Human Shields

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Psycho-Cannon, Mar 5, 2003.

  1. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    Seeing them mentioned on another post reminded me.

    These "Human shields" have gone to Iraq to surround Civillian and Humanitarian targets *Power plants, water purifiers, Hospitals etc*

    So if these people die because our countries attack these in our name, is that justifiable to you...already they are planning on flattening the cities with more firepower than used in the previous gulf wars history in only the first 48 hours of any war, plus the huge difference in numbers, technology and that Iraq has been sanctioned, bombed and kept in ruins for the last decade...can they really justify attacking more infrastructure that will hurt what is left of the Iraqi civillian populus than any millitary forces, especially the targeting of water plants, when they know they will also have to kill large numbers of innocent British, American and other nationals who are sitting on non-millitary targets in peaceful protest....
     
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  3. sycoindian myxomatosis> Registered Senior Member

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    they are justifying everything aren't they already? this will just be another minor detail shoved on the side...
     
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  5. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    The phrase "enemy combatants" springs to mind.
     
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  7. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    also "yer either with us er aginst us"
    and "pre-emption", and "...rummy, les jus grease the little peaceniks before they even head fer Iraq, heh heh. Izzat mike on?"

    (the 3rd quote is unverified)
     
  8. static76 The Man, The Myth, The Legend Registered Senior Member

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    Human Shields = Human Target Practice
     
  9. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    Another example of natural selection.
     
  10. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Probably to quell negative Iraqi public opinion.

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  11. odin Registered Senior Member

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    A lot of the Human shields are returning to Britain at this very moment,as Iraq insisted that they stand by military type targets.
     
  12. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    I think it is absolutely hilarious that the human sheilds left because it was "too dangerous" .... aaaahh what was the point of being there in the first place? its a joke, these "human sheilds" are jokes. They have basically admitted that they only became "human sheilds" so they can say "oh I was a human sheild". They think they are so righteous but they're just making a fool of themselves. If they truely believed in what they want people to think they believe then they would be willing to die for their cause.
    Too dangerous indeed

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  13. ibadreamer Registered Senior Member

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    i wonder if they talked with any of the iraqis while they were there other than the government officials that told them to set up the human shield to protect the needed military sites. i think they are probably glad we are coming.
     
  14. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    The gene pool of their home countries can only benefit from their loss.
     
  15. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Someday we'll wish we'd understood their convictions.
     
  16. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    What conviction? They didn't end up having any conviction whatsoever. The only reason they left was , and I quote, "it was too dangerous". Meaning it looks like the US might actually attack. GASP! What were you planning on sheilding them from? A dust storm?
    Its ridiculous.
     
  17. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    According to that post (Source please?) they left because they were asked to sit on Militart targets.
    Thats not what they went there for.
    They went to protect civillian targets that were on the "Allies" hit list that they felt was a criminal act and they wanted protected.
     
  18. Flashpoint Registered Member

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    If you become a human shield and carry through in your conviction (blown up) then I give you props for being brave. Although I still think your kinda stupid and won't change the outcome.
     
  19. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    According to the news and the "human shields" themselves they left because it was starting to look like america might attack regardless. Thats a good enough source for me.
     
  20. jps Valued Senior Member

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    Although I have great respect for anyone willing to die to save others, I think that this particular campaign is not a good idea, and will serve only to either cost the anti-war movement good people if they stay, or make anti-war protestors look like they lack dedication if they leave.
     
  21. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    Like every other part of this war we are in a loose-loose situation
     
  22. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    It is a little naked to discuss some press report without actually presenting it forwards, isn’t it?

    So, one dozen PA returned home while another dozen remain there. Where is the big deal?

    GET INFORMED FIRST!!


    LONDON (AP) - A dozen peace activists who went to Iraq to serve as human shields in the event of war returned home amid fears for their safety, a spokesman said Sunday. The protesters were among a group of mostly European activists who drove from London to Baghdad in two double-decker buses last month, intending to guard civilian sites from a U.S.-led military attack. Those who returned home had safety or financial concerns, spokesman Christiaan Biggs said. About a dozen British citizens were among several dozen human shields who remain in Baghdad.
    http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/5300006.htm

    Some British "human Shields" Flee Iraq, Cite Safety Fears
    http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/32852.php

    Human Shields Bed Down in the Target Zone
    http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/022403_human_shields_bed_down_in_the_ta.htm

    Group of British 'human shields' leaves Iraq, citing safety fears
    http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/world/story/788374p-5640669c.html

    Volunteers from half a dozen nations expect to move into a large, collective dorm room on Sunday at the power plant, a site they said was suggested by the Iraqi government. Since arriving earlier this month they have been touring hospitals, water treatment plants and other installations critical to the civilian population.
    http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/3725606.html

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  23. VAKEMP Registered Senior Member

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    No they aren't. Nice try. They are planning on using more firepower, but not in metropolitan areas or other areas with high concentrations of civilians. They will be targeting the Iraqi army, intending to cause them to surrender. The Iraqi army surrendered easily last time, so this is intended to speed up the process.
     

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