurements so that you can then sit there for 5 minutes figuring it out? After all, you seem to like that kind of thing.

I don't think that you have the right to insinuate that I am being the bitch.
Who said I was insinuating?

simply told the kid to ask questions.
First you were questioning it and now you say that he should ask questions... Hmmm.. Look Kotoko, he seems quite happy to say the child is his. He seems to have calculated it for himself and he's happy to claim the child as his own. You didn't tell him to ask questions. You blankly came out and told him that the child was not his and could not be his and he was an idiot for thinking it that it was. You then told him that he could not afford to have the child and that he should not be having a child now and he should be looking at his education instead... even after he has claimed that the pregnancy was planned. That's not suggesting to someone that they ask questions. He told you that he knows the child is his and your reply is that it's not. Why are you raining down on his parade. If the child is his, would you prefer that he continue to look at it with suspicion and at her with distrust and possibly hate? If he was silly enough to listen to you, a complete stranger on an internet forum, and he confronted the girl and she dumps him for not trusting her and it is his child... What would you say to him then? Oopsy?

I have no stake in it, but if he wants to share it with an internet forum, he should be prepared for people to respond.
Yes he was a fool to come out and give details of his sex life. But you did not merely respond. You sat there and tried to work out whether he was the father based on his little rantings, pantings and gloating. Even when he told you that he wants this child and he knows it's his, you keep saying no he should not want this child because he's too young, does not have enough money, it's not his because it can't be his, etc. Is it that hard for you to say if you're happy then congratulations and good luck to you? As a nurse in the field, are you that lacking in consideration? Instead of offering him some advice of what to expect during the pregnancy you come out and keep chortling that the child is not his. There's nothing to be gained in that. He's happy to think that it is, then let him. This is a stressful time for any couple or individual going through this. Teasing and making fun is one thing, but there's a line that signifies the end of making fun of someone and just being downright cruel. Sure he may be an idiot and a young fool for whatever reason, but being someone who I'm guessing is a lot older and more experienced, you should know better.

I don't even know him and have never interacted with him before outside of his two posts. Nor you for that matter, and you feel you have the right to judge me and act like a raging bitch towards me.
But that's exactly my point. You don't know him and I'm guessing you don't know the girl. You only have what he's claimed in these two posts and you use that to form the basis that the child is not his? You have had no qualms in drawing such conclusions from reading two posts and making such allegations and accusations to him about his becoming a parent, yet you complain when I point out to you that you should not be saying such things based on reading those two posts because you should know better. And I'm a bitch to everyone. Ask anyone in this forum.

I pity your husband. I hope you apologize to him a lot.
I'm married? Have I said anywhere that I'm married?

P.S. Not all women turn into raging cunts when they are pregnant, only the ones would already had it in them and need an excuse.
Nice. You're a real charmer aren't you? Tell me, do they teach you to be that crass in nursing school? Or was that a special elective? But then again, it's possible that you are just that way. But to answer your question, I've always been a bitch. The pregnancy hormones have just made me a tad more so. I don't think I've gone so far as to being a "raging c*nt" (I do hate that word... it's just so common and low). I guess you could say that I might be working my way up to being one.. I wouldn't know. You tell me when I'm getting close though. After all, you seem to know so much about being one already... ;)

My comment was not made in regards to exercise TS.
I know that. I was just commenting on the fact that walking helps streching the birth canal...

And by the time you get to 30 weeks, few women can "walk". It's more a waddle which does get worse as time goes on, especially when she starts to get extra boosts of relaxin which can make walking very painful.
Sounds bad. I hope it is not worse than the first trimester....

But if you compare different women who have fallen pregnant and their blastocysts have implanted into the uterus at exactly the same time, the size and development of the embryo will be exactly the same unless there is a problem with the embryo itself.
But the pregnancy is still counted from the first day of the missed period, right?

As to the size of the child affecting morning sickness. Again no. Morning sickness occurs because of the woman's intolerance to the amounts of hormones flooding her body during the pregnancy. Some women have more tolerance than others.
I thought it was linked to some protein deficiency as well. A friend of mine that is also pregnant told me that she feels much better if she has protein in the morning... Is there a connection?

Yeah we do.
He told everybody.
No, you don't. You don't know a tenth of what is going on here...

He's been with her about a month. A little more, I think.
Way more than that.

TS.. DO NOT.. I repeat.. DO NOT.. divulge your sexual activities in forums.
Of course not! That is retarded! Unless I play a trick in everyone.... :D

The result of your having done so has now given people the incentive to look up their calendars and work out your girlfriend's cycle.. Does she know you have given intimate details of your sex lives on a public forum?
Well, I have not done so. All that I said is that she is pregnant and I'm going to be a dad! And of course, I told everyone how far along she is. Everyone asks that. People do that all the time , cause they are happy! :)

That's the thing, I can't understand why some would care so much about whether he is the father or not.
Well... it's quite an experience, ya know?

And if you want to torment him, just tell him what the next 2 trimesters are going to bring (pure hell)... not to mention once the baby arrives. Believe me, he won't be so cocky then. He's under the delusion that because he's read all about pregnancy, he knows everything that can and can't happen. HAH I say! :)
Huh? I thought the second trimester was the "honeymoon trimester". As for everything else- I know all that. The first trimester, I personally call the "nIgHtMaRe trimester". She is always moody, huge mood swings, etc....

Truth Seeker divulged all the information I was questioning him on. It was volunteered information, and it did not make logical sense. That's what I was questioning. Including him admitting that he cannot afford to raise a child, and had not completed his education, nor had she.
No, you don't understand- I CAN afford.

And yet from what I've read in this forum, he claims that he is able to afford to have this child and as for his not having completed his education... what does that have to do with raising a child? I was not aware that one needed a university degree to raise a child.
Huuuuuumm... maybe people SHOULD be taught parenting at school....

Cool, another retard for the world.

I guess when you have nothing else to be proud of being able to do what a simple cow and bull can or what bacteria accomplish daily, is an event worth mentioning.

Given its heritage I think we can safely assume that this new addition will manage to remain oblivious to all but the most superficial parts of reality, adopt whatever dogma it is served up with and accomplish the incredible task of flattering itself with notions of eternal grandeur and protect itself and its growing anxiety with ideas concerning omniscient beings and paradise lost.

Well I guess even a deucebag is necessary.
Who else is going to go off and kill and risk being killed so that I can have petroleum for my Jeep?
Thanks Truthseeker for replacing your juvenile stupidity with another who will certainly live up to his/her genetic history.

Then again, I just may be jealous and bitter.

And alone...

Amen!

I know that. I was just commenting on the fact that walking helps streching the birth canal...

Huh? The only thing that will stretch the birth canal is the child coming through the birth canal. Walking and exercise in general is believed to help the mother recover from the birth itself. I think it's more a belief that it's best to be fit for labour to help in the recovery process and I guess when one considers the strain that's put on the woman's body, exercise does make sense. Women are generally advised to keep mobile during their labour for more of a labour aid I guess, but walking as far as I know does not stretch the birth canal. Hell if it did, every pregnant woman out there would be power walking 24/7.

Sounds bad. I hope it is not worse than the first trimester....
TS, some women suffer from start to end of their pregnancy. I have one friend who had to be hospitalised constantly all through her pregnancy because she simply could not keep anything down. Another friend didn't have a single problem throughout her pregnancy. As for the waddle, as the child gets bigger, the pelvis has to accomodate so walking can become difficult. Some women have a big boost of relaxin at the start of their pregnancy which loosens the pelvic muscles making walking painful even from earlier on in the pregnancy. But not all pregnancy's are the same. Your other half my have a dream pregnancy or she may not. The thing that you must keep in mind is that you can't plan how well a pregnancy will go. You can't know for certain that she won't suffer from morning sickness all the way through for example. Each woman is different and each woman body deals with pregnancy a different way.

But the pregnancy is still counted from the first day of the missed period, right?
They did with mine. Actually with mine they counted from the day after the first day of the missed period.

I thought it was linked to some protein deficiency as well. A friend of mine that is also pregnant told me that she feels much better if she has protein in the morning... Is there a connection?
I wouldn't know actually. Protein in the morning helps some women and others not. It didn't help me. All that helped me was ginger ale. But from what my obstetrician and midwife told me and from what I've read, it depends on her tolerance to the pregnancy hormones. I had medium level of tolerance it seems lol... I wasn't always sick but I had other problems that kind of made morning sickness a lovely walk in the park I guess lol.. I'm sure if I'm wrong or my doctors were wrong, Kotoko will be quick to correct me. In all seriousness though, you should ask Kotoko. She/He has claimed that they're an ob/gyn nurse so she/he should have a better idea.

Of course not! That is retarded! Unless I play a trick in everyone....
That's just as retarded TS, if not more so.

Huh? I thought the second trimester was the "honeymoon trimester". As for everything else- I know all that. The first trimester, I personally call the "nIgHtMaRe trimester". She is always moody, huge mood swings, etc....
It is the honeymoon trimester for some women and not for others. As I said before, not every woman's pregnancy will be the same. Some will breeze through it and others will not. You can't know now what it's going to be like for her and you in the second trimester.

And if you think the moodiness is bad now.. just wait until later... :D

Huuuuuumm... maybe people SHOULD be taught parenting at school....
In a sense yes. But parenting is not something that can be read learned from just a book.

Another thing is..

I was flipping on the channels this morning(around 7), and they showed a woman giving birth. My god, it was disgusting! Think how loose she must be right now..

Does it bother you that your girlfriend will loose her figure after the pregnancy?

Adoption seem so much more attractive; skip the birth, skip the diapers, skip the terrible two's, and go straight to mind shaping. :m: I don't think they would give me a child though, its not like the SPCA where you can just walk in and pick the healthiest one.

Amen!
"Amen" to the fact that you are lonely? I don't get it.... :confused:

Huh? The only thing that will stretch the birth canal is the child coming through the birth canal.
Well, yeah, but massaging it and walking help making the skin more flexible. I've been reading about it. Do you want me to quote?

Walking and exercise in general is believed to help the mother recover from the birth itself.
Yes...

I think it's more a belief that it's best to be fit for labour to help in the recovery process and I guess when one considers the strain that's put on the woman's body, exercise does make sense.
That's true...

Women are generally advised to keep mobile during their labour for more of a labour aid I guess, but walking as far as I know does not stretch the birth canal.
Well, in the book I'm reading it says it does...

Hell if it did, every pregnant woman out there would be power walking 24/7.
Not really because, as you said, it is hard for them to walk during the last months...

TS, some women suffer from start to end of their pregnancy.
Yes. However, normally, they get better after the first trimester.

I have one friend who had to be hospitalised constantly all through her pregnancy because she simply could not keep anything down.
Yes, this is a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum (which means "excessive vomiting in pregnancy"). It is not common...

Another friend didn't have a single problem throughout her pregnancy.
That can happen too. Not very normal either...

As for the waddle, as the child gets bigger, the pelvis has to accomodate so walking can become difficult. Some women have a big boost of relaxin at the start of their pregnancy which loosens the pelvic muscles making walking painful even from earlier on in the pregnancy. But not all pregnancy's are the same. Your other half my have a dream pregnancy or she may not. The thing that you must keep in mind is that you can't plan how well a pregnancy will go. You can't know for certain that she won't suffer from morning sickness all the way through for example. Each woman is different and each woman body deals with pregnancy a different way.
Yeah, yeah.... I know all that (besides the fact that some women take relaxin since the beginning...)

They did with mine. Actually with mine they counted from the day after the first day of the missed period.
Well, that's weird. People only find out they are pregnant after 4 weeks of pregnancy, which is when they miss their period...

I wouldn't know actually. Protein in the morning helps some women and others not. It didn't help me. All that helped me was ginger ale.
Yeah... ginger ale as well...

But from what my obstetrician and midwife told me and from what I've read, it depends on her tolerance to the pregnancy hormones. I had medium level of tolerance it seems lol...
Well, I would guess girls that normally have more hormones normally have more problems. They also get sick with birth control pills...

I wasn't always sick but I had other problems that kind of made morning sickness a lovely walk in the park I guess lol.. I'm sure if I'm wrong or my doctors were wrong, Kotoko will be quick to correct me. In all seriousness though, you should ask Kotoko. She/He has claimed that they're an ob/gyn nurse so she/he should have a better idea.
I'm not sure I would trust he/she/it....

That's just as retarded TS, if not more so.
Well, whatever- it doesn't matter. Cause I never speak of my sex life here. When people ask I say it is none of their business, or I joke saying "what are you asking for: pictures and videos!?"

It is the honeymoon trimester for some women and not for others.
It is for a majority of women.

As I said before, not every woman's pregnancy will be the same. Some will breeze through it and others will not. You can't know now what it's going to be like for her and you in the second trimester.
Yes. However, the likelyhood is that it is going to be better.

And if you think the moodiness is bad now.. just wait until later... :D
Well, she has always been moody. This is like a HUGE PMS. Sometimes I feel like jumping down the balcony, LOL! :D

In a sense yes. But parenting is not something that can be read learned from just a book.
Absolutely. You have to actually do it. But, of course, learning and reading about it helps!

Another thing is..

I was flipping on the channels this morning(around 7), and they showed a woman giving birth. My god, it was disgusting! Think how loose she must be right now..

Does it bother you that your girlfriend will loose her figure after the pregnancy?
Well, no, but that will not necesasrily happen. If she keeps herself fit, don't overeat she won't lose her figure. As for strech marks, she can just use cocoa butter. Also, it is genetic and that doesn't run in her family at all.

Adoption seem so much more attractive; skip the birth, skip the diapers, skip the terrible two's, and go straight to mind shaping. :m: I don't think they would give me a child though, its not like the SPCA where you can just walk in and pick the healthiest one.
Well, I want to pass my genes. Seriously... think about it... ;)

Why do the rest of you care so much about his life? I mean it's a given he cares a lot about his life why do the rest of you show the same amount of effort?

Science still exists....yeah, shit it still going down in science which is worthy discussing.

Discussing people's lives is way more interesting. Just look at the success of "reality" TV, "desperate housewives", soap opera and other shit that people watch because they don't have any better way to waste their lives...

Why do the rest of you care so much about his life? I mean it's a given he cares a lot about his life why do the rest of you show the same amount of effort?

Science still exists....yeah, shit it still going down in science which is worthy discussing.

People always find people very fascinating. Because we're such social creatures, we find other people to be more important than just about anything. Individulasim and all that shit are lies made up by broken individuals who are lonely.

Science is pathetically political. The most novel and interesting and daring papers rarely get published because they challenge the establishment. Peer review is a dirty, dirty process, since the peers are people who spent a lifetime doing science one way and aren't exactly open to new ideas.

Don't believe what anyone tells you; science is no less political than anything else.

Attacking the pedestrian individual but not the scientist individual.
Please explain what you mean to me.

All I can Say is congrats :cool:

Does everything around here have to turn into a vagina monologue?
Geez.
We don't care about fetal growth rates or who is who's daddy and why and did she sleep around before Truthseeker and good luck to the charming couple, ad finum.

We'd just like to sit around and mock the half Chihuahua- half Hindu we call Truthseeker, like he wanted.
And pick on nurses too, by the way.

Like Kotoko.

See, I know you little nurses who spent thousands putting your pathetic little selves through community college just to spend the rest of your life wiping ass.
Doctors treat you all like waitresses, you can’t stand it.
Patient treat you all like a workhorse , you can’t stand it.
You don’t get paid nearly enough for the work any imbecile with a brain tumor could do in his seizure.
You call it a “profession.”
And, by god, paying thousands of dollars just to do what you do how can it NOT be a career? It cost so much money!
That’s why you’re all such obsessive little busybodies dictating on the smallest matters, you know, like bathroom gossip demanding so and so think it over with so and so because so and so’s ovulation cycle is not right and I’m not being nosy but its my place to say maybe you should tell Billy that Marlena’s baby is not his and..and….and….

Idiots.

I wrote of you once:

“Nurses are:

-The smiling idiots with the washcloth.
-Humble servants of the colon.
-Professional strokers of the bedridden ego.
-Medical pariahs.
-A revolution in the study of hygiene, urine, and the axilla.
-Refined sniffers of postpartum cowshit.
-Tiny Baron Munchausens.”


You’re all janitors with operating room privileges.
Now that, was cathartic. Here’s the part where you tell me how much money a registered nurse makes per shift.

Outlandish:
moron.
THE most elimentary mistake, equating "judaism" with race. The jews aint a race mata hari.
What, Mizrahi jews, iraqi jews, yemeni jews, ashekanahi jews, sephardim jews, black falasha jews, ethopian jews are ALL one race?


Come now, lets be friends.
I said.
And will say again.
That a jew and a black would have ugly babies. Where did I call Jews a race, brilliant one?

The jew, like the Muslim or the Christian or the Mormon, all belong to a group of peoples. Regardless of race. I can be all 4 at the same time.

You’re just being defensive because
1)I’m talkin’ bout mixed breeding (Truth and girl would have hybrids)
2) you so dearly want to show me what you know about Jews.

Well TruthSeeker, congratulations. I'm happy for you that you managed to find a bright spot in the world. As for all the criticisms you are getting, don't bother paying attention. Some may actually be concerned, but most are just trying to screw you up (some even admit it). Just make sure that when you're having the kid try the different vegetables to see if he/she is allergic to them (I assume they still do this, my mother did it to me) don't try carrots then sweet potatoes then squash. My mother turned me a nice shade of orange from all the beta caretin (is that the right spelling?). Anyway, congrats and good luck.

dig dig dig...

Gendanken has lost her edge.

Bells is busy telling everyone else not to do what she is already doing.

Wanderer is temp banned.

Tiassa is missing.

And no one cares.

Apathy is wonderful, ain't it?

Hmm.
And Kotoko proves to be someone else then.
Who can it be?
Who can it be?
This place is a fucking drama.
Fitting that it's a nurse.

Kotoko
Wanderer is temp banned.Wanderer is temporarily banned?!

I would suggest he be banned for life.

Such miserable, defeatist, psychologically fatigued minds should be pitied and banished from this realm of health and free-thinking.

Good riddance!!!!

Don’t even mention the name of such filth or it might call him to our presence.
The names of demons and cripples should never be uttered out loud.

gendy:

Come now, lets be friends.
I have enough friends.

I said.
And will say again.
That a jew and a black would have ugly babies. Where did I call Jews a race, brilliant one?
Are you naturally this thick, or do you practice regularly?
"uglyness" is equated to phenyotype hence has to be considered within the context of genetics. Being a "jew" is not related to physical/racial anthropology (despite what the euro-hebrew-israelite-wannabe jews want us to think) and is a matter of spiritual belief. Your moronic statement of:
"a jew and a black would have ugly babies" is based on the assumption that any so called "uglyness" would be as a result of the mixing of 2 factors X&Y, ie you clearly have come to the conclusion that being a "jew" has a tangible effect on the offsprings "aesthetic appearance" which is so moronic it beggars belief, so by that assumption a xtian & a black would pruduce ugly babies?? absolute craziness.

The jew, like the Muslim or the Christian or the Mormon, all belong to a group of peoples. Regardless of race. I can be all 4 at the same time.
this is just meaningless dribble when considerd just on it's own, but within the context of the above statement you made, you're contradicting yourself.


You’re just being defensive because
1)I’m talkin’ bout mixed breeding (Truth and girl would have hybrids)
2) .
don't confuse my calling your bluff and pointing out the inherent fallacy in a statement you made as "being defensive", if I see you type some bullshit and pass it off as "fact" I'm going to point it out, I aint yo' bitch like that shitkicker invert_dickless.

you so dearly want to show me what you know about Jews
I saw the darkness and merely lit a candle.

this is just meaningless dribble when considerd just on it's own, but within the context of the above statement you made, you're contradicting yourself.
This is just meaningless yapping coming from the boy who doesn't even know if girls have armpit hair. Moving on....

This is just meaningless yapping coming from the boy who doesn't even know if girls have armpit hair. Moving on....

:eek:

jesus christ! misunderstanding something I typed on-forum is one thing, but if you misunderstood something I said off-forum then bust my balls in pvt. :(

outlandish
don't confuse my calling your bluff and pointing out the inherent fallacy in a statement you made as "being defensive", if I see you type some bullshit and pass it off as "fact" I'm going to point it out, I aint yo' bitch like that shitkicker invert_dickless.My, my, my, what a brutish tongue you have stranger.
I like it.

But be weary the censorship police is about and he gains a particular hard-on from performing his duties.
It’s how the Forum is kept focused on more interesting, relevant subject matter…..like this one, for instance.

I wouldn’t say that the footman, you mention, is “dickless”, he just chooses to fold it under so as to make it appear like he has a vagina. Of course he allows his pea-sized testicles to dangle, as a means of defiance and a way of proving he’s got some.

Now back on-topic.
The interesting thing about life is that it is mostly appreciated by those that respect it the least and mostly glorified by those that deserve it the least.

Giving life is a way of relieving responsibility and of passing on the burden of existence to another, with the hope that they will do better or a way of making our own existence mean something, because we have found nothing else to give it purpose.
It is a quintessentially thoughtless act, practiced with regularity by the ignorant and obtuse because here all action is unburdened by thought and the unknown is made unthreatening with imagination and relentless faith.

Hmm.
And Kotoko proves to be someone else then.
Who can it be?
Who can it be?
This place is a fucking drama.
Fitting that it's a nurse.

Oh shock of shocks, worthy of the evening news?
Be still my cruel and virtual beating heart,
I've been found out, stipped and exposed.
I must away and save myself for another day.

And still no one cares.

Satyr -

Speak the words and comes the ghost, hmm?

I miss the old guy, his ranting was preferable to the unabashed attacks and mocking. Back when he had important things to share and when people cared to listen. Alas poor Wanderer, he has become his own Bob and doesn't even recognize the face in the mirror. 'Tis a shame really.

Whitewolf -

Ignorance is something that you should not be mocking as you seem to have it in great abudance, poor childe.

Outlandish -

Ignore the dimwit. If wait long enough she'll pose in a picture just for you just to display her lovely armpit hair. She's endearing like that. Something you can't take your eyes off of... like roadkill.

Outlandish,

My. My. You are an unfriendly person. What's the matter? No Islamophobes around for you to expend your oh so prodigal anger upon?


Satry,

If you only knew what was funny about what you said.


Kotoko,

Wiped any asses lately?
I think Outlandish could use a hand. He seems to be unsure of the proper method. It looks as though he's smeared feces all the way up past his upper lip.

Kotoko sounds like water to me.

satyr:
My, my, my, what a brutish tongue you have stranger.
I like it.
thanks. No suprise that a witty racontuer like yourself would recognise similar qualities in another ;) and I must say I do like the cut of your jib myself.

Although you do seem vaguley familiar, reminiscent of an old cohort of mine on these boards who sadly no longer is around........(??)

kotoko:
If wait long enough she'll pose in a picture just for you just to display her lovely armpit hair.

sigh...I can but sit and hope ;)

invert:

He (outlandish) seems to be unsure of the proper method. It looks as though he's smeared feces all the way up past his upper lip.

no, you heard it wrong peasant, it was your mother who had her upper lip smeared with shit after she tossed my salad.

oh and it's true...she does take it up the ass.

invert:

What? No witty transformation of my username? I was so looking forward to it. It seems to a particularly delightful pasttime of yours.

no, you heard it wrong peasant

Ah. Peasant.
That explains you.
Funny. I suspected, of course. But it's always better when it comes straight from the horse's mouth.

it was your mother who had her upper lip smeared with shit after she tossed my salad.

And here's where I'm supposed to say that it wasn't my mother at all. That it was, in fact, your mother. Or perhaps your mother's uncle.

oh and it's true...she does take it up the ass.

What's your point. You have something against anal sex?
I have the feeling that this was supposed to be insulting, but I just don't see it.

outlandish
Although you do seem vaguley familiar, reminiscent of an old cohort of mine on these boards who sadly no longer is around........(??)Yes, I know what you mean.
With all the name changes and constant disruptions, this café is becoming ….outlandish.

Sort of confusing really, if you actually give a shit.

invert_nexus
Satry,

If you only knew what was funny about what you said.Ah, noble footman, you know that I know that you know that I know that you know that I know so very little about so many things.

Kotoko
Satyr -

Speak the words and comes the ghost, hmm?Or the Devil

I miss the old guy, his ranting was preferable to the unabashed attacks and mocking.You are much too kind to that old fool and I will not have it.
You forgot decrepit, fearful, defeated, weary, lost, degenerate and lonely.

I can only assume that a nobility, as yourself, can only miss his presence as a way of feeling good about ones self in comparison.
Such living carrion have a way of reminding us of our own youthful vitality and healthy energies.

Back when he had important things to share and when people cared to listen.Surely you jest.
Where amongst his endless, repetitive critiques on culture and social engineering did you find such interest?
I found him to be a good example of maladjustment and bitter resentment.
Let him never wander these ways again.

This is a place of mirth and play and joyous glee. This is a place of abandonment and life.
Can you not see how things have improved recently?
The Forum has embraced the everyday and relevant.
Look at how we celebrate a Christian wedding, for example, and the noble fruits of that healthy union.

Alas poor Wanderer, he has become his own Bob and doesn't even recognize the face in the mirror. 'Tis a shame really.Oh, I think he sees his reflection and now wears a mask to make himself feel better about it.

But Bob tells me you are an old resident of this Kingdom.

Kotoko,

Wiped any asses lately?
I think Outlandish could use a hand. He seems to be unsure of the proper method. It looks as though he's smeared feces all the way up past his upper lip.

I don't wipe asses around here. Talk to Bells, she's self-appointed herself mother of the rueful lot of ingrates here. Perhaps she can explain it better than I. Her instincts are obsessively maternal and she lives vicariously through everyone else. Always has.

As for the feces, that seems common place when you live in a sewer. I thought you'd be used to the smell by now.

You are much too kind to that old fool and I will not have it.
You forgot decrepit, fearful, defeated, weary, lost, degenerate and lonely.

I prefer the flawed human over the Jeckyl and Hyde routine. It's so below him.

As for my presence, invert already outed me. It's old news, and not very newsworthy. I am simply the same as most of you, a image reflected of an old being and nothing important.

kotoko, you're turning me on.

Kotoko
I prefer the flawed human over the Jeckyl and Hyde routine. It's so below him.Beneath him?
The chambers of Hell are only beneath him, for he is the vilest of the vile and lowest of the low.
Why do you think he wanders? No place can tolerate his smell for long.

It is funny how we have access to what is beneath but not to what is above.
Even a nobleman wants to wallow in the dirt, from time to time, if he knows he can get up, have a shower and wear his finery afterwards.

Every environment requires an adaptation, a compromise.
One cannot wear a Tuxedo to a beer-bash or Jeans and a tee-shirt to a Ball.

Satyr -

One can, and should wear a Tux to a backyard barbecue and a ratty old t-shirt to the Grammy's. It's just such a thing that turns the tables on society itself. Look at the hoopla over flip-flops in the White House. It stimulates and enrages, and things change. Without the catalyst of such things, life is mundane and uneventful and we sit at home silently cursing our neighbor, or getting red faced in the car while driving.

Non-conformity is the TNT that blows down the walls of the old establishment and makes way for new and more interesting decor. It's the stuff that makes hearts leap and minds churn.

His smell never bothered me, and when he was gone I found myself searching for it and always coming up empty-handed. He changed me.

However, I am no noble. I am human, in all my glorious imperfection.

invert:
I'm not even going to bother quoting that drivel you have the audactiy to offer up as a "riposte".
son you've run out of what little steam you had. Better stick to picking off the scraps that gendy leaves you.

You're out of your league.

invert:
I'm not even going to bother quoting that drivel you have the audactiy to offer up as a "riposte".
son you've run out of what little steam you had. Better stick to picking off the scraps that gendy leaves you.

You're out of your league.

Ha.

He is out of his league.

You don't know the tenth of it.

Do you need a new tee-ball and whiffle bat, Outsie? Your hat is on backwards.

Kotoko
One can, and should wear a Tux to a backyard barbecue and a ratty old t-shirt to the Grammy's. It's just such a thing that turns the tables on society itself.I don’t care much about “turning the tables”, myself.
That is work best left for ideologues and dreamers.

Such romanticism must be reserved for the deserving and those that can appreciate such delicacies.
This place deserves mirth and happiness, and hope and, as such, mockery and caricaturing.
Sometimes when the river’s flow cannot be halted or dammed or diverted, it is best to abandon yourself to its tides and play on the surfaces with the churning waves.
It flows forever to the bottomless sea, whereas you might be able to swim to the banks and enjoy a picnic there, listening to its energy and being comforted by its regularity and predictability.

Although I do see the appeal of wearing a torn shirt to the Grammy’s and sipping on Champagne in your sneakers and ripped Jeans, I can also appreciate the fun in wearing a tuxedo and acting out the pompous pretentiousness with such accuracy that the genuine hypocrites fail to see that your smile is a sneer.

Non-conformity is the TNT that blows down the walls of the old establishment and makes way for new and more interesting decor. It's the stuff that makes hearts leap and minds churn. Non-conformity can also be a private, secretive thing, which does not seek to tear down any walls but that wants to learn to circumvent them and find secret passages underneath them.

His smell never bothered me, and when he was gone I found myself searching for it and always coming up empty-handed. He changed me. Hush now, excitable youth!!!
Such things must not be admitted in public or with such openness.

We are judged by whom we associate with.
His filth and despair will taint your on-line persona.
Better to cast your stones along with those that despise him and keep your admirations to yourself.

He is an outcast in a Kingdom that deserves jesters and needs footmen.

However, I am no noble. I am human, in all my glorious imperfection.And your recognition is a first step forward.

The world need less pretention, and not more. It lacks courage and honesty.

Romantic notions have I, and will I continue to share. My bed is cold without them.

Alas, the kingdom has it's fill of jesters but lacks in footmen. The nobles it does have are of the greatest quality to be found and are likewise respected and even loved for their candor. But who to remind the children? Surely not the jesters.

The bourgeois commoner like myself. That's who.

In all their tainted, tarnished and otherwise neat peasents clothing.
Screaming to the rafters, dear sir. As if the very life of the forum depends on it.

And make no mistake about it... it does.

Outty:
Are you naturally this thick, or do you practice regularly?
"uglyness" is equated to phenyotype hence has to be considered within the context of genetics. Being a "jew" is not related to physical/racial anthropology (despite what the euro-hebrew-israelite-wannabe jews want us to think) and is a matter of spiritual belief. Your moronic statement of:
"a jew and a black would have ugly babies" is based on the assumption that any so called "uglyness" would be as a result of the mixing of 2 factors X&Y, ie you clearly have come to the conclusion that being a "jew" has a tangible effect on the offsprings "aesthetic appearance" which is so moronic it beggars belief, so by that assumption a xtian & a black would pruduce ugly babies?? absolute craziness.
Still playing the offended-intellectual card, huh?

Spiritual belief or not, little boy, the most common phenotype of the Jew resembles more that of Mel Brooks than that of Woopi Goldberg's.
These two intermixing would breed the visual imagery of Mel Brooks and Godlberg blended into something resembling an albino black.
Or that transvestive I linked you to up there.
Which is.
Ugly.


Either Brooks or Goldberg, you brillinat genius, could be Muslim or Jewish or Eastern Orthodox and still have ugly babies.
That's my point.


Kotoko:
You should be off somwhere proudly flushing a heparin lock.

Your reverence, by the way, betrays you.

Kotoko
The world need less pretention, and not more. It lacks courage and honesty.Then I’ll await yours.
My honesty is shared with those I trust and courage can be displayed in many ways.

Romantic notions have I, and will I continue to share. My bed is cold without them. My, my what a sly tongue you have.

Alas, the kingdom has it's fill of jesters but lacks in footmen. Alas it lacks no such thing.
Just ask the inverted one. The footstool of Sci Kingdom, the shadow amongst the curtains, the fisherman.
This place needs more Jesters for fools it has enough.
One mustn’t misconstrue one for the other.

The nobles it does have are of the greatest quality to be found and are likewise respected and even loved for their candor. But who to remind the children? Surely not the jesters. Noblemen are rarely honest.
No one matches the Jester in truthfulness, for even the self is mocked through his games.

The bourgeois commoner like myself. That's who. You… a commoner?!!!
I think not.

In all their tainted, tarnished and otherwise neat peasents clothing.
Screaming to the rafters, dear sir. As if the very life of the forum depends on it.The life of the Forum, as all life, depends on most people taking it seriously.
There are enough of those, not to be concerned.

Her Highness hints at a question:
What does your reverence betray?

Perhaps more Jesters.
Ah, I feel at home already.
This is no place for Wanderer’s. This is a place for Loiterer’s.

Kotoko,

Ah.
I know who you are.
And it's so funny that you turn on Outlandish there.
Very.Funny.


Outlandish,

Out of my league?
I dont really play the game so speaking of leagues is not part of the picture.


Gendanken,

Your reverence, by the way, betrays you.

Hmm.
Maybe. But I don't think so.
I think he's someone else altogether.
Could be wrong though.

gendy, stop digging.
Best thing is to talk to a professor of anthropology and stop embarrassing yourself.

Spiritual belief or not, little boy, the most common phenotype of the Jew resembles more that of Mel Brooks than that of Woopi Goldberg's.
again equating phenotype with faith, what the hell is wrong with you?
the statement:
"the most common phenotype of the jew" is the most commonly misunderstanding you expect some dumb redneck to come out with.
there is no "common" jew phenotype. The "common" phenotype you refer to is the phenotype of eastern euro peoples, slavs, etc. since the vast majority of jews who 1st came to america happened to be of eastern euro origin (ashkenazi jews) hence their phenotype was/is the same of other non jewish peoples of the same geographical area.


These two intermixing would breed the visual imagery of Mel Brooks and Godlberg blended into something resembling an albino black.
Or that transvestive I linked you to up there.
Which is.
Ugly.
and that would have nothing to do with them being jewish you mutt. Don't tell me, it's the cohen gene theory right?? :rolleyes:


Either Brooks or Goldberg, you brillinat genius, could be Muslim or Jewish or Eastern Orthodox and still have ugly babies.
again, you contradict yourself.

That's my point.
you have no point wench.

You guys sure use some big words. Oh my, we are all so impressed.

Weird that I should be the voice of reason here, but I remind you all that this thread is dedicated to that remarkable achievement by Truthseeker who, firstly, got hitched and then managed to fool himself into believing he had impregnated her with his own semen.

This is not the place for discussing complicated, mundane things, that make my head ache, like phenotypes and races and ….. Jews.
Be merry people!!!
Raise a glass and toast the achievements of great Christian minds condemning their ‘children’ to consciousness.
Let us celebrate the gestating newcomer to our Underworld, who will spend a lifetime hoping for redemption under the tutelage of his, supposed, father and will dream of an escape back into the not-needing and not-suffering it was pulled out of.

A toast to Truthseeker and his bride!!!
May he seek truth and forever fool himself that he’s found it or that such a thing exists.
Then let him pass on this delirium to his child.

sattie,

wanna scrap over kotoko??

Who’s she?
An old reincarnation herself, no doubt.
A mask over a mask, masking a mask.

Sciforums rocks!!!!!!

Sciforums does rock. Good luck Truthseeker. Be a good man and father, if at all possible.

satyr:

who is she?
dunno....but she's beginning to float my boat....

dunno....but she's beginning to float my boat....

She is very misleading and very misguided.

And all the colored girls go do-do do do do do-do.
Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side.

She is very misleading and very misguided.

how so?

how so?

Just a hunch, if I am right about who it is (I said "water" earlier), but I could be wrong. Probably am. Go for it. But be wary.

Sigh.
No. It's not Water.
It's one of two people.

Just a hunch, if I am right about who it is (I said "water" earlier), but I could be wrong. Probably am. Go for it. But be wary.

did water get banned??

Sigh.
No. It's not Water.
It's one of two people.

well?? spit it out.

Holly hitch-hiked 'cross the USA.

Why should I tell you?
You're mean.

did water get banned??

Don't know. Who do you think it is invert?

Holly hitch-hiked 'cross the USA.

Why should I tell you?
You're mean.
:eek:

how old are you??

surely you can take a few punches thrown in jest??

now spit.

I'm 'this' many.
(Guess how many fingers I'm holding up?)

As to taking a punch.
No. You hurt me. Very badly. I'll never be the same now.
Poor, poor me.

Anyway.
I won't out the poor guy. I've given you several clues to at least gather part of the identity. Not the specifics. But enough to know why you having the hots for it is funny. (And. I'll concede, of course, that you don't really have the hots for it. Doesn't matter.)

It is not important who I am. I am aware that some of you know and am not hiding. Except from those who would have my head sliced cleanly from my body for crimes against the ego. And if I should suffer the fate of my predecessor, so be it. It is still not important who I am.

Unless of course, you believe in online personas.

Trivial. Gendy knows, Vert might know as well. But it matters not. What we say here today, and every day forward is what becomes the walls of a house well-lived in.

Invert -

You were wrong on your first guess but right on your second.

And in the end, I am still the one who cared enough to give her very best. I give so that we exist in the same space we both love.

Satyr -

You are right about Jesters and fools. But the line between them is thin. The footmen are not always honest, but they are sincere and blunt in the way they express themselves. Of course, only for those who possess the mental clarity to drink them in. A fine wine, shared by the ones who know to savor it's body and spirit.

I am one who remembers birthdays others forgot, despite the birthday boys reluctance to celebrate. I am an admirer who listens well and often.

Gendy -

I betray myself, but not you. For you are more precious than you realize and moreso then you'd be comfortable admitting. Without you, the doldrums take hold of my ankles and draw me under. And I am without light, and I am without sound. This place is less important without you in it. There are some who come and go and are barely missed, but there are people like you who are missed when you blink.

I'm 'this' many.
(Guess how many fingers I'm holding up?)

As to taking a punch.
No. You hurt me. Very badly. I'll never be the same now.
Poor, poor me.

Anyway.
I won't out the poor guy. I've given you several clues to at least gather part of the identity. Not the specifics. But enough to know why you having the hots for it is funny. (And. I'll concede, of course, that you don't really have the hots for it. Doesn't matter.)

please tell me it's not a HE??

and dont be silly, I dont have the "hots". This isnt a playground child.

So sweet.

kotoko,

Gendy -

I betray myself, but not you. For you are more precious than you realize and moreso then you'd be comfortable admitting. Without you, the doldrums take hold of my ankles and draw me under. And I am without light, and I am without sound. This place is less important without you in it. There are some who come and go and are barely missed, but there are people like you who are missed when you blink.

No. Please don't, trust me there's only one way to handle that girl.

she's a snake.

kotoko,



No. Please don't, trust me there's only one way to handle that girl.

she's a snake.

she can be, but deep down she's really just lost and confused like the rest of us.

Outlandish -

A snake is a beautiful and amazing creature to watch. The smoothness of their movement, the swiftness in which they envelope and snuff out their prey, or simply just swallow them whole. Their entire dance is remarkable.

Only those who are stupid or filled with too much bravado, get close enough to be bitten.

Others, like you, simply fear the bite, curse the source, and in the end you remain unremarkable.

Cotton -

Make no mistake about gendanken. Flawed yes, but lost and confused? You must look like prey right about now.

Kotoko,

Others, like you, simply fear the bite and hate the source. And remain unremarkable.

....hang on, let me just pull out that dagger from my heart.

Do I look like I'm affraid of her?

kotoko:

here, watch your beautiful snake squirm like the maggot she really is:Porfiry.


Truly, I'm sorry. I was not aware you were as sensitive about how people here saw your forums, it was only a passing comment on the layout. But then I think in terms of me and realize the rage I feel when my brainchilds are slighted.

This place has for months now proved to be a wonderful niche where its low moments are redeemed by those worth it- and there are handfuls in this community I find I've only read about in books. I would like to continue my stay here and ask that you realize the beautiful gifts your place here brings to people worldwide.

Truly, honestly, my apologies. This handle I'm under is only there for the witty rhyming scheme- if anything its you that's offended, not I.