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plakhapate
01-07-08, 01:07 AM
In order to prevent Bypass Surgery or Angioplasti is it possible to prevent blockages in artery?

If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

Does intense Pranayam solve this problem?

P.J.LAKHAPATE

Read-Only
01-07-08, 01:45 AM
In order to prevent Bypass Surgery or Angioplasti is it possible to prevent blockages in artery?

The best preventative methods are to not smoke, maintain proper HDL/LDL cholesterol levels and exercise. Avoid drinking in excess to maintain a healthy liver.


If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

No. There is currently no such treatment available.


Does intense Pranayam solve this problem?

No. There is absolutely no evidence that it helps in any way.

Carcano
01-07-08, 06:57 AM
If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?

Noble laureate Linus Pauling was an advocate in the last years of his life for using 5 grams/day of the amino acid L-Lysine as a treatment for arterial deposits.

Look it up on Google.

cosmictraveler
01-07-08, 07:21 AM
If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?


I use Plavix which is a prescription type of medicine to prevent artery plaque build up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plavix

sly1
01-07-08, 09:36 AM
The best preventative methods are to not smoke, maintain proper HDL/LDL cholesterol levels and exercise. Avoid drinking in excess to maintain a healthy liver.



No. There is currently no such treatment available.



No. There is absolutely no evidence that it helps in any way.


Read is right, HDL and VHDL cholesterol are the main problem in causing your arteriest to get clogged. you want to have a high level of LDL cholesterol which is maintained through proper diet and exercise.

this SHOULD be the primary prevention method!

sandy
01-07-08, 09:40 AM
No one has mentioned genetics yet. The only people I know with problems are those with a genetic history. They don't smoke, drink, or have an unhealthy lifestyle. The most recent is my aunt whose cholesterol levels are dangerously high and she is the poster child for perfect health otherwise. She has cholesterol issues on both sides of her parents'/families.

sly1
01-07-08, 09:50 AM
No one has mentioned genetics yet. The only people I know with problems are those with a genetic history. They don't smoke, drink, or have an unhealthy lifestyle. The most recent is my aunt whose cholesterol levels are dangerously high and she is the poster child for perfect health otherwise. She has cholesterol issues on both sides of her parents'/families.

well not much we can do about that......

yes there is a hereditary issue regarding HDL and VHDL cholesterol, this is why heredity is considered a risk factor. When I train clients a brief family history is required in the PAR-Q to determine their risk factors. Other than being AWARE of your family history, which many people are not......there is not much you can do about that dept HOWEVER

Science has shown that even in those who have high density level cholesterol issues through heredity, proper exercise and diet can help in reducing HDL and increasing LDL......so heredity imho is not an excuse

sandy
01-07-08, 09:54 AM
well not much we can do about that......

yes there is a hereditary issue regarding HDL and VHDL cholesterol, this is why heredity is considered a risk factor. When I train clients a brief family history is required in the PAR-Q to determine their risk factors. Other than being AWARE of your family history, which many people are not......there is not much you can do about that dept HOWEVER

Science has shown that even in those who have high density level cholesterol issues through heredity, proper exercise and diet can help in reducing HDL and increasing LDL......so heredity imho is not an excuse

I don't think heridity is an excuse but it is a factor that those predisposed should monitor starting at an early age.

S.A.M.
01-07-08, 07:24 PM
You can try Dean Ornish's reversal of heart disease regimen.

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199755695&sr=8-2

superluminal
01-07-08, 07:34 PM
You can try Dean Ornish's reversal of heart disease regimen.

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199755695&sr=8-2
I'm suprised at you sam. I'd have thought the answer was obvious.

Renounce your american citizenship.

Fraggle Rocker
01-10-08, 03:28 PM
If blockages are already there is it possible to remove these blockages or dissolve it in some chemical which are body friendly?I predict that bio-nanotechnology will provide the solution to this before any other line of research does. Just send a flotilla of nanobots through the bloodstream, having a mission similar to that of white blood cells but with broader scope and powers to match. Destroy anything they find that doesn't belong there, whether it's a hostile organism or a plaque deposit.
Noble laureate Linus Pauling was an advocate in the last years of his life for using 5 grams/day of the amino acid L-Lysine as a treatment for arterial deposits.Pauling was at my university and I had great respect for him, but we all have our failings and he had his. He went way over the fringe with some of his health and nutritional advice. He was a chemist, not a biologist.
I'm suprised at you sam. I'd have thought the answer was obvious. Renounce your american citizenship.I presume you're referring to the fact that the Mexicans eat lots of fat, the Italians drink wine with every meal, the French put chocolate in their baby formula and the Japanese consume all that mercury, yet they all live longer than we do. The usual punchline to that joke is: "It's speaking English that kills you!"

tablariddim
01-10-08, 03:47 PM
EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.

Carcano
01-10-08, 03:58 PM
EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.
Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

Carcano
01-10-08, 04:01 PM
Pauling was at my university and I had great respect for him, but we all have our failings and he had his. He went way over the fringe with some of his health and nutritional advice.
I dont know if he was right or not about his Lysine treatment. How do you know he was wrong?

tablariddim
01-10-08, 04:07 PM
Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

No specific links but if you google edta chelation you will find tons of information.

S.A.M.
01-10-08, 04:09 PM
Ive heard about this too...got any links to controlled studies of this treatment.

I thought serum calcium was the target of chelation therapy for blocked arteries...not heavy metals.

EDTA or ethylene diamine tetra-acetate is a calcium chelator in cell cultures, but not sure if it works with serum calcium.

EDTA complexes with Manganese, Iron copper and cobalt

Just remembered it is used in hypercalcemia and lead poisoning so yes it should chelate serum calcium

tablariddim
01-10-08, 04:11 PM
EDTA or ethylene diamine tetra-acetate is a calcium chelator

It does not remove calcium.

S.A.M.
01-10-08, 04:13 PM
It should. It works excellently in cell cultures and we use it to collect unclotted blood samples by using EDTA coated tubes that bind calcium making it unavailable for the clotting cascade.

However serum calcium is maintained very strictly within a range by a collaboration between vitamin D and parathyroid hormone, so you should not feel adverse effects from it (within limits)

Read-Only
01-10-08, 04:15 PM
I dont know if he was right or not about his Lysine treatment. How do you know he was wrong?

I can't address his Lysine treatment but Pauling was one of my chemist heroes. It was a big letdown for me when his claims about vitamin C turned out to be false.

As Fraggle said, he was a chemist and NOT a biologist - and certainly not a biological chemist. He would have done well to have stayed within his field.

Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

cosmictraveler
01-10-08, 04:28 PM
How artery blockages can be prevented?

Die very young, say before 30.

Carcano
01-10-08, 05:54 PM
It should. It works excellently in cell cultures and we use it to collect unclotted blood samples by using EDTA coated tubes that bind calcium making it unavailable for the clotting cascade.

However serum calcium is maintained very strictly within a range by a collaboration between vitamin D and parathyroid hormone, so you should not feel adverse effects from it (within limits)
Instead of saying serum calcium I should have said intercellular calcium...because it only becomes a problem after entering a weakened cell in toxic quantities.

From Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy#Heart_disease

"Some alternative practitioners use chelation to treat hardening of the arteries. The original theory behind calcium chelation therapy was that EDTA forms a complex with the calcium in the walls of arteries.

Drawbacks with this theory include EDTA's inability to penetrate the cell walls in the arteries and therefore inability to access the calcium, EDTA binding preferentially to other metals, and calcium posing minimal arterial danger in comparison to cholesterol and other deposits. A number of dangers have been associated with the therapy including hypocalcaemia, decreased blood coagulation ability (perhaps hypocalcaemia related), and the risk of leaching of necessary trace metals.

The safety and efficacy of EDTA chelation therapy as a treatment for coronary artery disease are being assessed by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine in a five-year study which began in 2002."

Carcano
01-11-08, 06:54 AM
So to speak for himself, here is a brief interview with Linus Pauling on the rational behind his Lysine treatment:

http://www.healthyheartht.info/lastinterview.htm

Excerpts from the last interview with Dr. Linus Pauling

Q: You are recommending vitamin C and lysine for the treatment of cardiovascular disease. How exactly does lysine help to prevent cardiovascular disease?

Many investigators contributed to showing that lipoprotein A is what is deposited in plaques, not just LDL, but lipoprotein A. If you have more than 20mg/dI in your blood it begins depositing plaques and atherosclerosis so the question then is what causes lipoprotein A to stick to the wall of the artery and cause these plaques? Well countless biochemists and other chemists are pretty smart people and they discovered what it is in the wall of the artery that causes lipoprotein A to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form atherosclerotic plaques and ultimately lead to heart disease, strokes and peripheral arterial disease. The answer is there is a particular amino acid in a protein in the wall of the artery - lysine, which is one of the twenty amino acids that binds the lipoprotein A and causes atherosclerotic plaques to develop. I think it is a very important discovery.

Well, now, if you know that there are residues of lysine, lysyl residues, that hold the lipoprotein A to the wall of the artery and cause hardening of the arteries, then any chemist, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is to prevent that by puffing the amino acid lysine in the blood to greater extent than is normally. Of course you get lysine normally in your food. Meat in particular contains a good bit of lysine. And you need lysine to be alive, it is an essential amino acid, you have to get about a gram a day to keep in protein balance, but you can take lysine, pure lysine, a perfectly non toxic substance in food, as 500mg tablets and that puts extra lysine molecules in the blood. They enter into competition with the lysyl residues on the wall of artery and accordingly count to prevent the lipoproteinA from being deposited or even will work to pull it loose and destroy the atherosclerotic plaques.

Q: Do you think the treatment of lysine and vitamin C can reverse the atherosclerotic process?

I think so. Yes. Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes by the proper use of vitamin C and lysine. It can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it. If you are at risk of heart disease, or if there is a history of heart disease in your family; if your father or other members of the family died of a heart attack or stroke or whatever, or if you have a mild heart attack yourself then you had better be taking vitamin C and lysine.

Q: You are recommending vitamin C and lysine for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
How exactly does lysine help to prevent cardiovascular disease?

Many investigators contributed to showing that lipoprotein A is what is deposited in plaques, not just LDL, but lipoprotein A. If you have more than 20mg/dI in your blood it begins depositing plaques and atherosclerosis so the question then is what causes lipoprotein A to stick to the wall of the artery and cause these plaques? Well countless biochemists and other chemists are pretty smart people and they discovered what it is in the wall of the artery that causes lipoprotein A to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form atherosclerotic plaques and ultimately lead to heart disease, strokes and peripheral arterial disease. The answer is there is a particular amino acid in a protein in the wall of the artery - lysine, which is one of the twenty amino acids that binds the lipoprotein A and causes atherosclerotic plaques to develop. I think it is a very important discovery.

Well, now, if you know that there are residues of lysine, lysyl residues, that hold the lipoprotein A to the wall of the artery and cause hardening of the arteries, then any chemist, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is to prevent that by puffing the amino acid lysine in the blood to greater extent than is normally. Of course you get lysine normally in your food. Meat in particular contains a good bit of lysine. And you need lysine to be alive, it is an essential amino acid, you have to get about a gram a day to keep in protein balance, but you can take lysine, pure lysine, a perfectly non toxic substance in food, as 500mg tablets and that puts extra lysine molecules in the blood. They enter into competition with the lysyl residues on the wall of artery and accordingly count to prevent the lipoproteinA from being deposited or even will work to pull it loose and destroy the atherosclerotic plaques.

Q: Do you think the treatment of lysine and vitamin C can reverse the atherosclerotic process?

I think so. Yes. Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes by the proper use of vitamin C and lysine. It can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it. If you are at risk of heart disease, or if there is a history of heart disease in your family; if your father or other members of the family died of a heart attack or stroke or whatever, or if you have a mild heart attack yourself then you had better be taking vitamin C and lysine.

plakhapate
01-14-08, 01:10 AM
As I understand blood pH plays vital role.
If it is slightly below 7 , precipitation will be less.
Is it true that Aspirin tablets are given for reducing blood pH.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
pjl1954@yahoo.com

draqon
01-14-08, 01:57 AM
Do not eat fat foods
Exercise daily, sweating during it
take ginko and genseng supplements for blood flow increase

yahooian
01-15-08, 03:37 AM
Interesting... most animals can produce there own vitamin C as an enzyme. Primates - including humans, have lost the ability to make vitamin C and must obtain it from external sources.


www-DOT-healthvision2020-DOT-com/heartdisease1-DOT-html



Heart Disease


A simple Cure



Why blockages form.

After investigators determined that Lp(a) causes atherosclerosis, the next question for scientists became: "What causes these "fat" molecules to stick to the artery wall?" The Nobel prize winning answer turned out to be amino acid residues -- the so-called Lysine (and Proline) Binding Sites or LBS.

The Lp(a) or "cholesterol" binding sites are really just collagen protein (amino acid) residues that becomes exposed when blood vessels "crack." These exposed residues attract the Lp(a) molecules creating the plaque.

. . . A very important discovery. . .

What if the sticky Lp(a) molecules could be reduced, or were attracted some place other than the damaged arterial wall?

"Knowing that lysyl residues are what causes lipoprotein-(a) to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form plaques, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is prevent that by putting the amino acid lysine in the blood to a greater extent than it is normally." [Linus Pauling, JON, Aug. '94]

Pauling/Rath's invention is to increase the lysine concentration in the blood serum causing Lp(a) to bind with lysine molecules in the blood rendering the Lp(a) inactive.

Today, there are more than 1100 MEDLINE (US National Medical Database) references to Lp(a). These reports confirm the Nobel prize winning research paper of Brown-Goldstein and provide a solid foundation for the Pauling Unified Theory. The fundamental and now generally recognized scientific fact is that Lp(a) cholesterol molecules bind to blood vessel walls via the Lysine and Proline Binding Sites forming atherosclerotic plaques and occlusive cardiovascular disease.

A corollary is that ordinary LDL (so-called "bad") cholesterol is not the primary cause of plaque build-up, any more than calcium.

Massive research now supports the insight of Pauling/Rath, who well ahead of his time in 1994 pointed out, "If you have more than 20mg/dl of Lp(a) in your blood it begins depositing plaques causing atherosclerosis."

The Pauling/Rath U. S. Patent # 5,278,189 is for the prevention and treatment of occlusive cardiovascular disease with vitamin C and substances that inhibit the binding of lipoprotein-(a). The patent provides a method for the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular disease, such as atherosclerosis, by administering therapeutically effective dosages of a formula composed of vitamin C, lipoprotein-(a) binding inhibitors (e.g., lysine and proline or their analogs) and antioxidants.

Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath discovered that substances that inhibit the binding of lipoprotein-(a) also cause lipoprotein-(a) to be released from the arterial wall. According to the patent, a binding inhibitor (e.g., lysine or lysine analog) used alone or in conjunction with vitamin C, finds Lp(a) in the blood and binds with it before the molecule can reach the walls of arteries. At high enough concentrations, the lysine in the blood attracts Lp(a) in the existing plaques and will dissolve the plaque.

The inescapable conclusion is that the essential, very low cost and completely nontoxic amino acid lysine, when taken with vitamin C in amounts far larger than one normally consumes in the diet, may reduce or may even eliminate Lp(a) based atherosclerosis in human beings.

The lysine treatment mechanism doesn't depend on the reason the Lp(a) based plaque forms. It really doesn't matter whether the arterial lesions were caused by mechanical stress, a vitamin deficiency, oxidized cholesterol, elevated homo-cysteine, fat in the diet, or even little green men.

RonaldJaison
01-21-08, 07:46 AM
That was very useful.

plakhapate
02-01-08, 01:21 AM
EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass; my father is the living proof (5 years and going strong after being told that he needed a triple heart bypass--yesterday!). Chelation removes heavy metals from the arteries; heavy metals attract free radicals, which attach to and oxidise the fatty plaque, causing disease; therefore removal of heavy metals minimise the effect of free radicals. This is a very simplified explanation considering that whole books are written trying to explain the therapeutic effect of chelation treatment, a treatment which is not accepted by the FDA but that has saved thousands of people from death and/or heart surgery.

Does anybody know why FDA has not approved EDTA chelation treatment?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

tablariddim
02-02-08, 11:28 AM
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Does anybody know why FDA has not approved EDTA chelation treatment?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Consider this; the drug companies have the medical universities, doctors and training hospitals, and the FDA in their pockets. It does not pay them to promote cheap generic treatments, therefore all avenues to official research for alternative treatments are blocked by beureaucracy and prohibitive costs; who is going to pay for a double blind study involving hundreds or thousands of people over a number of years, if all they have to gain is worth less than the costs of the study? As you rightly guessed, nobody is.

However, many practitioners have conducted their own private studies based on their patient's histories and published accounts/books do exist; it's just a matter of searching for them. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the drug companies do not provide adequate treatments for many diseases, but sometimes they intentionally miss the point in order to make bucks, and older established cheaper treatments are left to rot and are virtually forgotten. Fortunately, a few contrarian practitioners have bothered to check out the older treatments and have found them to be, in many cases, superior to the modern and more expensive or even more dangerous alternatives.

So there you go, at the end of the day it depends on how contrarian you are in your attitudes and on how much faith you hold to the official line. Personally I prefer to do my own research and use my own logic before I decide, rightly or wrongly, what treatment is right for me.

UltiTruth
02-02-08, 12:10 PM
Cholesterol Myths:
http://www.thincs.org/links.htm
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_2.html

I think a lot of research now debunks the cholesterol theories.

oreodont
02-02-08, 12:16 PM
Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

and the reverse. all those non-climatologist GW 'scientists' who have a hard time reading a thermometer.... and especially to dismiss non-scientists like Al 'the Preacher' Gore.

plakhapate
02-18-08, 12:18 AM
Does it help to drink lemon juice early in the morning ?
P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

kmguru
02-18-08, 01:12 AM
Does it help to drink lemon juice early in the morning ?

If you want to reduce the pH level perhaps? But is not the blood pH should be 7.3? If you make it acidic, then the system goes out of whack and the body will create fat cells to buffer acid....

Perhaps drink a diluted KOH or Mg(OH)2 solution in the morning?

Spud Emperor
02-18-08, 05:14 AM
Fish oil, specifically omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids have a beneficial effect against various disorders including coronary heart disease, high blood pressure and rheumatoid arthritis.

The mackerals and tunas are high in these oils, although most fish have at least some of these oils present.

Red wine too has a beneficial effect. In moderation so they say. 2-3 glasses, 4 times a week.
* spud takes big slurp to keep doctor at bay*

cosmictraveler
02-18-08, 06:05 AM
My mother lived to be over 95 years old and she never had a heart problem and she never excercised but ate whatever she wanted in moderation.

kmguru
02-18-08, 08:37 AM
What was her diet?

cosmictraveler
02-18-08, 10:44 AM
What was her diet?

She ate everything except vegetables.

kmguru
02-18-08, 10:54 AM
She ate everything except vegetables.

And here we are told to eat Vegetables...otherwise we will die early....

That must be good genes...

plakhapate
03-02-08, 01:56 AM
Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries.
If these bacteria are multiplied faster then this problem arises.
These bacteria may be from the curd.
Is this true?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Fraggle Rocker
03-02-08, 07:29 AM
Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries. If these bacteria are multiplied faster then this problem arises. These bacteria may be from the curd. Is this true?According to the website Microbiology and Bacteriology (http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Microtextbook/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=174&page=1), there is a correlation between infection by Chlamydia pneumoniae and atherosclerosis. This is a difficult line of research to pursue since this species of Chlamydia is one of the most common bacteria in our environment and around 70% of humans are unknowingly infected with it.

The problem facing researchers is to avoid committing an ancient fallacy that is even more common than this microorganism itself :): Post hoc ergo propter hoc, "Correlation implies causation."

I'm not much of a biologist but it appears that so far evidence is largely circumstantial. The primary cause of atherosclerosis is white blood cells attacking deposits of low-density lipoproteins (LDL or "bad cholesterol") in the arteries, deposits which virtually all humans have, starting in adolescence. This can be seen as sort of a "false alarm," an erroneous triggering of the body's autoimmune response, which then goes awry. The complicated chemistry and physics (I can read it with a glimmer of understanding but it gives me a headache) results in the blockages becoming larger rather than smaller. One day they block blood flow to a vital organ (stroke or heart attack), enlarge an artery which then encroaches on other tissue (aneurism), or block blood flow to a non-vital but nonetheless important site (atheroma).

However, evidence indicates that this particular mechanism is the cause of arterial blockage in only half of cases. (I have no idea how strong or controversial this evidence may be.) Scientists have had some success inducing these symptoms in laboratory animals by injecting them with C. pneumoniae. But, judging by what I have read, they're still a long way from providing good solid support for this theory. Still, this line of research is about ten years old so there may be recent developments that are not accessible to laymen.

You'll have to investigate it for yourself and form your own opinion, but if you're not highly educated in this biological specialty it will be exceedingly difficult. You may just have to wait for the experts to decide, or else pursue your own postgraduate degree in this field so you can participate in the research.

In any case, if by "curd" you're referring specifically to cheese, I see no discussion of that link. The various species of Chlamydia are widespread in the environment and some others are common causes of annoying but not life-threatening ailments in humans (particularly women), as well as deadly infections in birds.

Billy T
03-02-08, 08:20 AM
EDTA chelation treatment, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking, can be a viable alternative to open heart surgery and heart bypass;...Absolutely - No question about it! BUT that is more expensive than:

Keeping a penny dated with your birth year in your pocket, along with regular exercise, maintaining correct body weight, eating healthily, stopping smoking and excess drinking. :D


Somewhere I read that there are certain bacteria which are resposible for the blockage of arteries. ...Is that true?Probably true, but for several different types of bacteria (Possibly none of the anaerobic ones?) For at least 10 years, the role of inflamation of arterial walls has been considered the reason why cholestrol deposits on them - sort of the body's effort to keep oxygen away from the bacteria that have caused the inflamation, I think.

plakhapate
03-02-08, 09:07 AM
Is it that bacteria consumes oxygen hence adequate oxygen is not available to the body and hence LDL , VLDL and Tryglyceride formation takes place ?

This kind of thinking seems to be probable because of my personal experience.
I was doing the necessary exercise and eating nutritous food.Yet I had to undergo bypass surgery.

Now I want to ensure that other arteries will not be totally blocked.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Billy T
03-02-08, 11:52 AM
Is it that bacteria consumes oxygen hence adequate oxygen is not available to the body...No. That was not my speculation. I do not think it is known why LDL etc deposits on the artery wall, but it is now quite well accepted that it does so in areas that are inflamed and that inflamation, if not due to mechanical causes, is usually due to infections (bacteria). I also have a strong general belief that the body has many modes of adptation to stresses - trys to maintain homestatus. If there were bacterial surface infection on the interior wall of an artery, I think the bacteria would get a significant part of its needed oxygen from the blood of the artery. (Some oxygen from the blood circulating in the artery wall itself, perhaps also). Thus, one way for the body to adapt -fight the infection - would be to coat the area with some wax-like substance to imped the transport of oxygen to the bacteria. - That is all speculation on my part, but seems to me to be a plausible reason why colesteroil deposits on the arterial wall.

I also tend to believe that the fever that comes with most systemic infections is an adaptation of the body - the biochemisty of the bacteria will speed up and this will make it need more energy (it sugar foods) and Oxygen.
I have not taken asprin for more than 40 years to depress a small fever. - Finally medical science is now coming around to my POV and recomending not to take asprin for mild fevers.

One of my original and favorate statements is: "My body is smarter than all the doctors put together." *I rarely visit a doctor, except for annual checkup, mainly of PSA level. In the 14+ years I have been in Brazil, only once did I visit a doctor and then take an anti-biotic. That was after giving my body a week to get well on its own; However one thing to also remember, is that bacteria etc. have been evolving their "attack skills" for eons so your body's highly evolved "defense systems" do not always win the battle with them. Without much concern, I will put my well exercised immune system up against "bird flu" or most other agents many fear.
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*My father was a "country doctor" - A GP. One of his favorate statements was: "I am in partnership with 'mother nature.' - She cures 'em, and I send out the bills."

MetaKron
03-02-08, 12:04 PM
Vitamin C seems to be good for inflammation and low-level bacterial infections. Selenium is good too.

I've heard good things about barley tea. Allegedly barley tea completely cleaned out arterial deposits in one test in the mid 1980s. Unfortunately the magazine article didn't say where the test was conducted or by whom, but barley tea is a low risk and low impact regimen. Flaxseed oil is supposed to be good also, and garlic.

plakhapate
03-12-08, 01:57 AM
For preventing artery blockages one must know whether artery blockages are there or not.

Other than Angiography is there any other method by which artery blockages can be detected?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

tablariddim
03-12-08, 04:37 AM
For preventing artery blockages one must know whether artery blockages are there or not.

Other than Angiography is there any other method by which artery blockages can be detected?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

CT scans; MRI: Ultrasound (requires specialist operator)

Billy T
03-12-08, 06:52 AM
CT scans; MRI: Ultrasound (requires specialist operator)Not sure, but almost so: On the ultrasound I think it is Doppler -I.e. the narrow section has higher speed blood flowing thru it.

plakhapate
04-05-08, 12:53 AM
I came to know that Triglyceride is a sticky substance.
It sticks inside the artery.
When calcium present in the blood deposits inside the artery , the blockage occurs.
It is claimed that 75% of the blockages are made up of Calcium.
What are the Decalcification methods to clear the blockages?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

krokah
04-05-08, 03:22 AM
One of the best ways to prevent as well as reduce artery blockage is through the use of omega vitamines. A daily dose of flax seed oil or flax seed is a good way to start. Flax golden cereal is a great way to start the day. Nutritional studies (this is just from memory, sorry I can't quote one) have shown that omega vitamines are the best way for prevention as well as reduction of artery blockage, unless it is embolic or due to injury of the artery wall.

krokah
04-05-08, 07:20 AM
As I understand blood pH plays vital role.
If it is slightly below 7 , precipitation will be less.
Is it true that Aspirin tablets are given for reducing blood pH.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
pjl1954@yahoo.com

Life would be very unpleasant with a blood pH less than 7. You would end up in the hospital either on a ventilator or a bipap for respiratory support. The normal pH ranges from 7.35 to 7.45. It is dangerous to try and drink anything that would change this internal balance. Talk to someone before you try this, I would not like to see you in the emergency department. As far as using Aspirin tablets it is used to "thin" the blood during and after a heart attack. Makes it a bit hard to clot as well.

Billy T
04-05-08, 10:07 AM
...As far as using Aspirin tablets it is used to "thin" the blood ...While sounding true, that says nothing about the mechanism. Doctors, in general are taught in med school to learn correct "procedures" not to think about mechanisms - why things happen. Thus, they often make statements that seem to have "mechanistic content" but do not. I.e. in this case, does the average space between the blood cells increase when aspirin is in the blood? I.e. the fluid to cell mass ratio is increased? - That would be my idea of "thinning the blood", but I happen to know that is not the main way aspirin helps. Before telling how it does, I will give my favorite example of a doctor's sort of "zero mechanistic content," but useful statement to a patient. (Part of the "procedure" he probably learned in med school, very likely in the self-protection from lawsuit class.):


"Don't drive or operate machinery after taking these pills for your pain as they contain a narcoleptic agent which causes drowsiness." At least 95% of all doctors have no idea as to the mechanism of morphine's etc. action. There is just too much to learn in med school. (I do think medical students have time for at least one class in "fancy words impress" psychology, - make larger fees acceptible.)

This "follow the proceedure" POV was vividly illustrated to me while working on a monkey with a neurosurgeon I greatly admire for his skill. We had exposed the monkey's spinal cord's sheath (called the "Dura" as it is tough) and dropped a steel ball directly on it thru a guide tube from a standard height. We then waiting our standard half hour to simulate the ride from car crash to hospital operating table before starting to perfuse the injured region. Three needles were inserted thru the Dura sheath during that wait. One was above and one was below the injury site for the entrance and exit of the "cocktail of drugs" solution under test. This solution came from a beaker on an elevated platform by "gravity flow."

The third needle was inserted in the neck, as near the brain as possible. That required some more exposure of the Dura. This needle connected to a pressure gauge. If too much pressure is applied to the cerebral spinal fluid in the brain the brain’s blood vessels will compress and the monkey’s will die in a few minutes. (Not sure I remember, but think 40 or 50 cm of water was a "safe limit.") I tried during several different operations to explain that so long as we made sure highest liquid in the beaker supplying the perfusion fluid was less than 40 cm above the table the monkey was resting on that there was no need for the third needle's connection to the pressure gauge or the associated second exposure of the Dura. The doctor completely understood my argument, but "that was not the procedure."*

Now to the mechanism of "blood thinning" (by memory): Typically a red blood cell lives about a month but like the lenses in your eye, becomes stiffer / less deformable with age. This tends to make them slow, perhaps even get stuck for a while in the fine capillaries. Aspirin helps keep the blood cells more flexible as they age. Not sure now, but think the aspirin molecule becomes attached to some specific place(s) on the cell to do this. In the fine capillaries, as I recall, the cell tends to "tank tread" as well as roll along one wall side. Perhaps the "tank treading" is how the oxygen is "unbound" but I am just speculation on this. - Perhaps no one knows? Perhaps the higher local CO2 has changed the pH to facilitate the "unbinding" - Dose anyone know how the O2 is released?
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*If he did as I was suggesting, perhaps the paper to follow would be rejected. My name is on a few of those papers, so I kept quite after a few tries, especially after one monekey tried to bite me later. That can be very dangerous if they have a "Simian B" virus - only a "cold" for them, but often fatal to humans. Fortunate, he only slightly scratched me and I immediately sucked and spit out blood from etc from the scratch, even making it bleed more to "wash" wound area.

kmguru
04-05-08, 02:14 PM
Life would be very unpleasant with a blood pH less than 7. You would end up in the hospital either on a ventilator or a bipap for respiratory support. The normal pH ranges from 7.35 to 7.45.

In the competition to selling water at $8.00 per gallon, some companies are selling slightly alkaline water perhaps a pH of 7.4. Yes it is dangerous to make blood fluid acidic as body will be hard at work to balance the pH. Since pH curve is non-linear, it will take progressively more work as the pH goes down....

The best solution is REM sleep and let the body repair on its own. There was aCBS 60 minutes piece on sleep that shows you how the body does not work well with lack of sleep.

Inflammation is a major cause of many problems including rapid aging. Make sure to keep it down through food nutrition....Asian Indian professionals (in India or USA) eat well and yet have a lot of heart problems. My theory is, that is due to stress period.

plakhapate
04-06-08, 01:56 AM
Recent study shows that heart disease is due to Nano-bacteria.

If this true than we need bacteriacide to kill those bacteria.

This indicates that this disease is curable.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Billy T
04-07-08, 08:41 PM
Recent study shows that heart disease is due to Nano-bacteria....I have not seen or heard of this -do you have a link or reference?

kmguru
04-08-08, 12:06 AM
I have not seen or heard of this -do you have a link or reference?

In 2004 a Mayo Clinic team led by infectious disease expert, Franklin Cockerill, MD, PhD, John Lieske, MD, and Virginia M. Miller, PhD. at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota reports to have isolated nanobacteria in diseased human arteries and kidney stones. Their results were accepted and published in 2004 and 2006 respectively.[7][8] These findings were confirmed in 2005 by László Puskás, PhD at the DNA Lab, University of Szeged, Hungary. Dr. Puskás identified these particles in cultures obtained from human atherosclerotic aortic walls and blood samples of atherosclerotic patients but the group was unable to detect DNA in these samples.[9] For historical interest it has to be noted that the content of the referred paper was originally submitted to Nature as "Letter to Editor" for fast publication several years earlier. It was rejected after almost four months of peer-review process on the basis of the lack of detection of any kind of genetic material.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacterium

Billy T
04-08-08, 12:00 PM
In 2004 a Mayo Clinic team led by infectious disease expert, Franklin Cockerill, MD, PhD, John Lieske, MD, and Virginia M. Miller, PhD. at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota reports to have isolated nanobacteria in diseased human arteries and kidney stones. Their results were accepted and published in 2004 and 2006 respectively.[7][8] These findings were confirmed in 2005 by László Puskás, PhD at the DNA Lab, University of Szeged, Hungary. Dr. Puskás identified these particles in cultures obtained from human atherosclerotic aortic walls and blood samples of atherosclerotic patients but the group was unable to detect DNA in these samples.[9] ...Thanks. I read wiki article from which your above quote is taken. Also there is:

"... "Nanobac Oy" later absorbed in 2003 by a publicly traded Nanobacteria research company in Tampa, Florida founded by Nanobiotic developer Gary Mezo, 'Nanobac Pharmaceuticals, Inc.', to market medical diagnostic kits for identifying nanobacteria to medical researchers, and are developing prescription medical treatments for calcification-associated diseases. This has raised doubts concerning their impartiality ..."

Likewise, the nano-scale structure NASA thinks may be fossil remains of nanobacteria found in meteroite, ALH 84001, which is believed to be from Mars, I think, are also suspect as NASA needs to justify the millions spent on serch for exta-Earth life forms. Only the Mayo Clinic group is without stong bias towards the existence of any life related process being associated with "nanobacteria" and theyhave never observed any thing clearly indicating they are any aspect of life. All they claim is nano paricle are found is humans et. al. where calcium deposits. Thus I prefer to call them by the name many others do: "Calcifying Nano Particles, CNPs, not nanoBACTERIA, as they have none of the properties of BACTERIA not their size, lack both DNA and RNA, will not replicate - are only "found" basically as small calcium structures, typically as part of larger calcium deposts - Sort of like small quatrz crystals are often found as "inclusions" within larger ones.

Certainly the name "nanoBACTERIA" IS A GROSS DISTORTION of the know facts common to ALL BACTERIA, including the ability to produce at least one specific disease. (Just being found in calcium deposit on arterial walls or in kidney stones, is not evidence that they even cause these aflictions. Until there is some direct evidence that they can at least repilcate, I will call then non-living CNPs.

In contrast consider the Prions. They also have no DNA, very likely no RNA yet they come in various forms that cause specific disease (mad cow disease, and at leas 10 others.) I do not think it is fully know how they replicat, but they do - small inculation will fill the cow´s brain with them in a few months. etc. It is sort a border line case to call either virus or prion a life form, and can go either way with different definition of life; but there is no way that the CNPs should be considered life (unless as is the case with main proponets of that POV you are selling a product related to detecting these dangerous nanobacterial life forms.) ;) Again:

Certainly the name "nanoBACTERIA" IS A GROSS DISTORTION.

Closely related are:
"Nanobes are tiny filamental structures first found in some rocks and sediments. Some hypothesize that they are the smallest form of life, 1/10th the size of the smallest known bacteria. Nanobes were discovered in 1996 (published in American Mineralogist, vol 83., 1998) by Philipa Uwins, University of Queensland, Australia.[1] They were found growing from rock samples (both full-diameter and sidewall cores) of Jurassic and Triassic sandstones, originally retrieved from an unspecified number of oil exploration wells off Australia's west coast. Depths of retrieval were between 3400 and 5100m below sea bed. ..."

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobe

These are about the same size, as I recal, as the long thin "whiskers" that grow on metal tin. I do not want to be "left behind" in the "new life-form movement" so, let me here-by be the first to suggest these "tin whiskers" are a new form of "metalic life." :rolleyes: ;)

plakhapate
05-11-08, 01:17 AM
According to Swami Ramdevbaba(India) mainly one has to perform PRANAYAM (Breathing Exercise ) daily for one hour minimum.

This helps in clearing the artery blockages.

Also it reduces Trighycerides, LDL formation, High B.P.

Pls share your experiences about this fact.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

kmguru
05-11-08, 08:48 AM
Fact?

cosmictraveler
05-11-08, 08:53 AM
My mother lived for over 95 years and never had anything wrong with her heart, she ate what she wanted but never overate and did not exercises at all. Her parents lived into their 100's. I'll be lucky to make it anywhere near that. What I believe helps is a good genetic background. If old age runs in your family then you will probably live long also as long as you balance everything in your life as best you can. Eat whatever you want just don't eat allot. ;)

kmguru
05-11-08, 09:23 AM
The problem is if old age does not run in your family or that you changed the eating habits towards junk food from your parents....then what do you do? I think, in case of short lived lineage, you can improve that using healthy eating habits and reduce stress level.

One items I read is that get REM sleep everyday. That repairs the body every night. And eat a lot of fruits and vegetables.

Lately I am experiementing with protein shakes that the body builders use and found to be very energizing...someday, I can go to my local clinic, have them take my stem cells and freeze it for later use.....like when I am ready to go blind or something....

cosmictraveler
05-11-08, 09:31 AM
someday, I can go to my local clinic, have them take my stem cells and freeze it for later use.....like when I am ready to go blind or something....

They now find they can get stem cells from your body fat. So you can always have stem cells ready to use whenever you need them, no need to freeze them any longer.

more here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissue

plakhapate
05-19-08, 12:58 AM
Is it that anaerobic growth of bacteria cause the blockage in the artery?

If yes then some anti-biotic may help.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

draqon
05-19-08, 12:59 AM
Is it that anaerobic growth of bacteria cause the blockage in the artery?

If yes then some anti-biotic may help.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

what a proposterous idea! :p I am sure there are larger objects to block the arteries, than bacteria...

Oh my! Oh my!...I was wrong it seems: http://interactive.snm.org/index.cfm?PageID=4613&RPID=10

bacteria do seem to cause artery blockages

plakhapate
05-25-08, 12:07 AM
If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

draqon
05-25-08, 12:12 AM
If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

...co-lateral arteries?!! :eek: geee...so that they would get clogged too? I suppose only nanomachines can do that...you cant just introduce arteries into a body...

Read-Only
05-25-08, 12:21 AM
If clearing the blockage of the arteries are difficult, is it possible to develop co-lateral arteries?

What needs to be done to develop co-lateral arteries?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

That's exactly right. And it's done by intensive exercise - ask anyone who has PAD (peripheral artery disease) what their doctor advised them to do.

Read-Only
05-25-08, 12:23 AM
...co-lateral arteries?!! :eek: geee...so that they would get clogged too? I suppose only nanomachines can do that...you cant just introduce arteries into a body...

Partially wrong - it can be done in the arms and legs. See my response to his question.

MetaKron
05-25-08, 01:09 AM
I can't address his Lysine treatment but Pauling was one of my chemist heroes. It was a big letdown for me when his claims about vitamin C turned out to be false.

As Fraggle said, he was a chemist and NOT a biologist - and certainly not a biological chemist. He would have done well to have stayed within his field.

Footnote: this is also a good example of why it's not wise to accept the word of scientists that aren't climatologists when they dismiss world-wide climate change.

Did you look carefully at how Linus Pauling's claims were allegedly disproven and read his counterclaims?

plakhapate
05-29-08, 01:15 AM
That's exactly right. And it's done by intensive exercise - ask anyone who has PAD (peripheral artery disease) what their doctor advised them to do.

It is interesting to note that after Bypass Surgery I have to exercise intensively

to get collateral arteries developed.

What a fantastic natural arrangement of body !!!

No doctor has told me to exercise intensively .

However I have seen that my father was walking extensively even after second heart attack.

He survived six years after second heart attack.

The third and last heart attack was when he was at home (while resting).

Based on this knowledge I started doing more exercise and yogas after my
Bypass Surgery.(Now 6 months are over)

Everybody was telling me to do very limited exercise.

But I got good results after doing the exercise.

In fact two days ago I felt like ants moving in my heart(good sensation).

Is it that collateral arteries are forming in my heart?

I also feel very energatic and enthusiastic.

I checked blood sugar and B.P also (found o.k.)

How to know whether new collateral arteries are formed?

Pls share if anybody has similar experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

kmguru
05-29-08, 08:11 AM
My blood pressure range is 150/90. So, I figure, the problem is plaques. For the last two months, I have been taking Lysine, Ginko, Metformin, Milk Thistle, Niacin etc. and cut out most sugar, oil from food, more vegetables and fruits, no soft drinks etc. Now the BP is 135/82. I have still a way to go. My dad died from heart attack, so I am trying to be careful. I do my normal exercises and light yoga.

krokah
05-29-08, 11:21 AM
Kmguru way to go! Dropping your blood pressure like that is a great start. Why are you taking Metformin? It raises lactic acid levels in the body. Are you Diabetic as well? I am sure you have spoken to a nutritional professional as part of your lifestyle. Again, I want to inform everyone of the benefits of omega vitamins found in flax brand. You can cosume it as an oil, powder, or cereal. It reduces artery build up as well as prevents it. Also, speak with your MD regarding a low dose of aspirin every day. Good luck.

kmguru
05-29-08, 05:59 PM
I have done extensive research on Metformin. For the first 25 years of my life, I have lived on sugar products like a whole pound cake, twinkies etc with a glass of milk or half a cheese cake as my meal. My father had a similar diet and ended up as diabetic. So, it is a preventive measure and I am doing great. Several years ago, I had hypoglycemia and now it is gone. I no more drink Colas except once a month with two slices of pizza.

I think, abnormal glucose metabolism cause a lot of problems including AGE (Advanced Glycation Endproducts) Until ALT-711 or similar products are in the market, I will follow this path.

Yes, I do take Omega-3 pills when not eating Salmon. I like my DHA which helps my learning process when doing reseach in to new technologies.

Thank you.

lepustimidus
05-29-08, 06:09 PM
Statins can cause plaque regression. A diet high in antioxidants helps, too.

krokah
05-29-08, 11:44 PM
Those of you who are on statins should be getting blood work done every 6 months or so. Statins are liver toxic to certain individuals or at certain doses. Other than that they are a great way to reduce your serum lipids.

kmguru
05-30-08, 08:39 AM
I take Red Yeast Rice stacked....my friend took Lipitor and had all types of problems so the doctor told him to take Beta-Sitosterol (which I take too).

ElectricFetus
05-30-08, 09:09 AM
Die very young, say before 30.

He got a point, preventative measures can be taken but if you live long enough no matter what your chances of heart disease will be 100%. Maximum possible life span without replacing parts is 125 years.

lepustimidus
05-30-08, 09:12 AM
Yeah, they have found fatty streaks (the beginning signs of atherosclerosis) on the blood vessels of fetuses and even healthy young men. You can actually have an artery partially occluded by a plaque and never notice. The problem starts when the plaque ruptures, and you get thrombus formation (ie. a blood clot).

plakhapate
06-03-08, 12:48 AM
Recently I read that watermelon seeds when dried,powdered and consumed

clear the artery blockage.

Is it true?

Has anybody experienced the same?

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

Fraggle Rocker
06-05-08, 07:22 PM
He got a point, preventative measures can be taken but if you live long enough no matter what your chances of heart disease will be 100%. Maximum possible life span without replacing parts is 125 years.But they've already got replacement hearts. By the time you kids reach 125 they'll have really good ones!

ElectricFetus
06-05-08, 07:31 PM
But they've already got replacement hearts. By the time you kids reach 125 they'll have really good ones!

Exactly!, but then why take preventative measures?

kmguru
06-05-08, 07:59 PM
Recently I read that watermelon seeds when dried,powdered and consumed clear the artery blockage.


An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

plakhapate
06-07-08, 12:17 AM
An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

Pls let me know how much zinc and iron is needed for a normal person ?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

draqon
06-07-08, 12:27 AM
Pls let me know how much zinc and iron is needed for a normal person ?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

Men: 15 mg
Women: 12 mg

kmguru
06-07-08, 12:32 AM
The numbers I posted should be in milligrams and not grams. Adult Zinc needs are 12 mg per day and 18 mg for iron. If you are kicking your legs at night, you may need to increase the intake of your iron. As always, check with your doctor.

plakhapate
06-07-08, 01:40 AM
An ounce of dried watermelon seed kernels contains about 3 grams of zinc (or 25 percent of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for a woman under 50), and 2 grams of iron (or 14 percent of the RDA).

So, could be.....

One ounce is how many grams?

plakhapate
06-19-08, 12:35 AM
German scientists have found out that Silk Worm Enzymes (Serrapeptase) clear the artery blockages.

They claim that this is also suitable for various other diseases.

Has anybody tried above medicine for clearing Artery Blockages.

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

plakhapate
07-18-08, 01:48 AM
Has anybody used EDTA chelation method for clearing the artery blockages?
If yes share the experience.
P.J.LAKHAPATE

Fraggle Rocker
07-18-08, 05:25 PM
One ounce is how many grams?1 oz = 28.1 gm
1 lb = 454 gm

plakhapate
08-01-08, 02:54 AM
NASA has developed Laser rays treatment for burning the blockages in the arteries using remote control.

Has anybody underwent this treatment for removing artery blockages?

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE

plakhapate
08-12-08, 02:59 AM
There is one suggestion from somebody.

Try 21 days fasting with lemon juice and honey.

This might clear the artery blockages.

Has anybody tried this in the past.

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

kmguru
08-12-08, 08:37 AM
Try 21 days fasting with lemon juice and honey.


In America? You must be joking....People can not even fast one day!

plakhapate
08-20-08, 04:33 AM
As per Ramdevbaba , Cow's urine therapy is good for Heart Disease.

Has anybody tried Cow's Urine?

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

Sputnik
08-20-08, 06:49 AM
21 days fasting with lemon juice and honey.

This might clear the artery blockages.

Has anybody tried this in the past.



No , and I do not think this will work ..........



Cow's urine therapy is good for Heart Disease.

Has anybody tried Cow's Urine?

Not personally ....... and I honestly don´t believe, that it will be any better than any other medicine recommended in the medieval ages for being good for almost all sickness ......

" I have now succesfully convinced my children to have their cereal with early morning warm fresh cow urine "
" it is really good at curing AIDS " .......... :eek:
" use it as after shave and perfume .... sprinkle liberally ....."
" use it in mixed drinks when entertaining business clients " ......
Post number 2 in this link :

http://www.r2iclubforums.com/forums/f53/cow-urine-really-medicinal-1930/

:rolleyes:

quantum_wave
08-20-08, 07:24 AM
There is one suggestion from somebody.

Try 21 days fasting with lemon juice and honey.

This might clear the artery blockages.

Has anybody tried this in the past.

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.comI think that fasting is as good a way as any to rid the body toxic debris and to renew vigor. I did a two day fast a few weeks ago and was pleased with the results. A real fast, one that lasts two or three weeks requires medical supervision and a conducive environment. I'm not worried enough yet about clogged arteries but I will try fasting before surgery.

There is an old book by H.M. Shelton called, "Fasting Can Save Your Life". It is filled with case studies and accounts of fasting results. It covers weight loss and improved health as well as curing high blood pressure, heart problems and even arthritis.

I'm sure there are good reads that are more recent but I just happened across this book and read it when I was unhappy about taking high blood pressure medicine. I got off the meds by losing 10% of my weight and changing my diet. Fasting a day or two at a time during weight loss was a great help. My BP has dropped noticeably as a result to within a range considered border line but much improved for me. I am staying with the fruits and veggies and low saturated fats diet and easily maintaining the weight loss. I'll start the next round of weight loss with a good fast and try to move to the mid point from the high end of the recommended range on the body mass index.

There is a basic logic in trying to let the body heal itself without meds if there is no immediate life threatening situation where medical science has been proved successful.

Sputnik
08-20-08, 07:39 AM
Fasting can be good ...... as far as I remember :
2 first days : burning off glucose in the muscles and liver ........ and loosing the content of your bowles ... poo...:)
Day 3 : starting to burn fat and starting producing ketone ( fuel for your brain , when no more sugar is available )
After a week .... increase in ketone .... slight acidosis in your body ....... starting to very slowly destroying your muscles to get proteines .... burning fat fast ......
Should be monitored by a doc .........
When no more fat ... rapid depletion of muscle tissue ..........

Enmos
08-20-08, 08:00 AM
I'm just wondering how much spam mail plakhapate gets on an average day..

sudipsarkar2002
08-20-08, 01:51 PM
Hi,
I do the following to keep my HDL, LDL and Triglyceride levels in check.

1) Eat less fatty/oily foods
2) Exercise everyday
3) Do Pranayam regularly
4) Have Isabgol every night

Thanks

quantum_wave
08-20-08, 02:13 PM
I'm just wondering how much spam mail plakhapate gets on an average day..Lol, I have a yahoo ID that gets pure spam all day long. I took one of those surveys promising a free meal to Red Lobster and I never was able to complete the questions. I suspect they had some kind of endless loop going, but every question must have triggered spam form somewhere.


Hi,
I do the following to keep my HDL, LDL and Triglyceride levels in check.

1) Eat less fatty/oily foods
2) Exercise everyday
3) Do Pranayam regularly
4) Have Isabgol every night

ThanksI could google it but link me to Pranayam in the form you do it and what is Isabgol?

plakhapate
08-21-08, 01:19 AM
Hi,
I do the following to keep my HDL, LDL and Triglyceride levels in check.

1) Eat less fatty/oily foods
2) Exercise everyday
3) Do Pranayam regularly
4) Have Isabgol every night

Thanks

For your information I did the same for 14 years .
I maintained the records also.
My health is excellent.
But for one Nigeria Job they wanted Stress Test Report.
My Stress Test Report is positive.
Angiography confirmed 6 artery blockages.
One is having 90% blockage in LAD
Hence Bypass Surgery is done.
Now I want to clear my artery blockages.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

plakhapate
08-21-08, 01:29 AM
Are STATIN drugs useful for clearing the artery blockages?

What are the side effects of STATAIN drugs?

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@gmail.com

kmguru
08-21-08, 08:17 AM
Alpha Lipoic Acid?

Billy T
08-22-08, 02:05 PM
I had my first cholesterol test in 1958 and now have 50 years of data. Back then only the total and Triglyceride were measured - no one knew much about HDL and LDL, but I followed the literature as I still do. (I also have EKG traces from that era to the present - I always make the doctors either run a copy for me or Xerox.)

There was a well done study, about 25 years ago, that showed the cholesterol level was not nearly as important as the total Cholesterol/ HDL ratio, so I started to track mine. (I have copy of the study filed away, but hope someone will give a link to more recent update.)

The CAUSAL importance of cholesterol has steadily decreased with the passage of the years. It is now considered to be more a secondary to infections* in that the plack, rich in it, is sort of the body's natural attempt to provide a protective cover to an area of the vessel wall with chronic mild infection.

There have been many epidemiological studies - for example Orientals have less trouble with heart disease, but when they move to San Francisco, eat and live like Americans, they die like Americans. Some Mediterranean peoples, especially some on the Greek islands, get more than 1/3 of the caloric intake from fats; yet have some of the lowest rates of heart problems. When I read that study about 5 years ago, I changed to my current breakfast, which was already a one minute micro-waved banana with about equal volume or raw oats mashed into it to include about an equal volume of Canola oil also mixed in. - It is nutritional essentially the same as olive oil (that the Island dwelling Greeks eat) but much cheaper.** Ever since my C. /HDL ratio has been pleasingly low. In fact the blood taken on 5May08 had the best ratio ever - slightly less than 3.00 with C = 210 and HDL equal 71, in common units of measure.

I swim laps at least three times each week and take brisk walks for half an hour before going to bed with shot of vodica, first used first as a mouth wash, but followed with full glass of water as a chaser. (I live in a high-rise, one of 6 inside a private park - a secure area - I would not go on the Sao Paulo streets that late.)

I like Brazil as there are many good, cheap fruits and vegetable year round. I eat a lot of fish, smaller ones usually, as I fear the Hg accumulation that builds up in the bodies of the bigger ones like sharks. Red meat less than twice a month. I had my first exercise stress test recently. - I had only one problem - I wanted the doctor controlling the machine and busily making notes, to make the tread mill go faster. - But he would not - the machine was at its safety limit - people tend to fall off he said if it goes faster. Keep your worries low and your sex activity high. (I get annual PSA tests and they are low. I think it reasonable that failure to void the prostrate on a regular basis could cause it to enlarge, but that is just a simple physics POV. - never read that.) Masturbate if you need to, but I have beautiful and sexy Ph.D. wife.
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*Probably why a baby asprin each day is often now recommended. _ I do not take - I avoid all medicines. I think my body is smarter than medical science still. I try to do what I suppose my evolutionaly ancestors did - if food scrap falls on the floor, I eat it. I bet my immune system is strong. Bring on your "bird flu." I am ready. I had and anti-biotic once in Brazil, about a decade ago (Some germs have evolved to be good at their job too. Probably one not present in the USA got me.) but that was the first in more than 50 years. I took it because my body was not winning the battle and five days was enough of mild fever.
**I have no money worries now but habits that were necessary in college are still deeply ingrained in me. My kids / grandchildren say I am "cheap," but I prefer "frugal," and see no reason to change - that would be un-natural for me and a stress producing conscious effort. I get irrational, but significant pleasure, when I buy something I NEED on sale.

tablariddim
08-22-08, 05:23 PM
I had my first cholesterol test in 1958

Hi Billy T, do you now or did you ever smoke tobacco and if so, did you notice a difference in you C levels after quitting?

cosmictraveler
08-22-08, 06:24 PM
How artery blockages can be prevented?

DIE YOUNG!:D

Carcano
08-22-08, 08:24 PM
The CAUSAL importance of cholesterol has steadily decreased with the passage of the years. It is now considered to be more a secondary to infections* in that the plack, rich in it, is sort of the body's natural attempt to provide a protective cover to an area of the vessel wall with chronic mild infection.
Infection by what...nanobacteria???

Billy T
08-23-08, 06:58 AM
Hi Billy T, do you now or did you ever smoke tobacco and if so, did you notice a difference in you C levels after quitting?I never bought a pack of cigarettes in my life, but in college, used a few without inhaling to see if I could make smoke rings. (I could make poor quality ones, but only by tapping cheeks with hands.)

I did do an interesting "C experiment" once. McDonnals happened to have a "two for the price of one" special on egg McMuffins, I ate six, paid for three on each of the two mornings just before day of blood test. (Normally back then I ate about a dozen every month but have had only about a dozen in the last 40 years now. I had very significantly higher C level on that test than any other.

I also did a salt sensitivity test years ago. Sat in chair, reading book and measured blood pressure at every chapter end. After first two, which were the same, I ate a tablespoon of salt and washed it down with glass of water and continued to read book and measure at chapter ends. I do not remember the details but if there was any elivation of blood pressure, it was quite small. Clearly I am not amoung the ~5% of the population that is "salt sensitive." My resting blood pressure is usually110/70 but some times 120/80 almost alway with difference of 40. In Brazil the drop the finaL 0. I.e. here it is 12/8 or 11/7.

Public health authorities, often tell things that apply to only part of the population that are not universally true. (I approve of this.) I do not use a lot of salt*, but do not limit myself either. I only use butter on fresh corn. (corn in Brazil is popular with Brazilians, even sold by street venders from little carts with bottled gas keeping it steaming hot, but IMHO it is only fit for horses. - very tough, hard etc.

Another example of miss-leading, but every useful, public health edicts is to keep your insulin in the ice box. Think about it - temperature of 98.6F (or 37C ) will not destroy it. If you leave it on the kitchen table after breakfast and at noon the sun is shinning on the bottle, that can denature it. Simple way to avoid this, is have people keep it in the ice box.

At APL/JHU I was minor part of the team that made the inplanted insulin pump that Medtronics now sells.
Its storage chamber is at less than atmospheric pressure (and maintain that way during the refill process) - It must "suck" the insulin in. Doctors do not pump it in thru the rubber-like diaphram the refill needle passes thru. The insulin used is very concentrated an would kill if just injected into the body. It stays at 37C for more than a month - approximately the time between refills. The pump is a very sophisticated design - based on our knowlege gained by making many small, highly-reliable, light-weight, harsh-enviroment-tolerant, devices for space craft. - It is amazing how alike the requirements for putting something in orbit is like the requirements for putting device inside the human body. The pump also has telimetry - tells it health to the external monitor. If the there should ever be a leak, it will tell us (among many other things it tells) and the leak would be body fluids into the pump, not insulin out into the body.

Unfortunately it is an open loop control system. The patient must estimate the need for insulin after eating and still stick finger at least daily, but the insuling is given with a time profile more natural than with an injection. - By now there should be data - I hope and expect that this has resulted in less side effects, such as blindness, but Medtronics took over the program years ago. We made only a dozen or so prototypes for implant at a couple of local hospitas as I recal. - They surely either already know or have on-going studies.

If I needed one - it would be the one I helped design. (I designed an implantable blood sugar level sensor for even better closed loop control (did not need commands from the patient.) I am sure had a good chance of working as I had it measure in the clear, constantly changing, CSF, not the blood. It used LED and polarizers to measure the optical rotation. As far as I know, it is still true that no one has made one, working in the blood, that will work for more than a couple of weeks. The most common approach is to make a sugar fuel cell and monitor the voltage/current from it, but they all fail, will not keep any calibration.

Mine was never built, but I did careful sensitivity, S/N, etc. modeling studies of it. It was not perfect, but surely better than the patient. It required that three vertibra be fused into one rigid structure. While this is quite a common proceedure (for sever back problems), even I did not like that idea on a healthy spine. Perhaps some day it will be dug up out of the APL/JHU files and find limited use.
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*I never add additional suggar to any thing, but do eat many things that contain it, when an artifically sweetened version is not available. Humans did not evolve with it. the pancress is a fine tuned sensitive organ. Hitting your insulin system with candy bar of sugar is like playing a piano with a hammer. (Probally can be done without significant harm in many cases, but I suspect there is always some damage.) Less than 500 years ago, refined sugar was more costly than gold. IMHO, it is a slow posion.

Billy T
08-23-08, 07:37 AM
Infection by what...nanobacteria???I do not know anything about them. I have the impression, but do not remember why, that they enter from the blood side of the wall, not the body side. Obviously, they are sort of dormant - not rapidly spreading. I am not even sure they are a form of bacteria. Could be a prion or virus?

Carcano
08-23-08, 12:00 PM
My resting blood pressure is usually 110/70 but some times 120/80For a older guy thats an amazing reading Billy...your arteries must have very little blockage.

I keep hearing good things about Chelation Therapy for blockages, although there doesnt seem to be a solid scientific explanation of its efectiveness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxJt-y8RUqM

Carcano
08-23-08, 01:09 PM
Hitting your insulin system with candy bar of sugar is like playing a piano with a hammer. (Probally can be done without significant harm in many cases, but I suspect there is always some damage.)
All the more reason to use sugar as fuel instead of food crops.

Corn is one of natures most perfect foods.

jargon
08-25-08, 01:33 AM
i hear that eating red meat can cause some serious artery blockage - especially in males because it literally rots in your stomach until it comes out your rear end

plakhapate
08-25-08, 03:09 AM
Alpha Lipoic Acid?

What is alpha lipoic acid?

Billy T
08-25-08, 02:37 PM
Corn is one of natures most perfect foods.Perhaps, but if lima beans are also part of the dish then all the amino acids needed for all proteins are present. Corn lacks two* (lysine and ?) as I remember.
That mix is very old. The Incas used it. I think it is called sucatash (or something like that).

I am very impressed with the unconscious wisdom that human kind has put in to practice (not sleeping with first cousin etc.)
Humans make many correlations unconsciously, but only the more accurate ones universally survive in many cultures. I am inclined to think tha "modern" medical science may have lost as much as it knows with the destruction of "primative medical practice." Fortunately, it is now begining to realize this and seriously testing some native preparations.

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* I think some truely perfect corn does now exist, thanks to "GM foods."

tablariddim
08-25-08, 04:04 PM
I am very impressed with the unconscious wisdom that human kind has put in to practice (not sleeping with first cousin etc.)
Humans make many correlations unconsciously, but only the more accurate ones universally survive in many cultures.
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* I think some truely perfect corn does now exist, thanks to "GM foods."

Thing is human kind had hundreds of thousands of years to develop the correct correlations regarding nutrition, healing, health etc when life was 'simpler', but putting it more correctly, probably before the establishment of large cities and mass migrations. As humans lost their roots, traditions and natural knowledge they entered a period of ignorance until science and mass education came along with all their vested interests teaching us whole new ways of thinking / living / believing etc, which themselves are concepts so new (even when sometimes they're old hat and just simply 'forgotten') that they are in a constant state of flux see-sawing through past present and what might be future, so it's not surprising that we are slowly re-discovering the wisdoms inherent in ancient knowledge.

naturalhealth
08-28-08, 02:18 PM
EDTA Chelation does target calcification of the arteries as well as heavy metals...so it removes both. There are only a few different products out there that do this, and it is a bit controversial as to whether or not it works, but I've heard many swear by it. And it definitely saves you from surgery. Of course, lifestyle changes would also be necessary as well, as pointed our by others (changes it diet, exercise, etc.).

Also, it's worth it to mention that lecithin works wonders to cholesterol. It both lowers the LDL (bad cholesterol), and increases the HDL (good cholesterol). Definitely worth taking to prevent future problems. I get my supplements at seacoastvitamins.com, and they sell both the EDTA Chelation and lecithin. They also have a good article on lecithin that's worth reading if you're interested in it.

plakhapate
09-07-08, 02:36 AM
Is it possible to use Magnetic Therapy?
Has anybody used Magnetic Therapy?
Pls share your experience.
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Billy T
09-07-08, 10:11 AM
Is it possible to use Magnetic Therapy?
Has anybody used Magnetic Therapy?...Yes it is possible, and was once widely used, but achieves no non-placebo results. It was quite common more than a century ago. - Ignorant people, including many scientists of the era, aligned their beds NS etc. (I am not sure, but seem to recall that Newton did so. - not often one can, with justification, call Newton "ignornate.")
Do not adopt the ignorant POV of more than 100 years ago. We understand too much now about ferromagnetism:

Magnetic fields only exert force of any significance on PIECES* of ferromagnetic material. This is because to be ferromagnetic there must be many thousands of mutually interacting atoms, each of which has unbalance electron spins. Normally there simply are not any such PIECES of ferromagnetic material in the human body.

In earlier eras when people were both ignorant of this "PIECES requirement" and impressed by magnets moving thing with no need for contact they did have faith in magnetic cures and reported them as happening - This is placebo effect in a very pure form as now we understand that mutual interaction between unpaired electron spins is required in PIECES of ferromagnetic materials of the magnet to exert any significant force (compared to the much greater thermal collision forces** that are constantly knocking the atoms around (even their aggregates- as in "Brownian motion.)"


There have however been cases where magnetic fields have been used to achieve real therapeutic effect:

(1) To help remove steel bullets from critical, surgically difficult, locations
(2) To help guide the tip of some cable being inserted via the veins to the desired location.
(3) As an experimental non-surgical cure for aneurisms. I.e. some very fine iron dust like particles were introduce into the blood stream "up-stream" from the aneurisms and the magnetic field caused them to accumulate inside the "aneurism bubble." Then they tended to self adhere and stay there strengthening the weak spot in the blood vessel wall until the body's natural processes wall them off. (I may not have all the details exactly correct - I do not think this procedure every got much beyond the experimental stage.)

Even (1) and (2) are rarely used.
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*The PIECE can be very small - a speck of dust in size and still contain the thousands of atoms required to mutually interact and form a "magnetic domain."

**Few realize that the reason all of the strongest modern magnets use rare earth materials is directly related to this. I.e. many of them have unpaired spins (or even orbital magnetic moments - I think) in their INNER incomplete electron shell and these orbital are protected during collisions by the more distant outer electronic shells, which do deform etc. during the collisions. All typical (iron/nickel) ferromagnets have a temperature (the Currie temp, I think it is called) above which they are not ferromagnetic as the thermal collisions destroy the mutual interactions that make them ferromagnetic. I assume rare earth magnets do too, but typically closer to their melting temperature I would bet - They were not much known back when I was learning about magnetic domains, etc.

plakhapate
09-15-08, 01:29 AM
Thank you for your reply.
P.J.LAKHAPATE
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plakhapate
09-21-08, 01:25 AM
As per Ramdevbaba , a daily juice of White Gourd, Spinach, Carrot clear the artery blockages over a period of time.

Is it true?

Has anybody tried this ?
Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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kmguru
09-21-08, 11:57 AM
As per Ramdevbaba , a daily juice of White Gourd, Spinach, Carrot clear the artery blockages over a period of time.

Is it true?



Too much spinach can cause kidney stones...that is what they say...

plakhapate
09-30-08, 01:17 AM
EDTA, Malic Acid, Garlik act as chelating agent which help in clearing artery blockage.

Has anybody tried this?

Pls share your experience.

plakhapate@gmail.com

plakhapate
12-09-08, 01:42 AM
Following reference says drink 8 ounces/day of pomegranate juice for 3 years and clear all the artery blockages


tPomegranate Juice Consumption for 3 Years by Patients with Carotid Artery Stenosis Reduces Common Carotid Intima-Media Thickness, Blood Pressure and LDL Oxidation
Aviram M, Rosenblat M, Gaitini D, Nitecki S, Hoffman A, Dornfeld, Volkova N, Presser D, Attias J, Liker H, Hayek T.
Clinical Nutrition (2004), 23: 423-433.
This randomized controlled pilot study of 19 patients (ages 65-75) is the first to show that pomegranate juice may reduce the amount of plaque in the arteries of patients with heavy plaque buildup (severe carotid artery stenosis) as well as substantially benefiting several important blood parameters. Ten patients consumed 8 oz. a day of POM Wonderful pomegranate juice for 1 year. Nine patients who did not consume pomegranate juice served as controls. The intima-media thickness (IMT) of the carotid artery wall was measured and blood samples were taken at the beginning of the study and at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months. After 1 year, those patients who did not consume pomegranate juice showed a 9% increase in IMT, while those consuming juice showed a decrease in IMT of up to 30%. Furthermore, for those drinking pomegranate juice, systolic (but not diastolic) blood pressure was reduced by 21%, total antioxidant status of the blood increased by 130%, LDL oxidation decreased by 90%, antibodies to oxidized LDL decreased by 19% and serum paraoxonase 1 (PON1) increased by 83%. Major blood biochemical markers were not affected, including levels of LDL and HDL cholesterol. Benefits were maintained in five patients who continued drinking pomegranate juice for 2 additional years, with furher improvements in serum lipid peroxidation.

Is this information reliable.

Has anybody tried pomegranate juice and cleared the artery blockages?

Pls share your experience.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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kmguru
12-09-08, 08:45 AM
It produces constipation, so drink water along with....

fedr808
12-09-08, 08:45 AM
The best preventative methods are to not smoke, maintain proper HDL/LDL cholesterol levels and exercise. Avoid drinking in excess to maintain a healthy liver.



No. There is currently no such treatment available.



No. There is absolutely no evidence that it helps in any way.

Some people are born with abnormaly high cholestreal it is genetic. At 15 i had 220 cholestreal where the average was like 100. There was a six year old that inherited cholestreal at 600 and died at age 10.


Thousand of people are working on this problem and G-d hope they find an answer.

plakhapate
12-29-08, 12:25 AM
Recently I read that Bisphenol-A a chemical used for making plastic transparent is found in the Blood samples of Diabetes and Heart Disease Patients.

This may be responsible for the blockages in the arteries.

So simple solution is to avoid water from plastic bottles, avoid milk from plastic bags etc. in short avoid contamination of water/wet food with plastics wherever Bisphenol-A is used.

Since it is difficult to find the plastic which does not contain Bisphenol-A ,IT IS BETTER TO AVOID USE OF PLASTIC FOR ANY EATABLES.

It is predicted that India will become a capital of Heart Patients by 2010.

Let us start taking necessary action.

P.J.LAKHAPATE
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naturalhealth
06-16-09, 12:38 PM
I'd look into some serrapeptase. It is excellent for heart health in general, and can help with plaque buildup and atherosclerosis and the like. It works to reduce inflammation in the tissues. One product I know of called Fibrozym contains serrapeptase as well as bromelain and papain (papaya and pineapple enzymes), which are also excellent for you (found it at seacoastvitamins.com). I would give it a try and see if it helps at all.

plakhapate
01-21-11, 05:35 AM
Recently I listened a lecture given by Dr Sarang Patil.from Kolhapur
According to him the Artery Blockages can be cleared by using Self Urine Therapy.
Has any body tried and are successful?

If yes pla contact me.

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T-91-22-27702655

WillNever
01-21-11, 09:28 AM
While sounding true, that says nothing about the mechanism. Doctors, in general are taught in med school to learn correct "procedures" not to think about mechanisms - why things happen.

We actually know how aspirin works. It is a platelet inhibitor.

Specifically, aspirin deactivates an enzyme in platelets called COX for short. That enzyme normally synthesizes thromboxane A2, a prostaglandin product that causes platelet aggregation. Thus, aspirin prevents platelet aggregation. The effect lasts for the life of the platelet, which is 7-10 days.

WillNever
01-21-11, 09:35 AM
If you want to reduce the pH level perhaps? But is not the blood pH should be 7.3? If you make it acidic, then the system goes out of whack and the body will create fat cells to buffer acid....

Perhaps drink a diluted KOH or Mg(OH)2 solution in the morning?

Wow, no.

Normal blood pH is 7.35 and 7.45.