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grazzhoppa
10-29-02, 02:13 PM
Here is a website that claims putting humans into suspended animation is possible, they call it Hypersleep. They use a dog as an example.

Hypersleep- Here (http://www.ssaerospace.com/hypersleep.php)

If it's possible, Mars would be that much easier to get to, so would other planets we propose to visit with actual humans.

It doesn't look like a crackpot site either.

Thoughts on Hypersleep?

shinobi
10-29-02, 02:41 PM
Some potential problems may be that you need two people with medical training to be awake at all times to look after the sleepers. The article says that the main advantages are that sleepers need less room and food etc., (which is true), but if there was some sort of problem they would need to be woken up. I think they would have to have the extra room and food and stuff just in case this happened. Also on the room thing, the ship would have to double as habitat when they were on Mars so they'd need the room anyway.

Just a few thoughts.

Interesting article.

Chagur
10-29-02, 02:42 PM
IMHO

"Hypersleep" = An attempt at hibernation of a sorts.

While not 'crackpot', poorly conceived and useless
even for the short period required for a trip Mars.

Take care :cool:

Tetraneutron
11-01-02, 05:41 PM
It's not the lack of food or water that is the problem with a trip to Mars, It's the radiation.

Pollux V
11-01-02, 05:56 PM
Welcome to sciforums. I thought they had concieved of making a shell of radiation-loving bacteria in the ship's hull, for when they head off for mars. I could be wrong. Dunno.

Tetraneutron
11-01-02, 06:02 PM
The final solution will be a Magnetic Field Generator, these are rather bulky at the moment but the size is decreasing.

Thank you for the welcome.

T.

Pollux V
11-01-02, 06:12 PM
Could you describe this device? How it works? Its phase in production? I've never heard of it, and goshdarn I've been watching the discovery channel rigorously, waiting for something like this to roll around:p

Btw, is your name an existing particle, or does it just sound cool?

Tetraneutron
11-01-02, 06:35 PM
I'm sorry but I cannot go into detail.

The name I'm using is from a new Element recently announced, here's some info:

A new method to construct hyperspherical functions basis for A identical particles, beyond the minimal approximation, is presented. This method is based on the link between the hyperspherical function method (HSFM) and the oscillator no-core shell model and uses a Slater determinant representation of the hyperspherical functions. It is shown that, because of this representation, the HSFM matrix elements are related to the inverse Laplace transforms of the oscillator shell model matrix elements, on the condition that the centre-of-mass motion and the hyperradial excitations are removed from the shell model states.

The applicability of the new method is demonstrated for the case of 3-7H, 4-10He and 4n. Using the proposed technique, with the current version of the computer code, it was possible to go up to = 16 for 3H, = 14 for 4n, = 12 for 4H and 4He, for 5H, for 5,6He, for 6,7H and 8He and for 7,9,10He, where .

The numerical calculations have been done using the Volkov V1 effective NN interaction. With this potential, the 3H and 4He ground states binding energies are found to converge rapidly. The binding energies of 4,5H and 5,6,8He decrease exponentially with K and, for Kmax used, these nuclei are underbound by maximum of with respect to the values obtained by the exponential extrapolation. Exponential extrapolation estimates of the converged energies for the 6,8He isotopes agree surprisingly well with experiment while the estimated converged energies of 4H and 5H are only 0.33 MeV and 0.6 MeV lower than the experimental ones. The binding energy of 7H estimated by exponential extrapolation is about 300 KeV lower that that for 5H. If this result is confirmed by more detailed calculations, this would imply that 7H may exist as a low lying resonance with the only decay channel being 7H H + n + n + n + n.

The HSFM has also been used to search for a bound state of the tetraneutron. Is has been shown that due to the large probability for a pair of neutrons to be in the triplet odd state, the two-body nucleon-nucleon force cannot by itself bind four neutrons, even if it can bind a dineutron. A very strong phenomenological four-nucleon force is needed in order to bind the tetraneutron. Such a 4N force, if it existed, would bind 4He by about 100 MeV.


T.

Pollux V
11-01-02, 07:36 PM
Are there any applications for this element? Where did they find it? Is it radioactive? What is its atomic number? We can p/m further if you want.....

I didn't get much from what you just wrote....haven't taken AP Chem yet in my High School. Ahh, what an exciting world awaits!

So you can't go into detail....is there a reason? Too complicated? Hasn't yet been patented? What? Tell me? What? What What?

UberDragon
11-01-02, 09:47 PM
that you need two people with medical training to be awake at all times to look after the sleepers

Maybe they could rotate every few weeks?

thed
11-02-02, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by Tetraneutron
I'm sorry but I cannot go into detail.


http://www.ph.surrey.ac.uk/npg/talks/halo02/timofeyuk/

http://arxiv.org/abs/nucl-th/0203003

http://www.cnrs.fr/cw/en/pres/compress/noyau.htm

At the moment I am struggling to see if Mr. Tetraneutron is a valid researcher, namely Mr. Timofeyuk, or a complete loon.

Tetraneutron
11-02-02, 05:46 PM
I'm a complete loon and Dr Timofeyuk would also agree.

T.