View Full Version : I am not confused, I understand that I do not know things.


EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 05:26 PM
Peace.

JDawg
10-12-08, 05:27 PM
Good call, Chi. Wish more people had the stones to admit that.

StrangerInAStrangeLa
10-12-08, 05:30 PM
1 of the wisest things a person can know & say.
We'd all be better off if everyone could say that & mean it.
Problem is most can't admit it to themselves.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 05:30 PM
Thanks, I see alot of people seem confused, but being confused is not the same as understanding your lack of knowledge.

When you realise your lack of understanding you cease to be confused.

peace.

JDawg
10-12-08, 06:13 PM
I really dig you sometimes, Chi.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 06:30 PM
thanks, appreciated.


peace.

Baron Max
10-12-08, 07:14 PM
When you realise your lack of understanding you cease to be confused.

But how does that keep one from being confused? Makes no sense.

If you're confused about, say, the value of paper money in your pocket, know that you lack that knowledge doesn't keep you from being confused when the salesperson asks you for $52.89 for your purchase!

No, EFOC, you're wrong. Ignorance might be blissful, but it's no indication that you won't be confused about things. You can be blissfully ignorant, but you're still confused.

Baron Max

shorty_37
10-12-08, 07:15 PM
I am confused right now :D

StrangerInAStrangeLa
10-12-08, 07:18 PM
OK He could've phrased it slightly better.
The following comments clarified it.
I don't think he meant he's absolutely never confused.
Knowing & admitting 1 doesn't know some things greatly lessens confusion.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:22 PM
But how does that keep one from being confused? Makes no sense.

If you're confused about, say, the value of paper money in your pocket, know that you lack that knowledge doesn't keep you from being confused when the salesperson asks you for $52.89 for your purchase!

No, EFOC, you're wrong. Ignorance might be blissful, but it's no indication that you won't be confused about things. You can be blissfully ignorant, but you're still confused.

Baron Max

If you understand that you lack the knowledge what is there to be confused about?, the money is in your pocket you, understand that to know howmuch you have you must count it to gain the aquired knowledge. It is not a state of confusion once you realise what you do not know.


Mabye you just get confused alot, the state of confusion is not the same as lack of knowledge and understanding you lack the knowledge.


Name anything about any subject and name one of those things I am confused about. If I become confused about anything I will confirm nd separate what I do know and what I do not know, then figure out what I need to learn in order to understand.

If I become confused there are ways to turn that confusion into a structured order to understand.


peace.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:28 PM
The state of confusion can be stopped when you understand and separate knowing from not knowing. For instance a person might be talking complete BS and confusing people, you may come to understand that he is talking nonesense and your confusion will fizzle out when you realise the reason you are confused is because they are not making sense.


If somebody is trying to tech you something that is true, you might be confused with the subject because of your lack of understanding. Instead of saying"I give up it confuses me" you can turn around and decide 'I am going to learn about that subject and understand what I do ot know".

Confusion does not have to be confusing if you give it order and structure, it comes down to lack of understanding.

peace.

Baron Max
10-12-08, 07:30 PM
Name anything about any subject and name one of those things I am confused about.

Obviously you're terribly confused about how to explain to us why you're not confused because you're ignorant about something.

Baron Max

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:31 PM
If you're confused about, say, the value of paper money in your pocket, know that you lack that knowledge doesn't keep you from being confused when the salesperson asks you for $52.89 for your purchase!



Why would it actualy confuse your brain, you understand how to work out the problem.

If you cannot count then it may be confusing until you understand how to count. Would you like me to teach you? :)


peace.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:33 PM
Obviously you're terribly confused about how to explain to us why you're not confused because you're ignorant about something.

Baron Max

I already explained Baron,

The state of confusion can be reduced to realising you lack sufficient knowledge.

Name something that confuses you and we will give my idea a test drive.


peace.

Baron Max
10-12-08, 07:39 PM
Name something that confuses you and we will give my idea a test drive.

Women and how they think.

Baron Max

shorty_37
10-12-08, 07:43 PM
Women and how they think.

Baron Max

Well Chi can't explain it either because he is a man.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:44 PM
Women and how they think.

Baron Max

It is because a woman's brain is different to your mle brain, they re fueled by different hormones. It is confusing to your male brain because they have different driving factors than men. The way women are designed fits a different bill to how men are designed. It may seem confusing to women sometimes also with male behviour, because we need to understand and learn the differences between the sex's.

Thus ending confusion and turning it into a realised lack of understanding.


peace.

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 07:46 PM
Well Chi can't explain it either because he is a man.

You failed the understanding that Chi has alredy took it upon himself to educate his mind in the differences between human sex's.

Thus turning my old confusion into lack of understanding, which was then turned into an understanding of the differences after learning about them. Now I am not only un-confused but I understand and have the knowledge.


peace.

cosmictraveler
10-12-08, 08:10 PM
The key is to understand yourself so that you can then try to understand others. Knowledge is a good thing only when balanced with wisdom. Knowing when to ask and when not to is a very wise thing to learn. Sometimes we can learn by just observation which many people can do. For every one thing that I know there are a million things I do not know. :)

EmptyForceOfChi
10-12-08, 08:17 PM
That is true I think, wisdom is rare compared to intelligence.

peace.

cosmictraveler
10-12-08, 08:20 PM
That is true I think, wisdom is rare compared to intelligence.

peace.

Doc Childre and Deborah Rozman:

It is no longer enough to be smart -- all the technological tools in the world add meaning and value only if they enhance our core values, the deepest part of our heart. Acquiring knowledge is no guarantee of practical, useful application. Wisdom implies a mature integration of appropriate knowledge, a seasoned ability to filter the inessential from the essential.