Hypothetical

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Asguard, Jul 11, 2008.

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who should get transported first

  1. Cop

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  2. Civillan

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  1. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Im watching CSI and they mentioned something which is probably incorect but interesting as an experiment anyway

    You have a police shooting and both an officer and civillan get shot, for the sake of agument there conditions are clinically identical. One WILL die because there is only one ambulance and by the time they transport one person the other will have died of blood loss

    So who should get preference?

    The police officer who serves the community but also as part of this accepts the risk they might die in that service

    Or the civilan who was symply in the wrong place at the wrong time
     
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  3. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    Can't you put both of them in one ambulance?
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    nope, ambulance holds only one pt

    edit to add, thats correct for australia at least and for the sake of this hypothetical its very important.
     
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  7. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    In the most extreme case where there is no possibility at all to transport the other
    one, I'll say the civilian first. But if the civilian is happen to be criminal, I'll go for
    the cop.

    Reason behind is that it's police job to protect the civilian, but it's also police job
    to protect the civilian from criminal

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  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    in the case on CSI there was a cop, a civilan AND a perp all in clinical need of imidiate transport and only one ambulance

    However for the sake of this pretend the perp either got away, got killed, whatever. No there isnt another cop car to transport the other person, no you cant use a civilan car.

    Its just one ambulance, and 2 pts one of who will die either way
     
  9. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    A perp is a suspected criminal, right?

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    Then I'll go with this priority:
    1. the civilian
    2. the cop
    3. the perp

    However, if the perp is a big criminal, like let say the boss of drug dealers, my
    priority will be:
    1. the perp
    2. the civilian
    3. the cop

    By saving the perp perhaps can gather the information which in turn will benefit
    the society.
     
  10. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    What about you? You haven't say which one should got priority and why.
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    If no other criteria are allowed, the youngest person.
     
  12. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    A 35 years old cop and your 50 years old mum get shot, they chose to save the
    cop, you wouldn't get hurt?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, you don't have time for moral dilemma's.
    The cop may have children too.
     
  14. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    Me, if the 35 years old cop is my father, and they chose to save the 50 years old mum,
    I'll be proud of my dad. He will agree with me.
     
  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Just the way it goes

    You save the civilian first, the cop last. That's just the nature of the commitment. If there's a critically-wounded perp, the cop gets bumped down the list again.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    But you can't make a moral decision every time, you have to have a previous agreements about what to do in certain situations.
    I see Tiassa confirmed that cops get to go last, that's a previous agreement. In this case a political one.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Put one in the ambulance and the other in a police car and take them both to the hospital.
     
  18. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    Asguard already told us here, Cosmic (the bold text):
     
  19. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Well how then did the police get there to begin with. If there are police already investigating that means cars are available for any emercency that happens.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe it was police on horseback or bike lol
     
  21. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    It's a hypothetical for a reason.

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    Civilian first, like Tiassa said it's part of the job.
     
  22. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But that CAN'T happen in reality because there's going to be a car available somewhere if the ambulance can't take them both. Stupid question if you ask me to begin with.
     
  23. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    It's just one of those 'if you HAD to choose' questions, no need to get so worked up about the actual possibility of it happening.
     

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