How patriotic are you?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Norsefire, Dec 28, 2007.

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How patriotic are you?

  1. 10-I would die for my country in a heartbeat

    18.8%
  2. 9

    3.1%
  3. 8

    21.9%
  4. 7

    3.1%
  5. 6-

    12.5%
  6. 5-Neutral

    21.9%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    9.4%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1-I would never fight for my country and couldn't care less

    9.4%
  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    An interesting question, I was quite surprised to find out that there are people in this world NOT willing to die for their country. What about you? How patriotic would you be?
    In my opinion, you can never be too patriotic.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Patriotism: the belief that your country is the best in the world because you were accidentally born in it.

    Maybe your patriotism goes deeper than that though.

    What is it about your own country that you feel makes it worth dying for?
     
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  5. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    I live in the US, however, I would die for either United Kingdom or Hungary. Unless my family in the US is in danger's way.
     
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  7. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    It's much more than that, James.

    You should love your country for the same reason you love your family. It's your country. It is the place of your birth. It is the place that has made you what you are. Its institutions, its culture, its traditions are your own. If your country falls, what becomes of everyone and everything you hold dear?

    Yes your birth in a certain country was an "accident" in that it was beyond your control. But so are your genetics, your family, your intelligence. If you are going to repudiate patriotism because your national origin is an "accident"; you must also repudiate your family, not to mention all your God given attributes.

    A man must stand up for what is his. He must take pride in his self, his family, and his nation. If there are things about your country that you don't like, you shouldn't turn against your country any more than you turn against your idiot brother. You do what you can to set things right. To set your idiot brother, or your nation, back on the right path.

    But if someone attacks you, your family, or your nation; you defend it.
     
  8. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    Now that you've mentioned it, I'd die for the world.
     
  9. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Madanthonywayne, well said indeed. Your nation is where your family, friends, and life is; your pride, your history, your future, and your ideals. It is worth dying for.
     
  10. crazyfreespirit "Custom User Title" Registered Senior Member

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    madanthonywayne, that was inspiring. It got me to rethink what I was going to enter for the poll.

    For me, It's true, my country makes a part of who I am, and holds everything I hold dear. To protect my family and the ideals of my country I believe are right, I would die for Canada.
     
  11. Killian_1_4 Registered Senior Member

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    I would never fight for my country. Mainly because I don't like fighting.
     
  12. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I would not kill for my country. I see myself as a citizen of the world, a being of this universe.

    p.s. Pride is not a virtue, it's a personality flaw.
     
  13. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    And if you eliminate the 'you' from 'your'...then what?

    What good are any of these things (pride,future,ideals) without YOU?
     
  14. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    I would not fight for any nation including my own.

    Primarily because I see war as a lower order of behaviour found to some degree in all societies.

    No doubt there was a part of society even in Nazi Germany who were against the war. And its this part of every society that I identify with as 'my people'.
     
  15. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    i will die for my country, the only reason i am stuck in England is because of my family,

    to me wales is and always will be the best country ever, the country is beautiful and the people are great to talk to, there is one draw back however, if you live in the hills it gets cold, we see many people come and go because they buy houses in the mountains because it is a quite place to be, and they go again because they find its way to cold for them.

    i will fight for wales and if needs be, i will die for it aswell.
     
  16. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    To quote someone: "It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?"
     
  17. Sciencelovah Registered Senior Member

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    I would contribute to my country, but not by die in fighting, unless by doing
    so it gives significant and fundamental betterment.
    Which is unlikely
    :shrug:
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    It seems that the rich always find a way out of fighting for"their " countries in most circumstances. They seem to know what's coming before hand and just pack up and leave to another country far enough away so that they are never in harms way. Not all rich people but the majority of them at least. Ever here of a Rockefeller or Hilton ever going to defend their country?

    So now this question about fighting is asked but the only ones here are mostly common everyday citizens that need a job and have a family to raise where they are living. They cannot afford to pack up and move away until the fighting is over and the winner is known. They have no other alternative in most cases but to take a stand to protect what they have invested their lives in. Most citizens would not want to fight for a "cause" in order to live, work and raise their families, for that's hard enough to do in todays world. Fighting other nations should be for defense of your own sovereignty not because your country needs to prove something about itself.

    Wars are making some people very rich, the arms dealers and their friends. They are the ones who benifit and regular citizens don't even know who they are. Arms merchants love wars, they can make billions and not even cares about who wins for they have already won the money they made making war materials for the "home" front. Let us put those people in the front lines and in harms way first, along with the Congressmen and women or other leaders of any nation around the world, and let them lead us into the battle as the front line of defenders. They never do , do they? Why not? Ever ask yourself that question? You can die for them but they won't die for you in most instances when a war breaks out.

    Put it in every constitution, legal document of every nation on Earth , that the leaders of countries MUST go into battle first, and lead the way for others to follow instead of telling others to die for them.

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  19. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Ha...nice!
     
  20. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I've never seen my country as anything more than just land. Its just dirt. I wouldn't fight for dirt.
    I'm from a military family, but they have never fought for America's rights and freedoms. They have fought for others right to have freedom. Would that make them patriotic?
     
  21. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Ne mutlu Türküm diyene!
     
  22. G. F. Schleebenhorst England != UK Registered Senior Member

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    You kind of missed your chance....
     
  23. G. F. Schleebenhorst England != UK Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah like freedom from electricity, running water, various body parts?
     

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