View Full Version : How is this Quasar speed determined?


Persol
03-09-03, 09:43 PM
Hi. I've found some sources that refere to the "proper velocity of Quasars" as being on the order of 5200c. I'm assuming that an astrophysist would not mean this as being faster then the speed of light. Is it still a mystery or a misinterpretation?

Here's the link I was sent by a little birdie
http://home.achilles.net/~jtalbot/V1982/NewMotion.html

blobrana
03-10-03, 10:29 AM
I imagine that the quasar has got a proper motion though space.
It cannot move faster than light-speed.
But the red shift figure is the rate of expansion of SPACE .
I think that there is not a speed limit to the expansion of space. (eg. big-bang super-inflation).

Persol
03-10-03, 10:36 AM
Hmph... seems the page vanished

chroot
03-10-03, 01:06 PM
"Superluminal motion" is the name given to a class of objects with radio jets aimed nearly directly at us. When the angle between a jet and our line-of-sight is small, relativistic beaming can make the jet appear to move faster than light.

It's really just a 'relativistic illusion.'

http://www.sunspot.noao.edu/sunspot/pr/answerbook/expl-8.html

BTW, if were to discover not one but TWO superluminal jets going in opposite directions, it'd spell serious trouble for relativity. We've discovered plenty of superluminal jets, but in every case the opposing jet is not superluminal.

- Warren

Persol
03-10-03, 03:15 PM
Thanks chroot.

shadows
03-10-03, 08:00 PM
how do we know the redshift is not just an illusion?

blobrana
03-11-03, 11:11 AM
There is a probability that the redshift is an illusion.
But MOST of our evidence (and theories) points to a direct connection of the expansion of space and the shifting of the light spectrum.

It is good to have a open mind. but not so open that it becomes a seive... :)

Persol
03-11-03, 11:15 AM
Although it would save a step when making spagetti.

blobrana
03-12-03, 03:33 AM
hum,
i`ll assume that it wasn`t a tasteless remark, and that it had some concoction with STRING theory?