In retort to a thread labeled I Hate Being a White Male. Snort.

Draco would have you believe he’s a darkling, imbued with the Gothic blood of Chthulu.
Truth is that this boy is just another symptom of White and Fucking Bored.
Klebold and Harris were of the same conformist, virulent strains of White and Fucking Bored.
This brand of white boy is everywhere, and if its not smashing into a wall with his skateboard then its baring his plastic fangs at the dork playing D&D sitting across from him. Fear me!
But no one does, so he bores some more and he’s off to shooting his classmates since nothing screams “Look at me!" louder than shooting people as insignificant as you.
It happened in Thurston, Virginia, California, Paducha, Alaska and most famously Columbine yet I wonder how long it will take for another set of parents to gather their eccentric little white boy lovingly in their arms before dumping him in a hospital, wondering what is “wrong” with this disturbing creep too meek to make friends.
They will stuff him with Xanax and Paxil and Zoloft and all kinds of remedies that will fail to cure him of boredom and insignificance.
He is small, with his body growing at a third of the rate of his brain’s and if he were wise he’d capitalize on it but no- its easier to curl up like a fetus in the school cafeteria and shock people with Manson lyrics and a dog collar.

The problem with White Boy is that the middle class income has left him with surplus time on his hands, and in his clumsy rebellion he is left to exaggerate the smallest transgressions into the Biggest Thing in the Whole Fucking World.
They call him a nerd with a prick as big as his sister’s
He can’t dance, he can’t swim, sing or play basketball and all the jocks sprinkle pepper in his boxers.
He never gets over it because in rebellious years he runs to his friends that he now keeps with a gimmick- "I am not Guthry or Petey now, stop calling me that", he says through clenched teeth. "I am Draco the Goth boy and my new, fancy, arrogant bloodlust has nothing to do with my not being able to cope creatively with my insignificance. Look at these scars, minion, I drink blood! I shall now tell you of my eccentric disillusions."
At this point he will mutilate Nietzsche.

None of the school shooters had potential- which I may add where all white, teenaged and bloody bored. All were driven by the lure of revenge and notoriety because they have clung on to the horrors of high school so hard their nails are bleeding. Again, Mr. Klebold, Mr. Woodham and Mr. Carneal have blown up a spitball into the Biggest Thing in the Whole Fucking World.
If you cannot deal with simple trial every teenager coming to know himself has dealt with for thousands of years... then of what use are you to the adult world?
The White Boy has been breastfeed, spoonfeed and all self esteemed by the ignorance of those conscientious morons he calls parents. He is injected into our world an idiot ready for trampling, and all he needs to finally shut the fuck up, dear reader, is a spanking.


If you can recite the whole 'D' and 'R' section of Bierce’s Dictionary, you’re an angry white boy.
If your hands have contorted to the shape of a keyboard from which you keep a blog about a world gone to shit, you’re an angry white boy.
If you want to cut your life into pieces since this is your last resort, then you are an angry white boy.
If you are losing your sight and losing your mind wishing somebody will tell you you are fine, then you are an angry white boy.
If your rocasea is flaring up at this point, you’re an angry white boy.

The White Boy has been breastfeed, spoonfeed and all self esteemed by the ignorance of those conscientious morons he calls parents. He is injected into our world an idiot ready for trampling, and all he needs to finally shut the fuck up, dear reader, is a spanking.

A spanking?
But will this not make him even more angry, even more eccentric? Will he not shout: "Look, I've been wronged again! This life is not fair! Why do the innocent have to suffer the most?"

Will he not seek refuge in the Old German, proclaiming that a man must first go under to then, in all his greatness, come up, and become the overman?

Will he not, after this spanking, consider himself an overman -- for he has so bravely stood the mean and pernicious tests that cruel life, and even cruelest mother nature have made him go thorugh?

But yes, indeed, I agree. A spanking is the ultimate solution for that boy to become an overman. He already has it all worked out in his ever so quick and responsive mind, all the potential is already there -- he is just waiting for the right moment for the right spanker to come along.

A spanking won't do it.

An execution, however, will.

What does being white have to do with it?

Sorry gendanken but black, asian, and hispanic teenagers all go through the same obnoxious phase. I don’t think that whites are disproportionately irritating during their teens.

Spanking...?
Execution...?

Nahhhh...

Give 'em a tin hat,
And give 'em a gun...

And send 'em all off to the war...

Spanking? Forget that!

Daily beatings with a variety of household items, coupled with evening a morning molestations and....fuq w/ their medication. They'll turn their anger from classmates to society as a whole and become what we all admire in America...Silent Serial Killers (an exclusive club for whites only).

Thank god you don't go in for the whole myopic generalzation thing ;)

So what about those "white boys"? Given, they are probably miserable nerds that crave for acceptance/attention. But how should you change that? Surely, as was said, medication and beatings won´t do a thing. They would then be drugged and maltreated white boys who think they are even less worthy. And perhaps, they will even retaliate with anger and force. (if they are not too weak to lift an arm)

No, the problem might be solved by filling their time with something that increases their selfesteem. As a bonus, it will rid them of their inactivity. Obviously, parents also have to invest more time into their little brats, which means that their lifes will also get less comfortable, something I think they would not be fond of.

But hey, why not kill them, imagine what they will be when they have grown up... And they are annoying, if I think of the little assholes strutting around on the last Black Metal concert I visited... disgusting.

What does being white have to do with it?

Sorry gendanken but black, asian, and hispanic teenagers all go through the same obnoxious phase. I don’t think that whites are disproportionately irritating during their teens.

Well, do you see any threads titled "I hate being a black male!" or "I hate being an Asian male!" or "I hate being a Hispanic male!"??
No.

But there is the thread "I hate being a white male!"
So.

He never gets over it because in rebellious years he runs to his friends that he now keeps with a gimmick- "I am not Guthry or Petey now, stop calling me that", he says through clenched teeth.

Is that some attempt at taking my name in vain?

Well, do you see any threads titled "I hate being a black male!" or "I hate being an Asian male!" or "I hate being a Hispanic male!"??

You're right, we don't. Maybe that's because in North America - particularly the US - those other groups you make mention of label whites as the ones with the hatred. It was only a matter of time before whites started hating themselves too.

What a coincidence. I just got a fortune cookie that told me, "Anyone who makes blanket statements is a fool."

But seriously, and I mean seriously, I have spoken out on this phenomenon many times before, trying to fulfil my duty as an "elder" (61 in a couple of weeks) of this "community."

The white American children who came of age in the 1950s and 1960s had to deal with the horrible discovery that our fathers had deployed nuclear weapons against civilian targets. And we had remarkably little help struggling with that because our fathers simply didn't talk about it.

The muthaz vaporized innocent men, women, and children in a single act of anger, in a fraction of a second, that dwarfed all previous such acts in all of history. And the reason was, basically, because they could. "You see, we got this great new weapon and we figured..."

(Spare me the debate about whether Japan would never have surrendered otherwise so they were really saving lives. And that the aggregate death toll over the span of the entire war was much higher in Tokyo. Just as many armchair historians believe that Hirohito would have eventually not been able to bear the shame of blindly leading his people to their annihilation and would finally have overruled his generals, and the population, including those in uniform, would have stood by his decision. There's no resolution to this debate except to say that if there had been no atom bombs the Allies would still have won, and that was all they really cared about.)

Add to this some other facts that they carefully avoided teaching us in school: Manzanar, Jim Crow, lynchings, the KKK, why America even bothered to take sides in World War I. We barely even touched on slavery. The Civil War was an unfortunate but glorious struggle whose outcome shaped this great country. The Salem witch trials were a Halloween legend. The Korean War began and ended and I didn't even know it was happening.

When we finally started attending university classes in the 1960s and a younger generation of professors felt that it was time we learned the truth, we were overwhelmed by the nasty things that our daddies and granddaddies and great-granddaddies did. And goddammit, here they go starting it right back up again in Vietnam???

This may seem painfully naive to you kids who grew up with full-color TV coverage of every war on the planet, but even learning that the Santa Claus whom we loved so dearly was also a lie added to the list. The inescapable conclusion was that those sweet daddies who had bought us puppies and taught us to ride bicycles were in reality evil, lying bastards.

So we simply disowned them. We wanted nothing to do with them. The media coined a great term for it: The Generation Gap. It was an entire generation of white boys rejecting all traditional masculinity. When we weren't self-medicating that intense pain between our ears with various psychoactive substances, we were discovering that the females of our generation were just as pissed off. Not necessarily over the stuff that was missing from our history books, but over the stuff that was happening to them every single day courtesy of a patriarchal society. Unprosecuted rapes, unavailability of abortion, difficulty getting into schools, not being promoted at work, expectations of being the stay-at-home parent, even plain old extremely uncomfortable and restrictive clothing.

Before long we were allowing ourselves to be initiated into adult life by women instead of men. So we learned to cry and hug and express our feelings. I have a wall full of my own works of needlepoint and I've never handled a football in my life.

This was all great. It really was. Men need to learn how to do those things. The divisions between "male" and "female" behavior norms were extreme and artificial. The world needed this enlightenment.

But then what happened when our generation started having children of their own? Every kid had two mommies. We (speaking for the generation, I have none personally) loved them to death, made them wear helmets on their bicycles, taught them to play nice and take turns, all the stuff that mommies do. But we were unable to teach them most of the stuff that daddies do: situational ethics, sacrificing today for tomorrow or for the next generation, making difficult choices, doing what you know you have to do because the good outweights the bad. Sticking up for each other to create collective strength. (American women in general still don't do that and now we don't either.)

As a result a second generation of boys grew up even further removed from the teachings of their male elders because we had been unable to separate the good from the bad -- the team spirit from the "Whites Only" drinking fountains.

And women did not live through all this unfazed. Everybody needs fathering just like everybody needs mothering. Not having to bear the scars of rejection, mothers actually did their best to fill the gap and provide some fathering. Bless women, they are so much stronger than we are. Some kids managed to grow up in a home with no father or with an effectively invisible father, and they were OK. But most women simply didn't have what it takes to deal with most boys. And providing fathering to their daughters was something that didn't even occur to most of them. There was a secret of nearly sacramental proportions that mothers in a sense didn't really like the stuff that their husbands were teaching their daughters, so omitting it from their training seemed like a great idea. Unfortunately adult women also need to be able to figure out problems in situational ethics and decide when it's appropriate to make sacrifices.

Yadda yadda. People of my generation now have great-grandchildren. This has been going on for four generations. What we've got to show for it is frightening. Corporate leaders who treat their businesses like videogames to walk away from when they get bored. Religious leaders who tell us that the definition of a good man is one who does the right thing when nobody's watching have been humping little boys when nobody was watching. Journalists lie and cheat like sixth-graders. The first President of our generation used the White House as his private love shack, and he looks like a paragon of virtue compared to the second one, who behaves like a retarded thirteen-year-old who will lie as long as he can get away with it and can't foresee the consequences of his own deeds. And a citizenry who lets him get away with it and can't foresee them either.

This is the bequest of my generation to you people. All because we believed that if we continued to let the world be controlled by people like our fathers, it would lead to our destruction.

Maybe we were right. Who can say how things might have been different without the anti-war, environmental, anti-poverty, civil rights, and various other anti-traditional masculinity movements. Would the Cold War have turned hot, with both sides using bombs much more powerful than those two primitive ones we dropped on Japan? Would all our air and water be so filthy that we'd need filters on everything? Would poor people be dying from lack of medical care? Would everyone in power be white and male? Would it still be okay to whip children with a belt for talking back?

If we were right, and that world really would be collossally worse than the one we've got, then I guess we're better off, but it's really depressing. I actually can sympathize with the generals who reached the conclusion that they had to drop the A-bomb: geeze, are we absolutely sure there's not another option that we overlooked? Were we just stupid and selfish?

Or were we just too young to be making that decision? Should we have been good little boys and waited until we were adults and then picked and chosen carefully the elements of traditional masculinity that we wanted to throw away and kept the rest? Could anybody do that? Once you grow up with a way of thinking, it's not easy to adjust it.

Thank the goddess for immigrants. Men in other countries didn't go through what we went through, especially in the countries from which we're getting such a large stream of immigrants these days. Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia. I look into these guys' eyes and I don't see the shame and indecision that I see in ours. They will build America back up, just as immigrants always have. It will be much different. But if my generation was right, it will be better. And that's what counts.

Situational ethics. Sacrificing for the future. Making tough decisions that feel bad no matter which way you choose.

Maybe we really were observing the traditional male duties and just didn't know it.

Anyway, I hope I've given you a much broader perspective on white males. We're not quite as simple as we let on. We're not even quite as simple as we believe we are.

Love you all,
F.R.

Well, do you see any threads titled "I hate being a black male!" or "I hate being an Asian male!" or "I hate being a Hispanic male!"??
No.

But there is the thread "I hate being a white male!"
So.

It seems western society in general has entered a sort of introspective self-effacing phase more so than the others you mentioned. Though this leads to an inordinate amount of self loathing, and bellyaching types I think it is in the long run a good thing.

Well, to solve problems, you should first look for the cause in or near you; and since western society seems to be declining over the years, there must be some problems hidden somewhere. As a result, we are now looking for those problems, some blames themself, others the younger generation and some more blame foreigners.

But ultimately, most find the flaws in the people around them or even in themself, thus all this self loathing.

me personally as a white male blame the white people for neearly everything from ozone destruction, global warming, most violence, and drugs. but only for the reasons that we were the smartest and came up with the things that created these catastrophe's

Fraggle...
Brilliant! post.

I wonder how the philosophers and poets alike will react....




:)

Rosa:
A spanking?
But will this not make him even more angry, even more eccentric? Will he not shout: "Look, I've been wronged again! This life is not fair! Why do the innocent have to suffer the most?"

I was being diplomatic.
I'd rather gut him alive and shove his insides down his throat with my bare hands.
But that's just me....and there was the prospect of getting banned for my grammar.



Will he not seek refuge in the Old German, proclaiming that a man must first go under to then, in all his greatness, come up, and become the overman?

"I am Draco the Goth boy and my new, fancy, arrogant bloodlust has nothing to do with my not being able to cope creatively with my insignificance. Look at these scars, minion, I drink blood! I shall now tell you of my eccentric disillusions."
At this point he will mutilate Nietzsche."

And whatever manicured rebel from the past he can dig up and idolize in his confusion (Spengler, and if he really does his homework- Grant)

Thank god you don't go in for the whole myopic generalzation thing
Fuck off.


Fraggle:
Thank the goddess for immigrants. Men in other countries didn't go through what we went through, especially in the countries from which we're getting such a large stream of immigrants these days. Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia. I look into these guys' eyes and I don't see the shame and indecision that I see in ours. They will build America back up, just as immigrants always have. It will be much different. But if my generation was right, it will be better. And that's what counts.

Situational ethics. Sacrificing for the future. Making tough decisions that feel bad no matter which way you choose.

Maybe we really were observing the traditional male duties and just didn't know it.

Anyway, I hope I've given you a much broader perspective on white males. We're not quite as simple as we let on. We're not even quite as simple as we believe we are
You, I gather, have lived through both world wars. You have seen Vietnam, a cold war, the Haight Ashbury and a quarter of L.A alive with people fighting for freedoms. Yours was an age of momentum, as it was for a Venetian youth in the Renaissance or an American one in colonial times.

This is an age of sterile equilibrium where everyone is made the same and peace is a household guest that's outlived its novelty, expectations run low and boredom runs high.
Therefore, the white male of your day is nothing like the disenfranchised little boy sitting at home with his computer with no identity, no discomfort, no momentum to keep busy.
THUS! he makes his own discomforts and this I gather makes him feel..... pretty.
Akin to Feydeu's play " A Flea in her Ear" where the neglected Madamme Raymmonde prays for an affair in order to have something to fight about.

Ever notice the difference between the Midwestern farmboy too busy with chores and the angry middle classed white boy sitting at home in Detroit reading Mein Kempf?


James R:
What does being white have to do with it?
Nada, nothing, nein.
You are one unqualified idiot.

Nasor:
Sorry gendanken but black, asian, and hispanic teenagers all go through the same obnoxious phase. I don’t think that whites are disproportionately irritating during their teens.
I don't think so.
White boy is obsessed with power. What makes him annoying is his clumsiness in attaining it.

Dreamwalker:
No, the problem might be solved by filling their time with something that increases their selfesteem. As a bonus, it will rid them of their inactivity. Obviously, parents also have to invest more time into their little brats, which means that their lifes will also get less comfortable, something I think they would not be fond of.

That's just it- I feel its the over-mothering, pampering and adolescent breastfeeding that is propagating White Boy’s neoteny.
How many middle classed mothers do we see on Dr. Phil’s stage bawling their eyes out, confused by little Billy or Guthrey who keeps getting in trouble?
All of these mothers are white and fucking suffocating- its amazing to me they cannot see this.
My mother is a drama queen and I remember my hate for her being directly proportional to her ignorance displayed by her pitiful inability to define what I was.
Its this pitiful insistence on the part of the mother, specifically, to intrude on her little boy she cannot understand, and what is worse is her intrusions are little more than psychiatrists and psychologists exploiting another's misfortunes.

These people don't know what to do with their kids or their money, so they pay psychiatrists to help little Billy with his manicured rebellions.
IDIOTS..

Fireguy:
fuq w/ their medication. They'll turn their anger from classmates to society as a whole and become what we all admire in America...Silent Serial Killers (an exclusive club for whites only).
Wrong, Simplicio.
The silent serial killer is, was, and always will be a vindictive Woman.
Sleep with eyes open.

Interesting point. A spanking. Is that what's needed? I wonder.

I wasn't a goth. But, I was in many respects this white boy as a teenager. Insignificance, lack of respect, boredom. Yes. All these things were part of it. Would a spanking really solve the problem?

What is needed is a way to make them significant. To show them rather than merely telling them that they are something worthy of respect. A part of a greater whole. And to show them the responsibilities that they must accept in order to gain respect.

In more primitive societies, there is a coming of age. The boys are taken off and initiated into the rites of the men. The boys are made men and shown their importance. Included within the group. In many groups, it is at this point that the boys move away from the women and move in to the men's hut. They are men. With a man's responsibilities. They are not bored and they are not insignificant.

So, it could be an aspect of our educational system that causes this. The learning that goes on so long. Till long after manhood has been reached. Insignificant for a good portion of the prime of life.

So, why white boys? Why don't the other races get in on this? And, the trend is almost unique to the middle class white boy. All you who are denying it are denying the reality in front of your face. So, why? I feel it is because the other races have racism to contend with. They feel trod upon and united with their group by this downtrodding. White boys have no similar group to bond with. It is their group that trods upon them. That makes them insignificant.

What is so interesting about this trend is how some make it through and some don't. Why? Why do some lose their grip and get a gun a shoot up the school. While others just suck it up and eventually move on to significance? Or at least more significance than utter insignificance? There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. But, there must be something. Must be.

Is it that the ones who make it through are spanked and the ones who don't, aren't? Is it just random chance in which group the boy joins in which he seeks significance? Some combinations of personalities create an evil that wouldn't be there alone. They feed off each other, encourage each other to greater heights of delusion and grandeur.

None of the school shooters had potential

Is that true? I know that many of the boys that do fall into these ways are the ones with potential. Many eschew their potential as just another hypocrisy of the world. Another lure and bait to more insignificance.

Give 'em a tin hat,
And give 'em a gun...

And send 'em all off to the war...

Sounds like an initiation ritual. Unfortunately, the crisis comes much sooner. Unless we are to have child soldiers...?

Thank god you don't go in for the whole myopic generalzation thing

Or course, it's a bit of a generalization. There are some that break the rules, but you must admit that on the whole it is true.

No, the problem might be solved by filling their time with something that increases their selfesteem. As a bonus, it will rid them of their inactivity.

Something that the Germans knew quite well. Hitler used this aspect of the youth to incorporate them into his schemes. Are youth organizations still as prevalent in Germany today, Dreamwalker? I've heard that the youth group wasn't new to Hitler, he merely coopted structures that were already in place.

This does bring up an interesting possibility. That this angst is in fact merely the evolutionary means of incorporating a teen (almost an adult) into the society at large. It is a crying out for significance and responsibility. It demands of the parents and society that the youth be accomodated. Unfortunately, our society is a lazy one and it's someone else's problem to fix the kids. Even your own kids.

Situational ethics. Sacrificing for the future. Making tough decisions that feel bad no matter which way you choose.

Maybe we really were observing the traditional male duties and just didn't know it.

Very interesting stuff, Fraggle. Always love your posts.

Therefore, the white male of your day is nothing like the disenfranchised little boy sitting at home with his computer with no identity, no discomfort, no momentum to keep busy.

I wonder. This does seem to be the case. But don't we always hold our generation as different than any other that came before? That now at last we have arrived. The whole world has led to this, our emminent arrival upon the scene. And now here we are and no one has felt as insignificant and bored as we. Our feelings of ennui are far more powerful than any that have gone before. And the doom that hangs over our heads is far more real than the doom that hung over any other's heads.

Of course, there is an element of truth to this that can't be denied. The technology of the age has made things so easy. Transportation, entertainment, education, everything we want is at our fingertips. And, it turns out that there's nothing we want. Things just don't taste good unless they are denied, therefore we turn to the macabre. To the darkness of demons and bloodlettings. And even then, the situation pales. For we find that even in this we are catered to. That there is a store specifically marketed towards whatever form of 'rebellion' you care to name.

Once they cried out that the revolution will be televised. Now it will not only be televised, it will be mass-produced, packaged, and sold. Just for you. In a store near you. Hell, you can order right off the net if you don't want to go to the mall with out your 'look' already manufactured and ready.

Fuck off.


Lol, just telling it like it is Gendanken, if you can't see that then you truly don't have the right to call anyone else an idiot.

On the whole, people ought to do more handiwork. I really mean this.
It is good for the brain that it deals with practical things. I hate it when I see city people unable to even sew on a button! There is a bragger, a white boy, knows everything about Nietzsche and computers -- and he can't cook lunch or clean the sink!
Life is too easy for those, this is why they vent their energy doing stupid things.

Something that the Germans knew quite well. Hitler used this aspect of the youth to incorporate them into his schemes. Are youth organizations still as prevalent in Germany today, Dreamwalker? I've heard that the youth group wasn't new to Hitler, he merely coopted structures that were already in place.

Well, there are still youth organizations, mostly run by churches and few by the state or the cities. But on the whole, less teenagers participate in those groups because they are uncool or not trendy, something like that. As a result, you see more teens hanging out on the streets, getting drunk or high while listening to techno, rap or pop music and lamenting their boredom aswell as the fact that society sucks...

But hey, they could choose otherwise, alas they don´t.

But hey, they could choose otherwise, alas they don´t.

Could they really choose otherwise?

If we agree with the principle of causality, then Z was caused by Y, Y was caused X, X by W, W by V -- in human terms this means that one decision leads to another.
In effect, it is the parents who make the first choices for a child, and the choices a child can make depend on the previous choices of the parents.
We aren't nearly as free as we would like to think ourselves to be.

It is the parents who screw up their children, spoiling them and neglecting them at the same time. Children then have to fix the mistakes the parents did.

This:

more teens hanging out on the streets, getting drunk or high while listening to techno, rap or pop music and lamenting their boredom aswell as the fact that society sucks...

is the result of people swearing that "everything is relative" and that "truth is irrelevant".

"I am Draco the Goth boy and my new, fancy, arrogant bloodlust has nothing to do with my not being able to cope creatively with my insignificance. Look at these scars, minion, I drink blood! I shall now tell you of my eccentric disillusions."
At this point he will mutilate Nietzsche."

Yes, I was just making your point again, agreeing with it.


THUS! he makes his own discomforts and this I gather makes him feel..... pretty.

A couple of lines from an old Smashing Pumpkins song comes to mind -- "Suffer":
All that you suffer is all that you are
All that you smother is all that you are
And you're saying you're seeing, you're saying who you are
What takes meaning is cleaning the meaning of who you are

I am aware of that, and also of the educational shortcomings, as I pointed out some posts earlier.
Alas, those I-don´t-give-a-fuck-teens that litter the streets and parks could go and do something about their demise. But they don´t, and they do not care, not only because their parents failed to educate them, also because their community, or group drags them down. Not all can be blamed on the parents, there is also blame on the enviroment, and of course the media. All those wars and misery that is covered in the news makes the people feel depressed. And their inability to change something leads them to such behaviour.
But still, they could stand up and do something, especially as a group. But no, they rather dramatize their lifes and go on complaining, since it is much easier this way.
The youths are not innocents, perhaps they had to suffer some inconveniences during their education and upbringing, still they could try to do something instead of wallowing in self pity.

Ah yes... the Bored White Goth Kids... an interesting specimen:

Their habitats include their personal space known as a room, dark alleyways, parties that tend to have an unusual amount of psychotic drugs, the chair in front of their computer in their room. Upon observation, one may notice that they partake in a variety of behaviours. On this "computer" which seems to be a satisfying substance to them, they tend to gather in depressive groups known as "blog forums" or "blog sites" ( ex: www.deadjournal.com) where they spill out insignificant personal dilemmas and then "hook up" with people who share similar insignificant dilemmas. THey often use sentences like "no one knows how I feel" or "no one understands me" even though they are among thousands of others with the same insignificant dilemma. The local ones tend to pool in a sea of smoke from various hallucinogens, discussing their insignificant dilemmas, their latest hallucinations and how no one understands them. They have a dendency to complain about how no one understands then and about their dislike for other people/groups. Many seem to dislike black skinned species of humans yet they tend to dress in black, dark purple and dark red. an interesting folk they are...



Some of my cousins happen to be the bored white kids. Their computer is their God. Nothing is ever right.



The factor for almost all of them are two parents with full time jobs who live in the sub urbs. Their parents never got them involved in any sports or hobbies when they were young. THeir parents don't encourage them to succeed. Their kids were raised in front of the TV. NOw, the kids are good at nothing, have no ambitions and think that the world is out to get them.

I find that there are people like this in other races too. What about the "gangstas" who wear FUBU clothes 10 sizes too big for them. THey bask in their hatred of white people who are out to get them. they are good at nothing and are going nowhere. They just happen to shoot people outside of school.

I think they grow out of it. Sometimes it is too late. I find that many of them are a few developmental stages behind their superior peers. They become stuck in inferior groups. I think they eventually live in the real world and see what living really is. How many 30-year old goths have you seen? Not many. what happened to the 18-year old goths thast lived 10 years ago? THey pump my gas and sell me clothes. Theyu grew out of it. Some might og on to do good things. They just have to grow up and face reality.

Path:
Lol, just telling it like it is Gendanken, if you can't see that then you truly don't have the right to call anyone else an idiot.
The whole world is my toilet and I have every right to take a shit in it.


Vert:
So, why white boys? Why don't the other races get in on this? And, the trend is almost unique to the middle class white boy. All you who are denying it are denying the reality in front of your face. So, why? I feel it is because the other races have racism to contend with. They feel trod upon and united with their group by this downtrodding. White boys have no similar group to bond with. It is their group that trods upon them. That makes them insignificant.

Is it that the ones who make it through are spanked and the ones who don't, aren't?
Can't you see that middle classed boredom has a tendency to soften both genders? Each white boy, therefore, is being raised by two mothers.

"These people don't know what to do with their kids or their money, so they pay psychiatrists to help little Billy with his manicured rebellions."

Ilikesalt:
Their habitats include their personal space known as a room, dark alleyways, parties that tend to have an unusual amount of psychotic drugs, the chair in front of their computer in their room. Upon observation, one may notice that they partake in a variety of behaviours. On this "computer" which seems to be a satisfying substance to them, they tend to gather in depressive groups known as "blog forums" or "blog sites" ( ex: www.deadjournal.com) where they spill out insignificant personal dilemmas and then "hook up" with people who share similar insignificant dilemmas. THey often use sentences like "no one knows how I feel" or "no one understands me" even though they are among thousands of others with the same insignificant dilemma. The local ones tend to pool in a sea of smoke from various hallucinogens, discussing their insignificant dilemmas, their latest hallucinations and how no one understands them. They have a dendency to complain about how no one understands then and about their dislike for other people/groups. Many seem to dislike black skinned species of humans yet they tend to dress in black, dark purple and dark red. an interesting folk they are...

Great post.

By the way, I did random searches of Dead Journal, here are some journals that I found completely at random. These people seem really bored, depressed and happen not to be good at anything. They can't even spell properly!

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/pesmistc_lobstr/

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/nikoshi/

This one is a classic:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/drakerain/

Gotta love the cheap teen poems:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/dothtml/

Shut the FUCK UP:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/tali/



What is the solution to these teen disasters?

A spanking won't do it.

An execution, however, will.


I was going to say a merciless beating that every other race is subject to but then you beat me to it. ;)

Salt:
By the way, I did random searches of Dead Journal, here are some journals that I found completely at random. These people seem really bored, depressed and happen not to be good at anything. They can't even spell properly!

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/pesmistc_lobstr/

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/nikoshi/

This one is a classic:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/drakerain/

Gotta love the cheap teen poems:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/dothtml/

Shut the FUCK UP:

http://www.deadjournal.com/users/tali/



HA!

*hand to forehead*

i feel like im drifting away
away from all that i used to be
i dont know if i quite miss it
i guess ill just have to wait and see

*eyes shifting to ensure people are watching*

Shut the fuck up, Tyler. Yet another name common to the white, angry girlboy.
ILikesalt, you're a godsend.

What is the solution to these teen disasters?
Bubonic plague.

Seriously, I still say suffocating mothers (and this means both of them) are culprit.
"Middle classed boredom has a tendency to soften both genders. Each white boy, therefore, is being raised by two mothers."

Southstar:
I was going to say a merciless beating that every other race is subject to but then you beat me to it.
How about sticking him on a farm or a granja to pick strawberries?

"Ever notice the difference between the Midwestern farmboy too busy with chores and the angry middle classed white boy sitting at home in Detroit reading Mein Kempf?"

Hey, I like those emoticons that can be found on ILikesSalts links. They really show how deep and depressive those people are.

http://piktures.deadjournal.com/mood/kaobunnie/kao29.gif
http://piktures.deadjournal.com/mood/kaobunnie/kao4.gif

Anyway, I would assume that our modern "western" society has too much space for unproductive behaviour. Especially if you think that you are a depressed but nonetheless enlightened artist/poet that is ignored by the world.

Southstar:

How about sticking him on a farm or a granja to pick strawberries?

"Ever notice the difference between the Midwestern farmboy too busy with chores and the angry middle classed white boy sitting at home in Detroit reading Mein Kempf?"

How Dare You! :mad:

Don't you know that precious little Timmy, even though he's 21 and still living with mommy might be psychologically scarred if he's ever "exposed" to this sort of life?

Doctor Phil, that king of stupid quacks (did I mention he's white..), said on the show the other day that it is best to give Timmy positive reinforcement because kids who don't get what they want grow up with emotional problems..

Now let's go pack him a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for him and his Counter Strike playing friends. :m:

Hey, I like those emoticons that can be found on ILikesSalts links. They really show how deep and depressive those people are.

Anyway, I would assume that our modern "western" society has too much space for unproductive behaviour. Especially if you think that you are a depressed but nonetheless enlightened artist/poet that is ignored by the world.


Dreamwalker, please be kind.

These kids are simply "misunderstood". Their poetry and Evanescence CD helps them understand that everyone is out to get them and they are "going under".

PLEASE SHIELD YOUR EYES:


http://suprmchaos.com/jack-osbourne_110603.jpg


When white boys take drugs, they are only 'experimenting'. When anyone else takes drugs, they are hardened criminals who can't be "fixed".

I think that little 21 year old Timmy should be thrown out of the house, forcing him to do something productive. Of course, he can choose to die of starvation. :D

But somehow I would say that something has gone awry in his education and upbringing.

EDIT: Damn, did you have to link that picture? *goes away to vomit* :D

Southstar:
When white boys take drugs, they are only 'experimenting'. When anyone else takes drugs, they are hardened criminals who can't be "fixed".
Good point.
Good fucking point.

Timmy does ecstasy and special k.
He drinks cat piss, kills hamsters and wears black Wet n' Wild lipstick.
The boy can be found haunting cemetaries with a copy of Anne Rice forcing a weakling to drink blood but he's only experimenting!
No he's not.
Yes he is.
No he's not.
Yes he is.
No he's not.

All that energy spent fussing over a confused little boy who has an exact analogue in the Negro, Hispanic, Asiatic, Inuit, and Aboriginal family.
The Black or Chinese youth is relegated to juvi or neglected.
But the white little worm is suffocated into something far more twisted than he already is.

Doctor Phil, that king of stupid quacks (did I mention he's white..), said on the show the other day that it is best to give Timmy positive reinforcement because kids who don't get what they want grow up with emotional problems..

No, they send him away to space camp.
Or fat camp.
Any camp able to do reconcile their parent’s ineptitude with their fear of dealing with this disturbing creep directly:

"My father worried vaguely about my troubles but did little about them, being a withdrawn and bookish man himself. His line was medieval literature, which he taught at Yale…....Sometimes he mad fumbling efforts to engage me in ball-throwing and similar outdoor exercises. This had little effect, since he really hated exercise, sport, and the outdoors as much as I did, and was as clumsy and uncoordinated as I. Several times I resolved to force myself through a regular course of exercise to make myself into a young Tarzan....."- Sprague de Camp

Poor Timmy, and Tyler, and Petey, and Guthry, and Draco the GothBoy and every last "misunderstood" mound of pigshit on the planet.
Get a job.

For amusement:

Prayer to the Dark Mother
By Columbine


Come dance with us upon the bones of naive fancies grasped too soon
The pulsing ruby glow that shines from Your wild eyes that never close
Shall be our guide, lead us away from weed-choked lands where nothing grows
We've placed our faith in empty ghosts,
Your roaring chant drives them away
Believed in words that sounded sweet,
Your stamping feet grind them to clay
One thing we ask we ask Your mighty heart, that as You rip away our lies....

"Ever notice the difference between the Midwestern farmboy too busy with chores and the angry middle classed white boy sitting at home in Detroit reading Mein Kempf?"
One is buff, tanned, healthy looking, likes life, has experienced sex (and not with the farm animals but with a girl or his left hand), doesn't have a car and is not given one when he turns 18 so he must either work for it outside of the farm or drive the father's car or tractor, dreams of what could be while doing the chores (eg. dreams of becoming the middle/upper class white boy sitting in front of the computer instead of shovelling manure out of the barn), must work for every little cent because parents too poor to give him a proper allowance, grows his own weed, is given a new shovel for his birthday and thinks its wonderful.

The other is skinny, white, pasty looking, greasy hair, with spartial facial hair and zits that he hasn't had the time to squeeze as yet, sullen, moody, still gets his allowance from mother and father if he takes the garbage out, waits for mother and father to buy him a car when he turns 18, dreams of what could be (eg. of how it would be if that blonde bombshell at school/work/up the road would only look at him... and then dreams of what it would be like to skin said girl), buys his weed and thinks he's tough because of it, is given a new computer for his birthday and thinks its crap because it's not as good as the one his friend Tyler has.

All that energy spent fussing over a confused little boy who has an exact analogue in the Negro, Hispanic, Asiatic, Inuit, and Aboriginal family.
The Black or Chinese youth is relegated to juvi or neglected.
But the white little worm is suffocated into something far more twisted than he already is.
Well said.

Don't you know that precious little Timmy, even though he's 21 and still living with mommy might be psychologically scarred if he's ever "exposed" to this sort of life?

Doctor Phil, that king of stupid quacks (did I mention he's white..), said on the show the other day that it is best to give Timmy positive reinforcement because kids who don't get what they want grow up with emotional problems..

Okay, I take the problem is clear. But how can these kids be helped?
They didn't bring themselves into the mess they are in all by themselves, it was originally their parents pampering them.

If these kids, weak as they are, would now be made to work hard -- I think that most of them couldn't take it, and would indeed end up seriously psychologically scarred. Having these kids work hard and stand up for themselves is the same as putting an untrained person to the course and have them run 6 miles: they will break down, likely with serious injuries.

Yes, Dr. Phil may be a quack -- and he is basically fixing the upper deck while the ship is sinking: But what can one really do?

How are these angry white boys to be made fit?

What effective training methods do you suggest to fix the damage done by pampering parents?

What could these kids do to help themselves, whom can they turn to?


(Einstein: Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them.)

Let's face it, these kids are bored. The only amusement they can find is to sit and gawk at their computer screens, take drugs and feel cool about it and party with their friends who are in the same situation. All of this sprouts anger and hatred toward the real world. They are living a false existence. Since their parents struggle in their middle class jobs, trying to got a better pool table than their neighbour's, their kids seek attention and amusement elsewhere.

Have you ever seen a goth athlete? dignitary? professional? I think sending these kids to space camp, karate, computer graphics camp, little league, hockey practice or dance lessons when they are young would help them out. Once they find something they like and is at least semi-constructive, they will build work ethic, strengths and social skills. The parents must initiate this at a young age. I think internet use shoudl be limited to a young teenager. Chat lines, MSN, Blogs, teen poetry sites and goth sites can become quite addictive to a young one. Then that individual and all their friends collectively become the internet's definition of cool. THe danger starts at that point.

I agree salts above post. Although not a word I particularly like, 'N00b' pretty much sums up the ethos of these types.

Oh, just a quick rant. I hate nigs who use the phrase 'white boy' as some kind of insult. If my culture is polluted anymore I swear I will take a biochem degree just to make that virus. By the way, I reserve the word nigger to refer only to sub-cutural blacks, the kind of ones who refer to themselves as niggers.

The other is skinny, white, pasty looking, greasy hair, with spartial facial hair and zits that he hasn't had the time to squeeze as yet, sullen, moody, still gets his allowance from mother and father if he takes the garbage out, waits for mother and father to buy him a car when he turns 18, dreams of what could be (eg. of how it would be if that blonde bombshell at school/work/up the road would only look at him... and then dreams of what it would be like to skin said girl), buys his weed and thinks he's tough because of it, is given a new computer for his birthday and thinks its crap because it's not as good as the one his friend Tyler has.

Funny, kind of resembles me in part! (Except that I have a social life to some degree and have given up drugs)

Have you ever seen a goth athlete? dignitary? professional? I think sending these kids to space camp, karate, computer graphics camp, little league, hockey practice or dance lessons when they are young would help them out. Once they find something they like and is at least semi-constructive, they will build work ethic, strengths and social skills. The parents must initiate this at a young age.

Sure. But what to do when the damage is already done?
What to do with those that are 18 *now* and need to become fit *now*?

For example, take that boy (?) in the picture earlier in this thread -- what can he do to "make something of himself"?
For him, it may already be too late to go to camps, do sports -- he is not able to face those challenges in a healthy and creative manner, by now, he is much too used to doing ... whatever nothing it is that he is doing.

Well, you can still kill him.

Or make a rock/pop star out of him, or a social worker (hah only kidding :D)

I think that when the person is already 18, they should be put into the workplace. Most workplaces will force them to dress in more formal attire. It will also introduce them to some kind of social life that is outside their realm. THey eventually have to grow up and face the real world. The best way to is not to feed them their internet connection. I think they should pay for their room & internet connection to their parents. Eventually, they can be encouraged to go to college or take some kind fo education to get a job that will allow them to move out while living with some money to spend on liesure.

I think that when the person is already 18, they should be put into the workplace.

In my country, there aren't enough work places not even for the adults, much less for the unskilled and untrained youngsters.

That's too bad that you live in a country that is in that state fo joblessness. Where you live, maybe the young people can volounteer somewhere or take part of some type of recreational group. They could join a chess club or something.

I would go mad (more mad) if I had nothing to do.

I think that when the person is already 18, they should be put into the workplace. Most workplaces will force them to dress in more formal attire. It will also introduce them to some kind of social life that is outside their realm. THey eventually have to grow up and face the real world. The best way to is not to feed them their internet connection. I think they should pay for their room & internet connection to their parents. Eventually, they can be encouraged to go to college or take some kind fo education to get a job that will allow them to move out while living with some money to spend on liesure.


I was delivering newspapers at 12 years old and at 15 investing my money in IBM shares!

Where you live, maybe the young people can volounteer somewhere or take part of some type of recreational group. They could join a chess club or something.

That's the thing: having no choice but to devote yourself to things that won't pay you any money -- unless you have a talent for something, that sort of devotion is hard to accomplish. One may just as well give in to drugs and bad poetry.
Solving the problem of "white angry boys" is far more complex than most would like.

Gendanken, you put what I've said for years into a much more eleoquent form than I could. Do you mind if I post it in my livejournal? Haha, kidding. But you leave the white girls out, who are equally ugly. I know more girls that fit your description of the angry white boy, than I do angry white boys who match said description.

Minor detail: You said all those school shootings were perpetrated by whites. Not so. The school shooting in Bethel, Alaska (which was the second of such in the US), was perpetrated by Evan Ramsey, a half breed native. He claims he was sexually abused in foster homes. He hadn't much of a father (an ex-con himself), and no real family. Still, Bethel must be quite a boring shithole. Weed's expensive out that far– cheaper to huff gasoline.

Fraggle Rocker, that was a beautiful illustation of white boy's dilemma. Truly excellent. It brought tears to my eyes, girly man that I am.

This problem of the white middle class perpetrating crimes is because this generation, and the past, has NOTHING to struggle against. Communisms' broke, terrorisms' a joke, the sixties and its ideals died 20 years ago. No world wars, no causes, no great injustices, no threat, no hope, just ageism and self-worship.
We (my middle class) have no ideals, except the almighty dollar, with which to follow. We're cynical, lazy, and well payed. We live long, and bitch longer. We're greed incorporated; we've disenfranchised ourselves.

So what's the middle class to do? Get angry. Look at the gangsta culture middle class black Tyrone gets to play.
Look at 90's culture. Fight Club, Falling Down. Movies about white man lashing out, because white middle class Timmy works 8 hours in a box.

An angry white passenger on a jumbo jet several years ago (in the 90's) went berzerk and attacked his fellow passengers. He may have been drinking. He was stomped to death. True story, and the details never really came out. From how Newsweek portrayed it [insert:mediabash/end], the incident seemed to relate to how angry whiteboy was about nothing. Nothing but boredom and purposelessness is frustrating indeed.
Anyone remember the man clubs of the 90's? Get together with Larry and Dick, paint yourself naked and hoot around a campfire?
At least now we have Saddam bin Laden to bomb. Something not-so-new and always needed.

Middleclass whiteboy is emasculated. It's self-mutilation. Who's to pass up supersized fries and 8 cylinder compensation? Humankind won't give itself obstacles, we'll always take the low road. Whiteboy happens to be the first in recent history to realize such. We need a war. We need a draft. An obstacle.

Blue Uk:
Oh, just a quick rant. I hate nigs who use the phrase 'white boy' as some kind of insult. .

And who exactly are the 'nigs'?

IlikeSalt:
I think that when the person is already 18, they should be put into the workplace. Most workplaces will force them to dress in more formal attire. It will also introduce them to some kind of social life that is outside their realm. THey eventually have to grow up and face the real world. The best way to is not to feed them their internet connection. I think they should pay for their room & internet connection to their parents. Eventually, they can be encouraged to go to college or take some kind fo education to get a job that will allow them to move out while living with some money to spend on liesure.
But its not only the internet that is culprit.
You speak as if its the online time that keeps him from the offline.

The biggest most annoying prick was immortalized in Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye"- published in 1951. That's more than 30 years before the world's first home computer.
With Holden he captures the sloppy, lazy, haughty, and perfectly spoiled insolence common to the white boy who cannot stand his small shoes and insignificant skin.


Rosa:
For example, take that boy (?) in the picture earlier in this thread -- what can he do to "make something of himself"?

That boy is Jack Osborne.
His father, a famous rock star that I myself have smashed to.

That boy will not, cannot, EVER make something of himself so long as he continues breastfeeding.
That's all our white middle class breeds- wealthy or well to do rebellious little boys too busy breastfeeding that its taken ambition and put it to sleep.

(aside: I don't really hate white boys. This thread is only a spoof of the one labeled "I hate being a white male"- he doesn't know why he hates it, so I'm being.....~helpful~.)(ha)

Oh, just a quick rant. I hate nigs who use the phrase 'white boy' as some kind of insult.
And yet you use the term 'nig' or 'nigger' as some form of insult. What goes around comes around white boy.

If my culture is polluted anymore I swear I will take a biochem degree just to make that virus.
Lovely. Polluted how?

Tell me something white boy, do you plan to make that virus to wipe out the white people for allowing their culture to be polluted, or the 'niggers' for polluting your culture?

The apartheid regime would have loved you white boy, because they had tried to create a virus to wipe out the natives. Maybe you should ask some of the angry white men, many of whom who are in jail in South Africa, for their notes about that virus. :rolleyes:

By the way, I reserve the word nigger to refer only to sub-cutural blacks, the kind of ones who refer to themselves as niggers.
So? You don't think it's some kind of insult anyway to do so? And what pray tell do you classify as being 'sub-cultural' white boy? And why do you just refer to them as 'nigger' white boy? Why don't you to walk up to someone you deem to be 'sub-cultural' and call them a nigger? Or could it be white boy that you just like to feel tough by referring to them as 'nigger' when hanging out with your pimply white boy friends?

Funny, kind of resembles me in part! (Except that I have a social life to some degree and have given up drugs)
I know it does.


Sure. But what to do when the damage is already done?
What to do with those that are 18 *now* and need to become fit *now*?

That's when mummy and daddy step in to pay for therapy and the personal trainer.

I think that when the person is already 18, they should be put into the workplace. Most workplaces will force them to dress in more formal attire. It will also introduce them to some kind of social life that is outside their realm. THey eventually have to grow up and face the real world. The best way to is not to feed them their internet connection. I think they should pay for their room & internet connection to their parents. Eventually, they can be encouraged to go to college or take some kind fo education to get a job that will allow them to move out while living with some money to spend on liesure.
The issue though Salt, is that these kids problems arise much earlier than that. These kids are spoiled brats from their birth. They are given what they want, when they want. They've never had to work at any time for any thing. They rarely have to do chores around the house to earn their allowance, they don't have to work when they could, for example delivering the paper or working in a burger joint to earn their money. They are bred lazy.

The mentality of the 'white boy' is already in place before they turn 18. Instead of the parents just giving them everything, they should be made to work around the house for their allowance, forced to find a job when they are in their early teens to teach them some sort of work ethic, to teach them that life is not easy and that you have to work to get what you want. If they can't find work, then forcing them into volunteer programs to not only teach them a work ethic, but also to make them work for their allowance. Such actions should be taken well before the child turns 18. That would be a good start. We can blame the 'white boy' for being the way he is, but we should also blame the white boy's parents for bringing him up this way.

Tell me something white boy, do you plan to make that virus to wipe out the white people for allowing their culture to be polluted, or the 'niggers' for polluting your culture?

The apartheid regime would have loved you white boy, because they had tried to create a virus to wipe out the natives. Maybe you should ask some of the angry white men, many of whom who are in jail in South Africa, for their notes about that virus
*chuckle*
I've got a virus in mind- two in fact. One a herpes complex called "Job" the other a spirochet named "Responsibilitus" type A. Wipe them out cold

Keep an eye open white boy, I'm injecting both of them in your mama's milk.

He can?t dance

Of course they can't dance nigger boy... that's the darkie's job!

Let me ask you a question, shitskin... why do you think we allow you niggers to live? Why do you think we haven't committed genocide every single one of you fecal-colored, ape-eared, yellow-eyed, blue-gummed, boot-lipped, pubic-hair headed, long-limbed, knuckle-walking, ghetto-monkey, flat-nosed, hump-assed, sub-simian, illiterate, low-IQ yard-apes yet? The answer, boy, is because you entertain us. We keep niggers around so that they may entertain their White masters, and take our minds off the important daily business of running the world and having the White man's burden. Why do you think there are so many niggers in the NBA? We put jigaboos together, toss them a ball, and watch them chase each other.

Niggers and dancing is a long tradition, that goes back to the good old days of slavery. Back then, niggers would be singin' and happily picking cotton. Then at night they'd all dance to entertain their massa. Their White massa would sit back and be entertained by watching the niggers dance for him, and of course he didn't dance himself because that was something for niggers to do in order to entertain their massa. Time has passed, but things haven't changed much. The shitskins are still here to dance for us. Why do you think there are so many of you chimps in the music industry? It's the niggers place to be shucking and jiving for Humans.

Remember boy, it's YOU who are here to entertain US. Dance boy, dance like your life depends on it! Because it does. Sang and dance for your master!

Crack:
Let me ask you a question, shitskin... why do you think we allow you niggers to live? Why do you think we haven't committed genocide every single one of you fecal-colored, ape-eared, yellow-eyed, blue-gummed, boot-lipped, pubic-hair headed, long-limbed, knuckle-walking, ghetto-monkey, flat-nosed, hump-assed, sub-simian, illiterate, low-IQ yard-apes yet? The answer, boy, is because you entertain us. We keep niggers around so that they may entertain their White masters, and take our minds off the important daily business of running the world and having the White man's burden. Why do you think there are so many niggers in the NBA? We put jigaboos together, toss them a ball, and watch them chase each other.

I'm not black you idiot.

If you just signed up barely seconds ago just for this thread, you're the biggest, stoopidest nigger in here.

Ha!
Catch a clue.

You're as good as a nigger, boy. When it comes time you'll be lynched beside the niggers.

Wow CrackerBoy, you're so fucking witty. Let me guess. Searching the net for white boy brought you here. If you read the thread you might learn that it's not about racism. It's about a trend in our culture. One which middle class white boys suffer from. Columbine ring any bells?

By the way, your KKK lovin' ass would most likely lynch the white boys that you are erroneously trying to defend. How do you feel about Goths? Hmm? Care to invite one to dinner? Let him fuck your sister and drink your blood?

If you just signed up barely seconds ago just for this thread, you're the biggest, stoopidest nigger in here.

Tou know he did. He saw the phrase I Hate White Boys and that's all she wrote. I bet he didn't even make it two words in to your post.

Yeehaw!!! Let's hang us a nigger-lover!!

Cracker, you represent the people that we are ranting about. Is there a solution to your problem? I think that's what we are trying to find out.

I could have easily fallen into the middle class void. My parents caught that early. Now, I am aiming for a scholarship on hockey. I work at the local library for all my luxuries. I am going to go to University to become a high school teacher... I will teach white boys and white chicks. Damn, that's gonna be a great job!

I had the unfortunate experiencs of having to read Catcher in the Rye. That book makes me sick. Everyone in the classroom kept saying "he is so much like me" and "I see myself in him". On my demand essay regarding the book, I wrote the whole essay about how the book festers in the lazy, spoiled middle-class culture because it encourgaes goths to be lazy and kids to side-track. It's an excuse. I got an A+ on that essay, I guess the teacher agreed with me.

You're right, it's not just the internet. The internet does fuel these teen poets, these wannabe musicians though. Many of them bring guitars to school and carry them from class to class to look cool. I asked one of them where the D string was on his guitar and he responded "I play by ear". Anyone that knows how to play the guitar knows where the D string is, even if you do play by ear. These lies are another fuel. They say they cut thmeselves because they hate themselves or because they love pain. They really do it to get the attention their parents failed to deliver.

My solutions may be vague, but at least I propose some. By the time they are 18, they have to realise how pathetic their life is. Like I said earlier, how many 30-year old goths exist? They grow out of it... eventually. Once they realise that their prize, their all so "open mind" is closed to reality. When their parents kick them out, they have to face the real world, where having an 'open mind' won't even get you a job at McDonald's. Then they realise that havbing an opend mind only helps once you are on track to success. He have to fill up our beaten up appartment buildings, with the open minded phone salespeople.

Bell Boy,

'Nigs', quite simply are niggers as I explained. These are hoodlums and rappers etc. There are nice blacks however, some of them friendly. It's purely a cultural thing.

I personally don't like black youth culture, although a few of my friends (when I was at boarding school, back in the day) who were gentlemen of questionable origin (is that the PC way of saying it?) have shown me that not all blacks are bad as I would otherwise have thought from parents / racist friends etc.

Oh and Roman, yeah there are loads of ugly white birds, but just as many 'big-momas'!

(Note to self: have I disgraced my self?)

"Crack"
You're as good as a nigger, boy. When it comes time you'll be lynched beside the niggers.
No, you see- I could easily go on a rant of you being a white Bluechesse smelling sister-fucking inbred, pasty dog eyed, Casper looking, Doom playing porn addicted bag-my-groceries weakling piece of shit in a dog collar but I won't.

Its easier to know you're a Sciforums senior member who logged on yesterday under a different moniker just so that you could play with me.
I smell Fountains of piss or a Spoodle, at the very least.
See how simple?


IlikeSalt:
I could have easily fallen into the middle class void. My parents caught that early. Now, I am aiming for a scholarship on hockey. I work at the local library for all my luxuries. I am going to go to University to become a high school teacher... I will teach white boys and white chicks. Damn, that's gonna be a great job!


Muhahhaha.
Bring a BB gun.
You're right, it's not just the internet. The internet does fuel these teen poets, these wannabe musicians though. Many of them bring guitars to school and carry them from class to class to look cool. I asked one of them where the D string was on his guitar and he responded "I play by ear". Anyone that knows how to play the guitar knows where the D string is, even if you do play by ear. These lies are another fuel. They say they cut thmeselves because they hate themselves or because they love pain. They really do it to get the attention their parents failed to deliver.
I believe that this is the Age of Dilenttantism.

Here they are, ladies and gentlemen, tiny artists, musicians, poets, scientists, historians, politicians, activists of all shapes and sizes fucking clueless of the basic principles in their professions. They will talk a whole day about the State of the World Today and not even know how many branches there in their government.

The internet, too, has brought them closer. You can smell them sometimes through he monitor- kinda makes you want to reach through and tear the flesh of their face, no?

Roman:
Minor detail: You said all those school shootings were perpetrated by whites. Not so. The school shooting in Bethel, Alaska (which was the second of such in the US), was perpetrated by Evan Ramsey, a half breed native. He claims he was sexually abused in foster homes. He hadn't much of a father (an ex-con himself), and no real family. Still, Bethel must be quite a boring shithole. Weed's expensive out that far– cheaper to huff gasoline.

No dice, Romanio.
I've seen the interviews and he could pass off for a white boy- culturally.
Wesley Snipes and Armstrong Williams are the blackest white boys I've ever seen.
See now?

Modification: its white boy mentality perpetuating these gimmicks, not white boys.

Wesley Snipes and Armstrong Williams are the blackest white boys I've ever seen.

The other day, my dad and I watched "The Fan" with DeNiro and Snipes -- and my dad said that Snipes is soooo not black, that he is a totally white person. There's something odd about him, but I haven't put my finger on it yet. But I bet it must be the capitalism.


(aside: I don't really hate white boys. This thread is only a spoof of the one labeled "I hate being a white male"- he doesn't know why he hates it, so I'm being.....~helpful~.)(ha)

Aha, and it all originates from your maternal and protection instinct -- to make those boys look at themselves, see that they are nothing, and then be ENFURIATED by the sight, so that in a Big Bang of discipline they would make something of themselves. How nice of you, White Boys' Little Helper.
*grin grin*

Crackofthewhip can't be fo' real (as his favorite people might say:))

Probably someone long-term from here just having some sick 'fun', as Gendanken suggested.

The White Boy Fights Back:

To begin, i did start the "hate being a white male" thread.
it's my monster, im sorry i ever opened my mouth.

Gendanken: viewing your posts throughout this thread have painted a picture for me i have already seen too much in movies, and television, and news... it almost makes me wonder where you get your insightful new imagary from...

let's count the stereotypes:

have you believe he’s a darkling, imbued with the Gothic blood of Chthulu.

This brand of white boy is everywhere, and if its not smashing into a wall with his skateboard

shooting his classmates since nothing screams “Look at me!" louder than shooting people as insignificant as you.

They will stuff him with Xanax and Paxil and Zoloft

disenfranchised little boy sitting at home with his computer with no identity

Each white boy, therefore, is being raised by two mothers

does ecstasy and special k... but he's only experimenting!

No, they send him away to space camp.

wealthy or well to do rebellious little boys too busy breastfeeding that its taken ambition and put it to sleep.

One a herpes complex called "Job" the other a spirochet named "Responsibilitus" type A

porn addicted bag-my-groceries

I'll add this one just because it's so bloody racist it makes me sick, why can't you spell gendanken?
If you just signed up barely seconds ago just for this thread, you're the biggest, stoopidest nigger in here.


So you have clearly demonstrated all of the mythical, media driven stereotypes that so flimsily back up your shallow point of view... were you going to supply us with some hard evidence? news clippings, webpages, even personal experience? anything else but namecalling?
and let's forget columbine, let's forget "deadjournal"

Im really frustrated by such unintelligent blubber.
For the record, im 17, and white. your "white boy."
I'm middle classed, and we have a pc in my home.
Im guessing you are not.

What makes you qualified to pass this sort of judgement on today's youth?
to me, it really sounds like your typical "when i was your age, we did more than you, 10 feet of snow...etc" bullshit. It happens everytime you get an older generation talking about the youngest one...

I dunno about you, but the last white boy i saw walking down the street didn't have his face painted white, or was wearing fangs, or seemed angry... he instead was walking, with his black friend, laughing and telling jokes, in average everyday clothing that im sure you wear from your local mall. In your local suburb, in nobody land where you live, just like where i live, just like where your "white boy" lives.

The boy did not seem racist, unlike you.

To be honest gendanken, you're the one you seems angry.

but i do, in fact, know your "marilyn manson" lookalike kid... i go to school with one of those... i'd say he's quite opposite to the angry, attention craviing white boy of which you describe... Larry's an easygoing, guy with a sense of humour, to my knowledge two jobs, and is also a great student.

Their habitats include their personal space known as a room, dark alleyways, parties that tend to have an unusual amount of psychotic drugs, the chair in front of their computer in their room. Upon observation, one may notice that they partake in a variety of behaviours. On this "computer" which seems to be a satisfying substance to them, they tend to gather in depressive groups known as "blog forums" or "blog sites" ( ex: www.deadjournal.com) where they spill out insignificant personal dilemmas and then "hook up" with people who share similar insignificant dilemmas. THey often use sentences like "no one knows how I feel" or "no one understands me" even though they are among thousands of others with the same insignificant dilemma....

... I think they grow out of it. Sometimes it is too late. I find that many of them are a few developmental stages behind their superior peers. They become stuck in inferior groups. I think they eventually live in the real world and see what living really is. How many 30-year old goths have you seen? Not many. what happened to the 18-year old goths thast lived 10 years ago? THey pump my gas and sell me clothes. Theyu grew out of it. Some might og on to do good things. They just have to grow up and face reality.

Again, Ilikesalt is demonstrating for us here "10 feet of snow, in my father's pyjammas" bullocks. Amazing how people put themselves above the youth stereotype they so blindly, effortlessly create.

So, I am a white boy. I'm not depressed, and writing in my deadjournal, but instead on sciforums, openly fighting scum like you on prejudice that is so over the top and childish, it makes me wonder could you in fact be the white boy?

Sounds to me you more or less envy him. I would, if all he had to do was not work, sit in front of a computer, and be depressed, and have friends, and do nothing, and dress up all day. sounds like a blast, sign me up.

Instead, i also work two jobs (as it's summer), attend school regularly, openly participate in the community, lead two bands (which amazingly, are not punk or metal bands, but instead one is a jazz band, the other a folk trio), live with my single mother, and NO father... And all my future is in the open in front of me... come to think of it, i can see why you'd be jealous of me. ;)

I'm not dismissing your views, and saying those of your stereotypes don't exist... but i am saying get a grip on your surroundings, stop being so general, and definitely stop letting society come to your conclusions for you.

BTW, Fraggle, your brilliant post really opened my mind, thank you!


Thanks for listening,
Maestro.

You're as good as a nigger, boy. When it comes time you'll be lynched beside the niggers.

i like that. just desserts is what i call that. poor little brown gendy. escapism thru gradations of blackness is how she can call nigs, niggers.

i pity the little swarthy dankass. so desperate to be white.

aint that right, sambo?

Maestro, I'm not talking about the white person who works, will go to higher education and who has black friends. Hell, I'm one of those.

I'm talking about the attention craving bored teenager who constantly complains about how no one understands them, who delves into internet sub-cultures and brings them into reality (like Gothism, Wiggerism and Punkism), who may be suffering from bi-polar disorder, who believes they are open-minded and intelligent because they blog "deep" poetry about how no one understands them and the usual jabbering, who calls everyone around them "posers" yet they dress like one, who has no future. I have cousins like this. All their friends are like that. It's no surprise that they live in middle-class suburbs. They are so self-centred that they only care about their personal soap operas.

Thiose are the kind of people I am talking about. There are way too many of them.

Ilikesalt, I understand the stereotype, and i definitely agree it can exist,
what i disagree with is your loose use of it. "... way too many of them" i think is an exaggeration.

For some it could be phases(i.e. your "gothism" & "wiggerism")**chuckles**, for others life, but to completely dump all of those characteristics on one group of people, on each individual of those people... well i dunno, didn't Hitler do something of a similar nature?

Also, in your previous post, the one i quoted, you said these traits apply to the "white boy." in fact, the thread is labled "I HATE WHITE BOYS"

So I assumed your attack was on the white male youth. That's always why i was bitching about prejudism and generalization. :D

Kasi:
i like that. just desserts is what i call that. poor little brown gendy. escapism thru gradations of blackness is how she can call nigs, niggers.

i pity the little swarthy dankass. so desperate to be white.

aint that right, sambo?
Pause.
How stupid do you think I am?


Maestro:

Is that all?
I'm miffed.
All that huffing and puffing and never once did you notice I agree with you:

"Modification: its white boy mentality perpetuating these gimmicks, not white boys

Wesley Snipes and Armstrong Williams are the blackest white boys I've ever seen.
See now?"

Who does your reading? Mother?

I don't think you did/do agree, gendanken.

The thread is titled "...White boys" so, as written, you imply the attack is directed at white boys, period.

and "whiteboy mentality" is still a childish attempt at labeling many ill-fated, or mislead youths(in your opinion). It's to ultimately make yourself feel better, like we learned in kindergarten about putdowns.

"Jimmy's a goth, He's stupid! I'm not sharing with goth boy!" I mean, this is seriously what you sound like.

lol, however if you do admit the "whiteboy" stereotype does not apply to all white boys, but only to those within your stereotype (or grand selection), that's fine with me... actually, that sort of generalization is a good coping mechanism with hard truths like messing up your own childhood, etc...

were the reading and "mother" statements directed at me? they don't even make sense...

but i would expect that from you... got anymore "...yo mama's" you learned in 5th grade?

lol.

cheers,
Maestro

Maestro:
were the reading and "mother" statements directed at me? they don't even make sense...

Look here, fucker.

The last half of that last post was directed at you consequently for you to read.
Since I feel you haven't read the thread, common sense says I imagine your mother read it for you.

You're accusing me being a generalizing little kindergartener but has it hit you that you're just as guilty?
"Gendanken you must hate yourself, stupid cunt, putting down others in order to feel better!"
So quick to label me and defend you and white boys like kiddies do in sandboxes.

You put up a thread whining about being a white boy and I'm letting you see the thousand and one reason why you should whine, unfortunate soul that thou art.

Maestro, you don't get it, for example when you quoted:
does ecstasy and special k... but he's only experimenting!

...you were talking about sterotypes. Obviously, the point of that statement was the different treatment of nigs to 'whites boys'.

I seem to be assaulting everyone. Well, I'm not a very nice person.

gendanken, i didn't call you a cunt.
I'm just saying you generalize too much. if you wish to examine something like the typical white suburban youth... do it intelligently, not with idiotic, unproven prejudices and namecalling you just happened to pick up.

But I am curious, you said you weren't black... does that mean you're white?
Perhaps share with the thread the type of youth you were...
You were once young, weren't you?

Tell me about you and your friends at the time... did any of them fit your 'white boy' category? (it could be the beginnings of something enlightening, rather than foul garbage... and then i might consider your point.)


Blue: I quoted gendanken there as he was implying white youths take serious chemical drugs. It's just another generalization as i see it... a lot of white youths; a lot of youths PERIOD never touch chemicals.

In fact: according to These (http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/data/03data/fig03_1.pdf) numbers, at least 80% of twelfth graders strongly disapprove of experimentation with MDMA, and just over 4% used in the twelve months before being surveyed last year.

According to another Document (http://www.drugabuse.gov/pdf/minorities03.pdf) i found from the National Institute on Drug Abuse: Percentiles of individuals in the Black, Native/Indian, Korean, & Puerto Rican youth groups exceeds the percentile of white youths who used drugs in the month before being surveyed (P 34)

And since when is it only experimentation for whites? crime for blacks?
I'm beginning to think the racism only exists in your minds....

what'd you call them, blue? "Nigs"
that's so shameful.

cheers,
Maestro

Minority groups have so many social and criminal problems already that drugs makes them a million times worse.

If you ask most white professionals if they experimented with drugs when they were young, I'm sure a large percentage would say "yes". Like I was saying earlier, white people tend to grow out of their strange ways.