In order to prevent Bypass Surgery or Angioplasti is it possible to prevent blockages in artery?

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

Does intense Pranayam solve this problem?

P.J.LAKHAPATE

In order to prevent Bypass Surgery or Angioplasti is it possible to prevent blockages in artery?

The best preventative methods are to not smoke, maintain proper HDL/LDL cholesterol levels and exercise. Avoid drinking in excess to maintain a healthy liver.

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

No. There is currently no such treatment available.

Does intense Pranayam solve this problem?

No. There is absolutely no evidence that it helps in any way.

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

Noble laureate Linus Pauling was an advocate in the last years of his life for using 5 grams/day of the amino acid L-Lysine as a treatment for arterial deposits.

Look it up on Google.

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?


I use Plavix which is a prescription type of medicine to prevent artery plaque build up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plavix

The best preventative methods are to not smoke, maintain proper HDL/LDL cholesterol levels and exercise. Avoid drinking in excess to maintain a healthy liver.



No. There is currently no such treatment available.



No. There is absolutely no evidence that it helps in any way.


Read is right, HDL and VHDL cholesterol are the main problem in causing your arteriest to get clogged. you want to have a high level of LDL cholesterol which is maintained through proper diet and exercise.

this SHOULD be the primary prevention method!

No one has mentioned genetics yet. The only people I know with problems are those with a genetic history. They don't smoke, drink, or have an unhealthy lifestyle. The most recent is my aunt whose cholesterol levels are dangerously high and she is the poster child for perfect health otherwise. She has cholesterol issues on both sides of her parents'/families.

No one has mentioned genetics yet. The only people I know with problems are those with a genetic history. They don't smoke, drink, or have an unhealthy lifestyle. The most recent is my aunt whose cholesterol levels are dangerously high and she is the poster child for perfect health otherwise. She has cholesterol issues on both sides of her parents'/families.

well not much we can do about that......

yes there is a hereditary issue regarding HDL and VHDL cholesterol, this is why heredity is considered a risk factor. When I train clients a brief family history is required in the PAR-Q to determine their risk factors. Other than being AWARE of your family history, which many people are not......there is not much you can do about that dept HOWEVER

Science has shown that even in those who have high density level cholesterol issues through heredity, proper exercise and diet can help in reducing HDL and increasing LDL......so heredity imho is not an excuse

well not much we can do about that......

yes there is a hereditary issue regarding HDL and VHDL cholesterol, this is why heredity is considered a risk factor. When I train clients a brief family history is required in the PAR-Q to determine their risk factors. Other than being AWARE of your family history, which many people are not......there is not much you can do about that dept HOWEVER

Science has shown that even in those who have high density level cholesterol issues through heredity, proper exercise and diet can help in reducing HDL and increasing LDL......so heredity imho is not an excuse

I don't think heridity is an excuse but it is a factor that those predisposed should monitor starting at an early age.

You can try Dean Ornish's reversal of heart disease regimen.

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199755695&sr=8-2

You can try Dean Ornish's reversal of heart disease regimen.

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199755695&sr=8-2
I'm suprised at you sam. I'd have thought the answer was obvious.

Renounce your american citizenship.

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?I predict that bio-nanotechnology will provide the solution to this before any other line of research does. Just send a flotilla of nanobots through the bloodstream, having a mission similar to that of white blood cells but with broader scope and powers to match. Destroy anything they find that doesn't belong there, whether it's a hostile organism or a plaque deposit.Noble laureate Linus Pauling was an advocate in the last years of his life for using 5 grams/day of the amino acid L-Lysine as a treatment for arterial deposits.Pauling was at my university and I had great respect for him, but we all have our failings and he had his. He went way over the fringe with some of his health and nutritional advice. He was a chemist, not a biologist.I'm suprised at you sam. I'd have thought the answer was obvious. Renounce your american citizenship.I presume you're referring to the fact that the Mexicans eat lots of fat, the Italians drink wine with every meal, the French put chocolate in their baby formula and the Japanese consume all that mercury, yet they all live longer than we do. The usual punchline to that joke is: "It's speaking English that kills you!"

EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.

EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.
Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

Pauling was at my university and I had great respect for him, but we all have our failings and he had his. He went way over the fringe with some of his health and nutritional advice.
I dont know if he was right or not about his Lysine treatment. How do you know he was wrong?

Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

No specific links but if you google edta chelation you will find tons of information.

Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

EDTA or ethylene diamine tetra-acetate is a calcium chelator in cell cultures, but not sure if it works with serum calcium.

EDTA complexes with Manganese, Iron copper and cobalt

Just remembered it is used in hypercalcemia and lead poisoning so yes it should chelate serum calcium

EDTA or ethylene diamine tetra-acetate is a calcium chelator

It does not remove calcium.

It should. It works excellently in cell cultures and we use it to collect unclotted blood samples by using EDTA coated tubes that bind calcium making it unavailable for the clotting cascade.

However serum calcium is maintained very strictly within a range by a collaboration between vitamin D and parathyroid hormone, so you should not feel adverse effects from it (within limits)

I dont know if he was right or not about his Lysine treatment. How do you know he was wrong?

I can't address his Lysine treatment but Pauling was one of my chemist heroes. It was a big letdown for me when his claims about vitamin C turned out to be false.

As Fraggle said, he was a chemist and NOT a biologist - and certainly not a biological chemist. He would have done well to have stayed within his field.

Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

How artery blockages can be prevented?

Die very young, say before 30.

It should. It works excellently in cell cultures and we use it to collect unclotted blood samples by using EDTA coated tubes that bind calcium making it unavailable for the clotting cascade.

However serum calcium is maintained very strictly within a range by a collaboration between vitamin D and parathyroid hormone, so you should not feel adverse effects from it (within limits)
Instead of saying serum calcium I should have said intercellular calcium...because it only becomes a problem after entering a weakened cell in toxic quantities.

From Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy#Heart_disease

"Some alternative practitioners use chelation to treat hardening of the arteries. The original theory behind calcium chelation therapy was that EDTA forms a complex with the calcium in the walls of arteries.

Drawbacks with this theory include EDTA's inability to penetrate the cell walls in the arteries and therefore inability to access the calcium, EDTA binding preferentially to other metals, and calcium posing minimal arterial danger in comparison to cholesterol and other deposits. A number of dangers have been associated with the therapy including hypocalcaemia, decreased blood coagulation ability (perhaps hypocalcaemia related), and the risk of leaching of necessary trace metals.

The safety and efficacy of EDTA chelation therapy as a treatment for coronary artery disease are being assessed by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine in a five-year study which began in 2002."

So to speak for himself, here is a brief interview with Linus Pauling on the rational behind his Lysine treatment:

http://www.healthyheartht.info/lastinterview.htm

Excerpts from the last interview with Dr. Linus Pauling

Q: You are recommending vitamin C and lysine for the treatment of cardiovascular disease. How exactly does lysine help to prevent cardiovascular disease?

Many investigators contributed to showing that lipoprotein A is what is deposited in plaques, not just LDL, but lipoprotein A. If you have more than 20mg/dI in your blood it begins depositing plaques and atherosclerosis so the question then is what causes lipoprotein A to stick to the wall of the artery and cause these plaques? Well countless biochemists and other chemists are pretty smart people and they discovered what it is in the wall of the artery that causes lipoprotein A to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form atherosclerotic plaques and ultimately lead to heart disease, strokes and peripheral arterial disease. The answer is there is a particular amino acid in a protein in the wall of the artery - lysine, which is one of the twenty amino acids that binds the lipoprotein A and causes atherosclerotic plaques to develop. I think it is a very important discovery.

Well, now, if you know that there are residues of lysine, lysyl residues, that hold the lipoprotein A to the wall of the artery and cause hardening of the arteries, then any chemist, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is to prevent that by puffing the amino acid lysine in the blood to greater extent than is normally. Of course you get lysine normally in your food. Meat in particular contains a good bit of lysine. And you need lysine to be alive, it is an essential amino acid, you have to get about a gram a day to keep in protein balance, but you can take lysine, pure lysine, a perfectly non toxic substance in food, as 500mg tablets and that puts extra lysine molecules in the blood. They enter into competition with the lysyl residues on the wall of artery and accordingly count to prevent the lipoproteinA from being deposited or even will work to pull it loose and destroy the atherosclerotic plaques.

Q: Do you think the treatment of lysine and vitamin C can reverse the atherosclerotic process?

I think so. Yes. Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes by the proper use of vitamin C and lysine. It can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it. If you are at risk of heart disease, or if there is a history of heart disease in your family; if your father or other members of the family died of a heart attack or stroke or whatever, or if you have a mild heart attack yourself then you had better be taking vitamin C and lysine.

Q: You are recommending vitamin C and lysine for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
How exactly does lysine help to prevent cardiovascular disease?

Many investigators contributed to showing that lipoprotein A is what is deposited in plaques, not just LDL, but lipoprotein A. If you have more than 20mg/dI in your blood it begins depositing plaques and atherosclerosis so the question then is what causes lipoprotein A to stick to the wall of the artery and cause these plaques? Well countless biochemists and other chemists are pretty smart people and they discovered what it is in the wall of the artery that causes lipoprotein A to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form atherosclerotic plaques and ultimately lead to heart disease, strokes and peripheral arterial disease. The answer is there is a particular amino acid in a protein in the wall of the artery - lysine, which is one of the twenty amino acids that binds the lipoprotein A and causes atherosclerotic plaques to develop. I think it is a very important discovery.

Well, now, if you know that there are residues of lysine, lysyl residues, that hold the lipoprotein A to the wall of the artery and cause hardening of the arteries, then any chemist, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is to prevent that by puffing the amino acid lysine in the blood to greater extent than is normally. Of course you get lysine normally in your food. Meat in particular contains a good bit of lysine. And you need lysine to be alive, it is an essential amino acid, you have to get about a gram a day to keep in protein balance, but you can take lysine, pure lysine, a perfectly non toxic substance in food, as 500mg tablets and that puts extra lysine molecules in the blood. They enter into competition with the lysyl residues on the wall of artery and accordingly count to prevent the lipoproteinA from being deposited or even will work to pull it loose and destroy the atherosclerotic plaques.

Q: Do you think the treatment of lysine and vitamin C can reverse the atherosclerotic process?

I think so. Yes. Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes by the proper use of vitamin C and lysine. It can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it. If you are at risk of heart disease, or if there is a history of heart disease in your family; if your father or other members of the family died of a heart attack or stroke or whatever, or if you have a mild heart attack yourself then you had better be taking vitamin C and lysine.

As I understand blood pH plays vital role.
If it is slightly below 7 , precipitation will be less.
Is it true that Aspirin tablets are given for reducing blood pH.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
pjl1954@yahoo.com

Do not eat fat foods
Exercise daily, sweating during it
take ginko and genseng supplements for blood flow increase

Interesting... most animals can produce there own vitamin C as an enzyme. Primates - including humans, have lost the ability to make vitamin C and must obtain it from external sources.


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Heart Disease


A simple Cure



Why blockages form.

After investigators determined that Lp(a) causes atherosclerosis, the next question for scientists became: "What causes these "fat" molecules to stick to the artery wall?" The Nobel prize winning answer turned out to be amino acid residues -- the so-called Lysine (and Proline) Binding Sites or LBS.

The Lp(a) or "cholesterol" binding sites are really just collagen protein (amino acid) residues that becomes exposed when blood vessels "crack." These exposed residues attract the Lp(a) molecules creating the plaque.

. . . A very important discovery. . .

What if the sticky Lp(a) molecules could be reduced, or were attracted some place other than the damaged arterial wall?

"Knowing that lysyl residues are what causes lipoprotein-(a) to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form plaques, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is prevent that by putting the amino acid lysine in the blood to a greater extent than it is normally." [Linus Pauling, JON, Aug. '94]

Pauling/Rath's invention is to increase the lysine concentration in the blood serum causing Lp(a) to bind with lysine molecules in the blood rendering the Lp(a) inactive.

Today, there are more than 1100 MEDLINE (US National Medical Database) references to Lp(a). These reports confirm the Nobel prize winning research paper of Brown-Goldstein and provide a solid foundation for the Pauling Unified Theory. The fundamental and now generally recognized scientific fact is that Lp(a) cholesterol molecules bind to blood vessel walls via the Lysine and Proline Binding Sites forming atherosclerotic plaques and occlusive cardiovascular disease.

A corollary is that ordinary LDL (so-called "bad") cholesterol is not the primary cause of plaque build-up, any more than calcium.

Massive research now supports the insight of Pauling/Rath, who well ahead of his time in 1994 pointed out, "If you have more than 20mg/dl of Lp(a) in your blood it begins depositing plaques causing atherosclerosis."

The Pauling/Rath U. S. Patent # 5,278,189 is for the prevention and treatment of occlusive cardiovascular disease with vitamin C and substances that inhibit the binding of lipoprotein-(a). The patent provides a method for the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular disease, such as atherosclerosis, by administering therapeutically effective dosages of a formula composed of vitamin C, lipoprotein-(a) binding inhibitors (e.g., lysine and proline or their analogs) and antioxidants.

Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath discovered that substances that inhibit the binding of lipoprotein-(a) also cause lipoprotein-(a) to be released from the arterial wall. According to the patent, a binding inhibitor (e.g., lysine or lysine analog) used alone or in conjunction with vitamin C, finds Lp(a) in the blood and binds with it before the molecule can reach the walls of arteries. At high enough concentrations, the lysine in the blood attracts Lp(a) in the existing plaques and will dissolve the plaque.

The inescapable conclusion is that the essential, very low cost and completely nontoxic amino acid lysine, when taken with vitamin C in amounts far larger than one normally consumes in the diet, may reduce or may even eliminate Lp(a) based atherosclerosis in human beings.

The lysine treatment mechanism doesn't depend on the reason the Lp(a) based plaque forms. It really doesn't matter whether the arterial lesions were caused by mechanical stress, a vitamin deficiency, oxidized cholesterol, elevated homo-cysteine, fat in the diet, or even little green men.

That was very useful.

EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.

Does anybody know why FDA has not approved EDTA chelation treatment?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

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Does anybody know why FDA has not approved EDTA chelation treatment?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Consider this; the drug companies have the medical universities, doctors and training hospitals, and the FDA in their pockets. It does not pay them to promote cheap generic treatments, therefore all avenues to official research for alternative treatments are blocked by beureaucracy and prohibitive costs; who is going to pay for a double blind study involving hundreds or thousands of people over a number of years, if all they have to gain is worth less than the costs of the study? As you rightly guessed, nobody is.

However, many practitioners have conducted their own private studies based on their patient's histories and published accounts/books do exist; it's just a matter of searching for them. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the drug companies do not provide adequate treatments for many diseases, but sometimes they intentionally miss the point in order to make bucks, and older established cheaper treatments are left to rot and are virtually forgotten. Fortunately, a few contrarian practitioners have bothered to check out the older treatments and have found them to be, in many cases, superior to the modern and more expensive or even more dangerous alternatives.

So there you go, at the end of the day it depends on how contrarian you are in your attitudes and on how much faith you hold to the official line. Personally I prefer to do my own research and use my own logic before I decide, rightly or wrongly, what treatment is right for me.

Cholesterol Myths:
http://www.thincs.org/links.htm
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_2.html

I think a lot of research now debunks the cholesterol theories.

Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

and the reverse. all those non-climatologist GW 'scientists' who have a hard time reading a thermometer.... and especially to dismiss non-scientists like Al 'the Preacher' Gore.

Does it help to drink lemon juice early in the morning ?
P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Does it help to drink lemon juice early in the morning ?

If you want to reduce the pH level perhaps? But is not the blood pH should be 7.3? If you make it acidic, then the system goes out of whack and the body will create fat cells to buffer acid....

Perhaps drink a diluted KOH or Mg(OH)2 solution in the morning?

Fish oil, specifically omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids have a beneficial effect against various disorders including coronary heart disease, high blood pressure and rheumatoid arthritis.

The mackerals and tunas are high in these oils, although most fish have at least some of these oils present.

Red wine too has a beneficial effect. In moderation so they say. 2-3 glasses, 4 times a week.
* spud takes big slurp to keep doctor at bay*

My mother lived to be over 95 years old and she never had a heart problem and she never excercised but ate whatever she wanted in moderation.

What was her diet?

What was her diet?

She ate everything except vegetables.

She ate everything except vegetables.

And here we are told to eat Vegetables...otherwise we will die early....

That must be good genes...

Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries.
If these bacteria are multiplied faster then this problem arises.
These bacteria may be from the curd.
Is this true?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries. If these bacteria are multiplied faster then this problem arises. These bacteria may be from the curd. Is this true?According to the website Microbiology and Bacteriology (http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Microtextbook/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=174&page=1), there is a correlation between infection by Chlamydia pneumoniae and atherosclerosis. This is a difficult line of research to pursue since this species of Chlamydia is one of the most common bacteria in our environment and around 70% of humans are unknowingly infected with it.

The problem facing researchers is to avoid committing an ancient fallacy that is even more common than this microorganism itself :): Post hoc ergo propter hoc, "Correlation implies causation."

I'm not much of a biologist but it appears that so far evidence is largely circumstantial. The primary cause of atherosclerosis is white blood cells attacking deposits of low-density lipoproteins (LDL or "bad cholesterol") in the arteries, deposits which virtually all humans have, starting in adolescence. This can be seen as sort of a "false alarm," an erroneous triggering of the body's autoimmune response, which then goes awry. The complicated chemistry and physics (I can read it with a glimmer of understanding but it gives me a headache) results in the blockages becoming larger rather than smaller. One day they block blood flow to a vital organ (stroke or heart attack), enlarge an artery which then encroaches on other tissue (aneurism), or block blood flow to a non-vital but nonetheless important site (atheroma).

However, evidence indicates that this particular mechanism is the cause of arterial blockage in only half of cases. (I have no idea how strong or controversial this evidence may be.) Scientists have had some success inducing these symptoms in laboratory animals by injecting them with C. pneumoniae. But, judging by what I have read, they're still a long way from providing good solid support for this theory. Still, this line of research is about ten years old so there may be recent developments that are not accessible to laymen.

You'll have to investigate it for yourself and form your own opinion, but if you're not highly educated in this biological specialty it will be exceedingly difficult. You may just have to wait for the experts to decide, or else pursue your own postgraduate degree in this field so you can participate in the research.

In any case, if by "curd" you're referring specifically to cheese, I see no discussion of that link. The various species of Chlamydia are widespread in the environment and some others are common causes of annoying but not life-threatening ailments in humans (particularly women), as well as deadly infections in birds.

EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass;...Absolutely - No question about it! BUT that is more expensive than:

Keeping a penny dated with your birth year in your pocket, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking. :D

Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries. ...Is that true?Probably true, but for several different types of bacteria (Possibly none of the anaerobic ones?) For at least 10 years, the role of inflamation of arterial walls has been considered the reason why cholestrol deposits on them - sort of the body's effort to keep oxygen away from the bacteria that have caused the inflamation, I think.

Is it that bacteria consumes oxygen hence adequate oxygen is not available to the body and hence LDL , VLDL and Tryglyceride formation takes place ?

This kind of thinking seems to be probable because of my personal experience.
I was doing the necessary exercise and eating nutritous food.Yet I had to undergo bypass surgery.

Now I want to ensure that other arteries will not be totally blocked.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Is it that bacteria consumes oxygen hence adequate oxygen is not available to the body...No. That was not my speculation. I do not think it is known why LDL etc deposits on the artery wall, but it is now quite well accepted that it does so in areas that are inflamed and that inflamation, if not due to mechanical causes, is usually due to infections (bacteria). I also have a strong general belief that the body has many modes of adptation to stresses - trys to maintain homestatus. If there were bacterial surface infection on the interior wall of an artery, I think the bacteria would get a significant part of its needed oxygen from the blood of the artery. (Some oxygen from the blood circulating in the artery wall itself, perhaps also). Thus, one way for the body to adapt -fight the infection - would be to coat the area with some wax-like substance to imped the transport of oxygen to the bacteria. - That is all speculation on my part, but seems to me to be a plausible reason why colesteroil deposits on the arterial wall.

I also tend to believe that the fever that comes with most systemic infections is an adaptation of the body - the biochemisty of the bacteria will speed up and this will make it need more energy (it sugar foods) and Oxygen.
I have not taken asprin for more than 40 years to depress a small fever. - Finally medical science is now coming around to my POV and recomending not to take asprin for mild fevers.

One of my original and favorate statements is: "My body is smarter than all the doctors put together." *I rarely visit a doctor, except for annual checkup, mainly of PSA level. In the 14+ years I have been in Brazil, only once did I visit a doctor and then take an anti-biotic. That was after giving my body a week to get well on its own; However one thing to also remember, is that bacteria etc. have been evolving their "attack skills" for eons so your body's highly evolved "defense systems" do not always win the battle with them. Without much concern, I will put my well exercised immune system up against "bird flu" or most other agents many fear.
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*My father was a "country doctor" - A GP. One of his favorate statements was: "I am in partnership with 'mother nature.' - She cures 'em, and I send out the bills."

Vitamin C seems to be good for inflammation and low-level bacterial infections. Selenium is good too.

I've heard good things about barley tea. Allegedly barley tea completely cleaned out arterial deposits in one test in the mid 1980s. Unfortunately the magazine article didn't say where the test was conducted or by whom, but barley tea is a low risk and low impact regimen. Flaxseed oil is supposed to be good also, and garlic.

For preventing artery blockages one must know whether artery blockages are there or not.

Other than Angiography is there any other method by which artery blockages can be detected?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

For preventing artery blockages one must know whether artery blockages are there or not.

Other than Angiography is there any other method by which artery blockages can be detected?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

CT scans; MRI: Ultrasound (requires specialist operator)

CT scans; MRI: Ultrasound (requires specialist operator)Not sure, but almost so: On the ultrasound I think it is Doppler -I.e. the narrow section has higher speed blood flowing thru it.

I came to know that Triglyceride is a sticky substance.
It sticks inside the artery.
When calcium present in the blood deposits inside the artery , the blockage occurs.
It is claimed that 75% of the blockages are made up of Calcium.
What are the Decalcification methods to clear the blockages?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

One of the best ways to prevent as well as reduce artery blockage is through the use of omega vitamines. A daily dose of flax seed oil or flax seed is a good way to start. Flax golden cereal is a great way to start the day. Nutritional studies (this is just from memory, sorry I can't quote one) have shown that omega vitamines are the best way for prevention as well as reduction of artery blockage, unless it is embolic or due to injury of the artery wall.

As I understand blood pH plays vital role.
If it is slightly below 7 , precipitation will be less.
Is it true that Aspirin tablets are given for reducing blood pH.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
pjl1954@yahoo.com

Life would be very unpleasant with a blood pH less than 7. You would end up in the hospital either on a ventilator or a bipap for respiratory support. The normal pH ranges from 7.35 to 7.45. It is dangerous to try and drink anything that would change this internal balance. Talk to someone before you try this, I would not like to see you in the emergency department. As far as using Aspirin tablets it is used to "thin" the blood during and after a heart attack. Makes it a bit hard to clot as well.

...As far as using Aspirin tablets it is used to "thin" the blood ...While sounding true, that says nothing about the mechanism. Doctors, in general are taught in med school to learn correct "procedures" not to think about mechanisms - why things happen. Thus, they often make statements that seem to have "mechanistic content" but do not. I.e. in this case, does the average space between the blood cells increase when aspirin is in the blood? I.e. the fluid to cell mass ratio is increased? - That would be my idea of "thinning the blood", but I happen to know that is not the main way aspirin helps. Before telling how it does, I will give my favorite example of a doctor's sort of "zero mechanistic content," but useful statement to a patient. (Part of the "procedure" he probably learned in med school, very likely in the self-protection from lawsuit class.):


"Don't drive or operate machinery after taking these pills for your pain as they contain a narcoleptic agent which causes drowsiness." At least 95% of all doctors have no idea as to the mechanism of morphine's etc. action. There is just too much to learn in med school. (I do think medical students have time for at least one class in "fancy words impress" psychology, - make larger fees acceptible.)

This "follow the proceedure" POV was vividly illustrated to me while working on a monkey with a neurosurgeon I greatly admire for his skill. We had exposed the monkey's spinal cord's sheath (called the "Dura" as it is tough) and dropped a steel ball directly on it thru a guide tube from a standard height. We then waiting our standard half hour to simulate the ride from car crash to hospital operating table before starting to perfuse the injured region. Three needles were inserted thru the Dura sheath during that wait. One was above and one was below the injury site for the entrance and exit of the "cocktail of drugs" solution under test. This solution came from a beaker on an elevated platform by "gravity flow."

The third needle was inserted in the neck, as near the brain as possible. That required some more exposure of the Dura. This needle connected to a pressure gauge. If too much pressure is applied to the cerebral spinal fluid in the brain the brain’s blood vessels will compress and the monkey’s will die in a few minutes. (Not sure I remember, but think 40 or 50 cm of water was a "safe limit.") I tried during several different operations to explain that so long as we made sure highest liquid in the beaker supplying the perfusion fluid was less than 40 cm above the table the monkey was resting on that there was no need for the third needle's connection to the pressure gauge or the associated second exposure of the Dura. The doctor completely understood my argument, but "that was not the procedure."*

Now to the mechanism of "blood thinning" (by memory): Typically a red blood cell lives about a month but like the lenses in your eye, becomes stiffer / less deformable with age. This tends to make them slow, perhaps even get stuck for a while in the fine capillaries. Aspirin helps keep the blood cells more flexible as they age. Not sure now, but think the aspirin molecule becomes attached to some specific place(s) on the cell to do this. In the fine capillaries, as I recall, the cell tends to "tank tread" as well as roll along one wall side. Perhaps the "tank treading" is how the oxygen is "unbound" but I am just speculation on this. - Perhaps no one knows? Perhaps the higher local CO2 has changed the pH to facilitate the "unbinding" - Dose anyone know how the O2 is released?
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*If he did as I was suggesting, perhaps the paper to follow would be rejected. My name is on a few of those papers, so I kept quite after a few tries, especially after one monekey tried to bite me later. That can be very dangerous if they have a "Simian B" virus - only a "cold" for them, but often fatal to humans. Fortunate, he only slightly scratched me and I immediately sucked and spit out blood from etc from the scratch, even making it bleed more to "wash" wound area.

Life would be very unpleasant with a blood pH less than 7. You would end up in the hospital either on a ventilator or a bipap for respiratory support. The normal pH ranges from 7.35 to 7.45.

In the competition to selling water at $8.00 per gallon, some companies are selling slightly alkaline water perhaps a pH of 7.4. Yes it is dangerous to make blood fluid acidic as body will be hard at work to balance the pH. Since pH curve is non-linear, it will take progressively more work as the pH goes down....

The best solution is REM sleep and let the body repair on its own. There was aCBS 60 minutes piece on sleep that shows you how the body does not work well with lack of sleep.

Inflammation is a major cause of many problems including rapid aging. Make sure to keep it down through food nutrition....Asian Indian professionals (in India or USA) eat well and yet have a lot of heart problems. My theory is, that is due to stress period.

Recent study shows that heart disease is due to Nano-bacteria.

If this true than we need bacteriacide to kill those bacteria.

This indicates that this disease is curable.

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Recent study shows that heart disease is due to Nano-bacteria....I have not seen or heard of this -do you have a link or reference?

I have not seen or heard of this -do you have a link or reference?

In 2004 a Mayo Clinic team led by infectious disease expert, Franklin Cockerill, MD, PhD, John Lieske, MD, and Virginia M. Miller, PhD. at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota reports to have isolated nanobacteria in diseased human arteries and kidney stones. Their results were accepted and published in 2004 and 2006 respectively.[7][8] These findings were confirmed in 2005 by László Puskás, PhD at the DNA Lab, University of Szeged, Hungary. Dr. Puskás identified these particles in cultures obtained from human atherosclerotic aortic walls and blood samples of atherosclerotic patients but the group was unable to detect DNA in these samples.[9] For historical interest it has to be noted that the content of the referred paper was originally submitted to Nature as "Letter to Editor" for fast publication several years earlier. It was rejected after almost four months of peer-review process on the basis of the lack of detection of any kind of genetic material.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacterium

In 2004 a Mayo Clinic team led by infectious disease expert, Franklin Cockerill, MD, PhD, John Lieske, MD, and Virginia M. Miller, PhD. at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota reports to have isolated nanobacteria in diseased human arteries and kidney stones. Their results were accepted and published in 2004 and 2006 respectively.[7][8] These findings were confirmed in 2005 by László Puskás, PhD at the DNA Lab, University of Szeged, Hungary. Dr. Puskás identified these particles in cultures obtained from human atherosclerotic aortic walls and blood samples of atherosclerotic patients but the group was unable to detect DNA in these samples.[9] ...Thanks. I read wiki article from which your above quote is taken. Also there is:

"... "Nanobac Oy" later absorbed in 2003 by a publicly traded Nanobacteria research company in Tampa, Florida founded by Nanobiotic developer Gary Mezo, 'Nanobac Pharmaceuticals, Inc.', to market medical diagnostic kits for identifying nanobacteria to medical researchers, and are developing prescription medical treatments for calcification-associated diseases. This has raised doubts concerning their impartiality ..."

Likewise, the nano-scale structure NASA thinks may be fossil remains of nanobacteria found in meteroite, ALH 84001, which is believed to be from Mars, I think, are also suspect as NASA needs to justify the millions spent on serch for exta-Earth life forms. Only the Mayo Clinic group is without stong bias towards the existence of any life related process being associated with "nanobacteria" and theyhave never observed any thing clearly indicating they are any aspect of life. All they claim is nano paricle are found is humans et. al. where calcium deposits. Thus I prefer to call them by the name many others do: "Calcifying Nano Particles, CNPs, not nanoBACTERIA, as they have none of the properties of BACTERIA not their size, lack both DNA and RNA, will not replicate - are only "found" basically as small calcium structures, typically as part of larger calcium deposts - Sort of like small quatrz crystals are often found as "inclusions" within larger ones.

Certainly the name "nanoBACTERIA" IS A GROSS DISTORTION of the know facts common to ALL BACTERIA, including the ability to produce at least one specific disease. (Just being found in calcium deposit on arterial walls or in kidney stones, is not evidence that they even cause these aflictions. Until there is some direct evidence that they can at least repilcate, I will call then non-living CNPs.

In contrast consider the Prions. They also have no DNA, very likely no RNA yet they come in various forms that cause specific disease (mad cow disease, and at leas 10 others.) I do not think it is fully know how they replicat, but they do - small inculation will fill the cow´s brain with them in a few months. etc. It is sort a border line case to call either virus or prion a life form, and can go either way with different definition of life; but there is no way that the CNPs should be considered life (unless as is the case with main proponets of that POV you are selling a product related to detecting these dangerous nanobacterial life forms.) ;) Again:

Certainly the name "nanoBACTERIA" IS A GROSS DISTORTION.

Closely related are:
"Nanobes are tiny filamental structures first found in some rocks and sediments. Some hypothesize that they are the smallest form of life, 1/10th the size of the smallest known bacteria. Nanobes were discovered in 1996 (published in American Mineralogist, vol 83., 1998) by Philipa Uwins, University of Queensland, Australia.[1] They were found growing from rock samples (both full-diameter and sidewall cores) of Jurassic and Triassic sandstones, originally retrieved from an unspecified number of oil exploration wells off Australia's west coast. Depths of retrieval were between 3400 and 5100m below sea bed. ..."

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobe

These are about the same size, as I recal, as the long thin "whiskers" that grow on metal tin. I do not want to be "left behind" in the "new life-form movement" so, let me here-by be the first to suggest these "tin whiskers" are a new form of "metalic life." :rolleyes: ;)

According to Swami Ramdevbaba(India) mainly one has to perform PRANAYAM (Breathing Exercise ) daily for one hour minimum.

This helps in clearing the artery blockages.

Also it reduces Trighycerides, LDL formation, High B.P.

Pls share your experiences about this fact.

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Fact?

My mother lived for over 95 years and never had anything wrong with her heart, she ate what she wanted but never overate and did not exercises at all. Her parents lived into their 100's. I'll be lucky to make it anywhere near that. What I believe helps is a good genetic background. If old age runs in your family then you will probably live long also as long as you balance everything in your life as best you can. Eat whatever you want just don't eat allot. ;)

The problem is if old age does not run in your family or that you changed the eating habits towards junk food from your parents....then what do you do? I think, in case of short lived lineage, you can improve that using healthy eating habits and reduce stress level.

One items I read is that get REM sleep everyday. That repairs the body every night. And eat a lot of fruits and vegetables.

Lately I am experiementing with protein shakes that the body builders use and found to be very energizing...someday, I can go to my local clinic, have them take my stem cells and freeze it for later use.....like when I am ready to go blind or something....

someday, I can go to my local clinic, have them take my stem cells and freeze it for later use.....like when I am ready to go blind or something....

They now find they can get stem cells from your body fat. So you can always have stem cells ready to use whenever you need them, no need to freeze them any longer.

more here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissue

Is it that anaerobic growth of bacteria cause the blockage in the artery?

If yes then some anti-biotic may help.

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Is it that anaerobic growth of bacteria cause the blockage in the artery?

If yes then some anti-biotic may help.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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what a proposterous idea! :p I am sure there are larger objects to block the arteries, than bacteria...

Oh my! Oh my!...I was wrong it seems: http://interactive.snm.org/index.cfm?PageID=4613&RPID=10

bacteria do seem to cause artery blockages

If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

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If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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...co-lateral arteries?!! :eek: geee...so that they would get clogged too? I suppose only nanomachines can do that...you cant just introduce arteries into a body...

If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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That's exactly right. And it's done by intensive exercise - ask anyone who has PAD (peripheral artery disease) what their doctor advised them to do.

...co-lateral arteries?!! :eek: geee...so that they would get clogged too? I suppose only nanomachines can do that...you cant just introduce arteries into a body...

Partially wrong - it can be done in the arms and legs. See my response to his question.

I can't address his Lysine treatment but Pauling was one of my chemist heroes. It was a big letdown for me when his claims about vitamin C turned out to be false.

As Fraggle said, he was a chemist and NOT a biologist - and certainly not a biological chemist. He would have done well to have stayed within his field.

Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

Did you look carefully at how Linus Pauling's claims were allegedly disproven and read his counterclaims?

That's exactly right. And it's done by intensive exercise - ask anyone who has PAD (peripheral artery disease) what their doctor advised them to do.

It is interesting to note that after Bypass Surgery I have to exercise intensively

to get collateral arteries developed.

What a fantastic natural arrangement of body !!!

No doctor has told me to exercise intensively .

However I have seen that my father was walking extensively even after second heart attack.

He survived six years after second heart attack.

The third and last heart attack was when he was at home (while resting).

Based on this knowledge I started doing more exercise and yogas after my
Bypass Surgery.(Now 6 months are over)

Everybody was telling me to do very limited exercise.

But I got good results after doing the exercise.

In fact two days ago I felt like ants moving in my heart(good sensation).

Is it that collateral arteries are forming in my heart?

I also feel very energatic and enthusiastic.

I checked blood sugar and B.P also (found o.k.)

How to know whether new collateral arteries are formed?

Pls share if anybody has similar experience.

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My blood pressure range is 150/90. So, I figure, the problem is plaques. For the last two months, I have been taking Lysine, Ginko, Metformin, Milk Thistle, Niacin etc. and cut out most sugar, oil from food, more vegetables and fruits, no soft drinks etc. Now the BP is 135/82. I have still a way to go. My dad died from heart attack, so I am trying to be careful. I do my normal exercises and light yoga.

Kmguru way to go! Dropping your blood pressure like that is a great start. Why are you taking Metformin? It raises lactic acid levels in the body. Are you Diabetic as well? I am sure you have spoken to a nutritional professional as part of your lifestyle. Again, I want to inform everyone of the benefits of omega vitamins found in flax brand. You can cosume it as an oil, powder, or cereal. It reduces artery build up as well as prevents it. Also, speak with your MD regarding a low dose of aspirin every day. Good luck.

I have done extensive research on Metformin. For the first 25 years of my life, I have lived on sugar products like a whole pound cake, twinkies etc with a glass of milk or half a cheese cake as my meal. My father had a similar diet and ended up as diabetic. So, it is a preventive measure and I am doing great. Several years ago, I had hypoglycemia and now it is gone. I no more drink Colas except once a month with two slices of pizza.

I think, abnormal glucose metabolism cause a lot of problems including AGE (Advanced Glycation Endproducts) Until ALT-711 or similar products are in the market, I will follow this path.

Yes, I do take Omega-3 pills when not eating Salmon. I like my DHA which helps my learning process when doing reseach in to new technologies.

Thank you.

Statins can cause plaque regression. A diet high in antioxidants helps, too.

Those of you who are on statins should be getting blood work done every 6 months or so. Statins are liver toxic to certain individuals or at certain doses. Other than that they are a great way to reduce your serum lipids.

I take Red Yeast Rice stacked....my friend took Lipitor and had all types of problems so the doctor told him to take Beta-Sitosterol (which I take too).

Die very young, say before 30.

He got a point, preventative measures can be taken but if you live long enough no matter what your chances of heart disease will be 100%. Maximum possible life span without replacing parts is 125 years.

Yeah, they have found fatty streaks (the beginning signs of atherosclerosis) on the blood vessels of fetuses and even healthy young men. You can actually have an artery partially occluded by a plaque and never notice. The problem starts when the plaque ruptures, and you get thrombus formation (ie. a blood clot).

Recently I read that watermelon seeds when dried,powdered and consumed

clear the artery blockage.

Is it true?

Has anybody experienced the same?

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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He got a point, preventative measures can be taken but if you live long enough no matter what your chances of heart disease will be 100%. Maximum possible life span without replacing parts is 125 years.But they've already got replacement hearts. By the time you kids reach 125 they'll have really good ones!

But they've already got replacement hearts. By the time you kids reach 125 they'll have really good ones!

Exactly!, but then why take preventative measures?

Recently I read that watermelon seeds when dried,powdered and consumed clear the artery blockage.


An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

Pls let me know how much zinc and iron is needed for a normal person ?

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Pls let me know how much zinc and iron is needed for a normal person ?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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Men: 15 mg
Women: 12 mg

The numbers I posted should be in milligrams and not grams. Adult Zinc needs are 12 mg per day and 18 mg for iron. If you are kicking your legs at night, you may need to increase the intake of your iron. As always, check with your doctor.

An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

One ounce is how many grams?

German scientists have found out that Silk Worm Enzymes (Serrapeptase) clear the artery blockages.

They claim that this is also suitable for various other diseases.

Has anybody tried above medicine for clearing Artery Blockages.

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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Has anybody used EDTA chelation method for clearing the artery blockages?
If yes share the experience.
P.J.LAKHAPATE

One ounce is how many grams?1 oz = 28.1 gm
1 lb = 454 gm