How to spot an agent

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by BlueMoose, Mar 5, 2007.

  1. BlueMoose Guest

    I found this at http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=23373

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    1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input,
    (ahem, plenty of well meaning users here do this but they are just agent-like people and not
    actually agents) generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply
    this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and
    expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

    2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit and
    run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on
    key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative
    with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

    3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new
    controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the
    particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer
    of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and
    vanish with the reason.

    4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams.
    Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern
    of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players
    will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute
    opponent presentation strength.

    5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for
    those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain
    for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a forum discussing
    conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic,
    or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might more rightly conclude they have
    an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

    6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin, an ability to
    persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from
    intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never
    become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a dis-info artist is that emotions can seem
    artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their
    rebuttal. But dis-info types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect
    to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job,
    and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they
    might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and
    indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect
    to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally
    continue their old dis-info patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play
    that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their
    communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

    7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may
    stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they
    really root for the side of truth deep within.

    I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author.

    For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling,
    grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots
    who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed
    first-hand knowledge of it.

    8) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time
    factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered
    player is involved in a cover up operation:

    8a) ANY posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response.The government and
    other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some
    damage. SINCE DIS-INFO ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or
    the visitor may be swayed towards truth.

    8b) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR,
    there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response
    strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of
    command.

    8c) In the example 8b) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the
    same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker
    or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious
    truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.
     
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  3. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    That's hilarious. So now the paranoia is being targeted at the sane forum posters that point out how crazy the conspiracy theorists are?
     
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  5. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    And what would be the mission purpose of such a black operation scheme here, do you think? Abridging Shifting the nature of communication exchange in a sector of society at the forums, perhaps?

    And hasn't there been commentary here already by various members and x-members professing of a noticeable difference since bygone days? that the Sciforums.com they knew is no longer as alternative and progressive brilliant and wild, but is being altered conforming into something more... mainstream humdrum?

    A moderator or two perhaps might also be implicated in such a black operation scheme, like when a free-spirited difficult thread suddenly gets severed locked, before a psychological influence social disorder sets in gets out of control.

    Or nominating tedious blabber mouths and self-righteous moralists clever wannabe up and coming anthropologists, scientists, legislators, etc. as false flag operatives moderators.

    Or granting humbugs certain members, the privilege of a soap box to freely express endless drivel learned opinions, so as to distract so as to input.

    All is probable inconceivable.

    But clearly there are the insurgents dark horses, too, who contest the status quo are too opinionated and self-serving, and are made to appear as harbingers trolls.

    Vigilance Paranoia, in this day and age, is a virtue shows instability. Be careful happy.
     
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  7. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    You ILLUMINATIST!
     
  8. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Chewing Gum. Wonderful.
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    paranoia.
     
  10. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Yes-yes. That's been uncovered covered already. Why disacknowledge regurgitate what's already been inferred suggested?
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    just because.
     
  12. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Well at least you're paranoid about a direct reason, whichever it is, even if you don't know which. Hard to be vigilant that way.
     

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