I have to come to love the naked me. I take pride in myself and love all my parts. I love everything from my green eyes to my hairy vagina.

I was appauled to learn today that it is a common practice for gilrs to shave off thier pubic hair, both for hygenic reasons and because quote 'they have sex a lot...are embarrased...guys don't like it...'

I truly do not understand this. Why wouldn't guys like it? It's supposed to be there. Women wouldn't look like women if they didn't. They would be bald little girls.

How could this possibly be considered attractive.

For all those who haven't read the Vagina Monoluges please do. I know it opened up my little nieve mind to this I didn't dare to think about before.

http://www.colby.edu/personal/j/jamartin/

i find this a bit too racy of a topic to respond to in sciforums as far as your questions go.. but there is one thing i have to comment on...

I was appauled to learn today that it is a common practice...... what rock did you crawl out from under?

dont worry nightfall, already reported to wet1 or banshee

Oral sex. Imagine having to eat a fish that had hair. Sound fun? Not to me.

Let me give you a bit of a show of the sheer hypocricy of your statement. Do you want guys to never wax their ears? Do you want guys to never shave their face and have beards down to their groins? Do you want guys to never cut their hair? I mean what purpose is there to cutting your hair? How much do you feel like giving head to a guy who doesn't wash down there? Does that sound appetizing? I sure as fuck hope not. But what reason besides hygene is there to wash down there, right?

If you don't want to shave, that's fine. But you best not expect me, or any guy, to go down there.

Okay, just for the fact that you find my post racey shows a cultural stereotype. Talking about vaginas is not racey. I'll refrase my questions however to make it less offensive. I realize some of them are unnecessary.

"Women wouldn't look like women if they didn't. They would be bald little girls."

So then if a guy shaves he looks like a little boy?

Originally posted by beth
Okay, just for the fact that you find my post racey shows a cultural stereotype. Talking about vaginas is not racey. I'll refrase my questions however to make it less offensive. I realize some of them are unnecessary.

Pretty sad, isn't it?

Click me (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2029763/detail.html)

If a guy shaved his penis, yes he would look like a little boy.

Personally, I'm indifferent. If a girl wants to shave down there, that's her business. Whether she does it to please herself or her partner is again her business.

As for shock, I don't find it shocking at all that people choose to do that.

As for what's attractive, heh, well...

I see nothing wrong with trimming. Enough said. But really I don't know how much of a difference it all makes...

I personally like shaved or neatly trimmed on myself and on women.
It is just more asthetically pleasing to me.

How much do you feel like giving head to a guy who doesn't wash down there? Does that sound appetizing? I sure as fuck hope not. But what reason besides hygene is there to wash down there, right?

If you don't want to shave, that's fine. But you best not expect me, or any guy, to go down there.

That's just silly.

Not shaving is not dirty if she cleans herself.
And being shaved is not clean if she doesn't.

If your interested in oral sex, you better take it for what it is. Otherwise, get your head out of their crotch.

Oral sex. Imagine having to eat a fish that had hair. Sound fun? Not to me.

Aye, then there are electrodes, and aestetics, and the fact that one might want to wear a thong.

THE LITTLE COOCHI SNORCHER THAT COULD

*Stares in disbelief, realizes that if this is popular, the human race is doomed, and goes on a psychotic shooting rampage*

Okay, just for the fact that you find my post racey shows a cultural stereotype. Talking about vaginas is not racey. I'll refrase my questions however to make it less offensive. I realize some of them are unnecessary.

Umm, talking about sexual organs is sexual. And the mods have been notified.

If your interested in oral sex, you better take it for what it is. Otherwise, get your head out of their crotch.

So you'd blow a guy if he had scraggly, dirty pubic hair? Gross.

"If a guy shaved his penis, yes he would look like a little boy"

No, I'm talking about facial hair. You said that a woman shaved around her vagina looks like a little girl. Now pardon me for assuming things - but I'm pretty sure your logic was that a woman shaved looks like a girl because before puberty a girl has no hair there and afterwards she does. Well, before puberty a man has no hair on his face and after puberty he does. It's the exact same thing. Not one little difference.

For that matter - do you shave your legs at all?

"If your interested in oral sex, you better take it for what it is. Otherwise, get your head out of their crotch."

Well, call me an old fashioned man but you know I just like to make sex as enjoyable for my partner as possible. That's the point of giving oral sex. It's not like I'm getting off by being down there. If a woman is not interested in making sex as enjoyable for me as possible that seems rather to make her an asshole in my view.

Just out of curiousity, where does it outline what is acceptable and what is unaccetable in the free thoughts forum?

It seems like there has been a lot of problems lately with power-tripping prudes compaining that "racey" threads should be deleted. Why can't these people simply abstain (no pun intended) from viewing or participating in these threads? How is it different than censorship.

Maybe there should be written/enforced guidelines so that people can view these "free thoughts" without being offended.

[quote]"I see nothing wrong with trimming." [quote]

I just don't see the point. To me, sex is about as primitve as it gets so so should be the environment. I like me and I'm not going to change that. That part of me is a constant. If I want to reinvent myself, I'll buy new clothes. Change the positon of my bed in my room. I will alter that part of my body for no one.

Put on a sexy pair of underwear! And if you don't find sexy underwear in anyway alters your hormones, then learn to appreciate a vagina for all its natural components. Including the unique smell, color, shape...

Originally posted by Tyler
Well, call me an old fashioned man but you know I just like to make sex as enjoyable for my partner as possible. That's the point of giving oral sex. It's not like I'm getting off by being down there. If a woman is not interested in making sex as enjoyable for me as possible that seems rather to make her an asshole in my view.

By you judging her as an asshole because she doesn't want to shave her vagina because YOU like it better that way, it makes you sound selfish and shallow.

Having pubic hair, if kept clean, is not a sign of poor hygiene.

Well thank you for putting words into my mouth, raven. I said "as enjoyable as possible". Not forcing someone to do something that brings them pain. If a woman wants me to be whipped across teh back with a leather strap I ain't about to let that happen (no comments, Xev).

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i belive everyone agreed to that

Originally posted by Tyler
Well thank you for putting words into my mouth, raven. I said "as enjoyable as possible".

And when you said, "If a woman is not interested in making sex as enjoyable for me as possible that seems rather to make her an asshole in my view." were you NOT referring to her shaving her pubic hair in order to make it enjoyable to you?

And by the way, I DO get off by being down there.

I engoy giving oral sex about as much as I enjoy intercourse (if not more).

If you don't enjoy it, why do it?

Just out of curiousity, where does it outline what is acceptable and what is unaccetable in the free thoughts forum?

The terms of service, nitwit.

I engoy giving oral sex about as much as I enjoy intercourse (if not more).

*Xev laughs hysterically*

Oh no, it's the "woman who loves to suck cock". And here we were, thinking you existed only in Playboy.

Christ honey, get attention some other way.

...obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws....

Do you really think this is what is meant by sexually oriented?

I doubt this would be lumped in with "obscene, vulgar, hateful, threatening" or illegal. Why does it have to be racey? Why can't it just be a mature topic? It's not people are having cyber-sex or anything. Does it really mean we can't talk about sex at ALL on sciforums? If so, I've seen a lot of threads go by without facing heat.

Besides, isn't it kind of funny how threads of this nature usually yield many replies in a short amount of time?

Originally posted by Xev
*Xev laughs hysterically*

Oh no, it's the "woman who loves to suck cock". And here we were, thinking you existed only in Playboy.

Christ honey, get attention some other way.

I am a male, and I was referring to going down on women.

I have no need or desire to get attention from or impress you or anyone else for that matter.

I have a girlfriend and I am very happy with her.

I was simply sharing my honest opinion on the matter.

I don't think sex is all about "getting off" (been there, done that, then I grew up), I think it is (or should be) a shared experience, and her orgasm has a more powerful effect on me than my own orgasm does.
Believe it or not.

I believe it.

I was simply sharing my honest opinion on the matter.

No, you were picking at a man who's more mature than you'll ever hope to be. Your opinion is worth shit and is mostly "hug your inner child" bullshit that can only emphasize the fact that you've likely got a tiny cock.

I don't think sex is all about "getting off" (been there, done that, then I grew up), I think it is (or should be) a shared experience, and her orgasm has a more powerful effect on me than my own orgasm does.

Sorry you've got such an insular view of the matter. I've always thought of sex as almost a sacred thing, but I'm sure that you're much more wise and mature and shit than I am.
Even if your view of sex is laughably jejune.

What I find is interesting is that it appears to be the view of some posters that they should be obliged to shave their pubic hair for the benefit of prospective sexual partners. To me, this seems like subordinating yourself. And, sadly, it seems to be mostly women who seem to think that such a thing is necessary.

Bottom line for me is: if you want to do it, for whatever reason, do it. But don't let somebody else dictate what you do or do not do with your own body.

James:
To me, this seems like subordinating yourself. And, sadly, it seems to be mostly women who seem to think that such a thing is necessary.

So you put absolutely no effort into being attractive to the opposite sex? Cool. But most people want to think that their partner gives a rat's arse about their pleasure.

Xev,

Perhaps you should re-read my post. I said, if you want to do it <b>for whatever reason</b>, go ahead.

Whatever reason can, of course, include doing it because your partner prefers it and you want to please him or her.

PS The personal comments are unnecessary and make you look silly.

you have never dressed up for a girl?

bought her something?

taken her to a restaurant or whatever?

edit to fix spelling

Originally posted by Xev
No, you were picking at a man who's more mature than you'll ever hope to be. Your opinion is worth shit and is mostly "hug your inner child" bullshit that can only emphasize the fact that you've likely got a tiny cock.

First off, you obviously don't know the first thing about me, my maturity OR my sex life.
How could you possibly be so insightful about who I am when you didn't even know my GENDER?

Secondly, if you saw me simply sharing my point of view in a manner that was not rude, combative or immature in any way (unlike your responses) as me picking at someone you are right when you said:
you're much more wise and mature and shit than I am
Grow up, girl.
Really.

Originally posted by Xev
Christ honey, get attention some other way.

Even if I WERE seeking attention, I couldn't think of a better example of the pot calling the kettle black than YOU calling me on that.

Your tired little antics may get you some giggle and flirts here, but they don't impress me.
You seriously need to get over yourself.

I like this thread. Keep up the good work, folks!

First off, you obviously don't know the first thing about me, my maturity OR my sex life.
How could you possibly be so insightful about who I am when you didn't even know my GENDER?

Oooh, looks like I hit a nerve. No wonder you need that Deepak Chopra shit to get laid.

However, I DO know what you post, eh? And let's face it honey, your problems are obvious. I mean come on, just the obvious contradiction between your condemnation of trying to please one's partner, and your contention that you "get off on giving head" points to - well, inexperience to say the least.

Your tired little antics may get you some giggle and flirts here, but they don't impress me.
You seriously need to get over yourself.

*Laughs*

Umm, darlin', I ain't trying to impress you. I'm trying to allieviate boredom.

I don't need the internet for social interaction. I use it for intellectual stimulation. If you think that it's normal to use this for social contact, I'd suggest re-evaluating your priorities.

James:
Perhaps you should re-read my post. I said, if you want to do it for whatever reason, go ahead.

Thus your observation is null, yes?

Enough with the personal insults. If you stopped yapping long enough to listen to yourself you would realize how little you have to say. Talk about the thread. This isn't a gossip site.

<i>Thus your observation is null, yes?</i>

Not at all. Think about it.

Bottom line for me is: if you want to do it, for whatever reason, do it. Why wouldn't she want to do it? Does it really make a substancial difference to her, other than the principle of the thing? Like it or not, our wants have to be based on something, and it seems like the reason she doesn't want to shave is because these "Vagina Monologues" have told her not to. She ends up becoming a reactionary feminist, who simply tries to go against the grain for the sake of going against the grain.

A girl really does want to get oral sex, and to be viewed as attractive. This sort of thinking ends up discouraging that. If you are only attractive to yourself, then you're not really attractive.

Besides that, hair is vestigial in these heated days, and body hair(esp. on women) is viewed in much the same way as BO(Body Odor) is viewed on men. If you want to start saying Body Odor is natural and everything natural is good, then you won't find much support. Besides that, such a want(to spread your Body Odor) is really just based on other people's thinking that it is disgusting. And that's not a good enough reason.

Btw, whaddya think? Should I trim(or even shave) my pubes or legs, or stay the hairy man that I am? I've seriously been thinking about this, but the thing that's really stopping me is the view that a man shaving his legs isn't manly. Plus.. don't want it to grow back.

Originally posted by beth
Enough with the personal insults. If you stopped yapping long enough to listen to yourself you would realize how little you have to say. Talk about the thread. This isn't a gossip site.
you're acting pretty high and mighty for someone with a hairy vagina....

Originally posted by Xev
Oooh, looks like I hit a nerve. No wonder you need that Deepak Chopra shit to get laid.


Uhhh, no.
It would take a helluva lot more than your childish jabs to hit a nerve with me.

Originally posted by Xev
However, I DO know what you post, eh? And let's face it honey, your problems are obvious. I mean come on, just the obvious contradiction between your condemnation of trying to please one's partner, and your contention that you "get off on giving head" points to - well, inexperience to say the least.


If you stopped trying to analyze me by what I didn't say perhaps you could hear what I said.

There was no contradiction in what I said at all.

I prefer, asthetically, shaved or cleanly trimmed pubic areas.

If my girlfriend didn't shave (which, actually, my current girlfriend doesn't) I wouldn't think she was an asshole for not shaving "to please me" if she preferred to have pubic hair. That would be shallow of me and make ME the asshole.

Sex is not about getting off.
I am not there specifically to get off or to get her off.
It is not about giving or getting.
It is about sharing a wonderful, passionate, erotic sensual experience with each other.
THAT is what makes for spectacular sex.

Maybe you will learn that when you grow up a little.

That doesn't mean that I wouldn't get excited by her having an orgasm, or by pleasing her sexually just as she gets excited by MY orgasm.

As for my view on sex pointing to inexperince, well, I was thinking the same thing about you.
You obviously still have a lot ot learn.

Originally posted by Xev
I don't need the internet for social interaction. I use it for intellectual stimulation. If you think that it's normal to use this for social contact, I'd suggest re-evaluating your priorities.


I think it effective for both.
I use it for intellectual stimulation (which is what drew me to this board in the first place).
I am mainly here for intellectual stimulation when I get bored at work, but that comes not from the machine, but from the human beings that I interract with on here.
I have met some wonderful friends while online, just as I have in real life.
In fact, my girlfriend, who I live with in real life, I met on the internet.

Originally posted by Xev
No, you were picking at a man who's more mature than you'll ever hope to be. Your opinion is worth shit and is mostly "hug your inner child" bullshit that can only emphasize the fact that you've likely got a tiny cock.



Sorry you've got such an insular view of the matter. I've always thought of sex as almost a sacred thing, but I'm sure that you're much more wise and mature and shit than I am.
Even if your view of sex is laughably jejune.

How is it I swore once at a person who really annoyed me, and I got reprimanded and you insult and swear like a trooper and nothing happens!!

Quote: you said: bullshit that can only emphasize the fact that you've likely got a tiny cock. picking at a man who's more mature than you'll ever hope to be. Your opinion is worth shit and is mostly "hug your inner child"

Is that pesonal enough for you!!
THE PERSON EXPRESSING THIS THREAD WAS MAKING A JUST COMMENT...WE ARE ADULT ENOUGH TO DISCUSS IT!:rolleyes:

quick point about the hiracy here

mods are only authority in 2 places, in there section and in concenses

if i bait xev in philosopy and she baits me in ethics it doenst matter

i LOVE giving goofy grief (he had to modify 3 of my posts in one day)

the only exsemptions are dave (oviously) wet1 and banshee (both of whos posts we can modify in our section, altho they wont mod ours cause we are the mod and they helpers except in concenses)


so basically if you have a problem with a poticular thread take it to the mod in charge

dont winge that xev gets away with murder where u dont cause it could have been in my section she swore and u in goofys and i just been to lasy to edit her or havent seen it

*takes a breath*

sorry tipsy:p

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Asguard
[B]quick point about the hiracy here

mods are only authority in 2 places, in there section and in concenses

if i bait xev in philosopy and she baits me in ethics it doenst matter

i LOVE giving goofy grief (he had to modify 3 of my posts in one day)

the only exsemptions are dave (oviously) wet1 and banshee (both of whos posts we can modify in our section, altho they wont mod ours cause we are the mod and they helpers except in concenses)


so basically if you have a problem with a poticular thread take it to the mod in charge

dont winge that xev gets away with murder where u dont cause it could have been in my section she swore and u in goofys and i just been to lasy to edit her or havent seen it

*takes a breath*


what a load of rubbish......authority has to be just and fair.....
where is the fairness in this!!

:confused:

there is no such thing as consitancy

try watching umpires working

even one umpire varys week to week depending on all sorts of things

how much sleep he had, the weather, what we did at training, the way the players are acting, the way the CROWD acts (as much as we try to block it out) and heeps more that u dont even notice

thats one umpire now multiply it by as many people and consitancy is impossable

this is the way dave wants it so this is the way it is

each mod runs a section and ONLY that section, problem with they way they mod, point it out to the mod, if its not satisfactorly resolved dave is the final word

on most things now he refers to the concenses of mods

you dont like that way too bad, this is daves board not yours

Originally posted by Asguard
there is no such thing as consitancy

try watching umpires working

even one umpire varys week to week depending on all sorts of things

how much sleep he had, the weather, what we did at training, the way the players are acting, the way the CROWD acts (as much as we try to block it out) and heeps more that u dont even notice

thats one umpire now multiply it by as many people and consitancy is impossable

this is the way dave wants it so this is the way it is

each mod runs a section and ONLY that section, problem with they way they mod, point it out to the mod, if its not satisfactorly resolved dave is the final word

on most things now he refers to the concenses of mods

you dont like that way too bad, this is daves board not yours


you dont like that way too bad, this is daves board not yours ...

whats that got to do with it I was talking about fairness...a level playing field..why can one person be insulting and others not..for example I can say you are talking out of your vigina!!!

To quote james r:The personal comments are unnecessary and make you look silly.


Xev James:

ummm again i say fairness doesnt exist

read the law a bit and you will see that

read any of the ethics theads and you will see that

is it FAIR that a mother can abort her child with no imput from the father but he still has to pay if she doesnt?

is it FAIR that children stave while people like kerry packer and bill gates have billons and trillans?

is it FAIR that people are being held without trial?

nope

life isnt about fair, its about power and if you happen to find someone in power as benigned as dave is i wouldnt complaine

the way this site is run is much "fairer" than it could be, look at that conservative board where any who disagree are banned

Originally posted by Asguard
ummm again i say fairness doesnt exist

read the law a bit and you will see that

read any of the ethics theads and you will see that


life isnt about fair, its about power and if you happen to find someone in power as benigned as dave is i wouldnt complaine

the way this site is run is much "fairer" than it could be, look at that conservative board where any who disagree are banned

Whats Dave got to do with it..I was talking about a level playing field..why can one person be insulting and others not..power has nothing to do with it....if you want a forum to be mature ..then it has to take into account that we are not all blessed with intellect...therefore when onestart talking about fairness to morons....all you get back oxymorons...xev through her derogatory remarks ,probably has offended many people..where is the fairness in that.......only reply if you can bring in a higher level of intellect to the discussion/

:rolleyes:

again i say take it to the person in charge, ie wet1, banshee or dave (i wouldnt bother dave)

they run freethoughts and they are the ONLY ones with any expectation on them in freethoughts, everyone else here is just a member like u r

Originally posted by beth
Enough with the personal insults. If you stopped yapping long enough to listen to yourself you would realize how little you have to say. Talk about the thread. This isn't a gossip site.

yep..I'll second that:cool: :m:

gossip all you like

i will put money down that this thread is closed by tomorow night

Originally posted by Asguard
gossip all you like

i will put money down that this thread is closed by tomorow night

Why..are we not mature enough to discuss a few hairs and a vigina,thread posted by a woman, a little authority is dangerous in some hands! what we need here is maturity and mature mods with an open mind:cool:

look you may not be away that i was in surport of a forum for sexually related discussion (not porn)

had 3 members willing to co mod it (me, bbcboy and nighfall) but the members voted it down

well thats the way you wanted it thats the way it is

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Asguard
[B]look you may not be away that i was in surport of a forum for sexually related discussion (not porn)

asguard this is not a personal vendetta....
beth said quote:
"Enough with the personal insults. If you stopped yapping long enough to listen to yourself you would realize how little you have to say. Talk about the thread. This isn't a gossip site".

enough with the personal insults...that is what she said..I did it once and I got severely reprimanded..xev has done it thousands of times...where is fairness in that .I was sticking up for beth because she was telling the truth....
Why..are we not mature enough to discuss a few hairs and a vigina,thread posted by a woman, a little authority is dangerous in some hands! what we need here is maturity and mature mods with an open mind.....understand!

:cool:

your right

this is not a vendetta

if you have a specific complaint i will bring it to the relevent atention

as for this thread, my proposal was voted down in favor of a tougher stance, so thats the way it is, nothing personal at all

"Hairy" photos and movies are usually located in one of the "Weird Fetish" categories in porn sites...

Hair is down there for I-don't-know-what reason (to keep warm?), but I think nowadays, we don't really need it.

Originally posted by BloodSuckingGerbile
"Hairy" photos and movies are usually located in one of the "Weird Fetish" categories in porn sites...
Exactly, its not normal.
Beth I'm glad you feel "liberated" or whatever, but most people that see you nude ARE going to find you visually offensive and think you are a weirdo. Its such a simple way to become more physically appealing, I bet fat and ugly girls wished they could "shave" off their weight and warts in 5 minutes.
But you take pride in this easily fixed flaw?
If you said "I couldn't give a fuck anymore, I never get laid anyway" I could understand, but why are you so "proud" of this?

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
Beth I'm glad you feel "liberated" or whatever, but most people that see you nude ARE going to find you visually offensive and think you are a weirdo. Its such a simple way to become more physically appealing, I bet fat and ugly girls wished they could "shave" off their weight and warts in 5 minutes.
But you take pride in this easily fixed flaw?
If you said "I couldn't give a fuck anymore, I never get laid anyway" I could understand, but why are you so "proud" of this?

I think wanting to please YOURSELF and be what and who YOU think is beautiful regardless of what other people think is something to be DAMNED proud of.

Point is, SHE doesn't think it is a flaw.
You may, but she doesn't.
So she works to be and please herself.
Rather than what you, magazines, MTV and everyone else tells her she SHOULD be.
She is being true to herself, and that is the only way to be trult proud of yourself and who you are.

More people should be like that.

What's more important to you:
Fitting in with what is "normal"?
Or being yourself?

Yeah thats all heart warming and fantastic, but the fact is, unless she has a fetish for creepy pit-stained reclusive perverts with comb-overs, she is going to have trouble finding a guy or at least finding a guy who doesn't ridicule her.
Huge bearded vaginas are more than just an aquired taste, only truely sick individuals can see one without dry-heaving.
I see your point but there are reasonable limits, just because magazines and M-tv say its not cool to walk around with a pantload of faeces, doesn't mean I'm going to say "fuck it" and 'rebeliously' crap my pants.

Hair is on our bodies for a reason. Hair is the dirtiest part of our bodies. It holds most, if not all, bacteria, which in turn, keeps that bacteria out, for the most part. It's that simple. Women who shave down there choose to do so, but I'm willing to bet it's not healthier. You know, I wonder if studies have been done between shaved and non-shaved vaginas? The studies I would be interested in is to see if shaved women get more 'yeast infections' compared to non-shaved, or some other bacterial infections? That I would be interested in seeing the findings for, for sure!

Okay, just for the fact that you find my post racey shows a cultural stereotype. Talking about vaginas is not racey. I'll refrase my questions however to make it less offensive. I realize some of them are unnecessary. vaginas is not what i find racey... wanting to know the sexual benifits of shaving pubic i f do find a bit racey..

and for the record...

It seems like there has been a lot of problems lately with power-tripping prudes compaining that "racey" threads should be deleted. Why can't these people simply abstain (no pun intended) from viewing or participating in these threads? How is it different than censorship. the threads themselves dont bother me. check site feedback.. im a huge supporter of a sex forum. however, this isnt a sex forum.. (yet! damn.. wish we had one, this could go there..:rolleyes: ) . so please dont call me a power tripping prude.


edit: way too many spelling errors.

power tripping prude:D

"were you NOT referring to her shaving her pubic hair in order to make it enjoyable to you?"

No, I was making a general comment. If it in some way hinders a woman's pleasure, gives her pain or she is against it for some reason - I won't force her to do it, nor will I be angry if she won't. But if it's simply a matter of "I don't wanna".... Well, okay, I don't wanna shave my face, so you best be happy with me having a long and dirty beard.

And beth, I ask the question again - do you shave your legs?

Well... I'm male and I don't have any hair down there. I removed it once on a dare and haven't gone back since. But then I'm strange like that, I really dislike hair and shave my head as well.

As for extensive undergrowths on females, I find them rather repulsive. Fortunately I haven't had the displeasure of running into an untrimmed hedge yet.

Originally posted by beth
I have to come to love the naked me. I take pride in myself and love all my parts. I love everything from my green eyes to my hairy vagina.

I was appauled to learn today that it is a common practice for gilrs to shave off thier pubic hair, both for hygenic reasons and because quote 'they have sex a lot...are embarrased...guys don't like it...'

I truly do not understand this. Why wouldn't guys like it? It's supposed to be there. Women wouldn't look like women if they didn't. They would be bald little girls.

How could this possibly be considered attractive.

For all those who haven't read the Vagina Monoluges please do. I know it opened up my little nieve mind to this I didn't dare to think about before.
http://www.colby.edu/personal/j/jamartin/


errrr......thats nice for u.....

okay, just thought i'd say, that this thread is becoming incredibly boring, do any of you have any right to tell anyone what to do? WHO GIVES A SHIT?!?!?! if ya want 2 shave them do if ya don't, DON'T! there we go la de da, SIMPLE! why have you people made such a big deal out'v it?!?!

again the filthy useless nazi pigs come out with their whips. shaving vaginas is frikking aesthetics. whats sexual about discussing it? how about a cultural anthro topic discussing sexual practices of some tribe? in detail? you wanna make that taboo?

wet and banshee: ignore the prudes please. the thread is decent.
this is an board on the internet in the 21 century. not some cave in victorian times

as always moderators, if you are unable to to perform your duties in an impartial and enlightened manner, resign now. pronto. do not make the rest of us suffer thru your personal biases/whims/fancies/having a bad day/sick/hormones/whatnot

do it for the board! take a hike!

post it as "Geopolitical spread of pro and anti "Bush" voters" to make it more chewable for some purists here ....

One would think that some geeks regard sex as a disturbing phenomena that flushes the blood out of their highly deverloped brains into other regions of the body causing convulsions and loss of rational thinking...

Comeon people! sexuality is one of the biggest engines behind civilisation, it has impact on all aspects of culture science and even political scandals, so let's discuss it, just keep it somewhat respectfull and on-topic.

Personally I like a bit of hair: a perfectly trimmed landing strip on a girl . I do respect the girl who has peace with a really hairy vagina (at least she is not bothered by (Start disclaimer: as perceived by males: end disclaimer), common female insecurity issues like shaving the pussy and being slender like a catwalk model because men or the media tell you to)

However I wouldn't boink a female with a large bush, but likewise I can imagine some females not wanting to get it on with males with a wild beard and smelly armpits? Now if you feel OK about your smelly armpits, RESPECT, but I wish you good luck, you gonna need it....

you're acting pretty high and mighty for someone with a hairy vagina....


LOL!!!!!!

[qutoe] body hair(esp. on women) is viewed in much the same way as BO(Body Odor) is viewed on men. If you want to start saying Body Odor is natural and everything natural is good, then you won't find much support. [/quote]


May God broden your narrow culturally warped mind. Stop reading Cosmo. Hairy Vaginas (common to all female humans) can hardly be compared to a bacterial reaction of BO. I don't undestand why you would be turned off by hair. People like to play in the hair on eachothers heads right...

And I mean if people are having oral sex then hair won't change much if te girl washes properly. The same germs, secretions, bacteria can thrive in that same environment even with out the hair.

Each moderator is a little different. In the forums I moderate, my policy is that, in general, personal insults are not tolerated. However, that depends somewhat on the attitude of the person ostensibly being insulted. If a person who has been insulted laughs it off then nobody is hurt and the posts can stay as far as I am concerned.

If you are offended by a post, that is what the "Report" button is for.

BETH:
Do you shave your legs?

Tyler:
Please - why would you even want to know?

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
I see your point but there are reasonable limits, just because magazines and M-tv say its not cool to walk around with a pantload of faeces, doesn't mean I'm going to say "fuck it" and 'rebeliously' crap my pants.

I definitely see what you mean.
*quietly sneaks away to change his pants*

Shaving = degeneracy.

It's another vestige of judeo-christian body shame. Nature evasion, if you will. Clearly, we cannot allow this to continue.

Did the Vikings shave? No!

you dont like that way too bad, this is daves board not yours

does acting like an asshole and an utter nincompoop come so easily for you asguard?
why mince your words? why dont you just ask us to fuck off? to have you represent dave and his board with your self serving interpretations of moderator impartiality is a joke. get smart and keep a low profile. you put your foot in your mouth everytime you decide to blab.

I don't see too many Vikings around anymore though (sadly), so maybe it's not in our best interest to mimic a people that has little influence these days.

Might I go so far as to suggest that the Viking's abundance of bodily hair is exactly why we see so few of them today? I may!

Originally posted by Nebula
I don't see too many Vikings around anymore though (sadly), so maybe it's not in our best interest to mimic a people that has little influence these days.

Might I go so far as to suggest that the Viking's abundance of bodily hair is exactly why we see so few of them today? I may!

No, it was because of Christians and other such losers that we don't have Vikings anymore.

REAL girls like men who are manly, unlike the Americanized degenerates here.

No, it was because of Christians and other such losers that we don't have Vikings anymore.

I thought it was because of the international Jewish conspiricy?

No, it was because of Christians and other such losers that we don't have Vikings anymore.

Exactly. The Christians gave the Vikings a hard time because the Vikings were hairy, which goes against the judeo-christian body shame complex, as you pointed out earlier.

Originally posted by Xev
I thought it was because of the international Jewish conspiricy?

Who do Christians worship?

What was he?

*Checks her "handbook for members of international Jewish conspiricy"*

Oh that's right, we invented Christianity.

It doesn't matter anyway, because as the monologues assert, Christians don't have vaginas in the first place.

I too love your vagina! And all vaginas. Vagina, vagina, vagina. Ah, how it rolls off the tongue (oopsies). I guess I shouldn't say things like that. Let's see...

You did crawl out from under some rock. I've known people of both sexes to trim and not trim. Some go totally bald, others like a little bush. What someone does is his/her own prerogative, obviously, yet at the same time, hesh will probably have in mind the outcomes (more or less play). Just like the way one acts, wears, etc...

Be yourself, I suppose. But, don't expect everyone to like you for it. Preference wise, yes I can support the testimony that hair in the mouth is annoying, but yeah, I don't know. I don't think I'd be with someone and then pull a 180 when I find out whatever I find out about the nether region. Regarding 1 night stands, this would probably be a totally different story. And, everyone is different, and I'm often not considered typical. But, then again, who the hell are these typical people?

wow what a thread. its gone from the topic to rules, to personal namecalling, to stuff i didn't care to take time in understanding to ancient cultures/ religions and finally back to topic.

My own views, i don't care so long as its not a jungle. example: the biggest turnoff a woman could have, is just when you finally the the dress off and right there is a bush hanging out on both sides of the panty. That just shows a lack of maintainance in my opinion. Also i can't stand hair in my mouth.

This site inappropriate? I think your using the word of the rules to take away fromt he meaning. My guess by that is they didn't want the whole cybersex thing getting out of hand or your usual perverts so common to general chat rooms. This is a perfectly reasonable topic open to debate. Anyone who got off to the stuff on this thread most really have been horny or something.

back on topic to what i said earlier. my preferance "not out of control" is of course my liking. I don't expect any rebels of shaving to be thrown in jail. Would i dump someone for not shaving or trimming? Yeah probabily, but not absolutely. Reason, my thinking is if she had these views she probably would have other views not to my liking. Example if she also didn't shave her pits and didn't take time to make herself appealing to society, then she probably wouldn't like me either.

YES I SHAVE MY LEGS AS WELL AS MY ARM PITS. I shave my armpits on a regular basis becasue I find it uncomfortable to have them grown out. However my legs get quite hairy becaue I shave them only like once a month'ish... My hair isn't black so you can't even see it.

I'm only telling you this becasue you are so insistant and because I can see where you are tyring to lead your argument... there is a difference between shaving off your pubic hairs and the hair in your armpits or on your legs. Just as there is a difference for men in shaving their faces from shaving thier penis's.

I guess I would choose not to shave my legs but I am subject to public ridicule. It's a lot easier to defend having a hairy vagina than it is legs or armpits because I rarely have the urge to display my crotch to the public. Unlike my sexy legs.

Be yourself, I suppose. But, don't expect everyone to like you for it. Preference wise, yes I can support the testimony that hair in the mouth is annoying, but yeah, I don't know. I don't think I'd be with someone and then pull a 180 when I find out whatever I find out about the nether region. Regarding 1 night stands, this would probably be a totally different story. And, everyone is different, and I'm often not considered typical.

I guess along with having a hairy vagina I find myself abstaining from oral sex as it seems quite unappealling to your tounge all over an area full if specimens that would probably be interesting to observe under a microscope. Especially with someone you don't know.

'two seeming stranges bump into eachother in the coffee shop. "Hey, have we slept together?" "I don't know, let me see your cunt." '

I feel cheesed not being able to put these lasting memories in my photo album!

No oral sex!?!?!? :eek:

And, those microscopic things are EVERYWHERE!

i just can't handle the nubs! :m: