I let them give me Haldol

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  1. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    For the past 3 weeks I had been staying at a nut house.
    It's actually a "social rehabilitation" facility.
    They give you a bed, food, clothing, hygene supplies, and whatever else you need.
    I checked myself in there around the beginning of May.
    I only planned on staying there for a week, but ended up staying 3 weeks.
    I finally checked myself out of there yesterday.

    I am in the process of getting on SSI.
    SSI is free money every month for people that are disabled.
    In order for me to get it, I had to convince the shrink I was too psychotic to work.

    I never had any psychotic symptoms (such as seeing things and hearing voices.)
    So I pretended I had them alll.
    I told the shrink (who by the way is a total quack) that I had certain psychotic diagnosis in the past.

    I told him I used to be on zoloft and zyprexa.
    So that's what he gave me.

    That night, I took the zyprexa, and it really messed me up.
    My body was in exruciating discomfort.
    My hart was beating so fast and hard.
    I was walking around in a daze, and had slured speech.
    It was a very painful experience.
    Forunately when I woke up the next morning, I felt better.
    It was the worst experience of my life.
    I decided never to take any antipsychotic crap again.

    So every day for a week, I was tounging the zyprexa.
    The staff saw me put it in my mouth, but I never swallowed.
    The next week, I saw the quack shrink, and told him what happened to me.

    He recommended Haldol.
    It was a time release injection that would last 3-4 weeks.
    I told him I don't need any antipsychotics.
    I was doing fine with the zoloft.

    Next thing I know, he's throwing a tantrum.
    Then he sent me to the program director.
    The program director did everything he can to convince me to take it.
    He said, "just try it out. It's perfectly safe. Pregnant women and children take it. Just try and see what happens."

    Now I'm sitting there, and my intuition kicks in hard.
    I get an extremely strong feeling that I shouldn't take it.

    Now I have to make a dceision.
    Should I listen to my intuition or should I give it a try.
    I thought to myself that everytime I didn't listen to my intuition in the past, I get screwed.
    But my dumbass agreed to go ahead and take the shot anyway.

    I couldn't imagine anything worse than the zyprexa experience.
    But this would turn out to be much worse.
    After a few days, I felt alot of dicomfort from the side affects.
    Then I started getting seizure like symptoms of Tardive Diskinesia.
    It wa so painful.
    It was much worse than what happned to me with the zyprexa.

    I ended up going to the hospital in an ambulance.
    After wating forever in the ER in extreme pain, they finally injected my IV with benedril.
    At that point, alll of the symptoms disappeared.
    The next day I was feeling great.
    The 2 days after that, I was feeling very weak, and went back to the hospital both days.

    The worst thing about this whole situation is that the injection was a time release. It would release the Haldol into my system every day for the next few weeks.

    So 3 times a day for about 2 more weaks I have to take cogentin and benedril to relax my muscled and counter act the effects of the Haldol.

    Because my muscles are relaxed, it has made my body feel very weak.
    I'm too weak to put energy in my moves when dancing, my vocals dont punch as hard, my vision is blurred so I can't read, and worst of all sometimes I get a little scared that all of this is permenant.
    I can't wait till this is all over and I'm back to my regular self.
    It sucks to not be able to read, write, and perform.
    The blurred vision is a pain, but luckilly I'm able to type this post.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    If I understood this post correctly, my advice would be to tell them the truth about never having any psychotic symptoms (if that is the truth).

    Could you maybe provide a little more background?
    It really sounds like you just did this to get out of having to work, and I don;t want to make that assumption.

    If you don't need an anti-psychotic, and take one anyway, it can have some pretty bad side-effects.

    What is really wrong?
    Why did you check in there in the first place?
    Why did you stay 3 weeks?
    Why did you lie about psychotic symptoms?
    What meds have you been on in the past (if any)?
    What effects did they have? (positive and negative)

    What diagnosis (if any) did you have in the past?
    etc.
     
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  5. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    ....But it doesn't feel like "free" money doesn't it?
     
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  7. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    there is no such thing as free money! what made you go to that place in the first place?
     
  8. thinker Registered Senior Member

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    Your motivation to go to a a place like that was? Was it to get free money?
     
  9. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    If I understood this post correctly, my advice would be to tell them the truth about never having any psychotic symptoms (if that is the truth).
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    It really doesn’t affect me in any way if I tell them the truth.
    But I don’t think I’m going to.
    I am not required to take it.
    It was my idiotic choice to let them give it to me in the first place.
    I already told them, I will not take any more antipsychotic drugs.
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    Could you maybe provide a little more background?
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    I’ll give you some background later as to why I checked in there in the first place.
    (Because of my vision and weakness, it takes me longer to reply than usual.)
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    It really sounds like you just did this to get out of having to work, and I don;t want to make that assumption.
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    Of course.
    It’s not an assumption.
    You’re absolutely correct.
    That’s the ultimate objective.

    But that’s not really why I checked in there.
    I am getting my benefits regardless of weather I checked in there or not.
    My first check should arrive in less than 2 weeks.
    They will pay me $550 per month to not work.

    As to why I checked myself in, I’ll give the scoop later.
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    If you don't need an anti-psychotic, and take one anyway, it can have some pretty bad side-effects.
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    Don’t I know it.
    I had to learn that the hard way.
    Now All I can do is pray that it didn’t cause me any permanent damage.
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    What is really wrong?
    Why did you check in there in the first place?
    Why did you stay 3 weeks?
    Why did you lie about psychotic symptoms?
    What meds have you been on in the past (if any)?
    What effects did they have? (positive and negative)
    What diagnosis (if any) did you have in the past?
    etc.
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    Very good questions.
    I’ll elaborate them when I get back this evening.
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    Vortexx:
    ....But it doesn't feel like "free" money doesn't it?
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    Ya the cost could well be my sanity.
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  10. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Ouch , ouch and more OUCH. Free money ended up costing a lot huh?

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  11. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    Bro, don't let them fuck up your mind! Don't take strong medication for something you don't need, you fight fire with fire and you could get burned in another place! .... Now having said the usual disclaimer, you might as well have some good FUN overthere!

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    Some interesting DO's and especially DON'Ts for the scripts you have access overthere....

    Anti-depressants and recreational Drugs FAQ
     
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  12. Flores Registered Senior Member

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    Phsyciatrists are phsyco

    Coolskill,
    you are one crazy dude. Thank god you are okay....You could have died easily.

    I had a similar experience before but I was not going for the money, I had actual problems. 2 years ago, I had to take my professional license engineering exam and it coincided with the birth of my son, things in my life were extremely hectic. Working full time, commuting two hours, taking care of a toddler, breast feeding and pumping milk for a baby, cooking, ect..... Before my exam, I didn't sleep for a whole week and I also was reading a lot of Quran. I finished taking the exam and did very very well, but right after the exam at home I noticed that my nervous system is shutting down. I was hearing slowly, my reaction was extremely slow. My mouse was very very dry, and I was shivering. My husband decided to take care of the children and to drop me at my parents so I can take a much needed nap. As soon as I got to my parents, I got seizurs, and during that time I started hallucinating. My hallucinations were out of this world, like grand achievements and incredible things. I relived the Buddah story for some reason and dreamt that I was Buddah entering the bodies of people. I imajined in heaven 7 pearls revolving and that I was in charge of lifting people to heaven....I dreamt that I've cause Bush to fall and that I'm now president....

    My parents didn't opt for the hospital and stayed with me for four days until I finally was back to normal 8 hours of sleep and my memory and physical strength was back. After that, we made an appointment with a phsyciatrist, who told me after 5 minutes that I'm bipolar manic depressant. I was convinced that what I had is only due to complete stress and lack of sleep. He ordered the physcotic medication and I hate it, Serequel was the first one. He put me on 500 mg, then I cheated and only took 100mg, then down to 50 mg, and I was doing great. When the doctor found out that I'm stopping the medication he ordered me to get on Lithium Serequol and another one. He told me that because I'm speaking back at him that means I'm hiper which means I need more dosage. That day, I told my husband, over my dead body that I will see that creep again. I found a women physcotherapist and she has been great. No medication for me is needed, just one visit every couple of month to talk.
     
  13. Xenu BBS Whore Registered Senior Member

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    Ughh, sounds like a bad experience. Rule #1, don't lie to your docs. They go by what you report to them, they can't run a "brain scan" for mental disorders.
    *shakes finger like a parental figure.

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    I'm sure the money is tempting, but yes you can screw yourself up permanently. I don't want to scare you, but the Tardive Dyskenesia you get from anti-psychotics can be permanent. However, this usually takes extended periods of time to happen.

    SSI isn't really enough to live on of itself, unless you have section 8 housing (or live at home). Also, don't get stuck in a rut. Having too much time on your hands can stimulate disorders in themselves. Uggh, sorry for the lecture, just looking out for you.

    Flores,

    Yes, some psychiatrists suck, some rock. It's a sticky field. A general basis to go by on diagnosing someone that all psychiatrists are supposed to go by is 1) do the person's reported symptoms affect their life to the point that they can't function normally (communicate with others, hold down a job, etc) ? 2) Have these reported symptoms lasted over 6 months? In your case, it seems 1) was present, but 2) wasn't. That doc should have seen that. One large gripe I have about a number of psychiatrists is that they are pulled around by drug companies and keeping their practice afloat, and because so, feel quick to diagnose people.
     
  14. Xenu BBS Whore Registered Senior Member

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    Ohh, as a sidenote. Did you know that Haldol used to be used as an antihistamine. Try that out the next time you start sneezing from pollen!

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  15. Abnak Registered Senior Member

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    I know some one who was given Haldol . Many years ago , he was dealing with vandalism to his car , postal theft and many other kinds of harrassment after moving into a new nieghborhood . On advice from his family to talk to somebody about the stress, he checked into a hospital .

    The Doctor took the position that it was all imaginary and placed this person on powerfull drugs . While dealing with one problem , he now had to deal with a professional that was either corrupt , incompetent or both .

    Emotionally, all is fine now with this person . The damage to his car forced him to become an excellent mechanic and the bad experience he had with this doctor , made him realize that not all doctors are honorable . Life is for learning ...some times the hard way .

    Coolskill , do you place money before self respect ? You sound young indeed .
     
  16. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    I’ve been seeing shrinks since I was 9 years old.
    At age 15, a doctor diagnosed me with dysthymia.
    I believe that this diagnosis perfectly described me.
    I agree with the doctor that I am dysthymic.
    I’ve seen various psychiatrists and therapists since then for my dysthymia.

    In 1999, when I was 22, I decided to try to get the SSI check.
    I wasn’t sure if I could get it with only dysthymia as my diagnosis.
    So I decided to exaggerate my symptoms whenever I met a doctor.
    I never got around to actually getting the SSI.

    Recently I decided to apply for SSI again.
    This time, I would follow through with everything.
    I met with the people at social security.
    I gave them permission to get records from the various shrinks I talked to.
    They had me meet one of their own doctors.
    After a few months, I was approved.
    I expect to get my first check sometime this month.
    I just received a referral today to activate my Medicaid.

    So how did I end up with a shrink that wanted to give me Haldol?

    On april 1st, I applied for food stamps.
    They have this ridiculous rule that in order to receive food stamps, I would have to do 27 hours of volunteer work in order to get my stamps.
    I told them that I was not allowed to work because I was pending for SSI.
    They gave me a form to be signed by my psychiatrist.
    Once I get the form signed, I could get my food stamps.

    The problem was, I hadn’t seen a shrink since 1999.
    To make a long story short, I looked all over the place for a shrink that would sign this form for me right away.
    I couldn’t find one.
    Somebody told me that the best way to see a shrink right away was to check into the hospital ER.
    So that’s what I did.
    I pretended I was suicidal, checked into the ER, and met the shrink.

    The shrink referred me to this program for crazies.
    So I moved in there, and lived there for 3 weeks.
    They provided food, a bed, hygiene supplies, etc.
    I eventually convinced the coordinator to sign the form so I could get food stamps as well.

    So the psychiatrist (who by the way is a total quack) comes to the location every Tuesday to dish out meds to all the crazies.
    He gave me the Zoloft for depression.
    He also gave me Zyprexa for my (fake) psychosis.
    My dumb ass actually took the Zyprexa.
    And that’s how it all happened.

    I really wanted to leave the program before my 1st week, but first the Zyprexa had me screwed up, then the Haldol screwed me up.
    That’s why I ended up staying there longer than I wanted.

    Now I am back home trying to recover from the effects of the Haldol.
    My vision is still blurry, my hands are still shaky when doing delicate tasks, and all the muscles in my body are relaxed so I still feel too weak to do anything.

    I’m just counting the days till the Haldol is out of my system for good.
    I think I have another 2 weeks to go.

    I saw the shrink again this morning, and told him I would no longer take any antipsychotics.
    He got pretty upset, but I’m sure he’ll get over it.

    Basically the main reason I checked in there was:
    First, to get somebody to sign the form for my food stamps.
    Also, I hadn’t seen anybody for my dysthymia so I figured that they would be able to help me.
    So they gave me therapist that I now see 3 times a week.
    I don’t keep any secrets from her.
    She knows the whole story, and it’s completely confidential.
    And she’s also very good, so I’m happy.

    I will soon be getting my check of $500+ dollars every month forever.
    I am now eligible for medicaid so I can now see a doctor for regular check ups.
    I will also get food stamps for the rest of my life.
    I have a great therapist that is doing a very good job helping me overcome my Dysthymia.
     
  17. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    The Thread starter wrote: I never had any psychotic symptoms (such as seeing things and hearing voices.)
    So I pretended I had them alll.
    I told the shrink (who by the way is a total quack) that I had certain psychotic diagnosis in the past.

    You pretended you were seeing and hearing things and it is the shrink who is a quack?

    :bugeye:
     
  18. NightFall Lazy Hedonist Valued Senior Member

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    your doing it all wrong.

    want your money? write a book...
    -shakes head-
    ....the ideas you come up with...

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    hope you're feeling better soon.

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  19. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Coolskill, you either have mega-balls or you are mega-stupid. Or maybe both. Good luck.
     
  20. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks.
    I must be mega-stupid.

    I've done alot of dumb things, but letting them pump me with haldol takes the ice cream and cake.

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    "You pretended you were seeing and hearing things and it is the shrink who is a quack?"
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    The shrink is a quack.
    Whenever I see him he's either reading the news paper or making himself look busy.
    He sits there and does nothing.
    He hardly says anything.
    I ask him all these questions, and he doesn't respond.
    He just sits there reading the rediculous newspaper.
    He's a total quack.
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  21. DCLXVI Bloody Bastard Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds to me like he's done the exact thing you are trying to achive, get money for nothing. Now who's the quack?
     
  22. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    heyya cool skill

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    sounds like you have little self value
    it is one thing to experiment with drugs
    but it is a near death wish to excite the fanceys of psychiatrists

    try and think why it is that motivated them to become psychiatrists in the first place
    the wish to help others and solve thier problems is very admirable but it is unfrtunately the fact that most people psychiatrists included do not have a good handle on thier own problems
    as you can now testafy to
    allot of psychiatrists seek self absolution through absolute
    fact of personal opinion so only consider themselfs to be capable of being correct in most situations
    it is a nasty downward spiral of the mind that they mostly all fall into and from which is only madness or slow recovery
    another issue which escapes most people in that feild and genral public
    if you spend too much time around unstable people you will become less stable
    unless you are like me and already far beyond madness into some form of total mental comfort inside insanitys insane mind of madness

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    start drinking green tea and other liver de-tox natural liquids
    re balance your salts
    monitor your hydration levels carefully and every day
    stay in the band
    and stop talking to any shrinks accept for the women you are currently seing
    and dont eat junk food junk food will only slow your body and stop you from processing the toxins
    increase your vitamin C Iron and magnesseum and zink
    see if you can get a blood test for minerals and then check all your levels
    you may just as likely have a build-up of heavy metals from other food suplys so check that for hyper activation of medication

    and no more psychotropics
    did your mum take you to the doctor as a young child and ask the doctor to diagnose you with something that she could blame for not spending time and effort on raising you correctly

    groove on dude the road ahead is clearing for you

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  23. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, Good luck, Cool Skill. I hope it isn't permanent, but when you mess around with psycho drugs...Honestly..when I first read this I thought you were shitting us :bugeye:

    I'm not clear on one thing, though.. Why exactly did you try to get the SSI if you're capable of working? Is it because you feel that your dythsmia is a real disability - one that the government fails to recognize, or simply because you do not want to work? Maybe I missed the answer to this.
     

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