Humans have a sixth sense, and i can prove it.

i will give facts and document this properly, but i will give you one thought to think about before i write up my argument in full,


we have 6 possibly 7 senses or more, the sixth i can prove quickly the others are on sub energy levels dealing with Qi energy, electromagnetic and such other forces,


touch,
sight,
taste,
smell,
hearing,
awareness,

if you strip down all 5 known senses, you still have a sense of awareness, and "knowing".



peace

 

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Explain what you mean by "awareness"? Do you mean that one is "aware" of himself? Or that he might be "aware", even without the other senses, of something or someone near him? I don't understand your meaning.

Baron Max

 

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its something for you to think about untill i detail my argument fully,

if you stripped down all of your other 5 senses right now, would you still be aware?

the answer is yes you would be able to think, so isnt that a sense? you can sense your own thoughts, its even in the phrase itself,

"sense of awareness"

your brain picks up many different types of things, it can communicate and interact through electricity, and other forces/energies, and i think you will find that conciousness, awareness, and brain activity on human levels do have all the critiria to class as a sense, so this infact makes the 5 sense theory wrong, also if you look deeper into Quantum theories you will find that our brain "would seem" functiones on levels we dont fully comprehend, the brain has more sense than all other sensory systems put together, they all run through the brain,

peace

peace,

 

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No, it's an action.

umm... I can't sense my own thoughts. I just think, there's no feeling of my brain sending electrical impulses or anything like that.

um... what other forces/energies?

how do you define a sense?
wikipedia defines it as "a system that consists of a sensory cell type (or group of cell types) that respond to a specific kind of physical energy, and that correspond to a defined region (or group of regions) within the brain where the signals are received and interpreted".

I had never heard of that "theory", like wikipedia says, "Based on this outline and depending on the chosen method of classification, somewhere between 9 and 21 human senses have been identified."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense

could you elaborate on that? I'm not sure I understand.

 

Sorry, Chi, but "awareness" is not a sense. It results from one or more of the senses being activated - as in seeing or hearing someone else.

You are actually making an attempt to redefine the very meaning of "sense" and it's not convincing in the least. Sorry.

 

Well.
Yeah.
There is a sixth sense.
It's called proprioception.
Proprioception might be what you're referring to by 'awareness'. But knowing your mystical bent, I doubt it.

There's also a seventh.
Vestibular.

A few others as well although not all are present in humans.

Should be interesting seeing you 'prove' this 'awareness' of yours.

 

There have been many experiments on "sensory depravation" - paid volunteers with earplugs in totally dark tank of body temp water, etc. (usually students who pick up a few bucks and sleep for the first half day at least.) Eventually, they hallucinate. The way I think of this may be wrong, but I believe that the brain/body system is expecting to receive and process a reasonable level of detail information about the environment. If that information source is very low/ weak/ then the "gain controls" are turned up, somewhat like the brain activity in REM sleep you imagine things when the brain tries to make sense of the mainly noise input it is receiving. This is not a new sense, just the old 5 at high gain and automatic processing of mainly sensory noise signals coming to the brain.

 

The field of psychology agrees with you completely, Billy, and so do I.

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The brain is expecting SOME form of input and if there's nothing meaningful, it does, indeed, try to make sense of the random noise generated by the sensory receptors and that which naturally occurs along the nervous transmission paths. That noise is normally greatly overshadowed by the intensity of ordinary signals which are present under standard conditions.

There is also strong evidence to support the idea that under sensory deprived conditions, a certain amount of noise is also generated in the brain itself as a result of misfiring neurons (and the reception of those sporadic firings) which ALSO occurs naturally at every given moment. But once again, they are usually overridden. It's worth noting (ahem! Attention, Duendy) that when they are not overridden they give rise to psychosis - a number of different ones, actually. And even though Duendy, and possibly others, will not understand it, medications can help reduce those sporadic firings and allow a person a great deal of relief when they would otherwise suffer great agony.

 

If you cut the brain stem: you lose consciousness (awareness): probably because you lose all sense of feeling (heat, cold, pain, itch, pressure). Without sensory perception to the outside world and your environment, what else would there be left for you to be aware of?

Also, we have other senses:
1. The inner ear detects gravity - important for balance.
2. The bladder senses when to urinate (not a sense of touch or feeling - as in "peeing in your pants")
3. Hunger and thirst

Maybe you should "come to your senses" ha ha - only joking!

peace

 

you just said it yourself, you defined what a sense is, and the brain fits that description dosent it, it is a sensory system, your other senses wouldent work without it,


peace,

 

The brain is the processor of the senses.
Strip off all the 5 normal senses and you won't sense anything.
Really, without sight, taste, hearing, smell and touch, what the hell could your brain sense then?
Sensing that you're present? Pff.
Senses are for things *outside* of your consciousness. To sense things that aren't part of you.

 

and isnt it considered a possibility in the far future to keep the brain alive on its own without the body?,

can i ask everybody a question then, if the brain can be kept alive without the human body or its other sensory systems, dosent this mean that it isnt dependant on other senses to stay active, and therefore must have its own capabilities in the terms of "sense",


if people are thinking im wrong could you please fully define the word sense, because from how im looking at it, (in the dictionary) it actually implies that im correct because the brain fits the description,


and ok i think its completely idiotic to believe we have only 5 limited senses, i believe we interact with the universe on a much deeper level, on a quantum level,


how do you explain that we only use about 10% of our brain? the other 90% does work you know, we just havent figured out what it all does, but if you look deeper into Quantum theories about the brain, you will see quite interesting "ideas" about how the brain functions on much deeper levels, than just the ordinary 5 senses,



could i ask for some assistance please? i would like to conduct some tests on this, and would like some information/help from soem kind posters on here. what experiments would prove that we hae a 6th sense, i would like to conduct some real experiments, i know light you could help me, do you have any suggestions for experiments/tests i could run, to prove another sense?.



thanks,

peace,

 

so electric signals are all in your conciousness then huh?,

and the brain cant pick up electrical signals or any other kind of force/energy no?,

if your brain can pick up signals from an outside source that proves we have a sixth sense, if you get a concious brain, and shove electrical probes into it and do some stuff, im sure it will respond to the signals, therefore proving the brain can sense things,

and thats just on basic scientific terms, nt even including Quantum theories to do witht he brain,



peace,

 

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=54274


proof and there we have it, thankyou and goodnight,


peace

 

well, it's not a sensory system. It doesn't sense anything. And the fact that your other senses wouldn't work without it is irrelevant. Your other senses wouldn't work without your heart, does that mean your heart is a sense? also, it doesn't fit into the other part of the definition: "and that correspond to a defined region (or group of regions) within the brain where the signals are received and interpreted".

 

That doesn't prove it. The article even explains it.
"in blind people whose eyes function normally but who have suffered damage to the brain's visual centre"
want real proof? get some blind people without eyes that see something. THEN I'll believe you (you wanted suggestions for experiments you might do? there's one)
" it is suggested that other parts of the brain besides the primary visual cortex respond to nerve messages from the eyes at an unconscious level. "
your visual cortex only allows you to physically see the objects, but another part of the brain is the one who realizes they're there.
In other words, "seeing" is divided into two or more regions of the brain. If you disable one, what it does doesn't work, but the other one still works so what the second one does still works. It's a fairly simple concept.

 

Good work, AlphaWolf.

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http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro99/web3/Bernstein.html


http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/05.20/sixth.sense.html


http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4638




peace,

 

for the first two- psst. it's called the sense of smell.
lol. It still works the same way. Smell particles (in this case pheromones) trigger smell neurons to fire. No big mysterious sense that needs quantum anything. Other animals have it, it's no big surprise we do.
for the third one- I think it's just retrieval problems. It's like when you can't quite remember a word, just the first letter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recollection
in that experiment, there's no cue to help you identify what was wrong, so you don't remember what was wrong.

again, no mysterious supernatural or quantum anything is needed.