What is your idea of how the worldmap should/will look in 50 years?

- should North and South Korea become united? If so should North join south or vice-versa?

- should Taiwan become district of china?

- Should jordan be palestine?

- will russians be paying with euro's?

Describe me your worldmap and tell me what you think SHOULD or COULD happen and WHY

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u should all be servants of australia:p

Isreal will be gone. The entire region will be argued over by the various Islamic nations who trashed the place, but they will be developing into a new multi-national group such as the EU. Maybe called the Islamic League or something like that.

The USA will be far more militant. It's intelligence agencies and military will have far more control over its own citizens. The USA will be rather isolated as far as international politics is concerned.

China will be where it is now, but forging ahead very fast into high-tech industries. They will be an incredible force in high-tech manufacturing en masse.

Taiwan will lose significance.

North and South Korea will not join one way or the other, just together. Korea will be whole again within 15 years.

Australia will have had a war with Indonesia. Nobody will win. Just lots of dead people around Darwin, followed by Australia fortifying the north coast.

Disease and famine will kill half of India, or else they and Pakistan will nuke each other back into a radioactive stone age.

Pretty much the same as it does now, with the same or different groups of people fighting over the same or different chunks of dirt.

North and South Korea will unite

Israel will become a US territory like Puerto Rico

England will reunite with US become 51st State. Scotland and Wales will be independent. Northern Ireland will reunite with Ireland.

Japan will lose significance. (The average age of work force in Japan is 55 right now in case you don't know.)

China will be a force in a big way.

Taiwan, whose economy is already larger than Holland and Belgium combined, will develop a nitch and become totally dominant in semiconductor and PC industry. I predict any companies that will emerge to challenge Microsoft and Intel will come from Taiwan

Africa will still be the same. Half of the population will be dying from STD's. There will be no white people in Africa 50 years from now.

Dollar will replace Rubel as the official Russian currency.

US will speak pre-dominantly Mexican Spanish. People who still prefer English will be called a "stupid conservative".

Europe will become Islamic

80% of the world's population will live in India.

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Australia will have had a war with Indonesia. Nobody will win. Just lots of dead people around Darwin, followed by Australia fortifying the north coast.


Adam, just curious. In your scenario, what would be the most likely reason for Australia to go to war with Indonesia?

Originally posted by 1119
Adam, just curious. In your scenario, what would be the most likely reason for Australia to go to war with Indonesia?
1) Australia's government will continue doing what it is told by the USA and the UN. This will anger Islamic nations in particular.

2) Indonesia is the world's largest Islamic nation, and is a mere 12 hours away by ship.

3) Australia's special forces units will be asked by the USA and UN to go on missions within Indonesia, which of course will upset everyone.

4) Upsetting nations and causing division is actually the desired goal of the USA at the moment, as it allows them to build an "us and them" situation, which is good for their economy and good leverage in international relations.

5) Due to Australian provocation (those missions) and the rising tensions around the world, Indonesia will attack Darwin. Not with the purpose of actually securing territory, but simply to kick Australia's arse for a little while. Indonesia's government will know that both sides will lose people, but they have such a huge army that they won't mind; politicians are bastards and are often quite happy to get their soldiers killed.

6) When the cost of the exercise runs out to the budgeted limit, Indonesia will withdraw, and a new set of border treaties will be worked out.

So, Vichy Adam, are you going to pick up a loaded gun to defend your homeland from the evil Indonesian hordes, or are you just going to hold up a piece of painted-letter cardboard that protests evil Austrailian provocation of the invasion to earn brownie points with the invaders?

At least try for something rational...

Rational is lost on you. You only see what you want to see--what you can see.

Plausible scenario, Adam. If things persist the way they are now, it might not take 50 years.

But there is always the prospect of terrorism as "weapon of choice" for ill-equipped countries that cannot afford to win a conventional war. Indonesia could go cheap and secretly fund terrorist cells in Australia to blow things up. That way they can put up a diplomatic face and still kick some butts.

That is very true. But I think that if we went as far as state-sponsored hostilities, the politicians would want it public, to embarrass Australia. I also think that the moment another country starts backing guerilla attacks in Australia, our ASIS chaps will be blowing things up in those countries.

From John Moore, M. P., Minister of Defence, as printed in the Australian Defence Force White Paper 2000, section 3.6:

Domestically, the United States will continue to accept the human and material costs of supporting causes that directly touch its vital interests.


It's really quite an interesting little book. I had the hardcopy delivered last year.

Interesting quote, Adam. Although I'm slightly puzzled. When he said "domestically" was he referring to Australia or United States? It appears as if he was saying United States is okay with human and material cost incurred in Australia as long as it serves their vital interest.

I must admit I'm lost as to the context of that quote. If he's saying what I think he is saying, then I must agree - politicians are bastards who are quite happy to get their soldiers killed.

In 13 years, there wont be many people left to make any changes.

He was referring to in the USA. He talks abit about how the USA military acts overseas to pursue US interests, and Australia supports it because it's in our interest to do so.

Havent had time to think about it Vortex.

It will be all the United Nation of Lockwoodia :P

the us will start ww4 with drones. We will reorganize the world into 10 provinces. The war to do that would last 4 years with 200million drones armed with energy weapons

Russia will support Iran in making nukes, so that it can treathen US agression,...

VN sends peace force "UNOIRAQ" into whole region, europe provides forces thogether with Russia. Americans begin to pull out Iraq and relocate their forces to Asian region, in preparation for conflict on the North-korean penisula.
"UNOIRAQ" gets bombed in the first month by US secret service, which forces the drawback from peace force, leaving Iraq itself in chaos and civil war,...
US says: you see what you get without us? They will return later and seize TOTAL controll this time, policing the state and the drilling the oil-fields.

US strikes NK's nuclear plant preempitively, NK strikes back with nukes on the american west coast, US strikes back NK is gone,...

2004 since everybody started to use their nukes anyway,....it provokes NUKLEAR war between pakistan and India, both sides stating it was not them who deployed these dreadfull means first,..now Pakistan, India and NK are gone,...

US forces now ocupy Iraq, invade Iran.
Russia declears war on US, deploys tactical forces onto Alaska
US destroys Russia's tactical forces in Alaska.
Israel takes Syria
Lybia, Egypt and Jordan side thogether against Israel, as Israel expected and wanted:
Israel nukes them,...
Saudi Arabia bursts out in civil war, trow over the goverment and faces US forces who take over control of goverment.

[Detainment camps based on quantanamo bay-model, raise everywhere]

2005 UN asks politely if they want to accept a peace agreement. they don't.
2006 Europe sides with Russia, US nuke them, EU and Russia counterstrike, most of US gone now, but US forces still intact, while EU and Russian forces mostly destroyed,....

China declares war on US forces, US nukes China.

2006 The world is mostly destroyed by nuclear blasts now,...Africa mostly succumbed in radiation from the fall out.
fractions and army's fight eachother.
US forces try to occupy south America but tactical forces became to weak, so they nuke'em. South America destroyed.

2007 With the most tactical forces gone, the nukes deployed (almost no more land that's NOT radiating)

2008-2040 there's a long guerillia war being fought.


somehow everybody totally forgot to nuke Australia,...as refugees build up the 'new pangea' humanity slowly recovers from the nuclear winters,...
and the fall out,....

2042 Aliens make contact with humans once again in history.
The atmosphere recovers with help from sientific technology that came from the stars, to help the human race survive,....

2050 at last,....humans terra-form Mars and start colonising the cosmos,...it cost them dearly to realise what the difference is between progress and destruction.

2090 My body dies,.....I live on in my clone,...I live to see the universe,....thank you aliens for an extended life!