View Full Version : I am back! - Gather the gang and lets talk a bit shall we?


H-kon
05-24-00, 06:02 AM
Hey there everyone!

To all i havent met, nice to meet you! And to all that know me, glad to see you again :) (Flash, Boris, Plato, Lori, Tiassa and others :))

To all that old-timers that aren't here, hurry the heck back!

Lots of new faces here. Seems like i have to brush up a little and start taking lessons again :)

Well, to start a new topic i am going to ask this:
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Why is religion important? Why is faith important when all we can do is fight about silly nuances that is religion/faith in itself in all it's incarnations?

Doesn't religion/faith become "obsolete" when the fighting/disagreements makes you twist and turn the words, thereby staining the good that CAN be religion?


I am what you can call a believer in something higher than myself, something that i can't explain, but there is no religion on this planet that can purely describe it since religion in my opinion ( i think i need to stress that here on this forum) is stained by several hundreds, if not thousands of years of twisting and turning of the actual message in itself.

Then we have democracy.. oh sorry. cleptocracy is the right name, greed, money and all that which religion seems to like pretty well, all in the name of "God" whomever that is. I'd bet if some of the various religions bothered, famine wouldn't exist.

Flame on people. I am gonna fight back!



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.Religion is for those who fear hell, Spirituality is for those who have been there.

Oxygen
05-24-00, 12:06 PM
Welcome home, H-Kon!

Religion is a touchy matter for most people. I was always told to never discuss religion or politics with people whom I wanted to keep as friends. Fortunately, my friends are all cooler than that and we can discuss such matters freely without animosity.

Religion sprang from primitive attempts to explain the world around us. It was a quick answer to the strange phenomena that happened all around. Of course, the person who could provide these explanations was looked upon highly as he or she held back our primal fears and allowed us to evolve and become the apparently advanced species that we are.

It was this function as, literally, a soothesayer that respect for shamans and priests emerged. Such a respected person should not be questioned, and the belief system that held primitive fears at bay should also not be questioned. It was necessary to obey so that the tribe could survive another year and prosper.

As a species, then, we grew up with religion, and many people are loathe to give up such things as favorite childhood toys and religions they grew up with. It's sort of the warm fuzzy blanket that makes them feel safe and secure in this world.

If it works, I have no problems with peoples' beliefs. As for me, I threw out my warm, fuzzy blanket years ago. I guess it just quit working for me.

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I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight, kill, and die for your right to say it.

pashley
05-24-00, 01:15 PM
Oxygen,

If religion is just a warm fuzzy, why did/do people of secure means, monetarily and physically, still embrace it?

Do you believe there is a God?

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"It was there, at the edge of the black abyss, that I found myself."
-Patrick Ashley

H-kon
05-26-00, 08:06 AM
Interesting Oxygen :)

Are you sure you threw away the blanket, or did you just give it another color?

:)

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.Religion is for those who fear hell, Spirituality is for those who have been there.